GrimReaper Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 When all you have to go on is "they've pulled all their mods from Nexus with no explanation aside from 'tired of Nexus trolls"", it's not hard to make the leap to "thin-skinned", considering that's almost always the primary cause when a Nexus author pulls everything and jumps ship. "Sorry, I was wrong and jumped to the wrong conclusions" would have been enough. But no, we always need to have the last word, don't we.
Mickster Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 What, it's against the lore to pose? Those ugly ass goblins, called elves, that Beth made are lore unfriendly.... To be fair neither are the smurfs in Oblivion. The one's in skyrim look more like the ones in Morrowind actually.
maload Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 lore-friendly, not big-boob enough , look unrealistic , overlSaturation , too bright , too dark .. bra ..bra ..
« Broken ‡ Mirror » Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Well, what an interesting thread to read. Jex, your confidence in me is really just astounding. I'll have to remember to give you all the facts next time, so you don't go speculating about my "skin". Let me clear up a few things. I moved from the nexus for a few simple reasons. No one in particular upset me. No special incident occurred which drove me away. I'd been thinking about moving myself over to a blog away from the nexus for quite some time. I often make mods which I can't or won't upload on the nexus, for one reason or another, and I was getting tired of having to split myself in so many areas. On top of that, I had been putting up with various kinds of insults and more people than I can count who don't know how to read a readme. I figured a blog was the best way to solve all my problems. No mods there will give me warnings for defending myself. I can make every single mod I make available in a single place without worrying about if it breaks any rules, or if it's going to upset anyone. Most importantly, the blog is open and anyone is welcome, but only people who WANT to be there will go there. It doesn't get in the way of the lore-mongers. It might also interest you all to note that on the about page is a big message saying that my mods can be used in part, or in whole, as well as reuploaded by anyone, anywhere. That includes the nexus. If people want to upload my stuff to the nexus, they are free to do so. Lastly, apologies if anyone couldn't find me very easily, but I have made sure to link my blog in my nexus signature and in various circles in the modding community in the hopes of letting people know where to find me. I just didn't really think it appropriate to go and announce my move on the nexus forums. No one likes an attention whore. Just wanted to thank you for the two locations. The school pool and the nurses office.
JinZen Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 To many posts to read but I saw the post why it got removed a bit ago and I do agree with some others here While I agree that Lorefriendly is the best way of playing games there are still things out there not suiting the lore but are worth using... I do not use a mod that would give me a gun instead of a bow... I would use a mod allowing me to make poses in any way just because of possible screenshot purposes... However I'm not so sceptic to mods... An example would be your underwear ... If you would play vanilla game you wear underwear... I'm sorry to say that underwear like this is DEFENETLY not medieval... In other words the Vanilla is just bullshit in general... I doubt panties like that would have been invented and yes I tend to use them... I do also know that piercings have not been invented in that time or cat ears and tails are not person common but they look sweet. Sceptic as I am a game is the need of being fun. People that want to extend the game be my guest... People that hate a mod don't get it, don't try it, don't comment on it... I like I might comment with positive and negative pointers.. I don't like I won't bother with it... YOU are free to install whatever you want and you should care nothing about what other people think about it or not... It's personal preference... Don't shoot someone for trying to make something that doesn't suit your "wants/needs"... Now I do have to say one thing... Some things are WAY to extended for their own good as well... and take discomfort for 50% of the crowded bunch... Still YOU are in charge however or WHAT you use WHEN you play... Don't like it, why download it ? PS: Discussion about lore friendly... Whatever we install in a game there is ALWAYS something not lore friendly... Just curious how many of you have installed a Japanese Katana sword in your game... Just curious how many think the above item is lore friendly Just consider a katana is a Japanese weapon and Skyrim/Tamriel is TOTALLY not Japanese Conclussion: a Katana is NOT lore friendly... Go back to asking a question WHY you would install a katana ??? Why would you consider this Lore Friendly... ??? Go back to my discussion part and repeat... See how many of your items/installs are truely lorefriendly... Zaz Animation Pack is NOT Lore friendly either and how many people have probably installed that ? (to give you example with the above said ZAP = Cat o' nine tails as the first citation from it is 1695 while the medieval times originally ended around the 1500's which made this item a newer item... Considering Skyrim does use Steam Golems which would be way more advanced than Medieval the game is mainly medieval oriented as the Dwemer is a lost race with far more advanced tech compared to the original. If you put Skyrim on a Timeline you'll put it in medieval times which makes that even that pack has something included which is not related to the middle ages... Lore friendly anyone ??? XD)
Guest Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 To many posts to read but I saw the post why it got removed a bit ago and I do agree with some others here While I agree that Lorefriendly is the best way of playing games there are still things out there not suiting the lore but are worth using... I do not use a mod that would give me a gun instead of a bow... I would use a mod allowing me to make poses in any way just because of possible screenshot purposes... However I'm not so sceptic to mods... An example would be your underwear ... If you would play vanilla game you wear underwear... I'm sorry to say that underwear like this is DEFENETLY not medieval... In other words the Vanilla is just bullshit in general... I doubt panties like that would have been invented and yes I tend to use them... I do also know that piercings have not been invented in that time or cat ears and tails are not person common but they look sweet. Sceptic as I am a game is the need of being fun. People that want to extend the game be my guest... People that hate a mod don't get it, don't try it, don't comment on it... I like I might comment with positive and negative pointers.. I don't like I won't bother with it... YOU are free to install whatever you want and you should care nothing about what other people think about it or not... It's personal preference... Don't shoot someone for trying to make something that doesn't suit your "wants/needs"... Now I do have to say one thing... Some things are WAY to extended for their own good as well... and take discomfort for 50% of the crowded bunch... Still YOU are in charge however or WHAT you use WHEN you play... Don't like it, why download it ? PS: Discussion about lore friendly... Whatever we install in a game there is ALWAYS something not lore friendly... Just curious how many of you have installed a Japanese Katana sword in your game... Just curious how many think the above item is lore friendly Just consider a katana is a Japanese weapon and Skyrim/Tamriel is TOTALLY not Japanese Conclussion: a Katana is NOT lore friendly... Go back to asking a question WHY you would install a katana ??? Why would you consider this Lore Friendly... ??? Go back to my discussion part and repeat... See how many of your items/installs are truely lorefriendly... Zaz Animation Pack is NOT Lore friendly either and how many people have probably installed that ? (to give you example with the above said ZAP = Cat o' nine tails as the first citation from it is 1695 while the medieval times originally ended around the 1500's which made this item a newer item... Considering Skyrim does use Steam Golems which would be way more advanced than Medieval the game is mainly medieval oriented as the Dwemer is a lost race with far more advanced tech compared to the original. If you put Skyrim on a Timeline you'll put it in medieval times which makes that even that pack has something included which is not related to the middle ages... Lore friendly anyone ??? XD) Um I don't want to sound like a smartass but there is a japanese styled katana in the vanilla game so this would be indeed lore-friendly and I guess I should add that the continent of Akavir is considered the "asia" of tamriel. There is also a difference between lore-friendly and realistic. You can't even really talk about realism in a fictional fantasy world with dragons, magic, humanoid cats and lizards and some kind of steam-punk elves that just randomly disappeared.
ZaZ Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Meh !!!!! Mods are meant to Enjoyed , Lore Friendly Or Unfriendly One Man's Food is another Man's Poison Cheers
JinZen Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Meh !!!!! Mods are meant to Enjoyed , Lore Friendly Or Unfriendly One Man's Food is another Man's Poison see his post Cheers Chris... I have to congratulate you... You are the first in a few days who actually made me laugh... This was a good one
Mordyn Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Meh !!!!! Mods are meant to Enjoyed , Lore Friendly Or Unfriendly One Man's Food is another Man's Poison Cheers Exactly: lots of people seem to forget that modding my game in a "lore-unfriendly" way will actually not harm THEIR game, thus the never ending debates often coming from people knowing better than me what is fun for me. There is saying I know: In each and every human there is a dictator hiding...
« Broken ‡ Mirror » Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Meh !!!!! Mods are meant to Enjoyed , Lore Friendly Or Unfriendly One Man's Food is another Man's Poison Cheers Yes! Yes! Yes! I love this! You sir, are one amazing man
kurisu7885 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Wow the Nexus is really starting to go to crap with their new "business model." Love Pin-Up Poser btw. Because of this; hateful and downright ungrateful nature of the nexus. and with Nexus moderator who leisurely swing injustice banhammer any way they want, he can't give his piece of mind when people berated him for immersive breaking by create an allegedly anime poser. Seriously, sometimes people can be so ungrateful and downright idiot. You know what pisses me off tremendously? People who viciously knock mods for not fitting with the lore, or whatever. I mean who made these douche-bags the fucking historians and sociologists of Tamerial?! Furthermore if you don't like a mod, here's a simple solution. Don't download it and STFU GTFO!! grrr... this is a topic I might use for the rant thread since it's always bugged me. On top of that, some just flat out don't care about lore friendly, they just want it to be fun.
kurisu7885 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Regarding underwear, I'll say what I said about Fallout 3/New Vegas, it's pretty immersion breaking to see no hint of anything under an article of clothing, then upon removing it you find something that shoudln't be there.
Winter Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 As far as lore goes, Daggerfall had 6 different endings. All of which are considered canonical despite being mutually contradictory. If they can get away with that, then I'd say it wouldn't be too tough to justify pretty much any mod....
Cozy Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 To many posts to read but I saw the post why it got removed a bit ago and I do agree with some others here Zaz Animation Pack is NOT Lore friendly either and how many people have probably installed that ? (to give you example with the above said ZAP = Cat o' nine tails as the first citation from it is 1695 while the medieval times originally ended around the 1500's which made this item a newer item... Considering Skyrim does use Steam Golems which would be way more advanced than Medieval the game is mainly medieval oriented as the Dwemer is a lost race with far more advanced tech compared to the original. If you put Skyrim on a Timeline you'll put it in medieval times which makes that even that pack has something included which is not related to the middle ages... Lore friendly anyone ??? XD) Well since Skyrim isn't Europe, and Tamerial isn't Earth, I would argue ZAZ could be considered lore friendly, since I see it as being plausible. There's no specific reference to bondage and enslavement and so forth in Elder Scrolls lore. What little there may be is vague. With that said while it may not meet the status of 100% lore friendly, it's at least plausible, which means it isn't blatantly lore-unfriendly. Same could be said of loads of mods the purists deem lore-unfriendly. I mean while I like to stick to lore friendly mods, I do so in the sense that when I use it I ask myself, "could something like this exist in Tamerial? Is it plausible?" Lightsabers, Final Fantasy characters, schoolgirls, the extreme stuff is where I draw the line personally. But in my opinion there are a load of mods out there that are perhaps very close to lore-unfriendly, but yet plausible that I can run with. Furthermore if you have a good enough imagination you can even spin far out there stuff into being plausible. Like what if the Dwemmer created lightsabers. That's a bit of a stretch for me personally, but if someone else enjoys having them in the game, and wants a lore friendly excuse for their existence in Tamerial there you go. It's all about perspective, but y'know whatever floats your boat in the end.
JinZen Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 To many posts to read but I saw the post why it got removed a bit ago and I do agree with some others here Zaz Animation Pack is NOT Lore friendly either and how many people have probably installed that ? (to give you example with the above said ZAP = Cat o' nine tails as the first citation from it is 1695 while the medieval times originally ended around the 1500's which made this item a newer item... Considering Skyrim does use Steam Golems which would be way more advanced than Medieval the game is mainly medieval oriented as the Dwemer is a lost race with far more advanced tech compared to the original. If you put Skyrim on a Timeline you'll put it in medieval times which makes that even that pack has something included which is not related to the middle ages... Lore friendly anyone ??? XD) Well since Skyrim isn't Europe, and Tamerial isn't Earth, I would argue ZAZ could be considered lore friendly, since I see it as being plausible. There's no specific reference to bondage and enslavement and so forth in Elder Scrolls lore. What little there may be is vague. With that said while it may not meet the status of 100% lore friendly, it's at least plausible, which means it isn't blatantly lore-unfriendly. Same could be said of loads of mods the purists deem lore-unfriendly. I mean while I like to stick to lore friendly mods, I do so in the sense that when I use it I ask myself, "could something like this exist in Tamerial? Is it plausible?" Lightsabers, Final Fantasy characters, schoolgirls, the extreme stuff is where I draw the line personally. But in my opinion there are a load of mods out there that are perhaps very close to lore-unfriendly, but yet plausible that I can run with. Furthermore if you have a good enough imagination you can even spin far out there stuff into being plausible. Like what if the Dwemmer created lightsabers. That's a bit of a stretch for me personally, but if someone else enjoys having them in the game, and wants a lore friendly excuse for their existence in Tamerial there you go. It's all about perspective, but y'know whatever floats your boat in the end. True story short you kinda agree with me saying in a way for EACH mod you install there is a lore unfriendly part added to it but you have to see what might or might not float with Skyrim and the Tamriel lore in general. Which is exactly what I was pointing out So basically... However if you look at a poser mod like this... Most of the poses can be naturally done (maybe some a bit harder than others) but if you can pose like that you can do it even IF this does not belong in the world... Mainly that's why I would shoot the people that shoot down the poser mod... Simple as that
kurisu7885 Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 To many posts to read but I saw the post why it got removed a bit ago and I do agree with some others here Zaz Animation Pack is NOT Lore friendly either and how many people have probably installed that ? (to give you example with the above said ZAP = Cat o' nine tails as the first citation from it is 1695 while the medieval times originally ended around the 1500's which made this item a newer item... Considering Skyrim does use Steam Golems which would be way more advanced than Medieval the game is mainly medieval oriented as the Dwemer is a lost race with far more advanced tech compared to the original. If you put Skyrim on a Timeline you'll put it in medieval times which makes that even that pack has something included which is not related to the middle ages... Lore friendly anyone ??? XD) Well since Skyrim isn't Europe, and Tamerial isn't Earth, I would argue ZAZ could be considered lore friendly, since I see it as being plausible. There's no specific reference to bondage and enslavement and so forth in Elder Scrolls lore. What little there may be is vague. With that said while it may not meet the status of 100% lore friendly, it's at least plausible, which means it isn't blatantly lore-unfriendly. Same could be said of loads of mods the purists deem lore-unfriendly. I mean while I like to stick to lore friendly mods, I do so in the sense that when I use it I ask myself, "could something like this exist in Tamerial? Is it plausible?" Lightsabers, Final Fantasy characters, schoolgirls, the extreme stuff is where I draw the line personally. But in my opinion there are a load of mods out there that are perhaps very close to lore-unfriendly, but yet plausible that I can run with. Furthermore if you have a good enough imagination you can even spin far out there stuff into being plausible. Like what if the Dwemmer created lightsabers. That's a bit of a stretch for me personally, but if someone else enjoys having them in the game, and wants a lore friendly excuse for their existence in Tamerial there you go. It's all about perspective, but y'know whatever floats your boat in the end. Big difference being you don't try to impose your brand of lore friendly on others like those jaskasses on the Nexus are doing.
JinZen Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 To many posts to read but I saw the post why it got removed a bit ago and I do agree with some others here Zaz Animation Pack is NOT Lore friendly either and how many people have probably installed that ? (to give you example with the above said ZAP = Cat o' nine tails as the first citation from it is 1695 while the medieval times originally ended around the 1500's which made this item a newer item... Considering Skyrim does use Steam Golems which would be way more advanced than Medieval the game is mainly medieval oriented as the Dwemer is a lost race with far more advanced tech compared to the original. If you put Skyrim on a Timeline you'll put it in medieval times which makes that even that pack has something included which is not related to the middle ages... Lore friendly anyone ??? XD) Well since Skyrim isn't Europe, and Tamerial isn't Earth, I would argue ZAZ could be considered lore friendly, since I see it as being plausible. There's no specific reference to bondage and enslavement and so forth in Elder Scrolls lore. What little there may be is vague. With that said while it may not meet the status of 100% lore friendly, it's at least plausible, which means it isn't blatantly lore-unfriendly. Same could be said of loads of mods the purists deem lore-unfriendly. I mean while I like to stick to lore friendly mods, I do so in the sense that when I use it I ask myself, "could something like this exist in Tamerial? Is it plausible?" Lightsabers, Final Fantasy characters, schoolgirls, the extreme stuff is where I draw the line personally. But in my opinion there are a load of mods out there that are perhaps very close to lore-unfriendly, but yet plausible that I can run with. Furthermore if you have a good enough imagination you can even spin far out there stuff into being plausible. Like what if the Dwemmer created lightsabers. That's a bit of a stretch for me personally, but if someone else enjoys having them in the game, and wants a lore friendly excuse for their existence in Tamerial there you go. It's all about perspective, but y'know whatever floats your boat in the end. Big difference being you don't try to impose your brand of lore friendly on others like those jaskasses on the Nexus are doing. As I said... Whatever you install should be your preference... You don't like than stay away from it
kurisu7885 Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 To many posts to read but I saw the post why it got removed a bit ago and I do agree with some others here Zaz Animation Pack is NOT Lore friendly either and how many people have probably installed that ? (to give you example with the above said ZAP = Cat o' nine tails as the first citation from it is 1695 while the medieval times originally ended around the 1500's which made this item a newer item... Considering Skyrim does use Steam Golems which would be way more advanced than Medieval the game is mainly medieval oriented as the Dwemer is a lost race with far more advanced tech compared to the original. If you put Skyrim on a Timeline you'll put it in medieval times which makes that even that pack has something included which is not related to the middle ages... Lore friendly anyone ??? XD) Well since Skyrim isn't Europe, and Tamerial isn't Earth, I would argue ZAZ could be considered lore friendly, since I see it as being plausible. There's no specific reference to bondage and enslavement and so forth in Elder Scrolls lore. What little there may be is vague. With that said while it may not meet the status of 100% lore friendly, it's at least plausible, which means it isn't blatantly lore-unfriendly. Same could be said of loads of mods the purists deem lore-unfriendly. I mean while I like to stick to lore friendly mods, I do so in the sense that when I use it I ask myself, "could something like this exist in Tamerial? Is it plausible?" Lightsabers, Final Fantasy characters, schoolgirls, the extreme stuff is where I draw the line personally. But in my opinion there are a load of mods out there that are perhaps very close to lore-unfriendly, but yet plausible that I can run with. Furthermore if you have a good enough imagination you can even spin far out there stuff into being plausible. Like what if the Dwemmer created lightsabers. That's a bit of a stretch for me personally, but if someone else enjoys having them in the game, and wants a lore friendly excuse for their existence in Tamerial there you go. It's all about perspective, but y'know whatever floats your boat in the end. Big difference being you don't try to impose your brand of lore friendly on others like those jaskasses on the Nexus are doing. As I said... Whatever you install should be your preference... You don't like than stay away from it Agreed, these mods don't install themselves.
JinZen Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 To many posts to read but I saw the post why it got removed a bit ago and I do agree with some others here Zaz Animation Pack is NOT Lore friendly either and how many people have probably installed that ? (to give you example with the above said ZAP = Cat o' nine tails as the first citation from it is 1695 while the medieval times originally ended around the 1500's which made this item a newer item... Considering Skyrim does use Steam Golems which would be way more advanced than Medieval the game is mainly medieval oriented as the Dwemer is a lost race with far more advanced tech compared to the original. If you put Skyrim on a Timeline you'll put it in medieval times which makes that even that pack has something included which is not related to the middle ages... Lore friendly anyone ??? XD) Well since Skyrim isn't Europe, and Tamerial isn't Earth, I would argue ZAZ could be considered lore friendly, since I see it as being plausible. There's no specific reference to bondage and enslavement and so forth in Elder Scrolls lore. What little there may be is vague. With that said while it may not meet the status of 100% lore friendly, it's at least plausible, which means it isn't blatantly lore-unfriendly. Same could be said of loads of mods the purists deem lore-unfriendly. I mean while I like to stick to lore friendly mods, I do so in the sense that when I use it I ask myself, "could something like this exist in Tamerial? Is it plausible?" Lightsabers, Final Fantasy characters, schoolgirls, the extreme stuff is where I draw the line personally. But in my opinion there are a load of mods out there that are perhaps very close to lore-unfriendly, but yet plausible that I can run with. Furthermore if you have a good enough imagination you can even spin far out there stuff into being plausible. Like what if the Dwemmer created lightsabers. That's a bit of a stretch for me personally, but if someone else enjoys having them in the game, and wants a lore friendly excuse for their existence in Tamerial there you go. It's all about perspective, but y'know whatever floats your boat in the end. Big difference being you don't try to impose your brand of lore friendly on others like those jaskasses on the Nexus are doing. As I said... Whatever you install should be your preference... You don't like than stay away from it Agreed, these mods don't install themselves. They do but not on that place
« Broken ‡ Mirror » Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 j/s but PP has been re-uped on nexus: http://www.skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32666 by a guy called orkreload.
xxomegafactorxx Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 j/s but PP has been re-uped on nexus: http://www.skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32666 by a guy called orkreload. I think he has permission from Haloform QUOTE You have my full permission to reuse any part of my original material in your own mods. You also have my full permission to redistribute and reupload my mods. Just make sure you give me credit.
« Broken ‡ Mirror » Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 j/s but PP has been re-uped on nexus: http://www.skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32666 by a guy called orkreload. I think he has permission from Haloform QUOTE You have my full permission to reuse any part of my original material in your own mods. You also have my full permission to redistribute and reupload my mods. Just make sure you give me credit. Yea. I know. I read the comments, I just wanted to tell you guys
Cozy Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 True story short you kinda agree with me saying in a way for EACH mod you install there is a lore unfriendly part added to it but you have to see what might or might not float with Skyrim and the Tamriel lore in general. Which is exactly what I was pointing out So basically... However if you look at a poser mod like this... Most of the poses can be naturally done (maybe some a bit harder than others) but if you can pose like that you can do it even IF this does not belong in the world... Mainly that's why I would shoot the people that shoot down the poser mod... Simple as that Ah don't get me wrong, the point of my response was to help strengthen your point. I agree, the thing is Tamerial is a fantasy world, and while there is tons of lore there is plenty of wiggle room for imagination and adding so-called "lore unfriendly" things due the sheer fact they are plausible. There's nothing that says they don't exist, therefore if you come up with a nice reason as to why they do exist you can essentially squeeze them into the game. While i do admit it's harder for certain mods than others to do this, it's all up to the experience the player wants to have. Besides for some who even needs an excuse? If the lore-nazi's don't like it and complain there aren't enough lore friendly mods. Well... Quit whining and make your own mod if it's THAT important. In a nutshell we agree.
Dude500X Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 Im a loremonger, but I dont shove my loremongering dick down peoples throats like some people do. Cant believe people have picked on the pinup poser.. sigh.. good mod too
NWelf Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 j/s but PP has been re-uped on nexus: http://www.skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32666 by a guy called orkreload. I tried the link but it keeps saying mod not found?? Did he take it down again??
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