Sims 4 with WickedWhims vs. Sims 3 with KinkyWorld + other mods.

[AltRightUnicorn]

Base on my experiences and preferences I prefer Wicked Woohoo. You can easily uninstall it without worrying about your game being corrupted or having glitches left over. I also prefer Nrass over MCC  in comparison. I remember getting corrupted saves and glitches even without mods. I shouldn't have to put mod in my game to avoid issues like this. 

[TentacleBandit]

HHHMmmm I think you can't compare the two tbh because Sims 3 is so vastly different then Sims 4 as The Sims 2 is to the Sims 1.  All of which have featured some form of sex mod and on the surface they might seem the same (all sims) but each is uniquely different. Yes? Yes!

[TentacleBandit]

Thinking back and looking back its actually kind of amazing how much support the Sims 2 still has with the community.  I remember having so much CC for it....oh those were the days.  Back when I was running a Final Fantasy brothel ahahahahah.

[Timmy!]

Kinkyworld because ww avoids plausible features like rape as if it is the plague. I don’t like political correctness in games.

[vroom90]

I prefer kinkyworld because he has more options(rape, school, ecc.. ) than wickedwhims.

[Satyrthegreat]

Sims 3 with Kinky World, no contest at all..

While it can be laggy and have slow loading times there are just way more options and intricacies to the Sims 3 and prob always will be. I can customize body types in far greater detail with the Sims 3 (waist height slider, penis length and width sliders, etc) I haven't found this to be possible in S4.

 

Also Sims 4 some recent updates to Wicked Whims have ruined it for me unfortunately.

Sims sexual satisfaction based on relationship level, mood, hygiene, energy, traits, skills, moodlets and situation. This is simply retarded in my opinion. This basically takes the control of sexual satisfaction away and bases it on a bunch of nonsense, it should be skill and traits, isn't that some part of what makes sex so hot, some people just have it and others don't, its nature and nature can be cruel. relationship based sexual satisfaction is just wishful thinking, in a perfect world but fuck you've ruined sim sex for me WW.

The cartoony art of S4 is also kinda dull to me, I still prefer S3 art with a little modding it can be pretty damn sexy.

 

[Rikerbabe]

I've played Sims 3 with Kinky World and had lagging up the wazoo....I then finally turned to Sims 4 and yes, there is limited building and such BUT Wicked Whims makes up (to me) for that!  I only play 4 with WW and love it...There are a few things I would like to see with WW (and will share that with it's creator), WW makes Sims 4 good, but not quite like the freedom of building in Sims 3. Perhaps IF there is a Sims 5, they can take 3 & 4 and build a hybrid of the two games with everything that we all love. (I know that's a long shot, but HELL...ya gotta start somewhere!)

 

[MrGrey]

I agree. Kinky world makes the game unplayable. I got really p.o.ed when I found that if I made world with CAW with KW installed, that world would be hosed without KW.

that said, KW had a lot of great ideas. As base games go, Sims 3 is way better than Sims 4.

WW makes the difference. Other folk make interesting add ons, I think the Pornography career add on is a good idea but I can't get it to work (I think the june 19th update broke it). Basemental drugs? All I used wast the 15,000 simolian cocaine package in my Clone machine, so I made a lump of clay cost 10,000 simolians, called it "Supernovium" and replaced that mod. Never wanted to be a drug dealer.

Nisa's wicked perversions is an interesting mod - I tried to play with the Easter Hare trait... okay, but no way to make a living. The pheromone thing was over powering. The slave deal was interesting but it got so tiresome to bang all the slaves every other day to keep them enslaved.

 

[Amandajoy48]

I like both wickedwhims and kinky world but to me kinky world is harder to understand to download to me anyways...To me Sims 3 wasn't that laggy,lot of it had to do with your settings you had in the game!

[DesertDancer]

I didn't play Sims 3 and kinky world too much. For once the game is really unstable and two, it is an opinion I am apparently not allowed to have now but I find Sims 3 sims in generally dull. Even with full autonomy on or tell them to do something, it would take forever with them just standing or staring. It is my least favorite sims game; but to each their own, NRAAs did nothing for me as the problems exist with the game itself and ridiculous you even need that to get a game to some what function properly.

 

As for features, it seems that wicked whims is catching up and it a much stable game and mod overall.

 

[ljacquard]

On 9/30/2019 at 1:54 AM, DesertDancer said:

I am apparently not allowed

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For one, NRaas and OKW don't mix well together. Forget about it, it's either one or the other.

 

They both intervene at core level, where the common player has no means to check what these mods do, why they do it and maybe prioritise one over the other for some features, to avoid conflicts. Some people might contest this, since it *seems* to be working for them, but that's only because their more robust OS obfuscates the most glaring errors or them not knowing where to look. I wouldn't be surprised if your "standing around Sims" issues didn't also find their origin in this incompatibility. My TS3 Sims interact fine and in timely fashion, much more often and pertinently than any of my TS4 ones would in any case.

 

I would recommend using "Passion" instead, which is more stable, less buggy, 100% functional, with all the same animations and does exactly what it advertises. The best part is that it works fine hand in hand with the vast majority of NRaas modules. OKW should die already, it's a thing of the past.

 

Next, since you seem to have some self-worth issues, I'm going to reassure you : everyone has the right to have an opinion, especially here on the LL forums. Mine is that TS4 is one of the most boring games I've ever played, and certainly the worst of "The Sims" series. Every Sims plays out like the next one. If you had interaction lag in TS3, let me tell you about the one happening to me in TS4, playing Foosball, bowling, showering, eating, to name only a few (and yes, this is with Coolspear's/the updated Simmythesim's "fixes" in the Overrides folder). Every single action takes way too fucking long, washing hands, cleaning, repairing stuff that constantly breaks all over the place. Without MCCC, the game is basically unplayable because of this.

 

Plus, every TS4 Sims feels soulless, which particularly stands out while partying, dancing or even just socializing. Once you've met one of them, you've met them all. There are no crazy or silly ones, despite assigning them the proper traits, no funny or mischievous ones, no one with some kind of backbone or personality, since most just prefer doing "basic chat" with you, staring at their phone for hours or sitting in front of your home computer doing God knows what. Should I also mention the ceaseless phone calls in the middle of the night (3AM) of some strangers commenting about you becoming friends with someone else ? Or when you get invited to a restaurant, and then sit there for ages waiting for your meal, and then still have to pay for it ? Maybe rules of "being invited" are not the same in RL than in MaxisLand ?

 

With WW, this is amplified, since I cannot enter a single lot without 2 Sims going at it in the crapper, which was funny to watch... the first time. It's especially bad when your date calls you to head out together for whatever place, and when you arrive, she suddenly disappears to start fucking with a stranger, leaving you standing there completely dumbfounded. Traits don't matter, orientation doesn't matter, Heavens forbid your Sim actually gets to screw someone she *autonomously* actually enjoys being with for other reasons than you clicking on the Woohoo button.

 

In TS3, I could start practising the guitar as a teen, jam in a park, meet other like-minded people, set up a gig at a local waterhole to earn some pocket money, head to the university to hone my skills and then embrace a full-fledged musician career. At each stage of my Sim's life experiences were different, varied and interesting to play out. She had friends, but also lovers that she had to really "work" for, and even enemies that she did not necessarily chose. I could have an impromptu and totally unplanned picnic with some friends on some isolated island discovered after biking, swim over there without loading screen, fool around, watch the sunset and then return home under the stars. These are unforgettable memories, none of which I so far had in TS4.

 

In TS4, my teen looks exactly like my adult, from day one. She wears the same clothes, has the same routines and has been friends with the whole town (charisma 10) before the end of the first week. Most females in her entourage are heterosexual, yet they ALL keep flirting with her, and ready to divorce and move out at the first request. Aliens and vampires can be spotted from miles away, and have the most laughable and cringe-worthy behaviour for occult members. Spell casters are all around the place, since everyone and their dog can become a master magician overnight just doing a simple fetch quest. Lots are so limited and small that you get a loading screen just crossing the street to greet your neighbour.

 

As I said, everyone can have their opinion, and that should be respected. TS4 is probably a "good" game and a better game compared to TS3 if you rate graphics over gameplay. Still, I prefer TS3 graphics which have less of those stupid ever-smiling cartoonish faces. TS3 does indeed have serious performance issues, leading to the dreaded "Error 12", and perhaps inferior graphics, but with some common sense, preparation, quality mods and a good machine you can largely overcome these. At least the game doesn't feel so hollow and totally random to me. Just avoid OKW like the pest, properly configure NRaas to your liking, be sensible about your mods, watch memory consumption of the TS3 process, save/reload before it reaches 3.5 Go, and everyone should be able to have a good time.

[DesertDancer]

10 hours ago, ljacquard said:

 

For one, NRaas and OKW don't mix well together. Forget about it, it's either one or the other.

 

They both intervene at core level, where the common player has no means to check what these mods do, why they do it and maybe prioritise one over the other for some features, to avoid conflicts. Some people might contest this, since it *seems* to be working for them, but that's only because their more robust OS obfuscates the most glaring errors or them not knowing where to look. I wouldn't be surprised if your "standing around Sims" issues didn't also find their origin in this incompatibility. My TS3 Sims interact fine and in timely fashion, much more often and pertinently than any of my TS4 ones would in any case.

 

I would recommend using "Passion" instead, which is more stable, less buggy, 100% functional, with all the same animations and does exactly what it advertises. The best part is that it works fine hand in hand with the vast majority of NRaas modules. OKW should die already, it's a thing of the past.

 

Next, since you seem to have some self-worth issues, I'm going to reassure you : everyone has the right to have an opinion, especially here on the LL forums. Mine is that TS4 is one of the most boring games I've ever played, and certainly the worst of "The Sims" series. Every Sims plays out like the next one. If you had interaction lag in TS3, let me tell you about the one happening to me in TS4, playing Foosball, bowling, showering, eating, to name only a few (and yes, this is with Coolspear's/the updated Simmythesim's "fixes" in the Overrides folder). Every single action takes way too fucking long, washing hands, cleaning, repairing stuff that constantly breaks all over the place. Without MCCC, the game is basically unplayable because of this.

 

Plus, every TS4 Sims feels soulless, which particularly stands out while partying, dancing or even just socializing. Once you've met one of them, you've met them all. There are no crazy or silly ones, despite assigning them the proper traits, no funny or mischievous ones, no one with some kind of backbone or personality, since most just prefer doing "basic chat" with you, staring at their phone for hours or sitting in front of your home computer doing God knows what. Should I also mention the ceaseless phone calls in the middle of the night (3AM) of some strangers commenting about you becoming friends with someone else ? Or when you get invited to a restaurant, and then sit there for ages waiting for your meal, and then still have to pay for it ? Maybe rules of "being invited" are not the same in RL than in MaxisLand ?

 

With WW, this is amplified, since I cannot enter a single lot without 2 Sims going at it in the crapper, which was funny to watch... the first time. It's especially bad when your date calls you to head out together for whatever place, and when you arrive, she suddenly disappears to start fucking with a stranger, leaving you standing there completely dumbfounded. Traits don't matter, orientation doesn't matter, Heavens forbid your Sim actually gets to screw someone she *autonomously* actually enjoys being with for other reasons than you clicking on the Woohoo button.

 

In TS3, I could start practising the guitar as a teen, jam in a park, meet other like-minded people, set up a gig at a local waterhole to earn some pocket money, head to the university to hone my skills and then embrace a full-fledged musician career. At each stage of my Sim's life experiences were different, varied and interesting to play out. She had friends, but also lovers that she had to really "work" for, and even enemies that she did not necessarily chose. I could have an impromptu and totally unplanned picnic with some friends on some isolated island discovered after biking, swim over there without loading screen, fool around, watch the sunset and then return home under the stars. These are unforgettable memories, none of which I so far had in TS4.

 

In TS4, my teen looks exactly like my adult, from day one. She wears the same clothes, has the same routines and has been friends with the whole town (charisma 10) before the end of the first week. Most females in her entourage are heterosexual, yet they ALL keep flirting with her, and ready to divorce and move out at the first request. Aliens and vampires can be spotted from miles away, and have the most laughable and cringe-worthy behaviour for occult members. Spell casters are all around the place, since everyone and their dog can become a master magician overnight just doing a simple fetch quest. Lots are so limited and small that you get a loading screen just crossing the street to greet your neighbour.

 

As I said, everyone can have their opinion, and that should be respected. TS4 is probably a "good" game and a better game compared to TS3 if you rate graphics over gameplay. Still, I prefer TS3 graphics which have less of those stupid ever-smiling cartoonish faces. TS3 does indeed have serious performance issues, leading to the dreaded "Error 12", and perhaps inferior graphics, but with some common sense, preparation, quality mods and a good machine you can largely overcome these. At least the game doesn't feel so hollow and totally random to me. Just avoid OKW like the pest, properly configure NRaas to your liking, be sensible about your mods, watch memory consumption of the TS3 process, save/reload before it reaches 3.5 Go, and everyone should be able to have a good time.

Realistically young adults aren't too different from teens really. Depending on where you live, 18 is considered an young adult and still in their teens technically. The only real difference is they can legally do things that other teens can't-smoke (not that it matters in sims unless there is a mod for it, same with porn and all that). In game, attitudes are a bit different and you can ground the younger teens, so there is an actual difference. Sure the game can add a bit more to all life groups; but I feel people make it a bigger than it is.

 

And no, I don't have self worth issues. Not only is that not relevant; but also just jumping to conclusions. I meant I gotten attacked and  even often gotten warnings (close to being banned at this point) on the official site forum just for sharing my less than positive opinions on Sims 3. That is what I meant. That is more of a problem with the community, not self worth. Personally I think it was a horrible game, no mods can fix it and have the dullest sims. It was a downgrade of sims 2. But that is my personal opinion based of playing it. So I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

 

Heights are tricky as not everyone is the same high and some kids and teens are really tall, taller than some adults. To only make that work would be to have sliders. Sims 2 had the scratch skeleton cheat but not without some risks and issues to the game. 

 

I disagree with sims 4 feel soulless, especially compared to sims 3 sims who just seemed so stiff and stared blankly for a long time (personally, it wasn't fun which was the biggest let down). I guess most of this is just a matter of opinions. I think the cartoon style works with Sims as it wasn't meant to be completely realistic; but a parody on life (you can live with ghosts, bring the dead back to life, play with vampires, etc...things you can't do in real life, that is the fun of sims. If it was just chores and real life, many people including myself wouldn't play it as we have all that in real life and lets face it, people don't enjoy doing chores and all that; it is just something that has to be done).

 

Most of my sims don't even go to parties and clubs. That doesn't have to do with the game, that has to do with the player's choices. It takes awhile to build skills, fulfill aspirations and make money so that takes up a lot more time than partying, not that it matters as they can't even get drunk without mods now and can just dance at home without dealing with loading screens. I only have sims go to clubs to meet new sims really. 

 

I do agree people is allowed to have their own opinion. We all have different ideas for what we want in Sims. I personally want them to go back to the roots and bring all the wackiness back. Even sims 1 was a big risque for it's time. People want too much realism and I feel they are watering the games down since Sims 3.