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Uh so apparently all of a sudden this started happening. Dragonsreach as well as Hall of the Dead wont show their names. Instead they have those square boxes indicating missing or unable to be read letters.

While i do have a font mod installed, running the game withought it didnt fix it.

I also tried deleting the interface folder from the game's data folder but that didnt fix it either after verifying of course.

 

Any ideas would really help me out here.

Here is the load order in case its needed.

I am running the Steam version of the game ofc so nothing is pirated.

(mentioning in case of people asking if im running some sort of weird game version).

Also the ini file does not contain any part..

Im honestly really confused as to why this started happening all of a sudden...

 

UPDATE: After investigating for a good while, the issue seems to be present only when Smashed Patch is enabled.

I will check it on xEdit and see what could potentially be wrong with it

 

 

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The font mod im using is the "Magic Cards" font mod. These squares only show on these 2 places as far as i can tell and they also appear in the Save file names if im in these places

Posted

Sounds like one of the mods you are using is not fully translated and is changing that world space. The squares are caused when the letter code is calling for a character (letter/word/number type not the "let's go adventuring" type.?) that is not in Skyrim's character database. 

 

Might want to try adding Japanese characters to your Skyrim.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

Sounds like one of the mods you are using is not fully translated and is changing that world space. The squares are caused when the letter code is calling for a character (letter/word/number type not the "let's go adventuring" type.?) that is not in Skyrim's character database. 

 

Might want to try adding Japanese characters to your Skyrim.

how come it changed the Dragonsreach name tho? That doesnt make much sense. So weird...

Posted
Just now, Grey Cloud said:

How many problems have you posted in the last few months and what odes that tell you about your game?

im modding a lot. Is that an issue? Its like a hobby of mine

Posted
On 2/19/2020 at 9:27 PM, killer8217 said:

im modding a lot

And do you think you are the only person on this site who is 'modding a lot'?

That load order is a complete clusterfuck. You are experiencing one problem after another and each problem different from the previous one. That is a sure-fire sign that you are doing something fundamentally wrong.

 

As Corsayr has said, this particular problem would appear to be a mod which is using the wrong script (alpha-numeric characters). Look to mods which affect Whiterun. It may well be that the problem is baked into your save so removing the mod may not actually remove the problem.

Posted
14 minutes ago, killer8217 said:

how come it changed the Dragonsreach name tho? That doesnt make much sense. So weird...

If a mod that wasn't fully translated changed something in Dragonsreach and that mod was the final mod to touch that cell, then that cell would be in the language of that mod. Which could very easily have characters that vanilla English Skyrim doesn't know about. 

 

I mentioned Japanese before because i noticed several Japanese themed mods in your list... But Korea is also a common birthplace for many popular mods. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

If a mod that wasn't fully translated changed something in Dragonsreach and that mod was the final mod to touch that cell, then that cell would be in the language of that mod. Which could very easily have characters that vanilla English Skyrim doesn't know about. 

 

I mentioned Japanese before because i noticed several Japanese themed mods in your list... But Korea is also a common birthplace for many popular mods. 

I will look into it! thanks!

Posted
3 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

And do you think you are the only person on this site who is 'modding a lot'?

That load order is a complete clusterfuck. You are experiencing one problem after another and each problem different from the previous one. That is a sure-fire sign that you are doing something fundamentally wrong.

 

As Corsayr has said, this particular problem would appear to be a mod which is using the wrong script (alpha-numeric characters). Look to mods which affect Whiterun. It may well be that the problem is baked into your save so removing the mod may no actually remove the problem.

My usual issues would always come from faulty patches which i never really comprehended well before.

This is pretty much not important at all yet it kind of annoys me. Im looking into it

  • 10 months later...
Posted

might be a bit late, but I needed this fixed also... smashed patch was the culprit... check the Cell section of the patch, block 5 sub-block 5, editor ID WhiterunDragonsreach (000165A3), "Name" became invalid on patch generation... all overwritten mods had valid name, appears to just have been a bad copy/paste into patch... changed and saved it, reloaded game, displays perfectly without starting over

my smashed patch didn't touch Hall of the Dead, but I'd imagine it might also be applicable

differences in patch generation may apply, I'm referencing Special Edition here, so this may also be completely invalid

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