Nyren Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 Load Order: Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 254 FE 0 ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 7 7 BSAssets.esm 8 8 BSHeartland.esm 9 9 BS_DLC_patch.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 10 a Campfire.esm 11 b ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 c daymoyl.esm 13 d ApachiiHair.esm 14 e ApachiiHairFemales.esm 15 f ApachiiHairMales.esm 16 10 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 17 11 SGHairPackBase.esm 18 12 MagicDuelReborn.esm 19 13 SexLab.esm 20 14 paradise_halls.esm 21 15 CreatureFramework.esm 22 16 SexLabAroused.esm 23 17 SexLab Attraction.esm 24 18 BadDogSchlongCore.esm 25 19 AzarHair.esm 26 1a Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp 254 FE 1 Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim SE - MCM versionPatch.esp 27 1b Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp 28 1c SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 29 1d Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp 30 1e Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp 31 1f NSUTR_bugfixes.esp 32 20 NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp 33 21 NSUTR_improvements.esp 34 22 WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp 35 23 WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp 36 24 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp 254 FE 2 Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp 37 25 Shadowmarks.esp 254 FE 3 SkyUI_SE.esp 254 FE 4 SkyrimIsWindy.esp 38 26 RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp 39 27 Cutting Room Floor.esp 40 28 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 41 29 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 254 FE 5 FloraRespawnFix.esp 42 2a Cloaks.esp 43 2b 1nivWICCloaks.esp 44 2c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 45 2d EmbersHD.esp 254 FE 6 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp 46 2e aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 254 FE 7 Qw_RelightingSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp 47 2f Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 254 FE 8 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 48 30 FNIS.esp 49 31 RaceMenu.esp 50 32 UIExtensions.esp 51 33 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 52 34 SexLab_Solutions.esp 53 35 MarriageModSE.esp 54 36 paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 55 37 TKAA.esp 56 38 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 254 FE 9 Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp 254 FE a Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp 57 39 SSE High Quality Music.esp 58 3a Footprints.esp 254 FE b Smoking Torches And Candles.esp 59 3b Beards.esp 60 3c KS Hairdo's.esp Saeri_Khajiit_Hair.esp VampireLordsCanActivate.esp 61 3d Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 62 3e Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp 63 3f SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 64 40 Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp Blues Skyrim.esp 65 41 Civil War Aftermath.esp 66 42 BlackthornManor.esp 67 43 Helgen Reborn.esp 68 44 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp 69 45 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp 70 46 Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp 71 47 Wind District Breezehome - Reborn.esp 72 48 OBIS SE.esp 254 FE c PCE - Relighting Skyrim.esp 73 49 Immersive Weapons.esp 254 FE d OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp 74 4a MoreNastyCritters.esp 254 FE e Incognito.esp 75 4b Realistic-Voice.esp 254 FE f HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 254 FE 10 sandboxcylinderheight.esp 76 4c WondersofWeather.esp 254 FE 11 ShadowcloakBugFix.esp 254 FE 12 Clear Skies Fix SE.esp 77 4d ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 78 4e TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp 254 FE 13 Aringoth Race Fix.esp 254 FE 14 Potema Fix.esp 254 FE 15 HiredThugsFix.esp 79 4f Better Dynamic Snow.esp 254 FE 16 Better Dynamic Snow - NSUTR Patch.esp 254 FE 17 Better Dynamic Snow Stairs Fix.esp 254 FE 18 EyesFix.esp 254 FE 19 Player Blink Fix.esp 80 50 Hunters Not Bandits.esp 81 51 SimplyKnock.esp 82 52 AddItemMenuSE.esp 254 FE 1a SOSRaceMenu.esp 83 53 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 254 FE 1b CBBE.esp 254 FE 1c RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 84 54 Sleep for Credit.esp 85 55 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 86 56 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 87 57 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 88 58 SGHairPackAIO.esp 89 59 saLa_Hairs.esp 90 5a Volkihar Knight.esp 254 FE 1d Volkihar Knight - Light Armor Option.esp 254 FE 1e 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp 91 5b Spouse Daily Routine.esp 254 FE 1f Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp 92 5c SMDropLitTorch.esp 93 5d OrcFemaleAnimations.esp 254 FE 20 Better Dynamic Ash.esp torch shadows.esp 254 FE 21 Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp 94 5e HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp 254 FE 22 Helgen Reborn TKAA Patch.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp 95 5f Tentapalooza.esp 96 60 Brows.esp 97 61 RaceMenuHH.esp 98 62 One With Nature.esp 99 63 SLSO.esp 100 64 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 101 65 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 102 66 SexLabRandomSex.esp 103 67 Fertility Mode.esp 104 68 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 105 69 SLAnimLoader.esp 106 6a SexLabDefeat.esp 254 FE 23 Beastess Forsworn.esp 107 6b Immersive Arousal.esp 108 6c Keeping Warm.esp 109 6d Animal_SOS.esp 110 6e AnubAnimObj.esp 111 6f SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 112 70 SLALAnimObj.esp 113 71 SLAL_K4Anims.esp 114 72 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 115 73 RohZima_AnimObjects.esp 116 74 NibblesAnimObjects.esp BDHoodieFemale.esp 117 75 BDHoodieSchlong.esp 254 FE 24 BDLoincloth.esp 118 76 MMGSchlong.esp 119 77 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 120 78 SexLabWerewolves.esp 254 FE 25 SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp 254 FE 26 SexlabLightMeUp.esp 121 79 SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp 254 FE 27 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 122 7a SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 123 7b AmorAdvExtended.esp 124 7c Man Those Borders!.esp 125 7d Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp 126 7e SpiceOfLife - OrcLStrongholds.esp 127 7f hearthfireextended.esp 128 80 SexLab More Creatures.esp 129 81 Point The Way.esp 130 82 Holidays.esp SoS_RLOInteriors_Patch.esp 131 83 Ars Metallica.esp 132 84 HentaiCreatures.esp 133 85 Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp 134 86 Master of Disguise - Joinable Factions Patch.esp 135 87 BeastessLair.esp 136 88 CFTO.esp 137 89 Run For Your Lives.esp 138 8a HeljarchenFarm.esp SoS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp 139 8b SexLab Beastess.esp 254 FE 28 Logging.esp DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp 140 8c Darkwater Crossing.esp DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp 141 8d Hunterborn.esp 254 FE 29 Heljarchen Farm - Man Those Borders Compatability Patch.esp 142 8e PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp 143 8f SkyfallEstate.esp CFTO - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp 144 90 Immersive Patrols II.esp 145 91 Bring Out Your Dead.esp 146 92 Shor's Stone.esp 147 93 CampfireFix.esp 148 94 RLGBrumaLanterns.esp 149 95 Frostfall.esp 150 96 Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp 151 97 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 152 98 Ivarstead.esp 254 FE 2a Blackthorn - Hunterborn Patch.esp 254 FE 2b Blackthorn - Hearthfire Fix.esp Dawn of Skyrim_Holidays_Patch.esp 153 99 SexLab_Dialogues.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp 154 9a Falkreath.esp 155 9b Provincial Courier Service.esp 156 9c Kynesgrove.esp 254 FE 2c Manor Roads.esp 157 9d Helarchen Creek.esp 158 9e Whistling Mine.esp 159 9f Soljund's Sinkhole.esp 160 a0 Storefront.esp 161 a1 Karthwasten.esp 162 a2 Rorikstead.esp 163 a3 ArgonianHearthfire.esp 164 a4 Dragon Bridge.esp Blowing in the Wind - RLO Major City Exteriors Patch SSE.esp 165 a5 Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp 166 a6 HelgenReborn+CFTO.esp 167 a7 SpousesEnhancedSE.esp 254 FE 2d No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp 168 a8 PilgrimsDelight.esp 254 FE 2e PCE - Holidays Patch.esp 254 FE 2f PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp 169 a9 OrcHearthfire.esp 170 aa KhajiitHearthfire.esp Dawn of Skyrim_Storefront_Patch.esp 171 ab Project Dovahen.esp Wind District BH Reborn- Dawn of Skyrim Patch.esp 172 ac BodySearch.esp PCE - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp 173 ad The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 174 ae HoldBorderBanners.esp 175 af CFTO - Arthmoor Danwstar Patch.esp 176 b0 HearthfireGrassFix.esp 177 b1 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 178 b2 Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch SSE.esp 179 b3 CFTO-Lanterns.esp 180 b4 Helarchen Creek - No Snow Under the Roof.esp 181 b5 BlackthornManorLanternsOfSkyrimPatch.esp 182 b6 Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp 254 FE 30 NARC SE for Vanilla.esp 183 b7 HornyCreatures.esp 184 b8 Local Fare.esp 185 b9 LoversComfort.esp 186 ba Gildergreen Regrown.esp 187 bb OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp 188 bc Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp 189 bd Whistling Mine - No Snow Under the Roof.esp 190 be HFE-CRF-Patch.esp 191 bf Follow me for Sex.esp DBM_DGE_Crossbow_Patch.esp 254 FE 31 Wind District BH Reborn- Holidays Patch.esp 192 c0 FNISspells.esp 193 c1 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Werewolves.esp 194 c2 The Ordinary Women.esp Bijin Wives.esp 195 c3 Lords of Skyrim.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp 254 FE 32 JailRape.esp 196 c4 Aesthetic Elisif.esp 197 c5 Cathedral Weathers.esp 198 c6 WetandCold.esp 254 FE 33 EEO CRF patch.esp 254 FE 34 EEO OBIS SE patch.esp 254 FE 35 Skysan_Icicle.esp 254 FE 36 BlendedRoads.esp 199 c7 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp 200 c8 KatriaBow.esp 254 FE 37 Shout.esp 254 FE 38 S3DRocks.esp 254 FE 39 shieldsoftheholds.esp 201 c9 Unique Uniques.esp EmbersHD - RLO Patch.esp 202 ca The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 203 cb TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 204 cc NB-Scars.esp 205 cd JS Barenziah SE - Johnskyrim.esp 254 FE 3a JS Dragon Claws - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp 254 FE 3b NARC SE patch - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp 206 ce Vampire Royal Armor v3.esp 254 FE 3c Skysan_Stalhrim.esp Skysan_AMB_CAPatch.esp 207 cf SparklesSE.esp 208 d0 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 254 FE 3d BSHeartlandFRF.esp 209 d1 HagravenSkinShaders.esp 254 FE 3e BSHeartland TKAA Patch.esp 254 FE 3f RLGBrumaLanterns LoS Patch.esp 210 d2 skyforgedShields.esp 211 d3 ENB Light.esp TorchesCastShadows.esp TorchesCastShadows_WLPatch.esp 254 FE 40 SoS_Cathedral_Patch.esp 254 FE 41 Fusax2.esp DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp DBM_DGE_Patch.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_KelCrossbowPatch.esp DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp 212 d4 SexistGuards.esp 254 FE 42 Qw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp 254 FE 43 Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp 254 FE 44 Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_CRF Patch.esp 213 d5 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 214 d6 skyforgedWeapons.esp 215 d7 SC_hairs.esp 216 d8 SC_PhobosHair.esp 217 d9 HFE-CFTO-Patch.esp 218 da CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp 219 db Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp 220 dc Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp 221 dd CullingFix.esp 222 de paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 223 df Public Executions.esp 224 e0 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 225 e1 DW.esp 226 e2 UniqueGrimsever.esp 227 e3 UniqueStormfang.esp 228 e4 KS Jewelry.esp 229 e5 ScrimshawExpanded.esp 254 FE 45 Cathedral Dynamic Snow.esp 230 e6 CarlottaValentiaHappyEnding.esp 254 FE 46 Carlotta Valentia HE - TKAA Patch.esp 231 e7 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp 232 e8 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp 233 e9 CailinFollower.esp RDO - USSEP Patch.esp 234 ea DaighreHappyEnding.esp 254 FE 47 PCE - RDO Patch.esp 254 FE 48 MLPSoulGems.esp 235 eb Inns and Taverns.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 254 FE 49 ABMM.esp 236 ec XPMSE.esp 237 ed Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 254 FE 4a Alternate Start LAL TKAA Patch.esp 238 ee Bruma - Alternate Start.esp 254 FE 4b PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp 239 ef ELE_SSE.esp 254 FE 4c SoS_ELE_Patch.esp 240 f0 RAO - ELE - Alternate Start Patch.esp 254 FE 4d Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp 241 f1 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 254 FE 4e RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp 242 f2 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 254 FE 4f Ilinalta - RealisticWaterTwo.esp 254 FE 50 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp 254 FE 51 Qw_ELE_RW2 Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp 254 FE 52 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 254 FE 53 Improved Adoptions USSEP fix.esp 243 f3 Tavern Room Doors.esp Before anyone asks, yes quite a few of those are ESL's and not all of them are turned on, it was just copied directly from LOOT. Now, so far I've only had random, inexplicable crashes outdoors that occur very rarely, and I'm still trying to figure out why there are invisible trees scattered about the world that I keep walking into and can apparently harvest for wood(doesn't get rid of the invisible tree though.), but my biggest problem so far is almost instant crashes upon entering taverns. Though that's only if I enter through the door. If I use Alternate Start to start in a tavern, for example the Bannered Mare which is the one I always pick, it will only crash if I look down at the main floor, and even then it took a good 30 seconds. If I just stay staring at the wall when I first spawn, with the only on-screen objects being some jars on a dresser and a random dog(There's a mod that I have not identified that adds two or three dogs to the Bannered Mare at least.), the game will not crash. If I open the door and walk to the stairs and stare at the dresser there with the candle on it, the game will not crash. But as soon as I look down to the main floor with the NPC's and assorted objects, it's like an invisible timer starts and I have about 30 seconds before a CTD. But as I said, entering through the front door makes the CTD instant, I tested that on the Falkreath inn, so it's not just the Bannered Mare. I've tried uninstalling every Tavern specific mod, had no effect. I tried uninstalling my lighting mods, had no effect, though that does not include ENB Light and Rudy's More ENB Lights. I also did not turn off Embers or Ultimate Fire Effects. However, considering I can stare at a candle with no CTD, since all of those effect that, I've ruled those out. I'm considering troubleshooting the old-fashioned way and disabling all and re-enabling one at a time, but that's a very time consuming process so I'm hoping I can get some feedback here that might help me skip that. Or maybe someone knows a tool or mod I can use to figure out what is causing the CTD. According to SSE Edit and Mod Organizer, there are no missing dependencies, everything is finding what it's looking for. LOOT also shows no errors.
Yinkle Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 On first look I'd suggest you remove either my ABMM mod or Random sex mod as they definitely won't play well together. Edit: I do mention this front and centre in the mod description.
Nyren Posted June 27, 2019 Author Posted June 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, thetrudarksoul said: Do you have the horse mesh patch for MNC? There's a horse mesh patch? Also, I solved the tavern CTD problem, it was Bijin AIO 2019. However, now it CTD's whenever I step either outside or into a town. It might load into the world space for about three seconds and then dies.
Grey Cloud Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 How many active esps are there? You have a mods that are adding a lot of content to your game, Warzones, OBIS, etc. You have things like swinging lanterns and smoke and shadows. You have as many patches as plug-ins. You have merged patches and a bashed patch.
Nyren Posted June 27, 2019 Author Posted June 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, thetrudarksoul said: Yes it was causing many ctds for people I got it and activated it. It stopped the outdoor crashes, at least around Falkreath. Still getting an instant CTD upon entering the Dead Man's Drink in Falkreath though, Bannered Mare is fine now once I removed Bijin AIO 2019. 26 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: How many active esps are there? You have a mods that are adding a lot of content to your game, Warzones, OBIS, etc. You have things like swinging lanterns and smoke and shadows. You have as many patches as plug-ins. You have merged patches and a bashed patch. According to MO2 there are 332 active plugins, combination of regular ESM/ESP/ESL files. The bashed patch is empty and not active.
Grey Cloud Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Nyren said: According to MO2 there are 332 active plugins, Not bad for a game that can only handle 254. [254 + 1 for the save = 255] I wonder why your game crashes?
Kaarinah Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: Not bad for a game that can only handle 254. [254 + 1 for the save = 255] I wonder why your game crashes? All ESLs count as one mod. I have at the moment 303 active plugins, of which closer to half are either ESL or ESL-flagged esps, so half my active plugins count as one esp. That's at least one positive with the CCs, they gave us ESLs. Can't think of much else, at least as a PC player...
Aylis Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 10:03 PM, Nyren said: There's a horse mesh patch? Also, I solved the tavern CTD problem, it was Bijin AIO 2019. However, now it CTD's whenever I step either outside or into a town. It might load into the world space for about three seconds and then dies. There is. I don't know the exact link (i'd have to look it up myself), but i put it up in the group 'LL' in my guide for beginners.
Aylis Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:09 PM, Fredfish said: This one? That might cause crashes when you leave a city or enter the area around a city. In an interior cell it is usually a mesh or skeleton causing problems. CTD at start is usually a broken/missing master or DynDOLOD. You'll find a few fixes and solutions in my thread:
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