Trying to create a stable game. Need Help please

[xyzxyz]

Hello,

I have been using sexlab mods for years and never got a stable game. Sooner or later it crashed or became froozen. Can you help me finding the source of the problems? The crashs start from level 1 and become more frequently the higher the level gets and when I do more quests or generell progress . TES5EDIT didn't find any major conflicts. I use the few tricks to make skyrim more stable, like changing the loading time, but it doesn't help much.
I added the last papyrus log so you can get an image how my game looks like.

This is my mod list. I try to avoid upgrading mods because that can mess things up.
 

 

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     paradise_halls.esm
  7  7     AOM.esm
  8  8     SkyMoMod.esm
  9  9     BBLuxurySuite.esm
 10  a     SexLab.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 12  c     Inn Girls Resources.esm
 13  d     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 14  e     SexLabAroused.esm
 15  f     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 16 10     Gray Fox Cowl.esm
 17 11     daymoyl.esm
 18 12     hdtHighHeel.esm
 19 13     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 20 14     UndergroundBathhouse.esm
 21 15     ApachiiHair.esm
 22 16     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 23 17     CreatureFramework.esm
 24 18     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 25 19     lordship.esp
 26 1a     Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 27 1b     The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp
 28 1c     Immersive Jewelry.esp
 29 1d     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
 30 1e     MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp
 31 1f     caliente's beautiful bodies edition.esp
 32 20     ts_erocktheme.esp
 33 21     viking warsword.esp
 34 22     ragnarsword.esp
 35 23     ensiferumbattlemusicbattlesong.esp
 36 24     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 37 25     Immersive Weapons.esp
 38 26     SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
 39 27     SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
 40 28     more dragons.esp
 41 29     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 42 2a     AsharaImperialOutfit.esp
 43 2b     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
 44 2c     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
 45 2d     MoreSlaves.esp
           GM-CookingRebalanceFinal.esp
 46 2e     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
 47 2f     Lets Tie You Up.esp
           display-model.esp
 48 30     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 49 31     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 50 32     RaceMenu.esp
 51 33     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 52 34     DD - Interactions.esp
 53 35     zzEstrus.esp
 54 36     UIExtensions.esp
 55 37     SLPleasure.esp
 56 38     MoreRevelers.esp
 57 39     SLAnimLoader.esp
 58 3a     SLALAnimObj.esp
 59 3b     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 60 3c     DrunkenSluts.esp
 61 3d     ub_cell_darkarea.esp
 62 3e     ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp
 63 3f     ub_tapestry.esp
 64 40     ub_invite_any_npc.esp
 65 41     Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp
 66 42     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 67 43     GGFriendlyWhore.esp
 68 44     SlaveTats.esp
 69 45     SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
 70 46     FNIS.esp
 71 47     SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
 72 48     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 73 49     mihailhealingorb.esp
 74 4a     Dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp
 75 4b     SkyUI.esp
 76 4c     SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp
 77 4d     GagSFX.esp
 78 4e     SLNaughtyCourier.esp
 79 4f     SkallagrimsArmory.esp
 80 50     SexLabDefeat.esp
 81 51     zaz-craft.esp
 82 52     Somewhat historically accurate swords.esp
 83 53     SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp
 84 54     Gatti12Jewelry.esp
 85 55     dD Enchanted Chests.esp
 86 56     SexLabDirtyTalk.esp
 87 57     NewArmoury.esp
 88 58     DD_Helpers.esp
 89 59     LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
 90 5a     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 91 5b     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 92 5c     AmorAdvExtended.esp
 93 5d     Dragon Born Castle.esp
 94 5e     SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
 95 5f     Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp
 96 60     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 97 61     SexyBanditCaptives.esp
 98 62     sutvaka2.esp
 99 63     Forgotten Dungeons.esp
100 64     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
101 65     PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
102 66     old-draugr-new-tricks.esp
103 67     Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp
104 68     TBOS.esp
           analtmerintrigue-hf.esp
105 69     AOM.esp
106 6a     Cloaks.esp
107 6b     Run For Your Lives.esp
108 6c     DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp
109 6d     SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
           BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
110 6e     FyrManor_BASE.esp
111 6f     DeviousTraps.esp
           buildablehouse.esp
112 70     PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
113 71     MoonstoneCastle.esp
114 72     SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp
115 73     PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp
116 74     vikinghouse.esp
117 75     GR123 Knights Templar.esp
118 76     markartharena.esp
119 77     morehunting.esp
120 78     SexLabSexBounty.esp
121 79     BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp
122 7a     Roman armor and weapons replacer.esp
123 7b     Kylie.esp
124 7c     Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE_LL.esp
125 7d     zzMaidOutfits.esp
126 7e     AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp
127 7f     paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
128 80     AddItemMenuLE.esp
129 81     BDIC.esp
130 82     DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp
131 83     Arcanum.esp
132 84     Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
133 85     Immersive Wenches.esp
134 86     quest_pitfighter.esp
135 87     AyleidSanctuary.esp
136 88     BBLSVisitors.esp
137 89     diversified conjuration.esp
138 8a     Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp
           northman race.esp
139 8b     artillery_dfa.esp
140 8c     FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp
           falkreath lookout.esp
141 8d     mihailvampirebeasts.esp
142 8e     mihailczart.esp
143 8f     OvIbrewing.esp
           beschuetzer von himmelsrand.esp
144 90     draugraxe.esp
145 91     SpousesEnhanced.esp
146 92     mihailrottenmaidens.esp
147 93     Silver Arrows and Bolts Mod by Meneldur.esp
148 94     Wildhunt_Manor.esp
149 95     FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp
150 96     mihailmmasithis.esp
151 97     SlaversHideout.esp
152 98     mihailcockatrice.esp
153 99     BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp
154 9a     moresmeltables.esp
155 9b     SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
156 9c     dr_bandolier.esp
157 9d     BBLSspouse.esp
158 9e     paula_follower.esp
159 9f     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
160 a0     NorseMaille.esp
161 a1     LoversComfort.esp
162 a2     Roman armor and weapons.esp
163 a3     JolgeirrBarrow.esp
164 a4     zSLSDNeophytes.esp
165 a5     TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
166 a6     romanweapons.esp
167 a7     FNISspells.esp
168 a8     EstrusChaurus.esp
169 a9     Greek_Armor.esp
170 aa     EstrusSpider.esp
171 ab     TW3Weaponry.esp
172 ac     aSexyMod.esp
173 ad     mihailoldgod.esp
174 ae     mihaildruidbackpack.esp
175 af     HentaiCreatures.esp
176 b0     BBLSmusic.esp
177 b1     RewardYourFollowers.esp
178 b2     mihailpoisondrake.esp
179 b3     Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp
180 b4     theeyesofbeauty.esp
181 b5     SimpleOutfitManager.esp
182 b6     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
183 b7     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
184 b8     ccas_starts.esp
185 b9     MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[Musje]

At a glance I see nothing worrying in the mod list. Be sure to run LOOT after installing new mods and also check the errors and warnings in that tool.

Papyrus log shows an error for Sexlab naked Creatures that should not be there: make sure you have the latest versions of that mod and all the dependencies, and that they are actually compatible with each other,

Aygas also shows an error on player zoning events that should not be there, I will take a closer look at that as it may be a bug.

 

As suggested in the Aygas thread, try running ENB in crash fix mode. This adds a lot of stability on older hardware.

Also read up on increasing the Papyrus budget. This helps with script heavy mods of which you have a few.

 

Running Oldrim with a lot of mods is a bit like keeping an old sports car in working order. It's worth it but you will have to get your hands dirty

[Psalam]

17 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Hello,

I have been using sexlab mods for years and never got a stable game. Sooner or later it crashed or became froozen. Can you help me finding the source of the problems? The crashs start from level 1 and become more frequently the higher the level gets and when I do more quests or generell progress . TES5EDIT didn't find any major conflicts. I use the few tricks to make skyrim more stable, like changing the loading time, but it doesn't help much.
I added the last papyrus log so you can get an image how my game looks like.

This is my mod list. I try to avoid upgrading mods because that can mess things up.
 

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     paradise_halls.esm
  7  7     AOM.esm
  8  8     SkyMoMod.esm
  9  9     BBLuxurySuite.esm
 10  a     SexLab.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 12  c     Inn Girls Resources.esm
 13  d     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 14  e     SexLabAroused.esm
 15  f     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 16 10     Gray Fox Cowl.esm
 17 11     daymoyl.esm
 18 12     hdtHighHeel.esm
 19 13     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 20 14     UndergroundBathhouse.esm
 21 15     ApachiiHair.esm
 22 16     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 23 17     CreatureFramework.esm
 24 18     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 25 19     lordship.esp
 26 1a     Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 27 1b     The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp
 28 1c     Immersive Jewelry.esp
 29 1d     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
 30 1e     MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp
 31 1f     caliente's beautiful bodies edition.esp
 32 20     ts_erocktheme.esp
 33 21     viking warsword.esp
 34 22     ragnarsword.esp
 35 23     ensiferumbattlemusicbattlesong.esp
 36 24     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 37 25     Immersive Weapons.esp
 38 26     SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
 39 27     SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
 40 28     more dragons.esp
 41 29     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 42 2a     AsharaImperialOutfit.esp
 43 2b     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
 44 2c     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
 45 2d     MoreSlaves.esp
           GM-CookingRebalanceFinal.esp
 46 2e     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
 47 2f     Lets Tie You Up.esp
           display-model.esp
 48 30     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 49 31     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 50 32     RaceMenu.esp
 51 33     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 52 34     DD - Interactions.esp
 53 35     zzEstrus.esp
 54 36     UIExtensions.esp
 55 37     SLPleasure.esp
 56 38     MoreRevelers.esp
 57 39     SLAnimLoader.esp
 58 3a     SLALAnimObj.esp
 59 3b     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 60 3c     DrunkenSluts.esp
 61 3d     ub_cell_darkarea.esp
 62 3e     ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp
 63 3f     ub_tapestry.esp
 64 40     ub_invite_any_npc.esp
 65 41     Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp
 66 42     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 67 43     GGFriendlyWhore.esp
 68 44     SlaveTats.esp
 69 45     SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
 70 46     FNIS.esp
 71 47     SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
 72 48     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 73 49     mihailhealingorb.esp
 74 4a     Dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp
 75 4b     SkyUI.esp
 76 4c     SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp
 77 4d     GagSFX.esp
 78 4e     SLNaughtyCourier.esp
 79 4f     SkallagrimsArmory.esp
 80 50     SexLabDefeat.esp
 81 51     zaz-craft.esp
 82 52     Somewhat historically accurate swords.esp
 83 53     SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp
 84 54     Gatti12Jewelry.esp
 85 55     dD Enchanted Chests.esp
 86 56     SexLabDirtyTalk.esp
 87 57     NewArmoury.esp
 88 58     DD_Helpers.esp
 89 59     LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
 90 5a     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 91 5b     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 92 5c     AmorAdvExtended.esp
 93 5d     Dragon Born Castle.esp
 94 5e     SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
 95 5f     Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp
 96 60     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 97 61     SexyBanditCaptives.esp
 98 62     sutvaka2.esp
 99 63     Forgotten Dungeons.esp
100 64     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
101 65     PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
102 66     old-draugr-new-tricks.esp
103 67     Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp
104 68     TBOS.esp
           analtmerintrigue-hf.esp
105 69     AOM.esp
106 6a     Cloaks.esp
107 6b     Run For Your Lives.esp
108 6c     DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp
109 6d     SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
           BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
110 6e     FyrManor_BASE.esp
111 6f     DeviousTraps.esp
           buildablehouse.esp
112 70     PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
113 71     MoonstoneCastle.esp
114 72     SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp
115 73     PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp
116 74     vikinghouse.esp
117 75     GR123 Knights Templar.esp
118 76     markartharena.esp
119 77     morehunting.esp
120 78     SexLabSexBounty.esp
121 79     BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp
122 7a     Roman armor and weapons replacer.esp
123 7b     Kylie.esp
124 7c     Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE_LL.esp
125 7d     zzMaidOutfits.esp
126 7e     AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp
127 7f     paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
128 80     AddItemMenuLE.esp
129 81     BDIC.esp
130 82     DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp
131 83     Arcanum.esp
132 84     Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
133 85     Immersive Wenches.esp
134 86     quest_pitfighter.esp
135 87     AyleidSanctuary.esp
136 88     BBLSVisitors.esp
137 89     diversified conjuration.esp
138 8a     Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp
           northman race.esp
139 8b     artillery_dfa.esp
140 8c     FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp
           falkreath lookout.esp
141 8d     mihailvampirebeasts.esp
142 8e     mihailczart.esp
143 8f     OvIbrewing.esp
           beschuetzer von himmelsrand.esp
144 90     draugraxe.esp
145 91     SpousesEnhanced.esp
146 92     mihailrottenmaidens.esp
147 93     Silver Arrows and Bolts Mod by Meneldur.esp
148 94     Wildhunt_Manor.esp
149 95     FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp
150 96     mihailmmasithis.esp
151 97     SlaversHideout.esp
152 98     mihailcockatrice.esp
153 99     BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp
154 9a     moresmeltables.esp
155 9b     SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
156 9c     dr_bandolier.esp
157 9d     BBLSspouse.esp
158 9e     paula_follower.esp
159 9f     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
160 a0     NorseMaille.esp
161 a1     LoversComfort.esp
162 a2     Roman armor and weapons.esp
163 a3     JolgeirrBarrow.esp
164 a4     zSLSDNeophytes.esp
165 a5     TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
166 a6     romanweapons.esp
167 a7     FNISspells.esp
168 a8     EstrusChaurus.esp
169 a9     Greek_Armor.esp
170 aa     EstrusSpider.esp
171 ab     TW3Weaponry.esp
172 ac     aSexyMod.esp
173 ad     mihailoldgod.esp
174 ae     mihaildruidbackpack.esp
175 af     HentaiCreatures.esp
176 b0     BBLSmusic.esp
177 b1     RewardYourFollowers.esp
178 b2     mihailpoisondrake.esp
179 b3     Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp
180 b4     theeyesofbeauty.esp
181 b5     SimpleOutfitManager.esp
182 b6     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
183 b7     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
184 b8     ccas_starts.esp
185 b9     MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

 

 

Papyrus.0.log 212.65 kB · 1 download

Let me also suggest you look at Donttouchmethere's blog:

 

He goes through every step that you need to take to get a stable game including giving links to all the needed tools.

[Zaflis]

I would strongly recommend reducing number of ESP's down to roughly 100 or few more. Don't aim for megasaves you keep building on and on, the main key to stability is periodically starting again from scratch. So only test a few mods at the time, not a massive batch of them. I have 109 esp's in my Skyrim, sometimes more or less. The more npc's you have the more unstable it is, so i had to make the hard decision to get rid of all "wenches" mods, and it helped.

 

And are you really sure you need hdtHighHeel.esm, is it a requirement for some mod? Is there a possibility it's not an important mod for you so both can be disabled?

[xyzxyz]

5 hours ago, Musje said:

At a glance I see nothing worrying in the mod list. Be sure to run LOOT after installing new mods and also check the errors and warnings in that tool. 

Papyrus log shows an error for Sexlab naked Creatures that should not be there: make sure you have the latest versions of that mod and all the dependencies, and that they are actually compatible with each other, 

Aygas also shows an error on player zoning events that should not be there, I will take a closer look at that as it may be a bug. 

 

As suggested in the Aygas thread, try running ENB in crash fix mode. This adds a lot of stability on older hardware. 

Also read up on increasing the Papyrus budget. This helps with script heavy mods of which you have a few. 

  

Running Oldrim with a lot of mods is a bit like keeping an old sports car in working order. It's worth it but you will have to get your hands dirty

Thank you very much. I already use enboost and Crash fixes, so I'm a bit worried what else I can do.    Can you tell me which mods are script heavy?

[xyzxyz]

32 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

I would strongly recommend reducing number of ESP's down to roughly 100 or few more. Don't aim for megasaves you keep building on and on, the main key to stability is periodically starting again from scratch. So only test a few mods at the time, not a massive batch of them. I have 109 esp's in my Skyrim, sometimes more or less. The more npc's you have the more unstable it is, so i had to make the hard decision to get rid of all "wenches" mods, and it helped. 

  

And are you really sure you need hdtHighHeel.esm, is it a requirement for some mod? Is there a possibility it's not an important mod for you so both can be disabled?

Well, I have 185 active mods at the time says Loot. Mostly item mods, some additional creatures (mihail for example) and not so many story mods. Item mods (armor/weapons/magic) shouldn't cause problems ?

[Grey Cloud]

With the exception of Psalam's post all the rest is nonsense.

 

Get your base game stable - follow, e.g. the S.T.E.P. guide.

Decide what you want from your game - requires thought.

Choose a mod manager and get to know its pros and cons - requires thought.

Read the descriptions of the mods which may provide you with something you want - requires reading and thought.

Add the mods as many as you want at at time but keep in mind if something goes tits then it is more difficult to track down the problem - requires searching, reading and thought.

Keep your animation count to around 10K with FNIS regular and around 12K with XXL - you can always add more later if your game can handle it.

Don't install an ENB until you are happy that you have a stable modded game.

 

Broad brush guide to trouble-shooting:

CTD on start up - either too many animations or missing masters. Crash Fixes will pop up a warning about a missing master and abort the load. NMM and LOOT would have given word too. If you suspect too many animations check the mod you just installed. Lots of mods add animations even though they are not 'animation' mods per se.

CTD in game - if in the same location: bad mesh or too much going on for your game to handle, e.g. textures on lots of NPCs. If in different locations: something eating your VRAM or look for a common denominator, e.g. the recent problems with v12 of MNC causing CTDs when near animals.

 

If your save gets screwed and none of the tools will fix it - so what? Forget it and move on, either roleback to an earlier save or start a new game. It's just a computer game - worse things happen at sea.

Never reinstall Skyrim - find and fix the problem. There aren't that many and they aren't that difficult to fettle.

 

It is not that difficult to get a stable game - lots of reading is the key thing. The technicals aren't that technical.

 

 

 

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

With the exception of Psalam's post all the rest is nonsense.

You're forgetting 1 very important point that is script load. It's very easy to get bloated with that in LL, and scripts can start behaving random/unpredictable ways and even cause crashes in worst case. Xyz has a number of big mods that are not just clothings or followers.

[xyzxyz]

I already have ENboost, Crash fixes and SKSE plugin Preloader. Still not stable. I rarely get a Crashfix message. Mostly it's just a CTD or a short "pling" and it's frozen.

[xyzxyz]

Is it wise to use LOOT after adding new mods midgame? I heard it can cause problems.

[Grey Cloud]

24 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

You're forgetting 1 very important point that is script load. It's very easy to get bloated with that in LL, and scripts can start behaving random/unpredictable ways and even cause crashes in worst case. Xyz has a number of big mods that are not just clothings or followers.

If the game is not stable before you get to LL then it is pointless worrying about script load. If the game is stable when you get here then you should be fine - unless you do something stupid such as download every mod featuring a pair of tits or a schlong without reading anything.

 

We are teetering on the brink of another discussion about this nebulous term 'script-heavy'.

[Grey Cloud]

5 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

I already have ENboost, Crash fixes and SKSE plugin Preloader. Still not stable. I rarely get a Crashfix message. Mostly it's just a CTD or a short "pling" and it's frozen.

Only gives the message when dealing with missing master(s), i.e. on game load. [AFAIK]

re-read and double-check your config and whatnot - those three will give a very stable game if installed properly. If in doubt consult the S.T.E.P. guide:

https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.10.0

 

8 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Is it wise to use LOOT after adding new mods midgame? I heard it can cause problems.

Perfectly safe. Lot of nonsense about changing the load number or somesuch.

 

All this should be in tech support as it is nothing to do with SexLab Framework.

[xyzxyz]

53 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

All this should be in tech support as it is nothing to do with SexLab Framework. 

Sorry about that. Since I don't really know what causes the problems I didn't want to go in the "non-porn" part of LL.

[xyzxyz]

This is my newest crash report. A CTD after fasttraveling to a place outside of riverwood. Can you find the problem?

Papyrus.0.log

[Psalam]

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

Is it wise to use LOOT after adding new mods midgame? I heard it can cause problems.

While there are some people who would disagree with me it is unwise in the extreme to change your load order in any way, including running LOOT, midgame. If you have an issue or desire to change your load order you must start a new game. VirginMarie (author of "Shout Like a Virgin") calls this her "golden rule", and my experience confirms that. There are exceptions possible to this rule, but it sounds like, you are at the point where you are better served just following the basic rules rather than looking at exceptions.

 

So, if the papyrus log that you've just uploaded comes from a game where you've changed your load order midgame, then I am unlikely to be able to help you. If you make a habit of changing things around as you go along, you are likely to continue to have CTDs.

[xyzxyz]

5 minutes ago, Psalam said:

While there are some people who would disagree with me it is unwise in the extreme to change your load order in any way, including running LOOT, midgame. If you have an issue or desire to change your load order you must start a new game. VirginMarie (author of "Shout Like a Virgin") calls this her "golden rule", and my experience confirms that. There are exceptions possible to this rule, but it sounds like, you are at the point where you are better served just following the basic rules rather than looking at exceptions. 

 

So, if the papyrus log that you've just uploaded comes from a game where you've changed your load order midgame, then I am unlikely to be able to help you. If you make a habit of changing things around as you go along, you are likely to continue to have CTDs. 

I changed not much. I removed AYGAS but that should be all. The save was clean.

[Grey Cloud]

57 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

I didn't want to go in the "non-porn" part of LL.

There is no such place. ? Tech support is full of people with sex mods in their load orders.

[CliftonJD]

On 6/24/2019 at 4:24 PM, xyzxyz said:

zzEstrus.esp

first issue i see in your log is a common issue with the nexus version of the estrus mod "zzestrus"

i believe in my load order i've disabled that mod for similar reasons long ago, not that i dislike the mod or quit using it, but sl has a sl estrus chaurus repack that has all the needed animations from it without the horrid papyrus spam you're getting

 

On 6/24/2019 at 4:24 PM, xyzxyz said:

DrunkenSluts.esp

next drunken sluts i would put on a cautionary list...especially since you've also increased the revelers with another esp before it (unknown reasons that mod caused me ctd's with stuff in the log about the drunken sluts...maybe try it again in the future when your game is more stable so that you can judge for yourself if there's really any issues with drunken sluts

 

On 6/24/2019 at 4:24 PM, xyzxyz said:

MoreSlaves.esp

is that the 50 slaves patch from nexus...if so pahe made that obsolete years ago and using it now would be a huge conflict

[xyzxyz]

4 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

next drunken sluts i would put on a cautionary list...especially since you've also increased the revelers with another esp before it (unknown reasons that mod caused me ctd's with stuff in the log about the drunken sluts...maybe try it again in the future when your game is more stable so that you can judge for yourself if there's really any issues with drunken sluts

  

is that the 50 slaves patch from nexus...if so pahe made that obsolete years ago and using it now would be a huge conflict

The increased number of revelers was part of the drunken sluts. It never worked by the way, so I will remove it.  Thank you for your help with PAHE and the old nexus stuff. I often hesitate to change older mods.

[CliftonJD]

4 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

The increased number of revelers was part of the drunken sluts. It never worked by the way, so I will remove it.  Thank you for your help with PAHE and the old nexus stuff. I often hesitate to change older mods.

due to the nature of your problem, we won't know for certain if those 3 problems are all that you had but we need to clear that up and get and updated log to see deeper...and on a fresh save recommended. cross your fingers we got a good chunk of the problems there and you're welcome

[Grey Cloud]

Just out of interest, which version of Estrus for Skyrim are you using? I use v2.41. r1 (with the esp active) and don't have a load of Papyrus errors (some but not a lot).

[xyzxyz]

On 6/29/2019 at 2:59 PM, Grey Cloud said:

Just out of interest, which version of Estrus for Skyrim are you using? I use v2.41. r1 (with the esp active) and don't have a load of Papyrus errors (some but not a lot).

It's v.1.11 installed 2016. I will upgrade it. Do you know to what mod alternative tentacle textures belongs? Estrus wants to overwrite it. I have to update all of estrus.

[Grey Cloud]

I have something called EstrusNewTexture2.7z Is this what you mean? Only came across it on my computer an hour ago. ? Can't remember anything about it. It hasn't got a NEXUS mod number but inside it has a folder called Estrus for Skyrim v222 and inside that is a folder with the name of the auothor of Estrus for Skyrim.

 

[CliftonJD]

6 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

It's v.1.11 installed 2016. I will upgrade it. Do you know to what mod alternative tentacle textures belongs? Estrus wants to overwrite it. I have to update all of estrus.

tentacle textures are directly aimed at the chaurus mods, that being 1 of them and sl estrus chaurus + is the other:

 

[xyzxyz]

14 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

tentacle textures are directly aimed at the chaurus mods, that being 1 of them and sl estrus chaurus + is the other:

 

I found another file called "alt maschine textures". It changes the dwemer animations to look more metallic but I have no Idea to what mod it belongs.