Player stuck in Vanilla start

[xyzxyz]

Hi,
I made a new char but the Helgen quest got stuck right befor the player walks to the block to get executed. The game is still working but the player doesn't move and nothing new happens.

I hope the papyrus log can help you to find the problem.

Papyrus.0.log

This is my mod list:

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     AOM.esm
  7  7     ApachiiHair.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  9  9     AsharaMerchantNPC.esm
 10  a     JerralMountainsCitadel.esm
 11  b     JerallMountainsCitadelPart1.esm
 12  c     SkyMoMod.esm
 13  d     BBLuxurySuite.esm
 14  e     CreatureFramework.esm
 15  f     hdtHighHeel.esm
 16 10     Inn Girls Resources.esm
 17 11     paradise_halls.esm
 18 12     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 19 13     SexLab.esm
 20 14     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 21 15     SexLabAroused.esm
 22 16     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 23 17     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 24 18     Gray Fox Cowl.esm
 25 19     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 26 1a     UndergroundBathhouse.esm
 27 1b     daymoyl.esm
 28 1c     AsharaImperialOutfit.esp
 29 1d     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 30 1e     caliente's beautiful bodies edition.esp
 31 1f     Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp
 32 20     Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE_LL.esp
 33 21     DD - Interactions.esp
 34 22     DD_Helpers.esp
 35 23     DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp
 36 24     Dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp
 37 25     lordship.esp
 38 26     The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp
 39 27     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
 40 28     Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 41 29     Immersive Jewelry.esp
 42 2a     MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp
 43 2b     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 44 2c     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
 45 2d     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 46 2e     DrunkenSluts.esp
 47 2f     ensiferumbattlemusicbattlesong.esp
 48 30     FNIS.esp
 49 31     GagSFX.esp
 50 32     Gatti12Jewelry.esp
 51 33     GGFriendlyWhore.esp
 52 34     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
 53 35     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
 54 36     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 55 37     LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
 56 38     Lets Tie You Up.esp
 57 39     more dragons.esp
 58 3a     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 59 3b     NewArmoury.esp
 60 3c     RaceMenu.esp
 61 3d     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 62 3e     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 63 3f     ragnarsword.esp
 64 40     SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp
 65 41     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 66 42     AmorAdvExtended.esp
 67 43     Dragon Born Castle.esp
 68 44     SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
 69 45     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 70 46     MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
           SexLab Confabulation.esp
 71 47     sutvaka2.esp
 72 48     Forgotten Dungeons.esp
 73 49     Immersive Weapons.esp
 74 4a     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 75 4b     SexyBanditCaptives.esp
 76 4c     AOM.esp
 77 4d     Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp
 78 4e     TBOS.esp
 79 4f     zMirai.esp
 80 50     Cloaks.esp
 81 51     Run For Your Lives.esp
 82 52     SolitudeTempleFrescoes.esp
 83 53     LC_immersiveLoot.esp
 84 54     FyrManor_BASE.esp
 85 55     DeviousTraps.esp
 86 56     buildablehouse.esp
 87 57     PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
 88 58     MoonstoneCastle.esp
 89 59     vikinghouse.esp
 90 5a     GR123 Knights Templar.esp
 91 5b     SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp
 92 5c     markartharena.esp
 93 5d     morehunting.esp
 94 5e     SofiaFollower.esp
 95 5f     Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
 96 60     Arcanum.esp
 97 61     BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp
 98 62     Roman armor and weapons replacer.esp
 99 63     LADX.esp
100 64     Immersive Wenches.esp
101 65     mihaildracolizards.esp
102 66     quest_pitfighter.esp
103 67     AyleidSanctuary.esp
104 68     BBLSVisitors.esp
105 69     PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
106 6a     artillery_dfa.esp
107 6b     diversified conjuration.esp
108 6c     falkreath lookout.esp
109 6d     Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp
110 6e     FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp
111 6f     mihailczart.esp
112 70     old-draugr-new-tricks.esp
113 71     OvIbrewing.esp
114 72     draugraxe.esp
115 73     mihailrottenmaidens.esp
116 74     SpousesEnhanced.esp
117 75     Silver Arrows and Bolts Mod by Meneldur.esp
118 76     mihailmmasithis.esp
119 77     Wildhunt_Manor.esp
120 78     DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
121 79     MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
122 7a     FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp
123 7b     SlaversHideout.esp
124 7c     mihailcockatrice.esp
125 7d     BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp
126 7e     moresmeltables.esp
127 7f     NorseMaille.esp
128 80     SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
129 81     SkyUI.esp
130 82     Roman armor and weapons.esp
131 83     aSexyMod.esp
132 84     paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
133 85     AsharaRomanticOutfit.esp
134 86     BBLSspouse.esp
135 87     BBLSmusic.esp
136 88     mihailvampirebeasts.esp
137 89     Crimson Blood Armor.esp
138 8a     DeviouslyHelpless.esp
139 8b     dr_bandolier.esp
140 8c     EstrusChaurus.esp
141 8d     EstrusSpider.esp
142 8e     romanweapons.esp
143 8f     TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
144 90     FNISspells.esp
145 91     Greek_Armor.esp
146 92     HentaiCreatures.esp
147 93     JolgeirrBarrow.esp
148 94     Kylie.esp
149 95     mihailoldgod.esp
150 96     mihailpoisondrake.esp
151 97     Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp
152 98     mihailhealingorb.esp
153 99     northman race.esp
154 9a     paula_follower.esp
155 9b     AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp
156 9c     Radzig - Johnskyrim.esp
157 9d     mihaildruidbackpack.esp
158 9e     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
159 9f     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
160 a0     SexLabDefeat.esp
161 a1     SexLabDirtyTalk.esp
162 a2     SexLabSexBounty.esp
163 a3     SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
164 a4     SexyBanditCaptives_ApachiiHair.esp
165 a5     SimpleOutfitManager.esp
166 a6     SkallagrimsArmory.esp
167 a7     BDIC.esp
168 a8     SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp
169 a9     SLALAnimObj.esp
170 aa     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
171 ab     SLAnimLoader.esp
172 ac     SlaveTats.esp
173 ad     SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
174 ae     SLNaughtyCourier.esp
175 af     SLPleasure.esp
176 b0     SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
177 b1     SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
178 b2     SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
179 b3     Somewhat historically accurate swords.esp
180 b4     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
181 b5     SOSRaceMenu.esp
182 b6     theeyesofbeauty.esp
183 b7     ts_erocktheme.esp
184 b8     TW3Weaponry.esp
185 b9     ub_cell_darkarea.esp
186 ba     ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp
187 bb     ub_tapestry.esp
188 bc     ub_invite_any_npc.esp
189 bd     UIExtensions.esp
190 be     AddItemMenuLE.esp
191 bf     viking warsword.esp
192 c0     hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
193 c1     Vikings Weaponry - Johnskyrim.esp
194 c2     Vikings Weaponry LL - Johnskyrim.esp
195 c3     XPMSE.esp
196 c4     zaz-craft.esp
197 c5     zzEstrus.esp
198 c6     ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
199 c7     zzMaidOutfits.esp
200 c8     Bijin Wives.esp
201 c9     dD Enchanted Chests.esp
202 ca     Apropos2.esp
203 cb     Bijin NPCs.esp
204 cc     LoversComfort.esp

[RohZima]

Well I dunno about the log but can you not just use live another life? Yeah so some script/quest is conflicting... Just save yourself the trouble and skip it...

[xyzxyz]

3 minutes ago, RohZima said:

Well I dunno about the log but can you not just use live another life? Yeah so some script/quest is conflicting... Just save yourself the trouble and skip it...

I did that for years but I wanted to play the vanilla start again. And life another live conflicts with the vanilla start too.

[Psalam]

36 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

I did that for years but I wanted to play the vanilla start again. And life another live conflicts with the vanilla start too.

Let me give you the same advice I was given years ago when I asked the same question. The vanilla Skyrim start is a very "vulnerable" (for lack of a better word) period for the game. There is an awful lot going on in the background just in an unmodded game. When you throw in mods, especially larger mods, it becomes impossible for the Skyrim engine to keep up.

 

Therefore, if you just have to play through the vanilla stop disable every mod that you can afford to be without during the Helgen sequence. All of them is the best solution but my personal experience is that if you keep the number low, and especially if you use only mods that impact armor/clothing, you should have no problem. When you get through Helgen and the game announces that "Unbound" is complete, stop and save the game. Then load all the mods you want and restart the game with your save.

 

Good luck and happy hunting.

[xyzxyz]

17 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Let me give you the same advice I was given years ago when I asked the same question. The vanilla Skyrim start is a very "vulnerable" (for lack of a better word) period for the game. There is an awful lot going on in the background just in an unmodded game. When you throw in mods, especially larger mods, it becomes impossible for the Skyrim engine to keep up.

 

Therefore, if you just have to play through the vanilla stop disable every mod that you can afford to be without during the Helgen sequence. All of them is the best solution but my personal experience is that if you keep the number low, and especially if you use only mods that impact armor/clothing, you should have no problem. When you get through Helgen and the game announces that "Unbound" is complete, stop and save the game. Then load all the mods you want and restart the game with your save.

 

Good luck and happy hunting.

Thank you. I also noticed that the mod-configuration menu had no entries at this point as well. So I better use Live another Life again. Since most mods want to start right at the start of the game and not "mid" playthrough.

[Psalam]

2 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Thank you. I also noticed that the mod-configuration menu had no entries at this point as well. So I better use Live another Life again. Since most mods want to start right at the start of the game and not "mid" playthrough.

I will point that ASLAL does have an option to use the vanilla start. If you want to choose that (and frankly this is good advice with all the starts) wait until all your mods are done loading (ASLAL tells you the new McMenus added) AND you have chosen all your options for all your mods in their particular McMenus. By doing this you give the vanilla Skyrim engine the chance to get done all of its preliminaries in a nice safe jail cell. For me personally, this typically takes the better part of an hour (mostly choosing my McMenu options).

[xyzxyz]

48 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I will point that ASLAL does have an option to use the vanilla start. If you want to choose that (and frankly this is good advice with all the starts) wait until all your mods are done loading (ASLAL tells you the new McMenus added) AND you have chosen all your options for all your mods in their particular McMenus. By doing this you give the vanilla Skyrim engine the chance to get done all of its preliminaries in a nice safe jail cell. For me personally, this typically takes the better part of an hour (mostly choosing my McMenu options).

I tried that but it had the same problem. Or maybe I need more time to get all my mods loaded properly.

[xyzxyz]

The camera is spinning a lot during the waggon ride. Is that intended? It is very fast.

[Psalam]

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

The camera is spinning a lot during the waggon ride. Is that intended? It is very fast.

No, it shouldn't be doing that although some mods will cause that effect.

[xyzxyz]

1 minute ago, Psalam said:

No, it shouldn't be doing that although some mods will cause that effect.

On a later test the camera worked normal again but the quest got stuck again. I just give up for now and spawn somewhere in skyrim and teleport myself to helgen without doing anything befor. So I have almost the vanilla start.

[RW311]

With a few of those mods there is no way that scene will work right, maybe not break completely but the animation issues and camera issues are most likely going to link back to zaz and dd being loaded, this can be made to work but that load order is probably not going to make it. I would be afraid to run the vanilla start with that seems like you just risk starting the game out with stack dump at lvl 1.