Load Issues - CTD Every Time - SOLVED!

[C5Kev]

14 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Only at weekends . . . Doh!

 

Oh you sexy thang!  ?

[C5Kev]

What the Hell?  These shots are from a just downloaded vanilla start.  Cart in front was tipping onto it's side, horses stretching like spazzy HDT boobs, etc.

 

 

Below, the horse is facing backward...  ???   What's going on here?   BTW, I just DL'ed NVidia drivers, so that's not the issue.

 

 

 

 

[GenioMaestro]

11 minutes ago, C5Kev said:

What the Hell?  These shots are from a just downloaded vanilla start.  Cart in front was tipping onto it's side, horses stretching like spazzy HDT boobs, etc.

 

Below, the horse is facing backward...  ???   What's going on here?   BTW, I just DL'ed NVidia drivers, so that's not the issue.

Can not be.... Those things can not happend in a vanilla game.

Are you installing the game in a empy folder???

Are you totally sure you not have trash from others installations???

Are you starting the game with TESV.exe???

 

The only way to have these problems is to use SKSE + HdtPhysicsExtensions + bad skeleton, imo, of course.

[marmotte]

Hi Kev,

 

Use Alternate Start - Live Another Life to avoid this bug.

or you can use this carriage mesh replacement to remove the bug https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46703

 

Your game is totally vanilla?

[C5Kev]

2 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

Can not be.... Those things can not happend in a vanilla game.

Are you installing the game in a empy folder???

Are you totally sure you not have trash from others installations???

Are you starting the game with TESV.exe???

 

The only way to have these problems is to use SKSE + HdtPhysicsExtensions + bad skeleton, imo, of course.

 

Yes, yes. yes and yes.  I did a "restore" on my driver settings and that fixed that problem.  Made it to Helgen now and about to meet Alduin.   Lord, I've forgotten how crappy vanilla really was.

 

[C5Kev]

2 minutes ago, marmotte said:

Hi Kev,

 

Use Alternate Start - Live Another Life to avoid this bug.

or you can use this carriage mesh replacement to remove the bug https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46703

 

Your game is totally vanilla?

Problem solved. Did a "restore" (to game factory specs) on my driver.  Man, is vanilla horrible!  Get rid of Diana and try it out! ?

 

[C5Kev]

All I can say is, "Thank God for modders and their mods!"

 

why is notification sound working all of a sudden - or is that just me?

[GenioMaestro]

2 minutes ago, C5Kev said:

 

Yes, yes. yes and yes.  I did a "restore" on my driver settings and that fixed that problem.  Made it to Helgen now and about to meet Alduin.   Lord, I've forgotten how crappy vanilla really was.

 

Well, at least some work in Win10.... driver restore.... good to know...

 

And i presume you have try save and LOAD your savegame... if not... please... test it...

[marmotte]

The vanilla experience is ........unique after a modded Skyrim.

This grey/greeny grainy blurry touch has a unique flavor

[marmotte]

seriously, if you have bugs on a vanilla, i believe that you should redo a new one. cleaner.

[C5Kev]

Just now, marmotte said:

seriously, if you have bugs on a vanilla, i believe that you should redo a new one. cleaner.

I had just DL'ed it ( again - #7 ).  Been having a load of problems - loading saves, etc.  I wonder if that driver thing could have been the culprit?

[marmotte]

you mean nvidia driver?

[C5Kev]

1 minute ago, marmotte said:

you mean nvidia driver?

 

Yep.

 

8 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

Well, at least some work in Win10.... driver restore.... good to know...

 

And i presume you have try save and LOAD your savegame... if not... please... test it...

 

Maybe that was the main problem? I could see how it could fuck things up, but wow!   Reload of saved game  = 5 of 5.   Man, I reload stuff again and I can't load saves, I'm going to post my address so all you guys can come over and just shoot my ass.

 

[C5Kev]

Be glad you guys don't have to look at this...my eyes are burning.   Level up?  i just started!  LOL!

 

 

[C5Kev]

I'm really starting to think that driver issue was the prob.  Win 10 update, then new driver = disaster?   Wouldn't have ever guessed that one.  I believe Win 10 changed to their driver sys file and / or also fucked with my driver & settings.  I thought I read somewhere that Win 10 updates can revert to a "generic" driver scenerio.   Bastards!   I prolly didn't need to do ANY of this shit I've been going through.  Just "restore" my driver 3D settings to game factory specs, then turn off AA, etc., for ENB and continue on.  Good Grief!

 

On to install some mods and get have retinal replacement surgery.

 

[GenioMaestro]

27 minutes ago, C5Kev said:

Maybe that was the main problem? I could see how it could fuck things up, but wow!   Reload of saved game  = 5 of 5.   Man, I reload stuff again and I can't load saves, I'm going to post my address so all you guys can come over and just shoot my ass.

 

Again CTD in load??? In a pure vanilla game without garbage ???

It can not be ... I cry a lot .. really ...

 

The only option I see is to install SKSE and enable WriteMiniDumps = 1 in SKSE.ini

That generates a dump file in Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE\Crashdumps

Upload the dump file to http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=Analyze for guidance on where is problem.

Obviously you have something wrong with the machine, they can be video controllers, directx, c++ libraries...

 

Upload the file here if you do not know how understand the OSR dump information. I do it for you. 

[C5Kev]

14 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

Again CTD in load??? In a pure vanilla game without garbage ???

It can not be ... I cry a lot .. really ...

 

The only option I see is to install SKSE and enable WriteMiniDumps = 1 in SKSE.ini

That generates a dump file in Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE\Crashdumps

Upload the dump file to http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=Analyze for guidance on where is problem.

Obviously you have something wrong with the machine, they can be video controllers, directx, c++ libraries...

 

Upload the file here if you do not know how understand the OSR dump information. I do it for you. 

 

No, no, you misunderstand  LOL!   I was successful loading a save game 5 of 5 times.  Actually 7 of 7 times now.  So maybe things might be resolved?  Gunna start loading mods up and we shall see.  This doesn't surprise me that all this seems to be related to those damned Win 10 updates I got.  My problem may not apply to everyone, but it's good to know as you said.

 

 

[GenioMaestro]

2 minutes ago, C5Kev said:

No, no, you misunderstand  LOL!   I was successful loading a save game 5 of 5 times.  Actually 7 of 7 times now.  So maybe things might be resolved?  Gunna start loading mods up and we shall see.  This doesn't surprise me that all this seems to be related to those damned Win 10 updates I got.  My problem may not apply to everyone, but it's good to know as you said.

 

Uff... well... it's a relief... I can sleep tonight...

And yes, that seems. A video controller installed by the automatic updates has broken your game and has given you many problems.

I recommend you putting the Windows Update configuration in "Download, but let me decide when and what to install"

[C5Kev]

1 minute ago, GenioMaestro said:

 

Uff... well... it's a relief... I can sleep tonight...

And yes, that seems. A video controller installed by the automatic updates has broken your game and has given you many problems.

I recommend you putting the Windows Update configuration in "Download, but let me decide when and what to install"

 

Can't do that with Win 10.  Isn't that nice?

 

[GenioMaestro]

14 minutes ago, C5Kev said:

Can't do that with Win 10.  Isn't that nice?

Sorry but that is not true.

A simple search in google like "stop windows update win 10" or some similar give you a lot of pages explaining how make it. I not have Win10 but see tools for make it automatically. Of course, is NOT recomended but based in your personal experience i'm sure you go for it.

Then, let me recomend you the best option is use the registry option because have the normal OLD functionality of alert you when new updates are availables.

[C5Kev]

Arrgghh. OK, what would cause a CTD when trying to move a UUNP slider in RaceMenu? 

[GenioMaestro]

5 minutes ago, C5Kev said:

Arrgghh. OK, what would cause a CTD when trying to move a UUNP slider in RaceMenu? 

Crash fixes

 

Common issues:

UseOSAllocators=1 and crashing when touching sliders in character creation or otherwise.
Set AlignHeapAllocate=1 in CrashFixPlugin.ini, downside is increased load time and increased memory usage.

UseOSAllocators=1 and crashing on game startup or loading save or shortly after.
Set ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false in enblocal.ini

Game says message box "running out of memory" and crashes.
Set ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true in enblocal.ini

Ground textures flickering weird.
Set ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false in enblocal.ini
 

[C5Kev]

3 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

Crash fixes

 

Common issues:

UseOSAllocators=1 and crashing when touching sliders in character creation or otherwise.
Set AlignHeapAllocate=1 in CrashFixPlugin.ini, downside is increased load time and increased memory usage.

UseOSAllocators=1 and crashing on game startup or loading save or shortly after.
Set ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false in enblocal.ini

Game says message box "running out of memory" and crashes.
Set ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true in enblocal.ini

Ground textures flickering weird.
Set ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false in enblocal.ini
 

 

Sorry, shoulda searched before I posted. I already got it GM, thanks!

 

 

[C5Kev]

1 hour ago, GenioMaestro said:

Crash fixes

 

Common issues:
 

 

Dude, I think my problems might have been solved now, "knock on wood".  I have `50 active mods and all seems to be going OK after setting the AlignHeapAllocate=1 in Crash Fixes. Obviously I must have done that in the past, but forgotten about it.  I don't know if any of this "experience" is worthy of a "Sticky", but man, what an ordeal this was. 

 

To recap after Win 10 update (actually I think I got 2), I DL'ed the June 2010 DirectX 9 "stuff" that had been suggested somewhere, updated NVidia drivers, then pressed the "restore" (to factory game defaults) in the 3D settings of NVidia's Control Panel for TES5 and then the Crash Fix thing (which might be just for my case based on my rig).

 

- My main initial symptoms after Win 10 update - Game simply would not start - at all.  New driver install seemed to sorta fix some aspect of that, but not until I "restored" driver did it straighten out. You saw the weird vanilla start pics above. Then the save issue came into play, which might have been caused solely by the AlignHeapAllocate thing.  I didn't discover that until the RaceMenu slider finding.

 

If this is, in fact, "fixed", I can't begin to tell you, Psalam and Grey Cloud how much I appreciate the time and effort you guys spent to get me up and going again. I don't want to 'jinx" myself here, but I really do appreciate your efforts.  Do you still play?  Or do you just lurk in the Tech area of the site to help people?

 

[GenioMaestro]

45 minutes ago, C5Kev said:

I think my problems might have been solved now

It's good to know that your game is stable again.

Install all your mod's, slowly of course, and check that everything is fine. I guess you're missing the second part, the CK, and it can give you some more problems, but everything is to install it, see if it works and solve the problems that it gives you.

 

I do not think your CTD problem when reading the savegame was by AlignHeapAllocate, you can deactivate it and try it, but I think it was caused by a problem in the video driver.

Technically it is a bit difficult to explain how AlignHeapAllocate works, but basically it works at the memory block level to align and join them in larger blocks in directions of 8, 16, 24 and 32 bits and solves some problems when a module requests a large block of memory, something that RaceMenu does when a slider moves because it has to calculate many things and it needs a lot of memory.

 

I support because technically I can, I am a IT professional and I have worked in almost all areas, from assembly of computers to programming in c ++, through servers, communications, databases .. everything you can think of.

I focus on helping the creators of mod's because if we have all the mod's we have, it's thanks to you. I have published one or the other, but nothing similar to yours, the 3d design surpasses me but I suppose that you are surpassed by programming. It's logical, nobody can know everything.

 

And yes, I still play because Skyrim is wonderful and even in 2018 new and bigger mod's are published. For a long time I did not play a full round and I am in the same game for more than 2 months doing all the missions of the base game and dlc's plus all the missions of my mods. You know how many missions are, a lot, and playing almost every day for 2 months, I'm still on it. I have recorded the game 1480 times and the savegame has grown from 10mb to 26.5mb and my game is still stable.