tallal Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 OK done most of the text changes for your comments, need to grab a pic of DF cave and think about contents page might be done by tommorow night but comming down with a cold so may be sat afternoon. Link to comment
Dilbert Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I hope this doesn't sabotage TallAl's work too much. I picked through Grumpf's comments and sorted a few things out. We're getting closer, but it isn't quite there yet. I think at this point the change mode might be doing almost as much harm as good. I suggest all format changes are executed outside of change mode or within and are accepted immediately by whoever does them. The odts are just too confusing with the formatting changes marked. For text changes, either use change mode or simply highlight the area in question with a yellow background. That should be easier to work with than change mode, which tends to be broken down into too many individual changes. CLS_walkthrough_34D.7z Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Perfect, thanks guys. I'm going to clean the doc from everything. I will just leave remarks if absolutely necessary. Cheers! PS: While waiting, if you want to start thinking about some things you want in the manual we can start to collect thoughts again. First we'll need to check the installation instructions again as with any luck file formats won't change. But more later... Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Voila! Tallal, you're turn Link to comment
tallal Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Argghh 2nd time google has "this is a ... site " and broken my post... Changes merged. see http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Black_Soul_Gem for actual behavoir of empty/not GS gems. one note changed to a hint, the other notes are a bit more important than hints so think they should remain Will look at DF cave pic and Contents page but this won;t be changing the doc till post 12GMT tommrow so will look in and see if either of you have done any changes then before making the actual changes file has a small improve for on pic,drop in pics dir (better not perfect), CLS_walkthrough_36T.7z Link to comment
tallal Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Here is the map of DF I've put together. I'll Look into the contents page tommrow and put it and the pic togther then, Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Voila. I added the 3 different colors precision in Kristina's last speech so the player has to actually insist to learn that. Removed all remarks and did a bit of formating. The only I couldn't do is reformat the table of contents and that's not even that important so unless you can do it easily that's good enough to me... I added a map for dark fissure, it's non standard so it could be good if it was looking like all the others, but again, no biggie. So left are: maybe some punctuation I missed, sometimes LO just format a line like a retard, so the sentence looks like they have a lot of space between words. I think a simple carriage return fixes it but I didn't dare making too many as you porbably use letter and I use A4. Voila, so I think v38 should probably be good enough to stop! Thqnks guysm it's a nice document! Link to comment
tallal Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 OK I'll check through I wanted to move the DF location pic to before the DF cave map as it scaned a bit odd with the map where your comment indicated. I'll have a try of contets page formats this morning, map ? non-standard its "taller" than the other maps but its a sceern cap mozaic so other than is shows all of DF its the same, or am I missing somthing Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I meant the map I added is not as nice as the ones you did so it'll be better if you redo it. On the other hand, it's not that important. Cheers! Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 All right! Now I got it, didn't see your previous post with the map! Discard previous message, looks good Link to comment
tallal Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 OK that make sence now Here is a re-format pic of the contents in a "common" style. does it match your idea. This does work OK with PDF as all the contents itmes are links Been a useful task as found some sections of text with "wrong" styles. Nipping out for shopping now be back at lunch time (GMT). Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Perfect! Is there a way to extend the background to the whole page and avoid white borders? It'll also be cool to export all our docs to eBook format, just to be sooooo perfectly geeky... You need avatars guys by the way! Link to comment
tallal Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 Arrghhh google strikes again... Done the margin added comments some pageination tydy DF cave add3ed (get the pic from a few posts back and put in /pic dir) and moved DF location pic. The pdf is now >7M so will post it via acom or whhereve if its ok now ... CLS_walkthrough_38T.7z Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Did I give you the access to the Adrive with the CLS stuff? If not, PM me and I'll give you L&P Link to comment
tallal Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 Have acont on adrive so when you post the OK I'll dump the pdf there and put link up her. will look into e=book mean while., Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Great! I guess we're back on installation instructions now! 10 days before Xmas, gonna start teasers! Link to comment
tallal Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 OK think you have the latest copy of the inst manual, no changes since it was last posted. e-book, we can do it there is a o-source prog "calibre" that will convert to epub format. donl't know that its worh it as according to wiki appart from the kindle-1 all the viewers suport pdf format. And conver to e-pub its 45M (yes 45) while the pdf is only 7! Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 All right. Then fire up the pdf, I'll check on my ebook reader what it looks like! Link to comment
tallal Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 OK pdf uploaded its on http://www.adrive.com/public/ZcQrZQ/CLS_walkthrough_38T.pdf the ebook convert may be better direct form odt -> epub or mobi but to do that we need to change the pics from via a link to embeded as the converter does not seem to import link pictures correctly Link to comment
tallal Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 using the Edit-Link "break" on a copy of the cls wlk odt I embeded the pic's in doc convertion the epub and mobi formats then gives files sizes of 27M and 7.8M so mobi is ~ same as pdf epub is big... If pdf renders OK on your reder (I don;t have one) then we should stick to it as the wiki site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_readers indicates only two readers that don;t do pdf (and one of them is the old kindle 1.0). Link to comment
Dilbert Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I had a quick look at the pdf. We're very close, but there are still a few things which I'm not completely happy with. Towards the beginning there are a number of pages with a big picture and very little text on them. In most of those cases formatting the picture to be a little smaller would allow it to be more compact and just as easy to read. I know we don't have to kill trees in this case, but still there is no good reason to waste space. Which is not to say that everything has to be crammed together, only that almost empty pages don't look good. The table with the likes and dislikes of the cows has a double line in it while all the rest are single lines. This should be fixed, unless it is intentional, in which case it should be explained. If time allows, I'll go through it one more time. I can probably get to it tomorrow, Monday at the latest. I'll focus on the language and this time around only make changes required for reasons of language. In terms of content I think we're there. TallAl, if you agree about the wasted space and can do something about it, you can work on that while I'm going through it one last time. Link to comment
tallal Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'll give it another pass to get the pagenation better Update: Fixed the table double wide lines and center the text in it better. Found a couple of pic that had align to top margin and so reduce some of the half page + blanks two or three I think. I post pdf tommorow morning, to give grumpf a final chance at comments. I think that will have to be it... CLS_walkthrough_39T.7z Link to comment
tallal Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 OK put the latest pdf's on http://www.adrive.com/public/AY8KHk/CLS Documents for Gold Manual.7z The has the install as well, check that with your copy of the odt as can't remember if last sync put us in step for the install pic's etc the main dif's are the file install names. WLK diff from last is a few more top of page tidy's and a bad kerned paragraph CLS_walkthrough_40T.7z Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Thanks guys! Let me check that. Link to comment
Grumpf Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 And... Yet another answer to your preceding post right at the moment you post a new one It's nearly 10am here! Trying last one then! Cheers! Link to comment
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