GenioMaestro Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, irvingmlfa said: ... Changing the manager does not remove the CTD. If you do not know MO, you will have more problems because you must learn to use a complex program, at the beginning it is not easy, and you must perform a new installation of the game. Doing all that thinking that MO can solve your CTD is an error. The manager does not cause or solve CTD. Using one manager or another is indifferent. You only need do the right things. The first thing you should know is this: Random CTD in different situations and different locations is a memory problem. Install and configure the Stablity Tools. Constant CTD always in the same location is a problem in a mesh caused by one mod. Disable mods until the problem is solved. If you always have the CTD in WhiteRun and only in WhiteRun and the game works perfectly in any other city, you have a problem in a mod that change WhiteRun. If your game make CTD randomly in any city or when you enter diferent buildings or when you make a fast travel, you have a problem in memory management. Check the Stablity Tools and configure it correctly.
irvingmlfa Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 8 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: Changing the manager does not remove the CTD. If you do not know MO, you will have more problems because you must learn to use a complex program, at the beginning it is not easy, and you must perform a new installation of the game. Doing all that thinking that MO can solve your CTD is an error. The manager does not cause or solve CTD. Using one manager or another is indifferent. You only need do the right things. The first thing you should know is this: Random CTD in different situations and different locations is a memory problem. Install and configure the Stablity Tools. Constant CTD always in the same location is a problem in a mesh caused by one mod. Disable mods until the problem is solved. If you always have the CTD in WhiteRun and only in WhiteRun and the game works perfectly in any other city, you have a problem in a mod that change WhiteRun. If your game make CTD randomly in any city or when you enter diferent buildings or when you make a fast travel, you have a problem in memory management. Check the Stablity Tools and configure it correctly. thats great to know!! i think yes its because of memory management also as i told you my pc its an old one maybe i will try once more hehehe and i will check the stability tools, but yeah the CTD its when im riding the horse and try to move from Whiterun to other place im running in the horse and suddenly the game CTD but it happens to me with the cursed loot mod installed when i deactivate it the games runs normal
fred200 Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 Check the VRAM on your GPU. If it is under 4GB - you are likely to have problems.
GenioMaestro Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, irvingmlfa said: thats great to know!! i think yes its because of memory management also as i told you my pc its an old one maybe i will try once more hehehe and i will check the stability tools, but yeah the CTD its when im riding the horse and try to move from Whiterun to other place im running in the horse and suddenly the game CTD but it happens to me with the cursed loot mod installed when i deactivate it the games runs normal The base game only support a small number of mods whitout problems, normally near 50. With some tools you can add 20 or 30 mods, up to 70 or 80. With all the tools you can add another 50, up to 120 or 130. With a good configuration in the tools you can up yours mods to 150 or 200 without problems. Each mod you add need their own part of memory. If you not have the game and the tools correctly configured, in any moment, you get the max number of mods supported by your configuration and any mod you add cause strange and random CTD. Some mods are big, very big, like DCUR, SlaveRun, SexSlaves, Captured Dreams... When you add a big mod you need a lot of memory for that mod. And the only way for have that memory is configure the tools. If the game and the tools are not correctly configured you get CTD and you think that the problem is in DCUR because if you remove DCUR the problem is solved. But DCUR works perfect and not have any problem. The big mods has been tested extensively and not cause CTD. The problem is aways in game configuration and tools configuration. You have a old machine, similar to a laptop, and you are a bit limited by the power of the machine. But that not mean that you can not add a lot of mods. Only mean that your game run more slow, with a low framerate, and need more time for load the game or save the game. You can have a slow ugly game. But you can have a lot of mods. Buying a new machine only give you a beautiful game that runs very fast and loads the game in 5 seconds. But if you not have the Stability Tools correctly configured in your new machine you have the same problems. Because the problems are not solved buying a new machine or changing the manager. The only way for solve the problems is configure the game and the tools in the correct way. All the Skyrim games have exactly the same problems for the same motive = Memory Management. The only difference between an old machine and a new one is speed and visual quality. Skyrim is an old game from 2011 and can not use the power of the new machines. Skyrim only can acess 3.1 gb of memory and for insert 200 mods in the 3.1 gb of memory all the machines need configure the Stability Tools in the correct way. No matter if the machine is old or new. Revise again the correct installation and configuration of the tools: SKSE Memory Manager Crash Fixes 12 ENB in Boost mode Open your skyrim.ini and look how many lines you have. If you continue having only a bit of lines you need download and run BethIni. Some parameter inside the INI files are related to the stability. If you not have the correct parameters inside the INI files your game can make CTD in any moment. You are ussing the integrated video card and you need install ENB and enable the Boost mode. In your case, is a bit dificult get the correct configuration for ENB in the file enblocal.ini because some parameters are machine dependant. You must start putting the recomended parameters and make fine tunning in enblocal.ini until you find the correct configuration of ENB for your machine.
irvingmlfa Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: The base game only support a small number of mods whitout problems, normally near 50. With some tools you can add 20 or 30 mods, up to 70 or 80. With all the tools you can add another 50, up to 120 or 130. With a good configuration in the tools you can up yours mods to 150 or 200 without problems. Each mod you add need their own part of memory. If you not have the game and the tools correctly configured, in any moment, you get the max number of mods supported by your configuration and any mod you add cause strange and random CTD. Some mods are big, very big, like DCUR, SlaveRun, SexSlaves, Captured Dreams... When you add a big mod you need a lot of memory for that mod. And the only way for have that memory is configure the tools. If the game and the tools are not correctly configured you get CTD and you think that the problem is in DCUR because if you remove DCUR the problem is solved. But DCUR works perfect and not have any problem. The big mods has been tested extensively and not cause CTD. The problem is aways in game configuration and tools configuration. You have a old machine, similar to a laptop, and you are a bit limited by the power of the machine. But that not mean that you can not add a lot of mods. Only mean that your game run more slow, with a low framerate, and need more time for load the game or save the game. You can have a slow ugly game. But you can have a lot of mods. Buying a new machine only give you a beautiful game that runs very fast and loads the game in 5 seconds. But if you not have the Stability Tools correctly configured in your new machine you have the same problems. Because the problems are not solved buying a new machine or changing the manager. The only way for solve the problems is configure the game and the tools in the correct way. All the Skyrim games have exactly the same problems for the same motive = Memory Management. The only difference between an old machine and a new one is speed and visual quality. Skyrim is an old game from 2011 and can not use the power of the new machines. Skyrim only can acess 3.1 gb of memory and for insert 200 mods in the 3.1 gb of memory all the machines need configure the Stability Tools in the correct way. No matter if the machine is old or new. Revise again the correct installation and configuration of the tools: SKSE Memory Manager Crash Fixes 12 ENB in Boost mode Open your skyrim.ini and look how many lines you have. If you continue having only a bit of lines you need download and run BethIni. Some parameter inside the INI files are related to the stability. If you not have the correct parameters inside the INI files your game can make CTD in any moment. You are ussing the integrated video card and you need install ENB and enable the Boost mode. In your case, is a bit dificult get the correct configuration for ENB in the file enblocal.ini because some parameters are machine dependant. You must start putting the recomended parameters and make fine tunning in enblocal.ini until you find the correct configuration of ENB for your machine. Yes in fact I think that Cursed loot and CD are ones of the best mods I love them! however I fear that my pc memory is really quite poor even for the requirements of Skyrim although it runs well maybe do it with more effort, and for that reason I have been able to enjoy these creations, i instale and ran bethINI and now my INI files contains many more things, This was my last modification that I made for the ENBoost but well still I suffered a crash I guess I will continue to experiment with to se if i can catch a good configuration for my oldy pc again, thank you very much for your advice and recommendations see this is my ENBoost Spoiler [PROXY] EnableProxyLibrary=false InitProxyFunctions=true ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll [GLOBAL] UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true UseDefferedRendering=true IgnoreCreationKit=true [PERFORMANCE] SpeedHack=true EnableOcclusionCulling=true [MEMORY] ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true DisableDriverMemoryManager=false DisablePreloadToVRAM=false EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false ReservedMemorySizeMb=128 VideoMemorySizeMb=2200 EnableCompression=true AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false [THREADS] DataSyncMode=0 PriorityMode=0 EnableUnsafeFixes=false [MULTIHEAD] ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false VideoAdapterIndex=0 [WINDOW] ForceBorderless=false ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false [ENGINE] ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true MaxAnisotropy=4 ForceLodBias=false LodBias=0.0 AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false EnableVSync=true VSyncSkipNumFrames=0 [LIMITER] WaitBusyRenderer=false EnableFPSLimit=false FPSLimit=10.0 [INPUT] //shift KeyCombination=16 //f12 KeyUseEffect=123 //home KeyFPSLimit=36 //num / 106 KeyShowFPS=106 //print screen KeyScreenshot=44 //enter KeyEditor=13 //f4 KeyFreeVRAM=115 //B KeyBruteForce=66 KeyDepthOfField=118 [ADAPTIVEQUALITY] Enable=false Quality=1 DesiredFPS=20.0 [ANTIALIASING] EnableEdgeAA=false EnableTemporalAA=false EnableSubPixelAA=false [FIX] FixGameBugs=true FixParallaxBugs=true FixParallaxTerrain=false FixAliasedTextures=false IgnoreInventory=true FixTintGamma=false RemoveBlur=false FixSubSurfaceScattering=true FixSkyReflection=true FixCursorVisibility=true FixLag=false [LONGEXPOSURE] EnableLongExposureMode=false Time=1.0 BlendMax=0.0
GenioMaestro Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 5 hours ago, irvingmlfa said: ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true The parameter ExpandSystemMemoryX64 in enblocal.ini must be FALSE. ExpandSystemMemoryX64=FALSE That tells me that you have not installed Crash Fixes 12 or that you have installed it incorrectly or that you have changed some parameters in CrashFixPlugin.ini for ignore the errors messages. When I start the game with Crash Fixes 12 correctly installed and configured and I put ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true in enblocal.ini I get this error: Spoiler Revise, again, the installations of the tools. The only way for solve the problems is install and configure the Stablity Tools in the correct way.
Varithina Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 If you are using world texture re-placers take a look at them as well, if they are 4k drop them to 2k, that was the main thing I found when having ctd when fast traveling or exiting buildings and such, also if you use high res textures for the player/npc try dropping those down if they are 4k try using 2k versions. It might also be worth while dropping the quality of the lods you are generating as well, whiterun has a lot of surrounding stuff showing when you arrive.
GenioMaestro Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Varithina said: If you are using world texture re-placers take a look at them as well, if they are 4k drop them to 2k, that was the main thing I found when having ctd when fast traveling or exiting buildings and such, also if you use high res textures for the player/npc try dropping those down if they are 4k try using 2k versions. It might also be worth while dropping the quality of the lods you are generating as well, whiterun has a lot of surrounding stuff showing when you arrive. irvingmlfa has a small old machine WITHOUT graphic card. irvingmlfa is using the video card integrated in the CPU, exactly "AMD Radeon (TM) R3 Graphics" which have ZERO == 0 mb of Vram because it uses RAM shared with the motherboard. That does not mean that Skyrim CAN NOT work. As you can read, irvingmlfa is playing Skyrim with many mods like DCUR and CD and all the requirements like Sexlab, DD, Aroused ... and the only problem is the same problem that all Skyrim players have with their Super Computers with Super Video Cards ==> CTD caused by bad configuration. The game does not make CTD for use 4k or 8k textures. The game does CTD because it is misconfigured. I have a 5 years old machine with a simple GTX 660 with 2 gb of Vram and I can play my game without CTD when I install 8k textures of Demoniac and 4k of the Redux Wet function. I can play exactly the same game with exactly the same configuration and exactly the same textures without CTD when I disable my GTX 660 and enable my Intel HD 4600, which is my GPU integrated into my i5-4460 CPU, because my game is configured correctly. The only difference when using a video card or the other or the 2k, 4k or 8k textures is the visual quality and the frame rate. If you have CTD in your game when you use 4k or 8k textures, it's because you have your game bad configured. Install the stability tools, configure it correctly and stop saying that the game has problems that do not really have. EDIT: If someone thinks I'm saying nonsense, you can see some screenshots of my game running on my Intel HD 4600 with exactly the same mods and the same textures, without changing any parameters in the configuration. You can see how I play my game with 237 plugings, ELFX, SlaveRun, Virgin, PSQ and all the requirements without any problem and without CTD. Spoiler Running Skyrim on my integrated Intel HD 4600 video card only forces me to run the game at a lower resolution, 1440x900, and a lower frame rate of 10-15 to 25-30. With my GTX 660 I can play in full hd 1920x1080 at 50-60 frames. Using one video card or the other does not mean CTD since all the CTDs in Skyrim are solved by configuring the game and the tools in the correct way.
irvingmlfa Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 13 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: The parameter ExpandSystemMemoryX64 in enblocal.ini must be FALSE. ExpandSystemMemoryX64=FALSE That tells me that you have not installed Crash Fixes 12 or that you have installed it incorrectly or that you have changed some parameters in CrashFixPlugin.ini for ignore the errors messages. When I start the game with Crash Fixes 12 correctly installed and configured and I put ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true in enblocal.ini I get this error: Reveal hidden contents Revise, again, the installations of the tools. The only way for solve the problems is install and configure the Stablity Tools in the correct way. hi again! i install now the crash fixes 12 and install it following the instructions also with this ExpandSystemMemoryX64=FALSE still im having a crash but im thinking that my save game its corrupted now because in a new game i dont crash in the place where i did in my last savegame I also noticed that some of the NPCs still use an armor model that I uninstall and in the new game they use the ones that should be according to what I still have active in the NMM, maybe can be that my savegame is corrupted
GenioMaestro Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 2 hours ago, irvingmlfa said: hi again! i install now the crash fixes 12 and install it following the instructions also with this ExpandSystemMemoryX64=FALSE still im having a crash but im thinking that my save game its corrupted now because in a new game i dont crash in the place where i did in my last savegame I also noticed that some of the NPCs still use an armor model that I uninstall and in the new game they use the ones that should be according to what I still have active in the NMM, maybe can be that my savegame is corrupted If you remove a mod in mid game is strictly obligatory clean the savegame with ReSaver. Aditionaly, when you change yours mods you must think that you are making a test. You not know the mod, not know how install it, not know how works the mod and not know what options have in the MCM. Really, you are making a experiment. If the instalation or the configuration go bad and you save the game you can store bad things in the savegame. While you make experiments you must delete yours savegames and load an older savegame for be sure you not have trash inside the savegame. Finally, the savegame can go corrupt. Is strange but can happend. If your game are making strange things, not save the game. Load an old savegame and try again.
altoft316 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 3/21/2019 at 10:50 PM, tobbelido said: hello i recently started modding skyrim again and thought i should try to download deviously cursed loot. after a while of playing i wandered to whiterun when i noticed that my game crashed right before i get to the whiterun stables, i have tried everything i could think of to get this resolved but my attempts have been futile so i thought i would be asking here to see if someone has any ideas. i use nmm with loot and fnis. my load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ApachiiHair.esm 7 7 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a RaceCompatibility.esm 11 b CreatureFramework.esm 12 c ZaZAnimationPack.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Assets.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Integration.esm 15 f MolagBalsInferno.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 17 11 HighResTexturePack01.esp 18 12 HighResTexturePack02.esp 19 13 HighResTexturePack03.esp 20 14 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 21 15 ElvenChainMail.esp 22 16 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 23 17 Botox.esp 24 18 Botox_CharGen.esp 25 19 SkyUI.esp 26 1a HDT Havok Object.esp 27 1b RealisticWaterTwo.esp 28 1c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 29 1d SMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp 30 1e Immersive Weapons.esp 31 1f 1nivWICCloaks.esp 32 20 RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp 33 21 FNIS.esp 34 22 female mannequins.esp 35 23 RaceMenu.esp 36 24 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 37 25 LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp 38 26 KS Hairdo's.esp 39 27 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 40 28 Skyshards.esp 41 29 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 42 2a Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 43 2b Aya.esp 44 2c Santanism.esp 45 2d Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp 46 2e RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 47 2f Lost Eyes.esp 48 30 FootIKOffSpell.esp 49 31 SexLabDefeat.esp 50 32 Two handed Improvement.esp 51 33 TKDodge.esp 52 34 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 53 35 R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp 54 36 GDZZJJDH.esp 55 37 H2135ValentineDayOutfit2019.esp 56 38 Action Combat.esp 57 39 UltimateCombat.esp 58 3a 3PCOFull.esp 59 3b DynamicDungeonLoot.esp 60 3c Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 61 3d SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 62 3e SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 63 3f SexLabTools.esp 64 40 SLAnimLoader.esp creation kit.esp 65 41 SuccubusRaceLite.esp 66 42 AnubAnimObj.esp 67 43 MoreNastyCritters.esp 68 44 BDVanillaCritters.esp 69 45 LevelUp3x.esp 70 46 RunDBRun.esp 71 47 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 72 48 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 73 49 XPMSE.esp 74 4a SOSRaceMenu.esp 75 4b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 76 4c Bashed Patch, 0.esp I have a similar problem, quite light on mods and nothing too demanding, deviously cursed loot was running fine, then a guard put a latex catsuit on me and it has started crashing and does everytime I try to fast travel away from whiterun or even go through the gates. it works fine again if I deactivate the mod, is there something I can download to help with this? or a patch?
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