[FIXED] Default Races invisible bodies

[FoxLotus]

Default races male an female have invisible Bodies, but floating head/hands/feet/Schlong.  (Argonian and Khajit unaffected) 

*edit*  I should inject that this issue is only affecting default player races.  NPCs are unaffected.

 

 

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163 a3     Bosmer Armor Pack - Jenassa Fix.esp
164 a4     Merta Assassin Armor.esp
165 a5     Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
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178 b2     LoksEyes.esp
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182 b6     SexLabSquirtR.esp
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185 b9     WetFunction.esp
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203 cb     SOSRaceMenu.esp
204 cc     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
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206 ce     My Home Is Your Home.esp
207 cf     LustmordVampireArmor.esp
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209 d1     BladesBikini.esp
210 d2     Neo's Selene.esp
211 d3     Lady Arkay.esp
212 d4     Insanity's Sorrow.esp
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214 d6     BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
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231 e7     kaz doa_nyo_suit_1.esp
232 e8     Zhumoyi.esp
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250 fa     Vivid Snow Physical.esp
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An yes I'm aware I've no bashed patches.  The last 2 times I made a go to making one it more or less screwed my mod build, forcing me to re-add my esp's to the build one by one.  An I just finished fixing the last time it did that, which may still be a probable cause to this current issue.  What steps should I approach to testing the culprit?

[Seijin8]

The meshes are probably missing.  Are you using NMM?

[FoxLotus]

I'm using Mod Organizer. 

 

[Psalam]

Which of the many NPC Overhauls is the one that you are using? It is not that I know anything about it (or I wouldn't ask) but at first glance it appears to be the only mod in your load order that might affect men and mer without impacting the beast races.

[Grey Cloud]

Where to begin?

Bashed patches are the least of your worries.

You are operating near the 254 plug-in limit.

You have any number of mods whaich are adding a load of content to your game.

You have several cases of two or more mods doing the same thing.

I'm impressed that the game runs at all.

 

37 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

The meshes are probably missing.  Are you using NMM?

The meshes are probably there but they can't load in until a week next Tuesday. ?

[FoxLotus]

252 mods to be exact.  Which mods would be doing the same thing?  Previous to this last rebuild I had no issues with invisible bodies, but when I ran wryebash I had to rebuild by adding back the .esp's individually to each folder in MO.

Game runs at 60+ frames, no FNIS conflicts.  

Which mods do you suggest are dual purposing?  An I can disable/remove them.
 

[Thunderstriken]

I got the same problem, yet having around 20 mods. I'm not sure how that can be resolved. basically when the characters get naked, their bodies become invisible and stick in one another, literally.

[Seijin8]

1 hour ago, Thunderstriken said:

I got the same problem, yet having around 20 mods. I'm not sure how that can be resolved. basically when the characters get naked, their bodies become invisible and stick in one another, literally.

Are you using "nude suits" in Sexlab?

[yatol]

10 hours ago, Seijin8 said:

The meshes are probably missing.  Are you using NMM?

 

10 hours ago, XZero said:

Default races male an female have invisible Bodies, but floating head/hands/feet/Schlong.  (Argonian and Khajit unaffected) 

 

argonian it's the nord mesh with another texture....

floating heads?

that can be conflict between save and load order (kill some obis bandit, from obis esp not edits of skyrim esm bandit, save, reload without obis, surprise)

that can be an armor that have sbp 32 in its armor addon (give sbp 31 to armor malehands, all males become bald)

or something else

 

to figure out what it is, you open the console and go take a look at the npc inventory

 

 

 

[Thunderstriken]

10 hours ago, Seijin8 said:

Are you using "nude suits" in Sexlab?

I think there was tick on it.  Does that cause it ?

[Seijin8]

11 hours ago, Thunderstriken said:

I think there was tick on it.  Does that cause it ?

Untick it and start a scene.  See what happens.

[FoxLotus]

17 hours ago, yatol said:

 

argonian it's the nord mesh with another texture....

floating heads?

that can be conflict between save and load order (kill some obis bandit, from obis esp not edits of skyrim esm bandit, save, reload without obis, surprise)

that can be an armor that have sbp 32 in its armor addon (give sbp 31 to armor malehands, all males become bald)

or something else

 

to figure out what it is, you open the console and go take a look at the npc inventory

 

 

 

Hmm, NPCs are unaffected by this.  It is only affecting player race.  Argonian an Khajit are working, no issues, it is all other default race choices.  

[FoxLotus]

On 11/14/2018 at 2:35 PM, Grey Cloud said:

Where to begin?

Bashed patches are the least of your worries.

You are operating near the 254 plug-in limit.

You have any number of mods whaich are adding a load of content to your game.

You have several cases of two or more mods doing the same thing.

I'm impressed that the game runs at all.

 

The meshes are probably there but they can't load in until a week next Tuesday. ?

I have no issue with the game loading, or rendering anything.  On occasion the game does CTD, but no more than what would be expected from a heavily modded build given the limitations of the games core engine issues.

Many are patched to work with other mods in conjunction.  But do digress to which mods you are saying do the same thing so I can address that.  

 

[Grey Cloud]

6 hours ago, XZero said:

But do digress to which mods you are saying do the same thing so I can address that. 

They are your mods you look through them, I've got better things to do.

[worik]

On 11/16/2018 at 12:41 AM, Seijin8 said:

On 11/15/2018 at 12:42 PM, Thunderstriken said:

I think there was tick on it.  Does that cause it ?

Untick it and start a scene.  See what happens.

.. and regarding the "sticking together" ... where it would help a lot if you would post a screenshot, so everybody can see what you mean by that.

 

But since I was born with a bit of fantasy, now I fantasize what it might look like.

 

And the thing that I see in my visions is an indicator that

• you might be talking about a started SexLab scene? Right?
• and if that is true =>  it signals that either the started animation is broken, or
• SexLab is still running with the setup of this scene and tries to position the actors .. and has not finished, yet
• ... and if THAT ^^ goes on for minutes without it doing anything else => it indicates further problems with your setup

 

But since your description is vague at best and you didn't post a screenshot and you didn't tell the circumstances (like: when, where, how and what did you do ... etc ...), I might be totally wrong at all.

In that case you can safely ignore my fantasies.

 

[FoxLotus]

11 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

They are your mods you look through them, I've got better things to do.

All mods I've added are either complimentary to work in conjunction with each other.  Many are patches to work with either audio overhauls, lighting, or AI functionality.  Some are stacked to increase AI difficulty without having to bloat scale their health, I've 3-4 combat AI mods, 2 addressing NPCs, the other 2 for creatures specifically.  OBIS an Kidnapping redux while providing very similar experiences, one only works for faction NPCs, the other works for both NPC factions and creatures.  I use it for creatures.  

But since you have better things to do, despite replying to this thread initially.  Please don't respond, I've asked for technical help an you provided none other than to comment as you have.  To which leaves me to ponder the tone of your response overall. 

Thank you.  An have a pleasant day.

[Grey Cloud]

I don't do any of the four or five things I said you do and I am not the one who is looking for help with a broken game. Perhaps there is a connection. All those points I made are valid and relate to the technical aspects of modding Skyrim.

Some of the cities have three mods altering them. How much weather can you fit into a day and how much of it can you see at night? And the scripts that will be running, ye gods, the scripts.

On ‎11‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 10:53 PM, XZero said:

Game runs at 60+ frames, no FNIS conflicts.

60 plus frames? My arse. What refresh rate is your monitor set to? FNIS does not show 'conflicts'.

48 minutes ago, XZero said:

All mods I've added are either complimentary to work in conjunction with each other.  Many are patches to work with either audio overhauls, lighting, or AI functionality.  Some are stacked to increase AI difficulty without having to bloat scale their health, I've 3-4 combat AI mods, 2 addressing NPCs, the other 2 for creatures specifically.  OBIS an Kidnapping redux while providing very similar experiences, one only works for faction NPCs, the other works for both NPC factions and creatures.  I use it for creatures.

That is basically a combination of poor English, waffle and nonsense.

[Thunderstriken]

On 11/16/2018 at 1:41 AM, Seijin8 said:

Untick it and start a scene.  See what happens.

Tried that, still the bodies just stack over each other or don't appear at all :/

[Psalam]

Spoiler

8 hours ago, Thunderstriken said:

Tried that, still the bodies just stack over each other or don't appear at all

 

 

Post a screen shot, your load order and tell us what body type you use and whether you have bodyslide and know how to use it.

[donttouchmethere]

On 11/14/2018 at 10:43 PM, XZero said:

I should inject that this issue is only affecting default player races. 

just a guess based on my experiances:

> some follower mods overwrite parts or everything of the default PC race (some modders even give a warning that they overwrote for example breton race, so you have to choose another), this shows in bugged skin textures, body hand/feet missmatch, missing head sculpture ...

> some NPC overhauls overwrite the default PC race, you get some odd body bugs with that

> sometimes only the first PC preset  is overwritten, choosing another preset or loading your own preset might slove the issue

 

sometimes it can be rescued with the right load order (followers above all NPC replacers)

with my dangerous half-knowledge I just delet mods that effect the player race (especially if there is no explanation/warning on the mod page)

[Thunderstriken]

13 hours ago, Psalam said:

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Post a screen shot, your load order and tell us what body type you use and whether you have bodyslide and know how to use it.

I'm not sure about the body type, nor where I can check the load order, I have installed some bodyslide, but I do not know how to use it. 

P.S.  According to the game the pictures below are supposed to be doggy style.

[Grey Cloud]

31 minutes ago, Thunderstriken said:

I'm not sure about the body type, nor where I can check the load order, I have installed some bodyslide, but I do not know how to use it. 

P.S.  According to the game the pictures below are supposed to be doggy style.

 

That's an animation issue and nothing like what the OP is describing.

[FoxLotus]

This is what I see when in showracemenu at creation start, I hit done.
Then go to 3rd person view.


Go to equipment an disrobe, then screen 2 happens. 

I switch to 1st person view point an image 3 renders as such.

If I equip prisoner clothes then remove quickly while in 3rd person it shows full nude body torso, legs but hands are missing.  If I switch viewpoints after this from 3rd to 1st an back to 3rd person, then I get the invisible torso/legs from screen 2.

[FoxLotus]

semi-FIXED - Found the the culprit  - Immersive First Person View - Sexlab edition mod.  Still not sure how to correct the issue may simply be moving the left panel MO order to a higher spot.  Disabled no longer getting any missing parts and swapping from 3rd to 1st person view shows up as normal, no missing parts.

[FoxLotus]

FIXED - Moving the IFPV sexlab non-plugin mod to a lower / earlier spot in my left panel list.  Has corrected the issue completely.