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Yeeth

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Hi, so recently my skyrim has stopped loading at all and I cant find a solution anywhere, the launcher will pop up fine but when I click play it closes and nothing happens. I have 72 mods currently installed which is pushing the capabilities of my computer a little bit but I have been able to successfully run skyrim with more mods in the past so I don't think thats the issue.

 

also idk if this is related or just a separate issue, but vortex is giving me a notice that morenastycritters is dependent on CreatureFramework.esm which I apparently don't have. I've tried uninstalling creatures through fnis and reinstalling the fnis creature pack but it didn't work. I'd really appreciate any help or advice I don't really know all that much about modding.

 

I'll post my load order and fnis text in spoilers below

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FNIS Behavior V7.4.5   4/2/2020 4:57:00 PM
Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" 
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" 
Patch: * tktk1's "TK Dodge / Ultimate Combat" 

Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ...
Reading Bathing in Skyrim V?.? ...
Reading DD V4.0.0  ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 493 alternate animations) ...
Reading DD2 V4.0.0  ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 330 alternate animations) ...
Reading DD3 V4.1.0  ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 102 alternate animations) ...
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...
Reading Defeat V5  ( 0 furniture, 2 offset, 3 paired, 1 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ...
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ...
Reading KomAnimSBT V1.0 ...
Reading sanguinesDebauchery V?.?  ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 17 alternate animations) ...
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00  ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading zzEstrus V2.50  ( 0 furniture, 1 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 12 alternate animations) ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
No GENDER directory male
 0 GENDER modifications for Animations\female
Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 32 total groups: 165 added file slots: 1291 alternate files: 954

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...

 4783 animations for 19 mods successfully included (character)
 527 animations for 2 mods and 19 creatures successfully included.

 

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
  8  8     SexLabAroused.esm
  9  9     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 11  b     hdtHighHeel.esm
 12  c     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 13  d     Vigilant.esm
 14  e     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 15  f     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 16 10     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 17 11     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 18 12     Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
 19 13     SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
 20 14     musicpack.esp
 21 15     purewaters.esp
 22 16     spells cast light.esp
 23 17     TKDodge.esp
 24 18     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 25 19     SkyUI.esp
 26 1a     XPMSE.esp
 27 1b     Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
 28 1c     KomAnimObjectsSBT.esp
 29 1d     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 30 1e     SexLabDefeat.esp
 31 1f     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 32 20     Merta Assassin Armor.esp
 33 21     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 34 22     Dark Fantasy Overhaul.esp
 35 23     sos - the wilds.esp
 36 24     AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
 37 25     SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
 38 26     sos - the dungeons.esp
 39 27     ELFX - Weathers.esp
 40 28     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 41 29     troublesofheroine.esp
 42 2a     Immersive Encounters.esp
 43 2b     SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp
 44 2c     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 45 2d     bathhouse.esp
 46 2e     R.B Serana&Valerica Replacer.esp
 47 2f     RaceMenu.esp
 48 30     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 49 31     Headtracking.esp
 50 32     NorthernGrass.esp
 51 33     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 52 34     SLAnimLoader.esp
 53 35     KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
 54 36     Marriable Serana.esp
 55 37     Marriable Serana HF.esp
 56 38     GirlHeavyArmor.esp
 57 39     FNIS.esp
 58 3a     12FemaleBrows.esp
 59 3b     zzEstrus.esp
 60 3c     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 61 3d     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
 62 3e     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
 63 3f     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
 64 40     ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
 65 41     ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
 66 42     SofiaFollower.esp
 67 43     TentaCave.esp
 68 44     SexyStartingOptions.esp
 69 45     SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
 70 46     brawlbug-plugin.esp
 71 47     Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
 72 48     Imaginator BETA.esp
 73 49     Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
 74 4a     UIExtensions.esp
 75 4b     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 76 4c     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
 77 4d     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 78 4e     ELFXEnhancer.esp

 

 

Posted

In no particular order.

1 minute ago, Yeeth said:

the launcher will pop up fine

Which launcher?

 

2 minutes ago, Yeeth said:

Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" 

Doesn't need to be ticked because

2 minutes ago, Yeeth said:

No GENDER directory male
 0 GENDER modifications for Animations\female

 

 

That's a fairly old version of FNIS and probably so is your skeleton.

6 minutes ago, Yeeth said:

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)

It should say 126 bones.

 

Creature Framework is not FNIS Creature Pack. Go to the description page for MNC and read the instructions there.

Posted
30 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

In no particular order.

Which launcher?

 

Doesn't need to be ticked because

 

 

That's a fairly old version of FNIS and probably so is your skeleton.

It should say 126 bones.

 

Creature Framework is not FNIS Creature Pack. Go to the description page for MNC and read the instructions there.

in the same non-order.

The skyrim launcher, the one that comes up when you double click on the skse shortcut, it has a pic of the dragonborn looking at bleak falls barrow.

 

I unticked the gender specific thing, updated fnis and xp32, and installed creature framework, the only thing I dont really know how to fix is the bones, do you know how I can get them up to 126?

Posted
9 hours ago, Yeeth said:

in the same non-order.

The skyrim launcher, the one that comes up when you double click on the skse shortcut, it has a pic of the dragonborn looking at bleak falls barrow.

 

I unticked the gender specific thing, updated fnis and xp32, and installed creature framework, the only thing I dont really know how to fix is the bones, do you know how I can get them up to 126?

Here you find all the links you need for creating an up-to-date basic setup.

There you also find:

XPMSE

Mods needed to install MNC SLAL v12+

 

 

Posted

Okay so a few rather strange developments have occurred:

 

for one, my skeleton decided to hop back up to 126 bones, I do not know why.

for two, I tried uninstalling random mods until skyrim would start, and I believe the issue lies with troubles of heroine. With that mod disabled I can usually start the game although it still refuses sometimes, however I also found that if I uninstall then reinstall troubles of heroine, the game will occasionally start but only the first time after I un/reinstall...

 

skyrim modding has never gotten this odd or convoluted for me so hopefully someone can make sense of this.

 

and again thank you for anyone who takes the time to respond I really appreciate it :)

Posted

First off, you should not be launching from the Skyrim Launcher. You should have SKSE installed and be launching from its launcher.

 

Your XPMSE skeleton should not be flip-flopping the bone count if it is correctly installed.

 

Troubles of Heroine. Make sure you have all the requirements for it and all the requirements for those mods too. I don't use it so I don't know anything about it.

 

Have a look at DTMT's other blog guide about setting up a stable Skyrim. To me it sounds as if there is something fundamentally wrong with your game and you are just chasing symptons.

Posted
On 4/3/2020 at 1:23 PM, Grey Cloud said:

First off, you should not be launching from the Skyrim Launcher. You should have SKSE installed and be launching from its launcher.

 

Your XPMSE skeleton should not be flip-flopping the bone count if it is correctly installed.

 

Troubles of Heroine. Make sure you have all the requirements for it and all the requirements for those mods too. I don't use it so I don't know anything about it.

 

Have a look at DTMT's other blog guide about setting up a stable Skyrim. To me it sounds as if there is something fundamentally wrong with your game and you are just chasing symptons.

that actually sounds kinda spot on, I set up a stable skyrim and got troubles of heroine to work, but the game is still kinda fucky and it crashes often, is there a way to get a totally clean install of skyrim so I can do it right from the get-go? I tried un/reinstalling but all of my data files were still the same

Posted

If you want to go to extremes then you can uninstall everything, delete everything left in your Data folder and reinstall the game from Steam and have it check the files. Whether you do that or just start from where you are now you need to install these

 

Crash fixes
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/


SKSE Plugin Preloader
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/?


ENBoost (If you are using an ENB preset then you should already have this but it can be used without a preset).
https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost


Bethini (This will set your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini files)
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787


Load Game CTD Fix (Stops Infinite Loading Screen (ILS)
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/


The above tools will sort out your memory management and stop 99% of CTDs.

 

Further details and instructions are on DTMT's blogs.

 

Don't install any more mods until you have a stable game.

Make sure the mods you do have are up to date and you have all the requirements and any patches they need.

 

Which mod manager do you use? How well do you know it?

 

Make sure your SKSE.ini looks like this

 

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

 

[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048

 

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

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