The Ancient Profession 2023-11-14

[Guest]

Strange things happen. It seems that the frame drop so far was only in Whiterun. In Solitute its actually fine.

Can not explain why, but i seem to have no issue in Solitute.

Thanks

[Guest]

7 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

That's odd for sure. The code that scans for customers and prostitutes to get together doesn't run constantly, and that's about the only thing from my mod I'd think it could be, and it isn't triggered by animations. Does the frame rate drop only happen in the brothels, or is it any interior location?

Inside, but like i mentioned this does not happen in Solitute. So maybe its just (for me) a thing in Whiterun.

It seems that it is only happening to me. So i assume that it is my installation, or something i installed, has that impact on that location.

[ruddycray]

43 minutes ago, wutpickel said:

Inside, but like i mentioned this does not happen in Solitute. So maybe its just (for me) a thing in Whiterun.

It seems that it is only happening to me. So i assume that it is my installation, or something i installed, has that impact on that location.

 

The Whiterun brothel is based on the Bannered Mare interior, so you might also want to check if you have weird stuff happening in there. Other than that, I don't know what to suggest, especially if it's not happening in other interiors for this mod.

[ruddycray]

Version 0.6 is now available. There are a lot of changes in this release.

 

For those who are using Immersive Wenches, the major compatibility bug should now be fixed, but I downloaded that mod to test it out and found the following issues will still be there:

1. There are wenches who are "innkeepers" but not room renters, so the dialogue to start an inn session will be there for them, but when you try to do it, you'll get an error message in the notification area saying the session failed to start.
2. You can use the wenches to start an inn session in The Bee and Barb when you're not supposed to be able to during "Restraint of Trade".

I will probably fix both of these issue in a future release. They aren't mod-breaking. The mod-breaking bug should be fixed.

[Highborn]

Yeeeeeeeeeeees, thanks for the update! 

[SkyFireXxx]

Is the PC not allowed to solicit clients on the road or in the town? Even after obtaining a license in a hold, there is no dialogue to solicit clients Outside of Inn and Brothel. It would be useful to have an option to get the client in the town, who can be asked to follow to the room. For example when I "work" in Bee and Barb, I can only engage clients who are inside B&B. If I go to Helega's bunkhouse or in the town, the option "May I show you a good time" disappears. It makes it impossible to have those people as clients who do not visit B&B (Or other inns/brothels).

[ruddycray]

40 minutes ago, SkyFireXxx said:

Is the PC not allowed to solicit clients on the road or in the town? Even after obtaining a license in a hold, there is no dialogue to solicit clients Outside of Inn and Brothel. It would be useful to have an option to get the client in the town, who can be asked to follow to the room. For example when I "work" in Bee and Barb, I can only engage clients who are inside B&B. If I go to Helega's bunkhouse or in the town, the option "May I show you a good time" disappears. It makes it impossible to have those people as clients who do not visit B&B (Or other inns/brothels).

 

It should be possible to solicit anyone in town if you have started an inn session. At the moment, soliciting them first and then finding a place is not an option, but I may do something later. Solicitation on the road is not currently possible.

 

If you are currently working for an innkeeper and are still not able to solicit NPCs around town, then that's a bug.

 

Edit: I just checked and it works for me. You do have to start working for the innkeeper first, though.

[SkyFireXxx]

3 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

It should be possible to solicit anyone in town if you have started an inn session. At the moment, soliciting them first and then finding a place is not an option, but I may do something later. Solicitation on the road is not currently possible.

 

If you are currently working for an innkeeper and are still not able to solicit NPCs around town, then that's a bug.

 

Edit: I just checked and it works for me. You do have to start working for the innkeeper first, though.

 

It was not working for me, I had an active inn session, then I went out to all over Riften, both inside cell and in town, but I didn't have option. However, after I updated to Version 0.6 from 0.5, I now have the option.  I updated to 0.6, and started a new game and it is working now. Not sure why it wasn't working before, may be something got loose in the save file, some script or a var or something?

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, SkyFireXxx said:

 

It was not working for me, I had an active inn session, then I went out to all over Riften, both inside cell and in town, but I didn't have option. However, after I updated to Version 0.6 from 0.5, I now have the option.  I updated to 0.6, and started a new game and it is working now. Not sure why it wasn't working before, may be something got loose in the save file, some script or a var or something?

 

I don't know for sure what might have happened. I didn't fix anything related to that for 0.6. If you see it happen again, let me know.

[Highborn]

I really enjoyed the update, especially the play. That was fun. Maybe you can even add more, like in the real Barenziah book mentions a sexual encounter between Barenziah and a Kahjiit.

 

Btw, I was thinking about a possible new suggestion for a quest, in which the player is hired to take the virginity of some noble's son, because the father thinks his son is a coward/milkdrinker. Something along those lines.

 

 

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, Highborn said:

 

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I really enjoyed the update, especially the play. That was fun. Maybe you can even add more, like in the real Barenziah book mentions a sexual encounter between Barenziah and a Kahjiit.

 

Btw, I was thinking about a possible new suggestion for a quest, in which the player is hired to take the virginity of some noble's son, because the father thinks his son is a coward/milkdrinker. Something along those lines.

 

 

Glad you liked it! That job was one I've been planning to do for a while, so I was happy to finally make it happen. I tried to do it in a way that should allow me to add more without too much trouble, within some limitations.

 

That's a good idea for a quest. I'll add it to the list.

[Highborn]

3 hours ago, ruddycray said:

Glad you liked it! That job was one I've been planning to do for a while, so I was happy to finally make it happen. I tried to do it in a way that should allow me to add more without too much trouble, within some limitations.

 

That's a good idea for a quest. I'll add it to the list.

 

 

I have a couple more of suggestions/ideas if you are willing to consider for future quests, feel free to change anything or just take some inspiration if there is something you like:

 

1. Semen collector

 

- Semen is used by some alchemists for some rare and powerful potions. Taking inspiration from the real world: "A sperm donor generally produces and collects sperm at a sperm bank or clinic by masturbation in a private room or cabin, known as a 'men's production room' (UK), 'donor cabin' (DK) or a masturbatorium (USA). Many of these facilities contain pornography such as videos/DVD, magazines, and/or photographs which may assist the donor in becoming aroused in order to facilitate production of the ejaculate, also known as the "semen sample" but the increasing usage of porn in the U.S. has dulled many men to its effects. In some circumstances, it may also be possible for semen from donors to be collected during sexual intercourse with the use of a collection condom which results in higher sperm counts." (Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_bank#Collection

 

- With that in mind, in order to collect a bigger amount of the ingredient, the alchemist would hire the player to collect it directly with the donor by performing either a handjob, a blowjob or intercourse, using a special bottle afterwards, to keep the sample fresh. The brothel wouldn't be recommended, since discretion is, of course, required. After all, rumors about the alchemy shop using semen as ingredient would damage its reputation and business. Therefore, the act would be performed preferably either at the donor's house or in the alchemy store. 

 

*I think the same concept could be implemented with the intent of collecting semen not for alchemy potions, but in order to help couples with fertility issues. But I'm not sure if artificial insemination theme would fit Skyrim - although crazier things happens in the game lore. Maybe magical insemination could fit, but it's up to you. lol

 

2. Sex surrogate

 

- Sex surrogates, sometimes referred to as surrogate partners, are practitioners trained in addressing issues of intimacy and sexuality. A surrogate partner works in collaboration with a sex therapist to meet the goals of their client. So, the player would be hired to work on a therapy session in which she would help a client overcome a problem (it could be dating anxiety, premature ejaculation, erectile dysfunction, etc). The sex therapist would watch the performance and communicate with the player and the client between rounds. The therapist role could be replaced by a priest of Dibella or a healer, for lore reasons.

 

More uses of surrogate partner therapy here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_surrogate

 

3. Nude contest

 

- During one of the parties, the player would be part of a jury (or the sole judge) that would choose the best cock among the brothel clients (could be a blind test). There might be even categories: the longest, the thiccest, the tastiest, the most comfortable, etc.

4. Strip Quiz

 

- During one of the parties, the player has to answer a quiz. Each wrong answer she will have to remove a piece of her clothes. If she loses everything, she has to give a freebie to one of the clients. If she wins, the client can still use her, but she will get the double of the pay for that round.

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, Highborn said:

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I have a couple more of suggestions/ideas if you are willing to consider for future quests, feel free to change anything or just take some inspiration if there is something you like:

 

1. Semen collector

 

- Semen is used by some alchemists for some rare and powerful potions. Taking inspiration from the real world: "A sperm donor generally produces and collects sperm at a sperm bank or clinic by masturbation in a private room or cabin, known as a 'men's production room' (UK), 'donor cabin' (DK) or a masturbatorium (USA). Many of these facilities contain pornography such as videos/DVD, magazines, and/or photographs which may assist the donor in becoming aroused in order to facilitate production of the ejaculate, also known as the "semen sample" but the increasing usage of porn in the U.S. has dulled many men to its effects. In some circumstances, it may also be possible for semen from donors to be collected during sexual intercourse with the use of a collection condom which results in higher sperm counts." (Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_bank#Collection

 

- With that in mind, in order to collect a bigger amount of the ingredient, the alchemist would hire the player to collect it directly with the donor by performing either a handjob, a blowjob or intercourse, using a special bottle afterwards, to keep the sample fresh. The brothel wouldn't be recommended, since discretion is, of course, required. After all, rumors about the alchemy shop using semen as ingredient would damage its reputation and business. Therefore, the act would be performed preferably either at the donor's house or in the alchemy store. 

 

*I think the same concept could be implemented with the intent of collecting semen not for alchemy potions, but in order to help couples with fertility issues. But I'm not sure if artificial insemination theme would fit Skyrim - although crazier things happens in the game lore. Maybe magical insemination could fit, but it's up to you. lol

 

2. Sex surrogate

 

- Sex surrogates, sometimes referred to as surrogate partners, are practitioners trained in addressing issues of intimacy and sexuality. A surrogate partner works in collaboration with a sex therapist to meet the goals of their client. So, the player would be hired to work on a therapy session in which she would help a client overcome a problem (it could be dating anxiety, premature ejaculation, erectile dysfunction, etc). The sex therapist would watch the performance and communicate with the player and the client between rounds. The therapist role could be replaced by a priest of Dibella or a healer, for lore reasons.

 

More uses of surrogate partner therapy here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_surrogate

 

3. Nude contest

 

- During one of the parties, the player would be part of a jury (or the sole judge) that would choose the best cock among the brothel clients (could be a blind test). There might be even categories: the longest, the thiccest, the tastiest, the most comfortable, etc.

4. Strip Quiz

 

- During one of the parties, the player has to answer a quiz. Each wrong answer she will have to remove a piece of her clothes. If she loses everything, she has to give a freebie to one of the clients. If she wins, the client can still use her, but she will get the double of the pay for that round.

I'll see if I can do anything with some of these. 1 is probably doable in some form. There's definitely a basis for your idea #2 in Restoring Faith, since that's basically what happened with one of the people you have to talk to about Sassa.

 

3 and 4 are interesting concepts, but I'd have to think about how to make those work in-game. My immediate thought is that 3 would be hard to pull off without the choices just feeling arbitrary to players due to game limitations, but I'll give it some thought. I'd like to try to do something with 4, but I also need something that would give the brothel an incentive to deal with that kind of risk.

[Highborn]

37 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

I'll see if I can do anything with some of these. 1 is probably doable in some form. There's definitely a basis for your idea #2 in Restoring Faith, since that's basically what happened with one of the people you have to talk to about Sassa.

 

3 and 4 are interesting concepts, but I'd have to think about how to make those work in-game. My immediate thought is that 3 would be hard to pull off without the choices just feeling arbitrary to players due to game limitations, but I'll give it some thought. I'd like to try to do something with 4, but I also need something that would give the brothel an incentive to deal with that kind of risk.

Troubles of Heroine has a small quest with the quiz, which is from where I got the idea. If you want to check it out how the mechanics work, you have to talk with Onmund at the College of Winterhold and help him study. The player removes her clothes as a reward for him, when he manages to learn the answers correctly. Maybe you can use this idea in your mod for some sort of event or scenario in which the player can reward/encourage someone.

 

 

 

 

[Herowynne]

I published Version 3 of KSHair for The Ancient Profession, which adds head meshes for 3 new NPCs included with The Ancient Profession ALPHA 21Mar2021 0.6

[essfour]

Just one request:

 

Please change gender checks when pairing scenes to use Sexlab gender, or at least make it an optional toggle in the MCM. Not sure how much more of a load it is script-wise, but at least players can then solicit futa characters and have a full range of animations to choose from, rather than being given lesbian options despite Sexlab genders being a female-male encounter.

 

Other than that, love what you've done, love the way it's been integrated into the Skyrim world. 

[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, essfour said:

Just one request:

 

Please change gender checks when pairing scenes to use Sexlab gender, or at least make it an optional toggle in the MCM. Not sure how much more of a load it is script-wise, but at least players can then solicit futa characters and have a full range of animations to choose from, rather than being given lesbian options despite Sexlab genders being a female-male encounter.

 

Other than that, love what you've done, love the way it's been integrated into the Skyrim world. 

 

I'll have to look into that. Most of what I've got in there is from me being annoyed that every time two women are in a scene it seems there's always a strap-on involved. As long as I can do it without breaking that part, I'm willing to make adjustments.

[kevtg26]

So one minor bug / issue that I've noticed, at least in the Whiterun Brothel, is that there doesn't seem to be any kind of "is the bed in use" check when the mod fires off an NPC sex scene. Numerous times the NPCs have jumped into a bed that my PC was currently using for their own scene. I had all other matchmaking turned off so this was the only mod that was arranging scenes as near as I can tell.

[Lisette11]

Is there a mod where a male can be a prostitute? Except for Deviously Cursed Loot. I can't find one. If men get to drool over hot girls doing each other, I want to see hot men doing each other. 

[Highborn]

17 minutes ago, Lisette11 said:

Is there a mod where a male can be a prostitute? Except for Deviously Cursed Loot. I can't find one. If men get to drool over hot girls doing each other, I want to see hot men doing each other. 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5392-radiant-prostitutiongigolo/

[Lisette11]

15 minutes ago, Highborn said:

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5392-radiant-prostitutiongigolo/

Thank you. I have that already and I love it. Should have mentioned that. But that only work in inns. 

[ruddycray]

9 hours ago, kevtg26 said:

So one minor bug / issue that I've noticed, at least in the Whiterun Brothel, is that there doesn't seem to be any kind of "is the bed in use" check when the mod fires off an NPC sex scene. Numerous times the NPCs have jumped into a bed that my PC was currently using for their own scene. I had all other matchmaking turned off so this was the only mod that was arranging scenes as near as I can tell.

 

Yeah, that will actually happen in any of the brothels. All of the prostitutes in the brothels have assigned beds, but the player doesn't. I'll correct it eventually, possibly in the next release.

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, Lisette11 said:

Is there a mod where a male can be a prostitute? Except for Deviously Cursed Loot. I can't find one. If men get to drool over hot girls doing each other, I want to see hot men doing each other. 

 

Other than what Highborn mentioned, nothing I know of, but it's also not my thing, so I haven't really looked for it. But I also wasn't finding quite what I was looking for, and I decided to learn to mod ?

[eggman1967]

Just wanted to say that this mod is outstanding, and thank you for all your work.

[arshesney]

I've noticed a couple errors in TAPQAncientProfessionScript, some ESL addresses slipped in FormIDs for, as example, the glass robe. Since I compact outfit mods I've also added a simple check to support ESLified plugins.

TAPQAncientProfessionScript.psc