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My skyrim has developed a habit of crashing when, and only when, I go through a door. And I do not mean loading the cell, but going though any door.

If, to enter an area, I use COC instead, it works perfectly fine. But if I use a door, there's about an 80% chance of crashing.

 

Can't see any consistent things at the end of papyrus logs, so in general I have absolutely no idea what's going on.

 

Load Order as copied from LOOT:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
  9  9     SexLabAroused.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 12  c     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHair.esm
 14  e     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 15  f     RaceCompatibility.esm
 16 10     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 17 11     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 18 12     Amputator.esm
 19 13     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 20 14     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 21 15     HighResTexturePack03.esp
           Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
 22 16     FNIS.esp
 23 17     SimplyKnock.esp
 24 18     DeviouslyHelpless.esp
 25 19     Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp
 26 1a     Purity.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
 27 1b     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp
 28 1c     MilkModNEW.esp
 29 1d     SkyrimUnleveled.esp
 30 1e     MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancyB.esp
 31 1f     MilkModNEW HF.esp
           MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
 32 20     iHUD.esp
           MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp
 33 21     sr_FillHerUp.esp
 34 22     Predator Vision.esp
 35 23     No_stretching.esp
 36 24     No_stretching_Markarth.esp
           MuffleNoCloud.esp
 37 25     Dragonborn HD Ultra.esp
           GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp
 38 26     RaceMenu.esp
 39 27     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 40 28     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 41 29     UIExtensions.esp
 42 2a     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 43 2b     12FemaleBrows.esp
 44 2c     SkyUI.esp
 45 2d     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 46 2e     XPMSE.esp
           FemaleMannequinsBreton.esp
 47 2f     KaiSFemaleHHDT.esp
 48 30     FlameAtronachArmor.esp
           FullBootForKKSA.esp
 49 31     CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
 50 32     DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
 51 33     PAN_NPCs.esp
 52 34     TKDodge.esp
           Dual Sheath Redux.esp
           crystalsoulgems.esp
 53 35     prettypotions.esp
 54 36     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 55 37     SLALAnimObj.esp
 56 38     BanneredMareImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp
 57 39     SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp
 58 3a     hydra_slavegirls.esp
 59 3b     Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp
 60 3c     SkyrimSewers.esp
 61 3d     SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
 62 3e     SL Survival.esp
 63 3f     Spank That Ass.esp
 64 40     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 65 41     TacticalValtheim.esp
 66 42     Devious Lore.esp
 67 43     Tanya.esp
 68 44     Blush When Aroused.esp
 69 45     DW.esp
 70 46     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 71 47     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 72 48     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 73 49     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 74 4a     SlaveTats.esp
 75 4b     DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
 76 4c     SU-LOOT.esp
 77 4d     DeviousRegulations.esp
 78 4e     DragonbornInDistress.esp
           Hydra Devious Devices Patch.esp
 79 4f     SexistGuards.esp
 80 50     SLAdventures.esp
           SLAdv_GoldWeight.esp
 81 51     SLSO.esp
 82 52     BarefootRealism.esp
 83 53     bac.esp
 84 54     SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
 85 55     MoreRiftenTrees.esp
 86 56     BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
 87 57     Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
 88 58     Terra Umbra.esp
 89 59     ribeable-broom.esp
 90 5a     Imaginator BETA.esp
 91 5b     Sneak Tools.esp
 92 5c     Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
           Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
 93 5d     StrangeRunes.esp
 94 5e     EggFactory.esp
 95 5f     MagicalUtilities.esp
 96 60     ReflectiveWard.esp
 97 61     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
 98 62     dwbes.esp
 99 63     COR_AllRace.esp
100 64     Apropos.esp
101 65     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
102 66     SLAnimLoader.esp
103 67     FGCAegeanSentinelHalberd.esp
104 68     NewArmoury.esp
           FGCAegeanSentinelHalberd_AA_Patch.esp
105 69     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
106 6a     Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
107 6b     ImmerSlave.esp
108 6c     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
109 6d     ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
 

 

Posted
12 minutes ago, Leytra said:

My skyrim has developed a habit of crashing when, and only when, I go through a door. And I do not mean loading the cell, but going though any door.

If, to enter an area, I use COC instead, it works perfectly fine. But if I use a door, there's about an 80% chance of crashing.

 

Can't see any consistent things at the end of papyrus logs, so in general I have absolutely no idea what's going on.

 

Load Order as copied from LOOT:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
  9  9     SexLabAroused.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 12  c     ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHair.esm
 14  e     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 15  f     RaceCompatibility.esm
 16 10     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 17 11     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 18 12     Amputator.esm
 19 13     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 20 14     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 21 15     HighResTexturePack03.esp
           Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
 22 16     FNIS.esp
 23 17     SimplyKnock.esp
 24 18     DeviouslyHelpless.esp
 25 19     Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp
 26 1a     Purity.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
 27 1b     ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
           ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp
 28 1c     MilkModNEW.esp
 29 1d     SkyrimUnleveled.esp
 30 1e     MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancyB.esp
 31 1f     MilkModNEW HF.esp
           MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
 32 20     iHUD.esp
           MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp
 33 21     sr_FillHerUp.esp
 34 22     Predator Vision.esp
 35 23     No_stretching.esp
 36 24     No_stretching_Markarth.esp
           MuffleNoCloud.esp
 37 25     Dragonborn HD Ultra.esp
           GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp
 38 26     RaceMenu.esp
 39 27     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 40 28     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 41 29     UIExtensions.esp
 42 2a     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 43 2b     12FemaleBrows.esp
 44 2c     SkyUI.esp
 45 2d     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 46 2e     XPMSE.esp
           FemaleMannequinsBreton.esp
 47 2f     KaiSFemaleHHDT.esp
 48 30     FlameAtronachArmor.esp
           FullBootForKKSA.esp
 49 31     CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
 50 32     DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
 51 33     PAN_NPCs.esp
 52 34     TKDodge.esp
           Dual Sheath Redux.esp
           crystalsoulgems.esp
 53 35     prettypotions.esp
 54 36     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 55 37     SLALAnimObj.esp
 56 38     BanneredMareImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp
 57 39     SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp
 58 3a     hydra_slavegirls.esp
 59 3b     Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp
 60 3c     SkyrimSewers.esp
 61 3d     SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
 62 3e     SL Survival.esp
 63 3f     Spank That Ass.esp
 64 40     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 65 41     TacticalValtheim.esp
 66 42     Devious Lore.esp
 67 43     Tanya.esp
 68 44     Blush When Aroused.esp
 69 45     DW.esp
 70 46     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 71 47     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 72 48     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 73 49     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 74 4a     SlaveTats.esp
 75 4b     DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
 76 4c     SU-LOOT.esp
 77 4d     DeviousRegulations.esp
 78 4e     DragonbornInDistress.esp
           Hydra Devious Devices Patch.esp
 79 4f     SexistGuards.esp
 80 50     SLAdventures.esp
           SLAdv_GoldWeight.esp
 81 51     SLSO.esp
 82 52     BarefootRealism.esp
 83 53     bac.esp
 84 54     SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
 85 55     MoreRiftenTrees.esp
 86 56     BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
 87 57     Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
 88 58     Terra Umbra.esp
 89 59     ribeable-broom.esp
 90 5a     Imaginator BETA.esp
 91 5b     Sneak Tools.esp
 92 5c     Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
           Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
 93 5d     StrangeRunes.esp
 94 5e     EggFactory.esp
 95 5f     MagicalUtilities.esp
 96 60     ReflectiveWard.esp
 97 61     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
 98 62     dwbes.esp
 99 63     COR_AllRace.esp
100 64     Apropos.esp
101 65     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
102 66     SLAnimLoader.esp
103 67     FGCAegeanSentinelHalberd.esp
104 68     NewArmoury.esp
           FGCAegeanSentinelHalberd_AA_Patch.esp
105 69     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
106 6a     Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
107 6b     ImmerSlave.esp
108 6c     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
109 6d     ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
 

 

Okay, I looked at Simply Knock's support thread and it mentions some issues while using SexLab evidently mediated through StorageUtil. I know TMI, right? Anyway, the most practical suggestion I found was to move Simply Knock to the end of your load order. I can't promise a thing but that's what was said.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Okay, I looked at Simply Knock's support thread and it mentions some issues while using SexLab evidently mediated through StorageUtil. I know TMI, right? Anyway, the most practical suggestion I found was to move Simply Knock to the end of your load order. I can't promise a thing but that's what was said.

Unfortunately that didn't seem to have helped.

The worst thing? I don't even want to bloody use Simply Knock, it's just a requirement for sexlab survival, so if that's what's causing the issue, imma be very much irked.

Posted
54 minutes ago, Leytra said:

Unfortunately that didn't seem to have helped.

The worst thing? I don't even want to bloody use Simply Knock, it's just a requirement for sexlab survival, so if that's what's causing the issue, imma be very much irked.

Well, if you look at the Support Thread, there are more complicated recommendations made. Of course, as you point out, I don't KNOW that Simply Knock is your issue.

Posted

I use SLS & Simple Knock too.

 

Simple Knock comes with an old version of PapyrusUtil.

Don't let your PapyrusUtil 3.3 be overwritten by Simple Knock or SLF

 

Also check those mods if they can cause issues:

91 5b     Sneak Tools.esp                                       => lots of issues with that one, check forums for patches/solutions
 92 5c     Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
           Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp
 60 3c     SkyrimSewers.esp                                   => might conflict somewhere (or not^^)

 

=>I definitely would move SLS below those in LO

 

 

 

Causes save game bloat:

82 52     BarefootRealism.esp

 

 

check if maybe a quest of this is still running:

78 4e     DragonbornInDistress.esp

 

 

 

52 34     TKDodge.esp => move over FNIS in LO, don't let it overwrite FNIS files

 

move XPMSE further down in LO

 

At the end it's hard to tell why your game crashes on cell changes

If you need this " 109 6d     ContinueGameNoCrash.esp " your setup might be already compromised or is missing a stable basis like Crash fixes, SKSE.ini, ENBoost

 

Try and remove mods that get loaded if you change cells to find the culprit?‍♂️

 

The more I look at the LO the more I think it can be a LO issue.

Check your light mods too o.o

 

Check if it helps if you switch STA to "speak via dummy"

 

DCL can trap doors, maybe this conflicts? Try deactivate trapped doors in DCL

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