MrKohlibri Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 In my current mod setup characters in Dragonsreach are not moving. I have no clue what is causing this. I tried removing mods that alter Dragonsreach but without any effect. My load order: https://pastebin.com/kcmPT8qn
Grey Cloud Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, MrKohlibri said: I tried removing mods that alter Dragonsreach but without any effect. And did you then start a new game or did you continue from a save? 4 minutes ago, MrKohlibri said: I have no clue You have at least a couple of clues. 1. It affects only Dragonreach and 2. It affects males and females. Have you tried downstairs and the jarls quarters?
MrKohlibri Posted January 19, 2019 Author Posted January 19, 2019 I only tried it on an already existing save and people downstairs are still moving.
Psalam Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 Now I'm confused (doesn't seem to be that hard to do anymore). Dragonsreach is essentially 3 very large cells. Dragonsreach proper includes the entry hall, the "throne room," the kitchen, That part of downstairs that includes an unused bedroom and the storage area for the Ebony Blade. It also includes all of Farengar's area (study, bedroom and library) and that part of the upstairs that include the balconies over the "throne room" and the area in which you meet with the Jarl during "Dragon Rising". This leads to the Great Porch (since it's "outside" I did not include it as part of Dragonsreach). There is also the "Jarl's Quarters" which include his quarters, a family dining area, his study, the children's quarters, Avenicci's quarters and, downstairs here, some servant quarters. Finally, it is also connected to the Dungeon (which is also down stairs). Which "downstairs" doesn't work and do the others work?
MrKohlibri Posted January 19, 2019 Author Posted January 19, 2019 The entire cell of the main hall doesn't work. As soon as I enter a loading screen everything is fine again. Just the part where most of the quests happen doesn't work. When I tried attacking some npcs, some moved and others didn't.
Psalam Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 Again for clarification. This means that the entryway, the throne room, all of Farengar's area, the kitchen and attached downstairs and the attached upstairs (leading out onto the porch) do NOT work. But if you go down the stairs (where you would do the Ebony Blade quest) and go through the door into the servant area (there is a load screen here), it works. Or, if you leave the throne room and enter the dungeon (another load screen) it works. Or, if you go out into Whiterun proper or onto the Great Porch (both with load screens) it works. If this is right you need to evaluate the mods that impact Dragonsreach interior. I would be happy to help with that but you need to post the text of your load order on this thread, preferably in a spoiler. If you don't know how to do that simply ask.
MrKohlibri Posted January 19, 2019 Author Posted January 19, 2019 My load order is on the pastebin link at the top of this thread. If you don't want to use that, pls tell me how to put something in a spoiler. Never did that before.
Psalam Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 Spoiler 11 hours ago, MrKohlibri said: My load order is on the pastebin link at the top of this thread. If you don't want to use that, pls tell me how to put something in a spoiler. Never did that before. I. like most of the people who help here, do not like opening files of unknown provenance, especially from third party sites. This is a simple matter of our computer security. No offense is intended (I have made this same post many times). While there are other ways to post your load order I'm going to tell you the way that I would prefer for you to do it. First, run LOOT. If you don't have LOOT (the Load Order Optimisation Tool) you should get it (this problem aside). You can find it with a simple Google search or you can click on the link in my signature to my blog and find the link their in my first post. Either way, get LOOT and run LOOT. Make certain that you correct any errors that it shows (warnings can almost always be safely ignored). Then, press the icon in the upper right hand corner on the blue bar that look like three vertical dots or buttons. When the menu appears choose "copy load order to clipboard". Now return to LoversLab (LL). When you type a post there is a bar that runs across the top of the box in which you are typing. It starts with "size" and "font". About midway across is an icon that looks like an eye (it is just to the right of the smiley face emoji icon). Press on it and you will open a spoiler like the one I started this post with. With your mouse move the cursor into the spoiler (if it is not already there) and "paste" the contents that should still be on your clipboard. Voila, you're done!
MrKohlibri Posted January 20, 2019 Author Posted January 20, 2019 Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Falskaar.esm 7 7 Wyrmstooth.esp 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 12 c Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm 13 d Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp 14 e Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 15 f BSAssets.esm 16 10 BSHeartland.esm 17 11 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm 18 12 arnima.esm 19 13 BS_DLC_patch.esp 20 14 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 22 16 hdtHighHeel.esm 23 17 ApachiiHair.esm 24 18 Gray Fox Cowl.esm 25 19 notice board.esp 26 1a HentaiPregnancy.esm 27 1b EFFCore.esm 28 1c Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 29 1d ZaZAnimationPack.esm 30 1e daymoyl.esm 31 1f MolagBalsInferno.esm 32 20 Cutting Room Floor.esp 33 21 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 34 22 Distinct Skyrim Landscapes.esp 35 23 SkyUI.esp 36 24 UIExtensions.esp 37 25 Extended UI.esp 38 26 Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp 39 27 Real Roads.esp 40 28 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 41 29 mintylightningmod.esp 42 2a WondersofWeather.esp 43 2b Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp Rigmor.esp 44 2c The Forts of Skyrim-Rebuilt.esp 45 2d LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp 46 2e Avitus weapons-armor.esp 47 2f GirlHeavyArmor.esp 48 30 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp 49 31 Realistic HD Beverages.esp 50 32 Skysan_Icicle.esp 51 33 RaceMenu.esp 52 34 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 53 35 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 54 36 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 55 37 Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp 56 38 FNIS.esp 57 39 ORM-Arvak.esp 58 3a BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 59 3b BSHeartland - Textures.esp 60 3c AOS.esp 61 3d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 62 3e DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 63 3f lordship.esp 64 40 Skyrim HD Tribute - Roads.esp 65 41 Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp 66 42 JKs Skyrim.esp 67 43 3DNPC.esp 68 44 Rebirth Monster.esp 69 45 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 70 46 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 71 47 HDT Havok Object.esp 72 48 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 73 49 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 74 4a Book Covers Skyrim.esp 75 4b SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 76 4c UG2Redux.esp 77 4d Obsidian Mountain Fogs For LE.esp 78 4e Forgotten DungeonsAll.esp 79 4f Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 80 50 Here There Be Monsters.esp 81 51 Here There Be Monsters - Call of Cthulhu.esp 82 52 BlackthornManor.esp 83 53 Helgen Reborn.esp 84 54 Treeswinedave.esp 85 55 Dilon Vul.esp 86 56 Unique Shops and Stores.esp 87 57 Weathered Road Signs.esp 88 58 BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp 89 59 OpulentThievesGuild.esp 90 5a SLO_StoneWalls.esp 91 5b SexLab_Solutions.esp 92 5c AKSkyrimUnderground.esp 93 5d Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 94 5e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 95 5f SnowFall Weathers.esp 96 60 Vivid Weathers.esp 97 61 Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp 98 62 TrueStorms.esp 99 63 Vivid Weathers - Bruma.esp 100 64 Vivid Weathers - Falskaar.esp 101 65 Vivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.esp 102 66 Vivid Weathers - Wyrmstooth.esp 103 67 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 104 68 Undeath.esp 105 69 MoreNastyCritters.esp 106 6a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 107 6b Immersive Weapons.esp 108 6c Better Harvesting.esp 109 6d UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp 110 6e DaedraHuntress.esp 111 6f Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 112 70 Beards.esp 113 71 DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp 114 72 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp 115 73 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 116 74 AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp 117 75 SOSRaceMenu.esp 118 76 XPMSE.esp 119 77 Brows.esp 120 78 Eyes of Aber.esp 121 79 KS Hairdo's.esp 122 7a VioLens.esp 123 7b NibblesAnimObjects.esp 124 7c SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 125 7d animal_mansion.esp 126 7e HentaiCreatures.esp 127 7f ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp 128 80 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp 129 81 Clockwork.esp 130 82 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 131 83 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 132 84 SkyrimSewers.esp 133 85 The Brotherhood of Old.esp 134 86 Immersive Encounters.esp 135 87 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 136 88 Atlas Legendary.esp 137 89 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 138 8a Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp 139 8b Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp 140 8c fallentreebridges.esp 141 8d HammetDungeons.esp 142 8e SFO - Dragonborn.esp 143 8f MonstersReborn.esp 144 90 SimpleSlavery.esp 145 91 Solsthdungeonpack.esp 146 92 Tame Beast.esp 147 93 Atlas Legendary OCS.esp 148 94 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 149 95 SofiaFollower.esp 150 96 BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1.esp 151 97 Men of Winter.esp 152 98 Men of Winter - Compatibility Patch.esp 153 99 Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp 154 9a Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp 155 9b Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 156 9c Better Vampires.esp 157 9d Vigilant.esp 158 9e DibellasRecruit.esp 159 9f SexLab_Dialogues.esp 160 a0 FarmhouseChimneys.esp 161 a1 FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp 162 a2 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp 163 a3 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 164 a4 Skysan_ENBHorseTrough.esp 165 a5 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp 166 a6 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 167 a7 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 168 a8 CaranthirTowerReborn.esp 169 a9 RiftenMural.esp 170 aa HornyCreatures.esp 171 ab Serana.esp 172 ac More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp 173 ad Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 174 ae DeadlyDragons.esp 175 af DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp 176 b0 AOS2_DD Patch.esp 177 b1 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 178 b2 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 179 b3 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 180 b4 adcSexlife.esp 181 b5 HPSoulGemBirth.esp 182 b6 SexLabDefeat.esp 183 b7 SLAnimLoader.esp 184 b8 EFFDialogue.esp 185 b9 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 186 ba FNIS_PCEA2.esp 187 bb SexlabArousalEnhancement.esp 188 bc SLAdventures.esp 189 bd HelmetToggle.esp 190 be Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics TS.esp 191 bf Vivid Weathers - AOS patch.esp 192 c0 Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp 193 c1 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp 194 c2 SoS_AOS2_Patch.esp 195 c3 SoS_VividWeathers_Patch.esp 196 c4 Glacier NLVA - AOS.esp 197 c5 Dark Fantasy Weather Systems AoS.esp 198 c6 Dark Fantasy Weather Systems.esp 199 c7 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp 200 c8 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 201 c9 AnubAnimObj.esp 202 ca PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp 203 cb FISS.esp 204 cc AMatterOfTime.esp 205 cd WM_WidgetMod.esp 206 ce BVandSacrosanct_Patch.esp 207 cf DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 208 d0 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 209 d1 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 210 d2 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 211 d3 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp 212 d4 ForgottenCity.esp 213 d5 FarmhouseChimneysWyrmstooth.esp 214 d6 Darkend.esp 215 d7 Here There Be Monsters - Curse of Cipactli.esp 216 d8 SpousesEnhanced.esp 217 d9 EmbersHD.esp 218 da The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 219 db SignTown_by_YURIL_1o5.esp 220 dc UTHERINSPIREDJUDGEMENT.esp 221 dd MHdunSky001.esp 222 de SexLabAnimalSex.esp 223 df FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp 224 e0 Ravengate.esp 225 e1 MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp 226 e2 FarmhouseChimneysMaS.esp 227 e3 Gray Fox Cowl - Alternative Start.esp 228 e4 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 229 e5 FireBurns.esp 230 e6 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp 231 e7 JaxonzUtilities.esp 232 e8 SexLabAnimalSexDawn.esp 233 e9 SexLabAnimalSexTame.esp 234 ea Vigilant Voiced.esp 235 eb iHUD.esp 236 ec SLFurn.esp 237 ed Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp 238 ee ClearWater_for_ENB_RWT.esp 239 ef RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp 240 f0 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 241 f1 RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp 242 f2 RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp 243 f3 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 244 f4 HornyDeadlyDragons.esp 245 f5 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 246 f6 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 247 f7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 248 f8 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 249 f9 DBM_RelicHunter.esp 250 fa FarmhouseChimneysLAL.esp 251 fb ELE_Legendary_Fs_Wt_Lite.esp Thanks for the nice explanation. This is not exactly the same load order as on Pastebin because I changed some minor things, but I still have the same problems.
Psalam Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 Spoiler 2 hours ago, MrKohlibri said: Hide contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Falskaar.esm 7 7 Wyrmstooth.esp 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 12 c Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm 13 d Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp 14 e Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 15 f BSAssets.esm 16 10 BSHeartland.esm 17 11 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm 18 12 arnima.esm 19 13 BS_DLC_patch.esp 20 14 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 22 16 hdtHighHeel.esm 23 17 ApachiiHair.esm 24 18 Gray Fox Cowl.esm 25 19 notice board.esp 26 1a HentaiPregnancy.esm 27 1b EFFCore.esm 28 1c Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 29 1d ZaZAnimationPack.esm 30 1e daymoyl.esm 31 1f MolagBalsInferno.esm 32 20 Cutting Room Floor.esp 33 21 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 34 22 Distinct Skyrim Landscapes.esp 35 23 SkyUI.esp 36 24 UIExtensions.esp 37 25 Extended UI.esp 38 26 Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp 39 27 Real Roads.esp 40 28 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 41 29 mintylightningmod.esp 42 2a WondersofWeather.esp 43 2b Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp Rigmor.esp 44 2c The Forts of Skyrim-Rebuilt.esp 45 2d LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp 46 2e Avitus weapons-armor.esp 47 2f GirlHeavyArmor.esp 48 30 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp 49 31 Realistic HD Beverages.esp 50 32 Skysan_Icicle.esp 51 33 RaceMenu.esp 52 34 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 53 35 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 54 36 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 55 37 Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp 56 38 FNIS.esp 57 39 ORM-Arvak.esp 58 3a BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 59 3b BSHeartland - Textures.esp 60 3c AOS.esp 61 3d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 62 3e DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 63 3f lordship.esp 64 40 Skyrim HD Tribute - Roads.esp 65 41 Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp 66 42 JKs Skyrim.esp 67 43 3DNPC.esp 68 44 Rebirth Monster.esp 69 45 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 70 46 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 71 47 HDT Havok Object.esp 72 48 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 73 49 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 74 4a Book Covers Skyrim.esp 75 4b SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 76 4c UG2Redux.esp 77 4d Obsidian Mountain Fogs For LE.esp 78 4e Forgotten DungeonsAll.esp 79 4f Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 80 50 Here There Be Monsters.esp 81 51 Here There Be Monsters - Call of Cthulhu.esp 82 52 BlackthornManor.esp 83 53 Helgen Reborn.esp 84 54 Treeswinedave.esp 85 55 Dilon Vul.esp 86 56 Unique Shops and Stores.esp 87 57 Weathered Road Signs.esp 88 58 BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp 89 59 OpulentThievesGuild.esp 90 5a SLO_StoneWalls.esp 91 5b SexLab_Solutions.esp 92 5c AKSkyrimUnderground.esp 93 5d Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 94 5e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 95 5f SnowFall Weathers.esp 96 60 Vivid Weathers.esp 97 61 Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp 98 62 TrueStorms.esp 99 63 Vivid Weathers - Bruma.esp 100 64 Vivid Weathers - Falskaar.esp 101 65 Vivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.esp 102 66 Vivid Weathers - Wyrmstooth.esp 103 67 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 104 68 Undeath.esp 105 69 MoreNastyCritters.esp 106 6a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 107 6b Immersive Weapons.esp 108 6c Better Harvesting.esp 109 6d UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp 110 6e DaedraHuntress.esp 111 6f Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 112 70 Beards.esp 113 71 DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp 114 72 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp 115 73 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 116 74 AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp 117 75 SOSRaceMenu.esp 118 76 XPMSE.esp 119 77 Brows.esp 120 78 Eyes of Aber.esp 121 79 KS Hairdo's.esp 122 7a VioLens.esp 123 7b NibblesAnimObjects.esp 124 7c SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 125 7d animal_mansion.esp 126 7e HentaiCreatures.esp 127 7f ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp 128 80 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp 129 81 Clockwork.esp 130 82 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 131 83 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 132 84 SkyrimSewers.esp 133 85 The Brotherhood of Old.esp 134 86 Immersive Encounters.esp 135 87 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 136 88 Atlas Legendary.esp 137 89 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 138 8a Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp 139 8b Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp 140 8c fallentreebridges.esp 141 8d HammetDungeons.esp 142 8e SFO - Dragonborn.esp 143 8f MonstersReborn.esp 144 90 SimpleSlavery.esp 145 91 Solsthdungeonpack.esp 146 92 Tame Beast.esp 147 93 Atlas Legendary OCS.esp 148 94 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 149 95 SofiaFollower.esp 150 96 BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1.esp 151 97 Men of Winter.esp 152 98 Men of Winter - Compatibility Patch.esp 153 99 Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp 154 9a Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp 155 9b Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 156 9c Better Vampires.esp 157 9d Vigilant.esp 158 9e DibellasRecruit.esp 159 9f SexLab_Dialogues.esp 160 a0 FarmhouseChimneys.esp 161 a1 FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp 162 a2 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp 163 a3 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 164 a4 Skysan_ENBHorseTrough.esp 165 a5 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp 166 a6 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 167 a7 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 168 a8 CaranthirTowerReborn.esp 169 a9 RiftenMural.esp 170 aa HornyCreatures.esp 171 ab Serana.esp 172 ac More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp 173 ad Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 174 ae DeadlyDragons.esp 175 af DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp 176 b0 AOS2_DD Patch.esp 177 b1 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 178 b2 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 179 b3 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 180 b4 adcSexlife.esp 181 b5 HPSoulGemBirth.esp 182 b6 SexLabDefeat.esp 183 b7 SLAnimLoader.esp 184 b8 EFFDialogue.esp 185 b9 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 186 ba FNIS_PCEA2.esp 187 bb SexlabArousalEnhancement.esp 188 bc SLAdventures.esp 189 bd HelmetToggle.esp 190 be Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics TS.esp 191 bf Vivid Weathers - AOS patch.esp 192 c0 Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp 193 c1 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp 194 c2 SoS_AOS2_Patch.esp 195 c3 SoS_VividWeathers_Patch.esp 196 c4 Glacier NLVA - AOS.esp 197 c5 Dark Fantasy Weather Systems AoS.esp 198 c6 Dark Fantasy Weather Systems.esp 199 c7 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp 200 c8 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 201 c9 AnubAnimObj.esp 202 ca PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp 203 cb FISS.esp 204 cc AMatterOfTime.esp 205 cd WM_WidgetMod.esp 206 ce BVandSacrosanct_Patch.esp 207 cf DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 208 d0 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 209 d1 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 210 d2 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 211 d3 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp 212 d4 ForgottenCity.esp 213 d5 FarmhouseChimneysWyrmstooth.esp 214 d6 Darkend.esp 215 d7 Here There Be Monsters - Curse of Cipactli.esp 216 d8 SpousesEnhanced.esp 217 d9 EmbersHD.esp 218 da The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 219 db SignTown_by_YURIL_1o5.esp 220 dc UTHERINSPIREDJUDGEMENT.esp 221 dd MHdunSky001.esp 222 de SexLabAnimalSex.esp 223 df FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp 224 e0 Ravengate.esp 225 e1 MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp 226 e2 FarmhouseChimneysMaS.esp 227 e3 Gray Fox Cowl - Alternative Start.esp 228 e4 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 229 e5 FireBurns.esp 230 e6 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp 231 e7 JaxonzUtilities.esp 232 e8 SexLabAnimalSexDawn.esp 233 e9 SexLabAnimalSexTame.esp 234 ea Vigilant Voiced.esp 235 eb iHUD.esp 236 ec SLFurn.esp 237 ed Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp 238 ee ClearWater_for_ENB_RWT.esp 239 ef RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp 240 f0 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 241 f1 RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp 242 f2 RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp 243 f3 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 244 f4 HornyDeadlyDragons.esp 245 f5 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 246 f6 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 247 f7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 248 f8 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 249 f9 DBM_RelicHunter.esp 250 fa FarmhouseChimneysLAL.esp 251 fb ELE_Legendary_Fs_Wt_Lite.esp Thanks for the nice explanation. This is not exactly the same load order as on Pastebin because I changed some minor things, but I still have the same problems. You're welcome. As always I'll take my "tips" in likes (that is the green thumbs-up button in the bottom right hand corner of a post. It is grayed out until you scroll over it.) By the way, you can also like a mod that you've enjoyed or would recommend to someone else (at least here on LL) by going to the post where you can download the mod and "liking" it. Back to the matter. The only mod I can see that might be prone to causing your issue is Inconsequential NPCs. You may want to disable it (and it's related mods) and try again with a new game. If that doesn't work try getting a papyrus log while you're in Dragonsreach. Like LOOT you can find how to do this with a Google search or you can go back to my blog. I have a post specifically dedicated to papyrus logging.
MrKohlibri Posted January 20, 2019 Author Posted January 20, 2019 Sadly that wasn't the issue. I tried it on my current save, a save which had the mod loaded but was still in the LAL room and on an entirely new save. One of my mods also changes Farengars room, so that there is a staircase which leads a second floor, which ich can't really reach because the roof is too low. Also, there is an invisible table I can walk through. I just don't know which mod is doing that because it's neither JK's Skrim nor Palaces and Castles Enhanced and I don't remember installing another mod which could change the room that I have installed.
Psalam Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 Unfortunately, you are now at the brute force approach stage. What you do here is disable ten or so mods, start a new game, use the console to go to Dragonsreach and see if your problem is resolved. If not, pick another ten or so and repeat until you've fixed your issue. When it does go away add the mods back, on at a time, from that last group of ten until it comes back so that you can identify the offender. Once you've done that, disable that mod, reenable all the other mods and try it again just to be sure that the single mod was the culprit.
MrKohlibri Posted January 29, 2019 Author Posted January 29, 2019 After dodging the task of disabling and testing my mods (for more than a week) I randomly found a mod which was only compatible with another mod if you deactivate a part which was altered by those two mods. This led me to check which mods alter Dragonsreach with TES5Edit. I tested only those mods and found the culprit. Apparently, it was a mod with the UTHERINSPIREDJUDGEMENT.esp. Only knowing it's an armor mod I'm very confused. At least I now only have to find the one which fucks up Farengars room. Sadly I didn't find it yet.
MrKohlibri Posted January 29, 2019 Author Posted January 29, 2019 The problem with Farengars room being fucked up was caused by unique shops and stores which partially overwrote another mod which caused multiple objects being stuck within one another. Thanks for helping me find solutions for my issues.
Psalam Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 Spoiler 1 hour ago, MrKohlibri said: The problem with Farengars room being fucked up was caused by unique shops and stores which partially overwrote another mod which caused multiple objects being stuck within one another. Thanks for helping me find solutions for my issues. Hey, good detective work yourself. That being said, I'll take my "tips" in likes. That the green thumbs up button that can be found in the bottom right hand corner of any post that you didn't write yourself. It's grayed out until you scroll over it and click it. By the way, here on LL you can also "like" mods. If you find one you like and would recommend to someone else go back to the page from which you downloaded it. Then go to the bottom right hand corner of that "post" and "like" the mod. If the mod has a long explanation it might take a while to get to the bottom but you'll get there. We all do.
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