korashar Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 My game randomly crashes after a while without no noticeable reason or event in game. I do use Vortex and LOOT. Here's how it happens. This is a completely new install and new save. The game first crashed while walking. Later, I tried to load an Autosave and it crashed while loading. Then I proceeded to test a couple of things - I loaded the save, didn't move or did anything, then closed the game (Alt+F4) and started it again. I managed to do this process 10 times. No CTD. - I loaded the save, moved and fought some NPCs in Riverwood, almost always starting Sexlab Defeat. After approximately 5 minutes of gameplay I then closed the game (Alt+F4). I could never repeat this process more than 3 times. Generally the 3rd or 4th time I loaded the game, it crashed during Loading. - Tried all the above deactivating ENB (Shift+12 in game menu) - Physically cleaned the dust of my rig because it was indeed a bit too hot. Temperatures are totally normal as expected (also fixed a stuck FAN) - Installed Crash Fixes v12 and tweaked the inis as the modder suggests - Installed Load Game CTD Fix - Installed the required SKSE Pre-Loader - Cleaned all the DLCs with QuickClean and repeated the process, still random CTD - Cleaned other dirty mods with QuickClean... Random CTD. - Did the 2 above following LOOT instructions. I then started playing again. It took 30 minutes (I took note) to another CTD. I was literally just walking near Whiterun and it crashed near the Meadery. No action, no visible event, nothing noticeable. I was approaching the door (with a NPC nearby). I simply can't make any logic of what's causing those CTDs - Crash Fixes Log registered only the Loading CTD with the FootIK error, but that was before I installed the Load Game CTD Fix. The next CTD was while walking and CrashFixesPluginLog registered nothing. - SKSE Minidump file when read by Windows DebugDiag tells me that DebugDiag was not able to locate debug symbols for TESV.exe, so the information below may be incomplete I don't know what should I do next fo find the cause of those CTDs. As I have somewaht 100+ mods installed and the CTDs are happening after some "random" gametime, it's really hard to disable some mods and test it. But if that's what it takes, so be it. If someone could point me to a mistake in the load order or to a mod that's probably causing it. If I can at least narrow down the possible culprits... Load Order: Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SexLab.esm 7 7 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 8 8 SexLabAroused.esm 9 9 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 10 a Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 11 b ApachiiHairFemales.esm 12 c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 13 d paradise_halls.esm 14 e ZaZAnimationPack.esm 15 f hdtHighHeel.esm 16 10 ApachiiHair.esm 17 11 HighResTexturePack01.esp 18 12 HighResTexturePack02.esp 19 13 HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 20 14 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 21 15 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 22 16 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 23 17 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 24 18 paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 25 19 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp 26 1a Phenderix Magic World.esp 27 1b pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp 28 1c Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 29 1d KS Hairdo's.esp 30 1e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Ultimate NPC Overhaul II.esp 31 1f NPC_Overhaul_V_2_.esp 32 20 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 33 21 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 34 22 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp 35 23 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 36 24 Immersive Weapons.esp 37 25 Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp 38 26 DeadlyMutilation.esp 39 27 SBF All In One + DLC.esp 40 28 Alerathla Companion.esp 41 29 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp 42 2a SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 43 2b Schlongs of Skyrim.esp My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp 44 2c Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp 45 2d Pahe_Immersive_Creature fixes patch.esp 46 2e SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 47 2f pahe-tdf-patch.esp 48 30 SexLabDefeat.esp 49 31 TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp 50 32 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 51 33 SexLabTools.esp 52 34 SLALAnimObj.esp 53 35 SLAnimLoader.esp 54 36 PermaZONESLegendaryBalanced.esp 55 37 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 56 38 Fenne.esp 57 39 SGEyebrows.esp 58 3a FreckleMania2.esp 59 3b Ebony Valkyrie Armor.esp 60 3c TGLNordArmor.esp 61 3d WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 62 3e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 63 3f PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp 64 40 Unique Uniques.esp 65 41 WeaponsOf3E.esp 66 42 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 67 43 SofiaFollower.esp 68 44 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp 69 45 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 70 46 SOS - Shop.esp 71 47 Empress.esp 72 48 SlayerShields.esp 73 49 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 74 4a Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 75 4b SkyUI.esp 76 4c Dual Sheath Redux.esp 77 4d PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 78 4e UltimateCombat.esp 79 4f TERAArmors_CBBE.esp 80 50 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 81 51 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 82 52 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp 83 53 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 84 54 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 85 55 Warhammer Sorceress Robes.esp 86 56 UIExtensions.esp 87 57 AddItemMenuLE.esp 88 58 RevampedExteriorFog.esp 89 59 TrueStorms.esp 90 5a PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 91 5b PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 92 5c PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 93 5d paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 94 5e PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp 95 5f Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp 96 60 Crimson Blood Armor.esp 97 61 DX Druid Armor.esp 98 62 DX Witch Hunter Armor.esp 99 63 Celes Rogue Armor UNP LE.esp 100 64 XF Shadow Void SpiderTech Outfits.esp 101 65 Better Females - Eyebrows.esp 102 66 12FemaleBrows.esp 103 67 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 104 68 FNIS.esp 105 69 SOSRaceMenu.esp 106 6a XPMSE.esp 107 6b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 108 6c RaceMenu.esp 109 6d The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 110 6e Brows.esp 111 6f Maevan2EyeBrows.esp 112 70 Dragon Lilly.esp 113 71 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 114 72 Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp 115 73 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 116 74 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp 117 75 Vivid Snow.esp RIG: Nvidia GTX 680 2GB 16GB RAM DDR3 Intel Core i5 3470 ASUS M4A78 I'm running Skyrim on High settings in Windows 10 X64. Full HD. Keyboard and mouse. Thanks in advance. EDIT: Was ALSO crashing with CBBE morph sliders after Crash Fixes Mod, fixed it setting AlignHeapAllocate=1 in CrashFixPlugin.ini. The Game still has random CTDs. As son as I left the Prison (Alternate Start) it crashed. EDIT2: Installed ENBoost 6.0 fix. Changed ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false. It's Been 3h of gameplay without CTD so far. ENB Graphics effects were turned off and there's some physics and sound bugs (which I found it's probably related to Skyrim not dealing with Higher FPS and VSync related. I'll try to fix later). I did not find the ideal solution yet. I want to play with ENB effects. Meanwhile I'll try to change things tomorrow. I'm almost sure it's a memory related problem.
worik Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 7 hours ago, korashar said: 90 5a PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 91 5b PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 92 5c PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp ? I can't see PerkusMaximus.esp in your load order. You are aware that you are supposed to run the PM Patcher (and create a PM.esp) before you play the game? Or you switch those esps ( and some more) OFF and play without PM
Grey Cloud Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 10 hours ago, korashar said: Installed ENBoost 6.0 fix. That is not needed. Doublecheck that you have your ENB set up corrrectly, specifically that your enblocal.ini is configured correctly for your machine. Doublecheck that you have Crash Fixes set up correctly. Install Bethini (This will set your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini files)https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787 The above plus the SKSE Plugin Preloader and Load Game CTD Fix will get you a stable game if set up and configured correctly. If you are using Vortex and LOOT make sure you turn off Vortex's autosort or it will take precedence over your LOOT. Don't clean esps willy-nilly.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 11 hours ago, korashar said: new install did you verify integrity of game files in steam after doing new install? if not, and you do that, think you might have to reclean masters file dlc's.
korashar Posted April 1, 2020 Author Posted April 1, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 4:08 AM, worik said: ? I can't see PerkusMaximus.esp in your load order. You are aware that you are supposed to run the PM Patcher (and create a PM.esp) before you play the game? Or you switch those esps ( and some more) OFF and play without PM That was simply dumb of my part. PerMa was one of my last installs and I just skiped this part. Done. Fixed. Starting a new save now. Thanks. On 4/1/2020 at 7:45 AM, Grey Cloud said: That is not needed. Doublecheck that you have your ENB set up corrrectly, specifically that your enblocal.ini is configured correctly for your machine. Doublecheck that you have Crash Fixes set up correctly. Install Bethini (This will set your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini files)https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787 The above plus the SKSE Plugin Preloader and Load Game CTD Fix will get you a stable game if set up and configured correctly. If you are using Vortex and LOOT make sure you turn off Vortex's autosort or it will take precedence over your LOOT. Don't clean esps willy-nilly. Alright. Re-checked the Crash Fixes page and setup files accordingly. Did the same with enblocal.ini. I'm following the wiki.step-project guide. I'll test the changes that I made in ENB and others. Then I'll proceed to install Bethini if I have CTDs or not. I'll report back later. Thanks. Also, If theres other guides for that (both Crash Fixes or enblocal guide) I'm all ears. On 4/1/2020 at 8:17 AM, Heroine of the Night said: did you verify integrity of game files in steam after doing new install? if not, and you do that, think you might have to reclean masters file dlc's. I sincerely did not. I played Skyrim Vanilla for about 1 and half hour as I usually do when installing mods due to previous games being screwed up. EDIT: 2 hours of gameplay. no CTD. Seems that tweaking the enblocal.ini using the ENBoost 6.0 as a base did the trick. It was indeed a memory related problem (99,9% sure). I still haven't had the time to visit parts where I know I faced CTDs ingame. PerMa Patch was applied. Did not install Bethini yet. EDIT 2: About another 2 hours of gameplay. The game CTD when manually loading a save after a death. Nothing else. Even though I have Load Save CTD Fixes, I think it is just an isolated case of load CTD
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