Leodriz Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 Hi there, I have frustrating problem that has ben there for quite while now, through multiple play-throughs. Quite often, in the middle of a fight, some or al of the hostile suddenly turn not hostile and walks away. If i attack them again it takes quite a few strikes befor they torn hostila again and only the one i attack turn hostile. Any ide what could be causing this and how to fix it? Load order in spoiler below. Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm DreadPrison.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm CreatureFramework.esm dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm DeviousFramework.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Heels Sound.esm Heretical Resources.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SGHairPackBase.esm ZazExtensionPack.esm ScocLB.esm RidingStyles2.esm paradise_halls.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp dangerous animals - light.esp DangerousAnimals.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu2.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp immersive roads.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp Slavewaymanor.esm.esp Lakeview_Extended.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Prettier Bandits.esp zdd.esp HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp OBIS.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp Captured Dreams.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp SexLab-Stories.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp SexyBanditCaptives.esp SexLab More Creatures.esp Immersive Weapons.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp ModWhiterun.esp Bondage Furniture World.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp Populated Forts Towers Places.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp zDeadlyPleasures.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp SexLab-Parasites.esp East Reach House.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp Devious Cidhna.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp tokrMixed.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp HornyCreatures.esp Brows.esp Daedric Extra Armor.esp Mannequin.esp dcc-dm2.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Dead Body Collision.esp FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp DfwSupport.esp FadeTattoos.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp HAnimations.esp HDT Female Hairstyles.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Vivid Weathers.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp iHUD.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp SassyTeen.esp SummonAnimalPets_immersive.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SexistGuards.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabTools.esp SGHair33x144.esp SGHairMIX2.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Skysan_UltraSkimpy.esp SkyUI.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SlaveTats.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp SleepTight.esp SLPleasure.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp TavernClothes-MTM.esp Vivid Landscapes.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp XPMSE.esp Z_Underwater_Aerial_Combat.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp SexLab Strapon.esp Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp Angelicoll.esp AnimatedParasites.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin Wives.esp SexLabDangerousNights2.esp DeviousToys.esp DeviouslyHelpless.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp EstrusChaurus.esp EstrusSpider.esp zzEstrus.esp HDTSextoys.esp Hydra Devious Devices Patch.esp RapeTattoos.esp Simple Slavery Defeat.esp KomAnimObjects.esp nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp KomAnimScaler.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLAL_K4Anims.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp Angeli Devious Expansion.esp br_enl.esp SexLab Inflation Framework.esp ScoclbQuestSexlab.esp Horgasm.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp Summon Horse Spells.esp Aradia Devious Expansion.esp C5Kev's Aradia Animated Living Armor.esp C5Kev's Mega Jelly Living Armor UUNP.esp C5Kev's Sexy Rose Armor UUNP.esp Sextreme-All.esp Sextreme-BND_Series.esp Sextreme_HCR.esp ZAPFurniturePlacer.esp dD Enchanted Chests.esp EstrusDwemer.esp Bandit Patrols.esp DreadPrisonAddon01.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp Populated Skyrim Civil War Patrols.esp Jaggarsfeld.esp ol3dSlAndFurn.esp tokrDreadPrison.esp TropicalIsland.esp Populated Imperials Stormcloaks Battles.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp Naked Dungeons.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp SD Addons.esp Scent of Sex.esp Khajit_stuff.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp Neo's Selene.esp Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp oli3d-ZaZ-FurnPlacer.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp xo3dBondageFurniture.esp The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp OBISDB.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp pahe-tdf-patch.esp Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp SexLabDefeat.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp
Psalam Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 Spoiler 4 hours ago, Leodriz said: Hi there, I have frustrating problem that has ben there for quite while now, through multiple play-throughs. Quite often, in the middle of a fight, some or al of the hostile suddenly turn not hostile and walks away. If i attack them again it takes quite a few strikes befor they torn hostila again and only the one i attack turn hostile. Any ide what could be causing this and how to fix it? Load order in spoiler below. Hide contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm DreadPrison.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm CreatureFramework.esm dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm DeviousFramework.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Heels Sound.esm Heretical Resources.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SGHairPackBase.esm ZazExtensionPack.esm ScocLB.esm RidingStyles2.esm paradise_halls.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp dangerous animals - light.esp DangerousAnimals.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu2.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp immersive roads.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp Slavewaymanor.esm.esp Lakeview_Extended.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Prettier Bandits.esp zdd.esp HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp OBIS.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp Captured Dreams.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp SexLab-Stories.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp SexyBanditCaptives.esp SexLab More Creatures.esp Immersive Weapons.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp ModWhiterun.esp Bondage Furniture World.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp Populated Forts Towers Places.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp zDeadlyPleasures.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp SexLab-Parasites.esp East Reach House.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp Devious Cidhna.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp tokrMixed.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp HornyCreatures.esp Brows.esp Daedric Extra Armor.esp Mannequin.esp dcc-dm2.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Dead Body Collision.esp FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp DfwSupport.esp FadeTattoos.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp HAnimations.esp HDT Female Hairstyles.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Vivid Weathers.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp iHUD.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp SassyTeen.esp SummonAnimalPets_immersive.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SexistGuards.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabTools.esp SGHair33x144.esp SGHairMIX2.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Skysan_UltraSkimpy.esp SkyUI.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SlaveTats.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp SleepTight.esp SLPleasure.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp TavernClothes-MTM.esp Vivid Landscapes.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp XPMSE.esp Z_Underwater_Aerial_Combat.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp SexLab Strapon.esp Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp Angelicoll.esp AnimatedParasites.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin Wives.esp SexLabDangerousNights2.esp DeviousToys.esp DeviouslyHelpless.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp EstrusChaurus.esp EstrusSpider.esp zzEstrus.esp HDTSextoys.esp Hydra Devious Devices Patch.esp RapeTattoos.esp Simple Slavery Defeat.esp KomAnimObjects.esp nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp KomAnimScaler.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLAL_K4Anims.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp Angeli Devious Expansion.esp br_enl.esp SexLab Inflation Framework.esp ScoclbQuestSexlab.esp Horgasm.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp Summon Horse Spells.esp Aradia Devious Expansion.esp C5Kev's Aradia Animated Living Armor.esp C5Kev's Mega Jelly Living Armor UUNP.esp C5Kev's Sexy Rose Armor UUNP.esp Sextreme-All.esp Sextreme-BND_Series.esp Sextreme_HCR.esp ZAPFurniturePlacer.esp dD Enchanted Chests.esp EstrusDwemer.esp Bandit Patrols.esp DreadPrisonAddon01.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp Populated Skyrim Civil War Patrols.esp Jaggarsfeld.esp ol3dSlAndFurn.esp tokrDreadPrison.esp TropicalIsland.esp Populated Imperials Stormcloaks Battles.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp Naked Dungeons.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp SD Addons.esp Scent of Sex.esp Khajit_stuff.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp Neo's Selene.esp Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp oli3d-ZaZ-FurnPlacer.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp xo3dBondageFurniture.esp The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp OBISDB.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp pahe-tdf-patch.esp Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp SexLabDefeat.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp While I see issues with your load order nothing about the particular mods jump out as the cause of your problem. However, how many plug-ins is that? Often when you push (and push past) the limits you get unusual results.
donttouchmethere Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 you could check: > if you have something on you that triggers deviously helpless according to your MCM settings (for example if the bandits get friendly if you change your weapon) > clean SLdefeat via MCMdebug > maybe you are still in a faction that is friendly to bandits, as leftover after some kind of defeat/enslavement
Leodriz Posted January 23, 2019 Author Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: you could check: > if you have something on you that triggers deviously helpless according to your MCM settings (for example if the bandits get friendly if you change your weapon) > clean SLdefeat via MCMdebug > maybe you are still in a faction that is friendly to bandits, as leftover after some kind of defeat/enslavement Defeat and helpless were my first suspects allso, but i have started new games with these uninstalled and it still happens. I have allso tried without Cursed loot. All tries started with a save from a compleately unmodded Skyrim.
Leodriz Posted January 23, 2019 Author Posted January 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents While I see issues with your load order nothing about the particular mods jump out as the cause of your problem. However, how many plug-ins is that? Often when you push (and push past) the limits you get unusual results. 233 mods. Too many?
Psalam Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 Spoiler 2 minutes ago, Leodriz said: 233 mods. Too many? No, it shouldn't be. Would it be possible to get a papyrus log? Perhaps it will identify what's going on at the time.
donttouchmethere Posted January 23, 2019 Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Leodriz said: Defeat and helpless were my first suspects allso, but i have started new games with these uninstalled and it still happens. I have allso tried without Cursed loot. All tries started with a save from a compleately unmodded Skyrim. Naked Dungeons.esp has a helpless feature and a defeat feature, also the helpless feature works with factions. SD+ will add you to hostile factions too depending on your master during enslavement be sure you don't hit accidently a surrender key of those? with DDe you can see and modify factions your are in. You could remove factions one by one to see what faction got you stuck with being friendly to hostiles. DFW show those factions too. do you use all those surrender and helpless features at the same time? You could also tell us what you tried already by removing mods instead of let ppl guess o.O You have a lot of mods that do the same, did you config all MCM to compensate for that? Even so, a lot of mods that change factions to calm hostiles will conflict during surrender. Or to be more precise, getting added by multiple mods to factions after surrender might create leftovers. DFW+DFWS can already create strange NPC behaviour. Same goes for NDUNs helpless feature combined with deviously helpless.
Leodriz Posted January 25, 2019 Author Posted January 25, 2019 On 1/23/2019 at 5:10 PM, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents No, it shouldn't be. Would it be possible to get a papyrus log? Perhaps it will identify what's going on at the time. Next time it happens I'll try to get the papyrus as soon as possible after. I'll get back with that.
Leodriz Posted January 25, 2019 Author Posted January 25, 2019 On 1/23/2019 at 8:54 PM, donttouchmethere said: Naked Dungeons.esp has a helpless feature and a defeat feature, also the helpless feature works with factions. SD+ will add you to hostile factions too depending on your master during enslavement be sure you don't hit accidently a surrender key of those? Naked Dungeons could possibly be a cullprit, I'll try for a while without it. In my latest try SD hasn't started anything yet so it seams far fetched, but I'll try without that to. Yep, I'm sure I havnt hitten any surrender button at the time. with DDe you can see and modify factions your are in. You could remove factions one by one to see what faction got you stuck with being friendly to hostiles. DFW show those factions too. I didn't know that. I'll sure check it out. do you use all those surrender and helpless features at the same time? Nope, there are different things in all the mods that I want, but I only use one surrender mod at a time. Normaly defeat. But I have allso tried without Defeat installed and with only ND or Cursed Loot. You could also tell us what you tried already by removing mods instead of let ppl guess o.O Just wanted to keep you open minded ;). No, by bad. Of course I should have gone more into detail of what I have tried. You have a lot of mods that do the same, did you config all MCM to compensate for that? As far as i know, yes. But I could have missed something somwhare. I will try again, new game, with a lot less mods with helpless and defeat features. Even so, a lot of mods that change factions to calm hostiles will conflict during surrender. Or to be more precise, getting added by multiple mods to factions after surrender might create leftovers.Mmm, I'ts a bit frustrating when there are so many great mods out there with their own unique features but with common components... DFW+DFWS can already create strange NPC behaviour. Same goes for NDUNs helpless feature combined with deviously helpless.Ok, I'll give it a go without NDUN or Deviously Helpless and see if there is any change. DFW i don't want to be without. Thank you for a lot of good pointers. (answers in green in qoute). I guess I'll try to play a bit with vanilla Skyrim without any mods to get a clean save a bit into the game. From there start adding mods but without the identified possible culprits and then add some of them one at a time. It will take me while to try all this though. Thanks for your time.
Leodriz Posted January 26, 2019 Author Posted January 26, 2019 Ok, new game. I'm on the first real quest to find the golden claw. I've fought throug quite a lot of bandits without any glitch. But a bit down the burrow the duergar suddenly turned friendly. For as far as i know I have disabled all mods that has surrender or helpless features. This is my new load order. Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm DreadPrison.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm CreatureFramework.esm dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm DeviousFramework.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Heels Sound.esm Heretical Resources.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SGHairPackBase.esm ZazExtensionPack.esm ScocLB.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp dangerous animals - light.esp DangerousAnimals.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu2.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp immersive roads.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Slavewaymanor.esm.esp Lakeview_Extended.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Prettier Bandits.esp zdd.esp HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp OBIS.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp SexLab-Stories.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp SexyBanditCaptives.esp SexLab More Creatures.esp Immersive Weapons.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp ModWhiterun.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Populated Forts Towers Places.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp Devious Cidhna.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp tokrMixed.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp HornyCreatures.esp Brows.esp Daedric Extra Armor.esp Mannequin.esp dcc-dm2.esp Dead Body Collision.esp FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp DfwSupport.esp FadeTattoos.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp HAnimations.esp HDT Female Hairstyles.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Vivid Weathers.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp iHUD.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp SassyTeen.esp SummonAnimalPets_immersive.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SexistGuards.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabTools.esp SGHair33x144.esp SGHairMIX2.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Skysan_UltraSkimpy.esp SkyUI.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SlaveTats.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp SleepTight.esp SLPleasure.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp TavernClothes-MTM.esp Vivid Landscapes.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp XPMSE.esp Z_Underwater_Aerial_Combat.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp SexLab Strapon.esp Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp Angelicoll.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin Wives.esp DeviousToys.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp HDTSextoys.esp Simple Slavery Defeat.esp KomAnimObjects.esp nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp KomAnimScaler.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLAL_K4Anims.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp Angeli Devious Expansion.esp SexLab Inflation Framework.esp ScoclbQuestSexlab.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp Summon Horse Spells.esp Aradia Devious Expansion.esp C5Kev's Aradia Animated Living Armor.esp C5Kev's Mega Jelly Living Armor UUNP.esp C5Kev's Sexy Rose Armor UUNP.esp Sextreme-All.esp Sextreme-BND_Series.esp Sextreme_HCR.esp ZAPFurniturePlacer.esp Bandit Patrols.esp DreadPrisonAddon01.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp Populated Skyrim Civil War Patrols.esp Jaggarsfeld.esp ol3dSlAndFurn.esp tokrDreadPrison.esp TropicalIsland.esp Populated Imperials Stormcloaks Battles.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp Scent of Sex.esp Khajit_stuff.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp Neo's Selene.esp Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp oli3d-ZaZ-FurnPlacer.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp xo3dBondageFurniture.esp The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp OBISDB.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp I allso took a look at the factions in DFW, looks as follows. This is taken just after one of the now too friendly corpses approached my char for sex. Spoiler Player 14 factions Page 1/2 0x6C00d045-SOS Dialog Setup: 0 (True) 0x6c00aff8-schlongified faction: -1 (false) 0x-4-12-15-14-12-4-14-1-All friends to stop combats (SSX) 0 (True) 0x-4-12-15-12-14-11-1-11.Involved in sex scenes (SSX) -1 false 0x0807c025-SLA TimeRate: 11 (TRUE) 0x0803fc36-SLA Arousal 33 (TRUE) 0x08025B37-SLA Exposure:33 (TRUE) 0x08077f87-SLA Naked: -2 (False) 0x04031846-0x04031846: 0 (TRUE) 0x04017EBD-0x04017EBD: 0 (TRUE) 0x00000Db1-Player Faction: 0 (TRUE) 0x0009E0C9-Allegiance Faction 0 (TRUE) 0x000F2073-Player Bed: 0 (TRUE) I reloaded just befor it happened and took a look at FDW, here the duergar are stil hostile Spoiler Player 21 Factions Page 1/3 0x-4-12-15-9-14-3-2-3-0x-4-12-15-9-14-3-2-3: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-10-10-5-6-5-0x-4-12-15-10-10-5-6-5: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-110-10-6-0x-4-12-15-110-10-6: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-110-10-4-0x-4-12-15-110-10-4: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-110-10-5-0x-4-12-15-110-10-5: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-12-14-11-1-11-Involved in Sex Scenes (SSX) : -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-12-10-10-5-6-6-0x-4-12-15-12-10-10-5-6-6: -1 (False) 0*-4-12-15-12-14-11-1-10-NPCs where the player can ask for sex (SSX) : -1 (False) 0xC00D045-SOS Dialog Setup: 0 (TRUE) 0x6C00AFF8-Schlongified faction: -1 (False) 0c807c025-SLA Timerate: 6 (TRUE) 0x803FC36-SLA Arousal: 47 (TRUE) 0x8025837-SLA Exposure: 35 (TRUE) 0x8077F87-SLA Naked: -2 (False) 0x0A029567-Devious Devices Animating Faction: -1 (False) 0x04031846-0x04031846: 0 (TRUE) 0x04017EBD-0x04017EBD: 0 (TRUE) 0x00000Db1-Player Faction: 0 (TRUE) 0x0009E0C9-Allegiance Faction: 0 (TRUE) 0x0008F3E8-Charm Faction 0 (TRUE) 0x000F2073-Player Bed: 0 (TRUE) Unfortunateley I didn't manage to get a papyrus log since it took a little while before I noticed they were friendly.
Psalam Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Spoiler 4 hours ago, Leodriz said: Ok, new game. I'm on the first real quest to find the golden claw. I've fought throug quite a lot of bandits without any glitch. But a bit down the burrow the duergar suddenly turned friendly. For as far as i know I have disabled all mods that has surrender or helpless features. This is my new load order. Reveal hidden contents Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm DreadPrison.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm CreatureFramework.esm dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm DeviousFramework.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Heels Sound.esm Heretical Resources.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SGHairPackBase.esm ZazExtensionPack.esm ScocLB.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp dangerous animals - light.esp DangerousAnimals.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu2.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp immersive roads.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Slavewaymanor.esm.esp Lakeview_Extended.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Prettier Bandits.esp zdd.esp HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp OBIS.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp SexLab-Stories.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp SexyBanditCaptives.esp SexLab More Creatures.esp Immersive Weapons.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp ModWhiterun.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Populated Forts Towers Places.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp Devious Cidhna.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp tokrMixed.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp HornyCreatures.esp Brows.esp Daedric Extra Armor.esp Mannequin.esp dcc-dm2.esp Dead Body Collision.esp FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp DfwSupport.esp FadeTattoos.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp HAnimations.esp HDT Female Hairstyles.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Vivid Weathers.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp iHUD.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp SassyTeen.esp SummonAnimalPets_immersive.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SexistGuards.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabTools.esp SGHair33x144.esp SGHairMIX2.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Skysan_UltraSkimpy.esp SkyUI.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SlaveTats.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp SleepTight.esp SLPleasure.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp TavernClothes-MTM.esp Vivid Landscapes.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp XPMSE.esp Z_Underwater_Aerial_Combat.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp SexLab Strapon.esp Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp Angelicoll.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin Wives.esp DeviousToys.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp HDTSextoys.esp Simple Slavery Defeat.esp KomAnimObjects.esp nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp KomAnimScaler.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLAL_K4Anims.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp Angeli Devious Expansion.esp SexLab Inflation Framework.esp ScoclbQuestSexlab.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp Summon Horse Spells.esp Aradia Devious Expansion.esp C5Kev's Aradia Animated Living Armor.esp C5Kev's Mega Jelly Living Armor UUNP.esp C5Kev's Sexy Rose Armor UUNP.esp Sextreme-All.esp Sextreme-BND_Series.esp Sextreme_HCR.esp ZAPFurniturePlacer.esp Bandit Patrols.esp DreadPrisonAddon01.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp Populated Skyrim Civil War Patrols.esp Jaggarsfeld.esp ol3dSlAndFurn.esp tokrDreadPrison.esp TropicalIsland.esp Populated Imperials Stormcloaks Battles.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp Scent of Sex.esp Khajit_stuff.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp Neo's Selene.esp Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp oli3d-ZaZ-FurnPlacer.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp xo3dBondageFurniture.esp The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp OBISDB.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp I allso took a look at the factions in DFW, looks as follows. This is taken just after one of the now too friendly corpses approached my char for sex. Reveal hidden contents Player 14 factions Page 1/2 0x6C00d045-SOS Dialog Setup: 0 (True) 0x6c00aff8-schlongified faction: -1 (false) 0x-4-12-15-14-12-4-14-1-All friends to stop combats (SSX) 0 (True) 0x-4-12-15-12-14-11-1-11.Involved in sex scenes (SSX) -1 false 0x0807c025-SLA TimeRate: 11 (TRUE) 0x0803fc36-SLA Arousal 33 (TRUE) 0x08025B37-SLA Exposure:33 (TRUE) 0x08077f87-SLA Naked: -2 (False) 0x04031846-0x04031846: 0 (TRUE) 0x04017EBD-0x04017EBD: 0 (TRUE) 0x00000Db1-Player Faction: 0 (TRUE) 0x0009E0C9-Allegiance Faction 0 (TRUE) 0x000F2073-Player Bed: 0 (TRUE) I reloaded just befor it happened and took a look at FDW, here the duergar are stil hostile Reveal hidden contents Player 21 Factions Page 1/3 0x-4-12-15-9-14-3-2-3-0x-4-12-15-9-14-3-2-3: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-10-10-5-6-5-0x-4-12-15-10-10-5-6-5: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-110-10-6-0x-4-12-15-110-10-6: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-110-10-4-0x-4-12-15-110-10-4: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-110-10-5-0x-4-12-15-110-10-5: -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-12-14-11-1-11-Involved in Sex Scenes (SSX) : -1 (False) 0x-4-12-15-12-10-10-5-6-6-0x-4-12-15-12-10-10-5-6-6: -1 (False) 0*-4-12-15-12-14-11-1-10-NPCs where the player can ask for sex (SSX) : -1 (False) 0xC00D045-SOS Dialog Setup: 0 (TRUE) 0x6C00AFF8-Schlongified faction: -1 (False) 0c807c025-SLA Timerate: 6 (TRUE) 0x803FC36-SLA Arousal: 47 (TRUE) 0x8025837-SLA Exposure: 35 (TRUE) 0x8077F87-SLA Naked: -2 (False) 0x0A029567-Devious Devices Animating Faction: -1 (False) 0x04031846-0x04031846: 0 (TRUE) 0x04017EBD-0x04017EBD: 0 (TRUE) 0x00000Db1-Player Faction: 0 (TRUE) 0x0009E0C9-Allegiance Faction: 0 (TRUE) 0x0008F3E8-Charm Faction 0 (TRUE) 0x000F2073-Player Bed: 0 (TRUE) Unfortunateley I didn't manage to get a papyrus log since it took a little while before I noticed they were friendly. If you don't get it figured out before then I'd still like to see a papyrus log. What version of ZAP are you using? I doubt it has anything to do with your problem (but it's driving my OCD nuts). Unless you have an older version you are set up for problems. Here is a quote from T.ara (who had a hand in writing all the mods listed below - this can be found on the HSH modpage and support thread): -TUFP + ZEP is OK -ZAP 7 + TUFP + ZEP is OK (most common combination) -ZAP 8(+) is OK for gamers who don´t play mods that need ZEP (zaz extension pack) -ZAP8(+) + TUFP is NOT WORKING, combining these is not necessary and causes serious issues (ZAP8+ has everythong from TUFP and them some) -ZAP8(+) + ZEP is NOT WORKING -ZAP 8 (+) + ZEP + TUFP is NOT WORKING
Leodriz Posted February 3, 2019 Author Posted February 3, 2019 On 1/23/2019 at 8:54 PM, donttouchmethere said: Naked Dungeons.esp has a helpless feature and a defeat feature, also the helpless feature works with factions. SD+ will add you to hostile factions too depending on your master during enslavement be sure you don't hit accidently a surrender key of those? with DDe you can see and modify factions your are in. You could remove factions one by one to see what faction got you stuck with being friendly to hostiles. DFW show those factions too. do you use all those surrender and helpless features at the same time? You could also tell us what you tried already by removing mods instead of let ppl guess o.O You have a lot of mods that do the same, did you config all MCM to compensate for that? Even so, a lot of mods that change factions to calm hostiles will conflict during surrender. Or to be more precise, getting added by multiple mods to factions after surrender might create leftovers. DFW+DFWS can already create strange NPC behaviour. Same goes for NDUNs helpless feature combined with deviously helpless. On 1/26/2019 at 3:27 PM, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents If you don't get it figured out before then I'd still like to see a papyrus log. What version of ZAP are you using? I doubt it has anything to do with your problem (but it's driving my OCD nuts). Unless you have an older version you are set up for problems. Here is a quote from T.ara (who had a hand in writing all the mods listed below - this can be found on the HSH modpage and support thread): -TUFP + ZEP is OK -ZAP 7 + TUFP + ZEP is OK (most common combination) -ZAP 8(+) is OK for gamers who don´t play mods that need ZEP (zaz extension pack) -ZAP8(+) + TUFP is NOT WORKING, combining these is not necessary and causes serious issues (ZAP8+ has everythong from TUFP and them some) -ZAP8(+) + ZEP is NOT WORKING -ZAP 8 (+) + ZEP + TUFP is NOT WORKING Hi again, It seems the trick with DDe worked. From there I noticed some changes in factions from Scent of sex just when things started to go wrong. I have disabled Scent of sex and since then no enemies has suddenly turned friandly. Allso I have disabled TUFP and ZEP. I wanted TUFP because of the house close to riverwood that was provided, that is unfortunately not included in ZAP8. Now however I get CTD's whenever I try to load a game and the papyrus is absolutely cluttered with errormassages. (Papyrus logg included in post: Papyrus.0.log) I have been using Mod Organizer to enable and disable mods while trying to find the error and now things seems to have fallen appart. Do you thing there is a way to save this or is the best/only sollution to just compleately remove all mods and start from the beginning, installing them all over again?
Psalam Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 @Leodriz Do you get CTD when you try to start a new game, when you load a saved game or while playing?
Leodriz Posted February 8, 2019 Author Posted February 8, 2019 On 2/3/2019 at 11:06 AM, Psalam said: @Leodriz Do you get CTD when you try to start a new game, when you load a saved game or while playing? Only when loading a save.
Psalam Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Spoiler 2 minutes ago, Leodriz said: Only when loading a save. How long do you have to play, or put another way, what level do you have to reach (approximately) before you have this problem. For instance, if you finish Helgen and make it to Riverwood and save (while still level 1) will this problem happen with a reload of that save?
Leodriz Posted February 8, 2019 Author Posted February 8, 2019 At my last playthrough I was still level1 and had gotten as far as killing the dragon. Not sure about earlier saves. I have used Live Another Life, And the fist saves works. I have removed all mods except ENB and I'm at the moment about to install them a few at a time. (and skipping the ones I dont find necessary)
Psalam Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Spoiler 12 minutes ago, Leodriz said: At my last playthrough I was still level1 and had gotten as far as killing the dragon. Not sure about earlier saves. I have used Live Another Life, And the fist saves works. I have removed all mods except ENB and I'm at the moment about to install them a few at a time. (and skipping the ones I dont find necessary) That "skipping the ones I don't find necessary" is always a great idea and something I think about every time I try a new game/load order (since I rarely keep my load order the same for two games in a row). If your problem recurs with the new load order please make a note of when it happens and let me know.
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