thaneson Posted June 24, 2020 Posted June 24, 2020 So, I'm doing an loverlab playthrough on Legendary Edition, heavily focusing on Devious Devices and mods that work with it. The game, nearly without fail, crashes every 10 or so minutes no matter what my location. I had an issue when loading into exterior areas that was fixed by removing a realistic water mod, but this new issue still persists. Here's my load order. I'll warn everyone here, I'm an absolute noob with everything that isn't the installation and basic error checking about load orders. Spoiler Active Mod Files: • 00 Skyrim.esm [CRC: C665FD56] • 01 Update.esm [CRC: E5B67BDA] • 02 Dawnguard.esm [CRC: BD72CCF3] • 03 HearthFires.esm [CRC: AF82CE6A] • 04 Dragonborn.esm [CRC: A9F83BFF] • 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.15] [CRC: C4AB8984] • 06 ApachiiHair.esm [CRC: 783F7167] • 07 AP Skyrim.esm [CRC: 49C82390] • 08 Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp [CRC: C1FD5A1C] • 09 Campfire.esm [CRC: 321C14B7] • 0A hdtHighHeel.esm [CRC: 95D50087] • 0B SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] [CRC: BC339CA4] • 0C Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] [CRC: FD610BFF] • 0D SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.9] [CRC: 2235332F] • 0E Devious Devices - Integration.esm [CRC: 7DF59991] • 0F ClimatesOfTamriel.esm [CRC: DF772E21] • 10 ZaZAnimationPack.esm [CRC: 8C11D683] • 11 SkyrimChainBeasts.esm [CRC: 915E0717] • 12 Vigilant.esm [CRC: 6598F001] • 13 moonpath.esm [CRC: 50A19275] • 14 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm [CRC: A1A907E6] • 15 DeviousFramework.esm [CRC: 6A13B8C9] • 16 CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] [CRC: 142F29F2] • 17 Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm [Version 4.50] [CRC: 4A0AC554] • 18 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm [CRC: 22F6680E] • 19 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 2.0.8] [CRC: 5B6DC391] • 1A vAutosaveManager.esp [CRC: F759DE80] • 1B RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp [CRC: 928F43DC] • 1C FlameAtronachArmor.esp [CRC: 4CB65954] • 1D SLAdventures.esp [CRC: E0B498AB] • 1E sexlab_WearAndTear.esp [CRC: 3CC0DD94] • 1F SexLab Cumshot.esp [Version 1.7.3] [CRC: 66334D5F] • 20 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp [CRC: 0A7A56D2] • 21 KS Hairdo's.esp [CRC: 6F37902D] • 22 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp [CRC: BCD09A65] • 23 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp [CRC: 40AEB034] • 24 RaceMenu.esp [CRC: 2765B7D0] • 25 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp [CRC: 9D7312A5] • 26 SkyUI.esp [CRC: BEA2DC76] • 27 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp [CRC: 2C685F45] • 28 ELFX - Exteriors.esp [CRC: B7EB16BF] • 29 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp [CRC: A0475D76] • 2A The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp [CRC: 21A635C6] • 2B WetandCold.esp [CRC: 762DC693] • 2C WetandCold - Ashes.esp [CRC: 3D7CC687] • 2D SOSRaceMenu.esp [CRC: 477B7BAA] • 2E Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp [CRC: DA30226A] • 2F ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp [CRC: 67CA961C] • 30 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp [CRC: 6EA57C0D] • 31 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp [CRC: 047AA94A] • 32 Fort Dawnguard Overhaul.esp [CRC: 3C8B62B2] • 33 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b] [CRC: BA4FDA63] • 34 MilkModNEW.esp [CRC: 1FC2238D] • 35 BlackthornManor.esp [CRC: B5B76C2C] • 36 Helgen Reborn.esp [Version 105.3] [CRC: 91F56C13] • 37 RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp [CRC: FE7924A8] • 38 MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp [CRC: 3CF1530A] • 39 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp [Version 4.50] [CRC: 0F6B7BCC] • 3A AKSkyrimUnderground.esp [CRC: 1E6FA681] • 3B hydra_slavegirls.esp [CRC: 7302775A] • 3C Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp [CRC: E44D08EF] • 3D FullBootForKKSA.esp [CRC: 2A065A06] • 3E Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] [CRC: 2C158B9F] • 3F ELFX - Weathers.esp [CRC: 2459E062] • 40 TheEvilMansionFE.esp [CRC: 1711EFC1] • 41 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp [CRC: 0F782AFB] • 42 SexistGuards.esp [CRC: B11F800D] • 43 ZIA_Complete Pack.esp [CRC: B7B465F7] • 44 Better Vampires.esp [CRC: 8643BB0E] • 45 Immersive Weapons.esp [CRC: 0E41D31D] • 46 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp [CRC: 918B59E5] • 47 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp [CRC: F2B6AE75] • 48 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp [CRC: E68B063A] • 49 HentaiCreatures.esp [CRC: CA59400E] • 4A sanguinesDebauchery.esp [CRC: E0837A26] • 4B SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp [CRC: AFCDC39C] • 4C More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp [Version 5.7] [CRC: 7E995D19] • 4D escutcheonredwave.esp [CRC: 7BE78978] • 4E DBM_MIL+OAP_Patch.esp [CRC: 419DB331] • 4F PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp [CRC: 613D10C8] • 50 TheScarlett.esp [CRC: 71454945] • 51 SMIM-Merged-All.esp [CRC: 26FC8290] • 52 Cloaks.esp [CRC: D8F94C02] • 53 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp [CRC: 396AE69F] • 54 SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp [CRC: F499C629] • 55 SkyrimChainBeastsIntegration.esp [CRC: C3137DC4] • 56 DawnguardArsenal.esp [Version 1.1.7] [CRC: 5D7F71A4] • 57 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp [CRC: 360FA036] • 58 DeviousTraps.esp [CRC: 2162F75F] • 59 DBM_HA+IW+IA+DG_Patch.esp [CRC: 57EED8BD] • 5A moonpath_questdata.esp [CRC: 78CAE957] • 5B buildablehouse.esp [CRC: 5D3B3CD1] • 5C PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp [CRC: 5E045C23] • 5D DawnguardArsenalFDOverhaulPatch.esp [CRC: 3078510B] • 5E RDO - UFO v1.2j.b15 Patch.esp [CRC: 8CB35E10] • 5F dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp [CRC: 1B391457] • 60 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp [CRC: 8ED3EF32] • 61 RaceMenuPlugin.esp [CRC: 8A8A009F] • 62 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp [CRC: 9FFF2A85] • 63 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp [CRC: 344E6933] • 64 XPMSE.esp [CRC: 68388671] • 65 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp [CRC: 910FBBF3] • 66 SkyfallEstateBuildable.esp [CRC: 1C179808] • 67 SimpleSlavery.esp [CRC: CD06C854] • 68 ELFX - Moonpath.esp [CRC: 1A26536E] • 69 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp [CRC: AFCAAEAB] • 6A ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp [CRC: B61E85AE] • 6B ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp [CRC: 3EB8D079] • 6C DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp [CRC: 24DBA7E3] • 6D FNIS.esp [CRC: B1685AD7] • 6E qayl.esp [CRC: B68C70D6] • 6F bac.esp [CRC: E63EB45D] • 70 SexLab_Dialogues.esp [CRC: 39606FAF] • 71 conjure_chest.esp [CRC: 00B6DA73] • 72 Frostfall.esp [CRC: 21E97089] • 73 DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp [CRC: E8F78E76] • 74 DeviousFollowers.esp [Version 2.04] [CRC: C36418E7] • 75 RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp [CRC: 827458D7] • 76 The Dungeon.esp [CRC: B46612E8] • 77 S_L_U_T_S.esp [CRC: 92EB97EE] • 78 AngrimApprentice.esp [CRC: A50B3F36] • 79 PuppetMaster.esp [CRC: 2444870C] • 7A Build City 3 001M701.esp [Version 1.214] [CRC: 6CBF6EB9] • 7B RoadInspections.esp [CRC: 04D3FBE5] • 7C DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp [CRC: 76DEDD3F] • 7D DBM_CRF_Patch.esp [CRC: 934277D6] • 7E treasure_hunt.esp [CRC: 25FB1521] • 7F Devious Cidhna.esp [CRC: EF09AC20] • 80 ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp [CRC: 8D3801AA] • 81 IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp [CRC: 9D6E5F0A] • 82 iNeed.esp [CRC: D9020262] • 83 Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp [CRC: DE311404] • 84 Naked Dungeons.esp [Version 2.0.1] [CRC: 14F77C2D] • 85 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp [CRC: 4B62684D] • 86 DBM_DGE_Crossbow_Patch.esp [CRC: 317F7B10] • 87 DBM_ArtifactsOfBoethiah_Patch.esp [CRC: 130B302F] • 88 DBM_TreasureHunt_Patch.esp [CRC: 2883F2BD] • 89 DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp [CRC: 85573D53] • 8A Devious Devices - Gags+.esp [CRC: DA490FEE] • 8B DD_restrained.esp [CRC: 5E07BF0B] • 8C SexLabDefeat.esp [CRC: 9BB98F88] • 8D mslDeviousCaptures.esp [CRC: C25029B0] • 8E Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp [CRC: C8FE9E20] • 8F dD Enchanted Chests.esp [CRC: 7513A737] • 90 DeviouslyHelpless.esp [CRC: 092566E5] • 91 SLALAnimObj.esp [CRC: F29412A3] • 92 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp [CRC: 9903B70F] • 93 MilkModNEW CF.esp [CRC: 60116F31] • 94 MilkModNEW HF.esp [CRC: 82620E8C] • 95 MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp [CRC: 331D5710] • 96 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp [CRC: 0C3711E7] • 97 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp [CRC: 1FE71E7A] • 98 SLAnimLoader.esp [CRC: CE850756] • 99 SexLab Submit.esp [CRC: 3E109DFA] • 9A Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp [CRC: 07A9E29E] • 9B DeviousDevice - More Devious Quest.esp [CRC: 95001AC8] • 9C Deviously Enslaved.esp [CRC: C9C1B1E7] • 9D KeyHolderQuest.esp [CRC: 1E2D21E6] • 9E pchs_loansharks.esp [CRC: 7F0096D4] • 9F Submit belt.esp [CRC: 9D9AEE12] • A0 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp [CRC: CFD3EDD4] • A1 zzzSXP.esp [CRC: 3EF8AAB3] • A2 SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp [CRC: D4826ECA] • A3 SlaveTats.esp [CRC: 6E2A1954] • A4 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp [CRC: 44BEB5A7] • A5 RapeTattoos.esp [CRC: 7882F40B] • A6 SkyrimChainBeastsDB.esp [CRC: 311851F9] • A7 MoreNastyCritters.esp [CRC: A4251A20] • A8 StandProud.esp [CRC: 261E777A] • A9 DHuntress.esp [CRC: 08D94E75] • AA KKFur.esp [CRC: 53BB909E] • AB KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp [CRC: 78B44BC8] • AC KKSDrBWeightFix.esp [CRC: 41F414C5] • AD SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp [CRC: CD2E3484] • AE Schlongs of Skyrim.esp [CRC: 157B7B46] • AF Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp [CRC: D60F1DC9] • B0 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.7] [CRC: 855A5882] • B1 Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp [CRC: B5738230] • B2 ImmerSlave.esp [CRC: A20B8E77] • B3 ELFX - Hardcore.esp [CRC: 30FE197D] • B4 Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 70A6CC8A]
donttouchmethere Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 9 hours ago, thaneson said: I'm an absolute noob with everything that isn't the installation and basic error checking about load orders It also looks like you just throw everything into your LO without much thinking ? There are some issues with you LO that make it unstable. Those will give you a good chance for various CTD and glitches, Still the main reason why you crash so regularly points and your game runs out of memory. You need to create at least a skse.ini to compensate for that. Other Skyrim stability fixes (ENBoost, Crash fixes) you can find here: Spoiler
donttouchmethere Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 The most obvious errors in LO that will add to an unstable setup: (don't feel too bad (just a little, it seems there didn't went much thought into that LO), for some reason ppl do always the same things wrong ?♂️) It looks a little like you just threw everything into your LO and now you post it so ppl do your work. Lucky for you it seems I like puzzles ? More basics how to create a good core setup: Spoiler https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/10240-conglomerate-02-%E2%80%8Bbasic-setup-installation-of-slf-dd-zaz-mnc-and-their-requirements-and-patches-also-optionals-a-lot/ 10 hours ago, thaneson said: AP Skyrim.esm Very old and you have SL installed. You would be better off with some LL prostitution mods based on SL. 10 hours ago, thaneson said: 20 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp from all possible follower frameworks you grabbed the oldest one 10 hours ago, thaneson said: dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp XPMSE includes RRF already. Also you installed ALL variations of the settings for RRF: low, medium,high only one can win in LO anyways. 10 hours ago, thaneson said: ClimatesOfTamriel 10 hours ago, thaneson said: ELFX - Weathers.esp combining two weather mods can be cause glitches, in a worst case even CTD if no patches are available. usually the last one in LO would win, at least if you don't mix the patches for mods all over the LO instead keeping them below the main mod. 10 hours ago, thaneson said: SexLabNudeCreatures.esp [CRC: 918B59E5] • 47 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp [CRC: F2B6AE75] • 48 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp [CRC: E68B063A] remove! and install the newer MNC SLAL version that doesn't need those 10 hours ago, thaneson said: DeviousFollowers.esp [ UFO is not supported by DF. If you use UFO with DF, you will likely have several problems when dismissing followers. 10 hours ago, thaneson said: DD_restrained.esp remove! => OLD! will conflict with gag talk from DDi and other mods 10 hours ago, thaneson said: SexLabDefeat.esp 10 hours ago, thaneson said: SexLab Submit.esp 10 hours ago, thaneson said: Naked Dungeons.esp 3 defeat mods? Do you even know what ONE of those does? 10 hours ago, thaneson said: Devious Devices - Gags+.esp [ REMOVE! old, included in DDi, will conflict with DDi you really hate DDi do you? ? 10 hours ago, thaneson said: DeviousDevice - More Devious Quest tricky to configure right, because also older are you prepared for that?
donttouchmethere Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 10 hours ago, thaneson said: I'm doing an loverlab playthrough on Legendary Edition I don't think so ? At least not yet
thaneson Posted June 25, 2020 Author Posted June 25, 2020 7 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: I don't think so ? At least not yet Hey, thank you for your help! A little harsh, but honestly, I probably need that.? I'm gonna be going over each of the issues you mentioned and doing my best to fix each one. Only thing I don't get is the three defeat mods. Naked Dungeons isn't a defeat mod, but Defeat and Submit are fully compatible with each other.
donttouchmethere Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 6 hours ago, thaneson said: A little harsh, but honestly, I probably need that. No, you don't need that^^ I was just grumpy atm I typed that, sorry! 6 hours ago, thaneson said: Naked Dungeons isn't a defeat mod What makes you think that? Did you ever bothered to check the MCM or Mod Description? NDUN is my main and only defeat mod, so reading your comment makes my brain hurt ? 6 hours ago, thaneson said: Defeat and Submit are fully compatible with each other. That's good to hear o.O 6 hours ago, thaneson said: I'm gonna be going over each of the issues you mentioned and doing my best to fix each one. Most important is to uninstall those conflicting mods to DDi. The features of those older mods are mostly integrated in the newer DDi versions. (for example: ball gags prevent you from talking, compensate with paper roll, ink well, and quill in inventory) Update MNC and remove what isn't needed. The main problem will be that you run out of memory. If the stability fixes are too complex, create at least a SKSE.ini (google SKSE.ini for lazy users or use the one from my blog)
Kaervek86 Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 Naked Dungeons have way more functions to only being a defeat mod, but I'm using it for this purpose too, because it's working the most stable of all defeat mods I used by now. I also used defeat and submit alongside each other for a long time. Those can work together when you configure them right. Try to fix all those things donttouchmethere mentioned before and follow his guides, they are great. The best way of fixing things yourself in the future would be to deactivate some esps in the load order, start your game and test if you still get those ctd's. Then repeat this again and again until you don't get crashes. Then you can find the culprit and test more things with it, like moving the esp up or down your load order.
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