Creationkit: lighting issues in narrow buildings - black surfaces and on/off flickering

[worik]

I am filling the quite narrow space on a ship with stuff and light sources.

 

Now, I see two issues when I test it in game:

 

1. Black surface, where they seem to be unimpressed by the light sources

Here, the door and on the table to the left is a map, which stays dark

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As far as I know, all light sources here are omnidirectional and no-shadow versions ?

Now, I wonder what I isunderstood or what I am doing wrong.

 

Same type of lightsources behind me, but everything works well:

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And my second issue is on/off flickering when I move through the cargo bay. Plus you can see the effect on the ceiling.

I am standing at the bow and look aft: ceiling is lit

I am standing at the other entrance and look forward: ceiling is dark

When I move along the planks, I get the on/off flickering

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I think it must have something to do with the light sources ?

[Seijin8]

42 minutes ago, worik said:

As far as I know, all light sources here are omnidirectional and no-shadow versions ?

Now, I wonder what I isunderstood or what I am doing wrong.

Can also be caused by too many non-shadow lighting sources being visible to the camera at once (I think the number is 12, or maybe 16).  You can use portal-strict lights with room bounds/multibounds to solve this.  Also can be managed with enable/disable effects based on proximal trigger volumes.

 

This effect can also be caused if the lighting source is clipping through the wall.

 

This can also be caused if the 3D model of the tables (or whatever) is clipping through another lit surface.

[Seijin8]

10 minutes ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

That could be an engine limitation when using shadow casting lights. You can't have more than 4 shadow casting lights overlap because it will show darkness like in your screenshot.

I'm not sure if that's the case for you, but you can try to use fewer lights.

 

1 hour ago, worik said:

As far as I know, all light sources here are omnidirectional and no-shadow versions

 

[Laura]

Oops.

[worik]

50 minutes ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Oops.

[worik]

1 hour ago, Seijin8 said:

Can also be caused by too many non-shadow lighting sources being visible to the camera at once (I think the number is 12, or maybe 16).  You can use portal-strict lights with room bounds/multibounds to solve this.  Also can be managed with enable/disable effects based on proximal trigger volumes.

I didn't know that they are limited, too. ?

Will try that

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

3 hours ago, Seijin8 said:

 

 

 With the flickering lights, I think it's only 6 lights sources can be seen at any particular POV in interiors, you can have 100 lights, only 6 in any current POV

 

Edit: looks like its only 4

 

 

[worik]

1 hour ago, Heroine of the Night said:

Edit: looks like its only 4

That's the shadow casting ones. But I'm using the non-shadow one (or at least, I think I do ?) . But thanks anyway