AmaryllisThorne Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 Haven't played Oblivion in over a year, and decided to install it and most of the mods I used (not all) on my new computer. After I was finished, I launched the game through Steam, and did the first time setup stuff. I made sure to copy the .ini file from the My Games folder as well, and imported the load order, to try and be sure that everything would work right. And, as made obvious by the title of this, it did not work right at all. I forgot how much of a pain in the ass modding Oblivion was the first time around... Anyway, as stated, the game crashes on launch. Here's my current load order. Spoiler Oblivion.esm Toaster Says Share v3.esm Lovers with PK.esm DLCHorseArmor Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCfrostcrag.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp Knights.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp Sexdarkness.esp Nephs Unique Thievery.esp Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Advanced Magecraft.esp Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp Creature Diversity.esp Creature Diversity Arachnophobia Patch.esp Dahyka's Vanilla Racial and Birthsign Tweaksv2.2.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp InstantMagicEffects.esp BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp Enhanced Grabbing.esp Slof's Boners! v5.esp Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp AddActorValues_example.esp Realists Kvatch Attack.esp Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp Consequences_Vile.esp Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp Consequences_Knights.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp MannimarcoRevisited.esp Consequences.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Vampire Revolution.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp DLCFrostcrag Vwalk .esp Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk .esp Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp Whispered Warning.esp Dynamic Door Knocking.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp RMDailyIncomeV2.esp See You Sleep DLL.esp See You Sleep DLL - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversBed.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversPayBandit.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp RingofMara.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCalm.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp EVE_KhajiitFix.esp EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp Knights Vwalk UOP.esp DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp DLCOrrery Vwalk .esp DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp Thievery_Normal_Thrill.esp
fejeena Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 Can you post your load order ? .... Hope that is a list of your mods , not your load order. Hope you have not installed Lovers Mods with Nexus Modmanager ! It will not work . First run BOSS ( never use LOOT ) Then manually sort ALL Mods BOSS have not sorted. And sort your Lovers Mods manually. You have OBSE, Pluggy, ...? You start your game with OBSE ? ( Steam version the Oblivion exe, no Steam version the OBSE_loader.exe ) After adding many new Mods or change many Mods in the load order always start a new game. Do not use a old save. Read my yellow Link below.
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 2, 2018 Author Posted November 2, 2018 19 hours ago, fejeena said: Can you post your load order ? .... Hope that is a list of your mods , not your load order. Hope you have not installed Lovers Mods with Nexus Modmanager ! It will not work . First run BOSS ( never use LOOT ) Then manually sort ALL Mods BOSS have not sorted. And sort your Lovers Mods manually. You have OBSE, Pluggy, ...? You start your game with OBSE ? ( Steam version the Oblivion exe, no Steam version the OBSE_loader.exe ) After adding many new Mods or change many Mods in the load order always start a new game. Do not use a old save. Read my yellow Link below. 11 That actually is my current load order. I ran BOSS, but it confused me a bit, and didn't seem to point out anything wrong other than claiming some of the mods needed to be hit with TES4Edit. Do I need to manually put them in the order BOSS lists them? As for OBSE and Pluggy, yes, I have them. As for old saves, I'm not using the saves from my old computer. I had planned on starting fresh, just using most of the same mods.
gregathit Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 You have some mods that are not compatible with the latest version of Lovers, the LAPF: Sexdarkness.esp - not compatible with the LAPF. Inferior animations as well. Slof's Boners! v5.esp - not needed as the boners won't work right with the new animations and are included in the LAPF These MUST be at the bottom of your load order: LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp You have this patch installed, but above the file it is patching: LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp Could be why you are crashing. Move any patch file just below the mod it is supposed to patch. Lovers mods have a recommended load order: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ Check the readme.txt to see if you were only supposed to install one of these: Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp Get rid of this: Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp You can leave the esm file, but delete this as it is a freaking mess that will destabilize your game.
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 2, 2018 Author Posted November 2, 2018 So Sexdarkness is a no-go? Damn, that one was one of my favorites, even if it was pretty silly overall. Know any others that add a similar kind of experience? Something that might be important to note, I don't think I have the latest version of LAPF. I copied almost all of the archives for my mods from my old computer instead of browsing for them. As for Toaster Says Share, if the .esp is bad, might as well get rid of the master too. Again, I haven't run the game once successfully on this computer, and I'm not using any of the old saves either. I'd like to have as stable an experience as possible while still having plenty of fun with my mods. And thanks for pointing out the load order suggestion. I'd missed it when I went over that yesterday. As for Duke Patricks... yeah, I should've done a bit of reading. A text file that came with it recommends using the NIF removed version. Went and adjusted my load order, with some help from BOSS. Considering that half of the stuff here was moved around entirely on its own, I have to assume BOSS shifted the load order automatically when I ran it before Spoiler Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp AddActorValues_example.esp See You Sleep DLL.esp See You Sleep DLL - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp Dynamic Door Knocking.esp Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery Vwalk .esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Immersive Weapons.esp StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp Creature Diversity.esp Creature Diversity Arachnophobia Patch.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk .esp Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp Whispered Warning.esp 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCfrostcrag.esp BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp DLCFrostcrag Vwalk .esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights Vwalk UOP.esp EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp Consequences.esp Consequences_Knights.esp Consequences_Vile.esp MannimarcoRevisited.esp EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp Nephs Unique Thievery.esp RMDailyIncomeV2.esp LoversCalm.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversBed.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp Vampire Revolution.esp Advanced Magecraft.esp InstantMagicEffects.esp Thievery_Normal_Thrill.esp Enhanced Grabbing.esp Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp EVE_KhajiitFix.esp Dahyka's Vanilla Racial and Birthsign Tweaksv2.2.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp Realists Kvatch Attack.esp RingofMara.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
fejeena Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 BOSS does not know all Mods. But after you run BOSS it tells you that it was not able to sort some Mods and put the Mods at the end of the load order. That Mods you must sort manually. And your load order is not sorted with BOSS !!! Example: DLCShiveringIsle.esp is to low in your load order, BOSS do not put is so low. It is one of the first esp after the esm. And Knights.esp is the last DLC ....but you have some DLCs after it. EDIT: all in you old load order. the new load order looks good. ----------------- And if BOSS tells you to clean a Mod, you can clean it with TES4Edit. ( read my yellow Link) But BOSS put them in the right order. --------------------- All unsorted Mods and all Lovers Mods you must sort manually. ( read my yellow Link and the Link gregathit posted ) Then you can test with TES4Edit if you have missing master files or Mods in wrong order ( master file below the plugin file ) You start TES4Edit with all your Mod and if it stop loading and tell you missing file or file x must loaded before file y you correct your load order. If TES4Edit loads all your Mods without a error message you should be able to start your game without CTD. ---------------------------- Sexdarkness.esp If it is a old version you can use it. I use sexlivion. But there in a new version at Nexus that will not work with Lovers. But when you play sexdarkness you must set LoversHookers Approaches to OFF. Lovers does not recognizes sexdarkness sex, so while you have sex NPCs will ask your for LoversHooker sex....that will break the sexdarkness animation and you must load a old save to fix it.
fejeena Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Your CTD !! You don't have LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp Why you have LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp ??? it is a patch to use LoversHooker.esp and LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp ( in both Mods are prostitution dialogues ) LoversImmoralGuards.esp Do you have my No-MBP version ? If not you have missing Master file: Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm and many MBP esp And have you sorted your Lovers Mods manually ? In both Link with example load order LoversMB2.esp is lower in load order. --------------------------- A good companion system. And compatible with Lovers. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/1569-mad-companionship-spells-mcs-extension-humantouchnpc/ You can make any NPC your companion. You only need Mad Companionship Spells 2.5 and MCS Extension 1.15 You don't need human touch.
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 2, 2018 Author Posted November 2, 2018 I got the version of Sexdarkness I'm using from Nexus. I'll go ahead and assume that I should turn it off or remove it. It's not too big a deal. Don't really want to go in with TES4Edit though... All of the mods on the list worked fine on my old computer, so I don't think I'll need to make any changes to them. Might just need to remove a few more and make sure I've got all the files that I need. Edit: Oh crap, you're right. Somehow I've got a patch for a mod I don't even have downloaded. Must have missed a few files when I was swapping everything over. As for the Beautiful people and so forth, never used it before, so I think I'm good on the Immoral Guards. Idk what version I have of it though. And yes, I manually sorted the Lovers mods, as best I could. Didn't notice MB2 needed to go lower, though.
fejeena Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Install LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp and LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp . Then you can use the LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp If you don't want to install 10+ MBP Mods you should install my No-MBP Immoral gurads version. And use Mad Companionship instead of Toaster Says Share .
fejeena Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Oh, I see https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/202-lovers-immoral-guards/ MBP is no longer needed ( shit I did the No MBP version and do not even remember it ) But if you want my old version ( one with male and one with female guards ) https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/265-no-mbp-lovers-immoral-guards-101g-1/
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 2, 2018 Author Posted November 2, 2018 Alrighty, downloaded the LAPF supplemental pack. Think I'll skip the Mad Companion thing for now. With any luck, once I get this in, I'll be able to actually reach the title screen.
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 2, 2018 Author Posted November 2, 2018 And fixed! Thanks for the help. Willing to bet the one I had the patch for without the actual mod was the major issue.
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 2, 2018 Author Posted November 2, 2018 Aaaaaaand now there are a few new issues I'm seeing because of course there are. I've gotten to the character creation no problem, but... well, this happens. Something's being stupid in regards either to the character creation or the mesh bodies, and of course, the textures aren't placed properly on some of the heads Spoiler Spoiler I'm just going to sit here and cringe for a bit...
fejeena Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 The first pic...don't kow. The second pic. The wrong texture for the head mesh. Have you installed a head textures replacer ? There should be a readme that tells you what head mesh you need. ! But if you change the Head nif in data\meshes\charcters\imperial it will affect all vanilla human races and the elfs and many Mod races use the head nif. If all other races are OK you should change the textures of the "wrong" races. Spoiler Vanilla and Ren head nif with the right texture ( a better vanilla texture) And another head nif with the vanilla textures. You see it does not fit. The UV map is totally different ( the gid)
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 2, 2018 Author Posted November 2, 2018 I'm probably just going to back up a bit and do a clean install. I probably fucked up somewhere along the way with my mods that affect the body meshes and textures. To list those mods, I've got HGEC body 1.21 Robert's Male Body Replacer v5 EVE HGEC Body Selector and Stock Equipment Replacer Vanilla Race Deluxe 5.1 There was likely just some conflict I caused between them by not knowing what I was doing. Still, going to do the clean install just to be safe. Going to start over with the mods, but now I know what I need and what to ignore... mostly.
fejeena Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 HGEC body 1.21 and Robert's Male Body Replacer v5 both use the vanilla head textures. You know in Oblivion male and female use the same head texture. Best you unpack both Mods and repack the Mod. Check the head texture and choose the one that fits better to the body texture ( If you play more felemales you use the head teture from HGEC body 1.21 , when you play more males your take the head textures from Robert's Male . And delete the old skeleton in the HGEC Mod ! You will use the LAPF skeleton. EVE ? don't know if there are head textures in the Mod. Unpack the Mod and delete all you don't need. Bodies and textures you have, you only need the armor clothes for the hemales. So you you delete all body meshes, skeleton ( you will use the LAPF skeleton ) Vanilla Race Deluxe 5.1 I don't know the Mod. If you want to use it and it have textures for male and female you should not install the texturres from HGEC body 1.21 and Robert's Male Body Replacer v5. Install only the HGEC and Roberts body meshes. Or install Vanilla Race Deluxe 5.1 after the above Mods and let it overwrite. And first you unpack it and check if it have all textures for all vanilla races. And if it change the head mesh. With a new head mesh the Mod MUST have head textures for all races or the Mod in useless. ( Orcs, khajiit, argonian use own head meshes and in many relacer Mods there are not changed. But all humans, elfs , Golden Saint , DarkSeducer and dremora use the head in the imperial folder. ) !!! Remember that there are Golden Saint and DarkSeducer . There are no female body textures in the HGEC body 1.21 Mod !! ( and no dremora? ) Check if there are HGEC textures for both races in the Vanilla Race Deluxe 5.1 . See my yellow Link, there is a Link for HGEC Textues with all vanilla races, But for vanilla Head mesh. If Vanilla Race Deluxe 5.1 replace the head mershes with a no-vanilla version you must find another textures replacer if there are missing head textures in the Vanilla Race Deluxe 5.1 ------------------- EDIT: I always unpack Mods. OMods Mods with installer, zip, rar,.... Then I check what is in the Mod, does it overwrite /conflict with vanilla files or other Mod files. Idelete all I don't need. I don't need a install menu ( HGEC body 1.21 and Robert's Male Body Replacer ) , The install menu will install one body, so I put the body I want in the right folders, and the textures and esp. Then I delete all Folders I don't need ( readme, pictures, Variants and replacers ) Then I create a OMod ( so I must do the sorting and cleaning never again. The next Oblivion installation I use my old OMod )
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 3, 2018 Author Posted November 3, 2018 Alrighty. Thanks for the tips. I'm going ahead and making a backup of the Data folder just in case something goes wrong again. How to go about making an OMod, though? That would be pretty useful. And are you saying I should unpack my OMods as well, to make sure I grab only what I need?
fejeena Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 I unpack all Mods. Omods. Mods with installer exe,.... OMods with install menu , like HGEC body 1.21 and Robert's Male Body Replacer v5 ofter do not give warnings when they owerrite files you have . And they install one body, so why not unpack and put the body you want in the right folder. ------------------------------------ If you have a OMod and you want unpack it use Oblivion or TESModmanager ( the numbers in the description, see the screenshot below ) You put the OMod in the OMod folder ( If you have not change the path it is Oblivion\obmm\mods Then start the Modmanager In the right window you see all your OMods, and you will see your new OMod. (1) Right click it and click "Extract to folder", choose a empty folder. (2) If you have a Mod with a bsa file ( a esp and a packed files ) you can unpack the bsa with the Mod manager. Start OblivionMM . At the right you click the "Utilities" button (3) and then "bsa browser" (4) . In the new window you search your unpack folder and select the bsa you want, (5) Then you click "Extract here" button (6) and select a empty folder. Now you have the unpacked OMod in that folder ( esp, meshes , textures,... ) or the unpacked bsa. After you cleaned and sorted the Mod you use the Modmanager to create a OMod. In your folder are the esp and the folders;meshes, textures, sound,.... ( If the Mod have the folders. A textures replacer have only a textures folder but no esp and meshes, sound...) And his folder you use for the OMod. If in the unpack folder is a data folder and in the data folder are esp,meshes, ..... You use the data folder for the OMod, not the unpack folder. E1) Unpackfolder\data\ and inside esp meshes textures... you use the data folder E2) Unpack folder\ and inside esp meshes textures... you use the unpack folder The Modmanager install the files in the game data folder. If you use in exaple E1) the unpack folder for the OMod you will have a data folder in you game data folder ( Oblivion\data\data\meshes\ ) And that will not work. OK you have your cleaned files in a folder. Start OblivionMM At the left bottom you click the "Create" button. (7) In the new window you click "Add Folder" (8) and you select the folder with the esp, meshes textures,... If the Mod have a esp you will see the esp in the window and can now right click it and seletct "import Mod details". (9) Or you manually add a name in the above boxes. ( you must not add version number author and discription ) Now you click the "create omod" button (10) ( you get a warning when you have not add author and discription but you can ignore it ) Wait..... When it is done you see the OMod in the big right window. You click it (mark / highlight it) then down left you click the "activate" button. (it is next to the Create button (7) ) The OMod will be installed in you game folder. If files already exist you get a warning. ( then you must decide which file you want/need ) (And you can delete the original OMod, you have your own cleaned Omod )
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 3, 2018 Author Posted November 3, 2018 Just a quick question, but is there any purpose to the Data\ini file a lot of mods include?
fejeena Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 Data\ini folder ?? Lovers/LAPF need the folder. All animations will not ork without the ini. And many Mods have ini files. Not in all Mods you can set all options in game, for some Mods you make the settings you want in the ini files. Lovers Joburg: not everything you can set in game. In the LoversJoburg.ini you have more settings. LoversHookers: most things you set in the ini ( male-male or female female sex allowed. How many sex to reach the next rank ) .... .... Not only Lovers Mods have ini files in the data\ini folder.
gregathit Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 5 hours ago, AmaryllisThorne said: Just a quick question, but is there any purpose to the Data\ini file a lot of mods include? Open the ini file and read it. It should become obvious at that point.
AmaryllisThorne Posted November 5, 2018 Author Posted November 5, 2018 Welp... Went through and made my own OMods for everything, made sure to only get what I needed for everything, and did some Archive Invalidation just to be certain (think I forgot that the first time, could've been part of the problem), and surprise, CTD at launch. Yay... Here's the load order after using BOSS. Spoiler Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp AddActorValues_example.esp See You Sleep DLL.esp See You Sleep DLL - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp Dynamic Door Knocking.esp Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Immersive Weapons.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp Creature Diversity.esp Creature Diversity Arachnophobia Patch.esp BrotherhoodRenewed.esp BrotherhoodRenewed Vwalk.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp Whispered Warning.esp 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCfrostcrag.esp BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights Vwalk UOP.esp EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp Consequences.esp Consequences_Knights.esp Consequences_Vile.esp MannimarcoRevisited.esp EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp Nephs Unique Thievery.esp LoversCalm.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversBed.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversMB2.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp InstantMagicEffects.esp Thievery_Normal_Thrill.esp Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp EVE_KhajiitFix.esp Dahyka's Vanilla Racial and Birthsign Tweaksv2.2.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp RingofMara.esp Realists Kvatch Attack.esp
DogOnPorch Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, AmaryllisThorne said: Welp... Went through and made my own OMods for everything, made sure to only get what I needed for everything, and did some Archive Invalidation just to be certain (think I forgot that the first time, could've been part of the problem), and surprise, CTD at launch. Yay... Here's the load order after using BOSS. Reveal hidden contents Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp AddActorValues_example.esp See You Sleep DLL.esp See You Sleep DLL - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp Dynamic Door Knocking.esp Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Immersive Weapons.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp Creature Diversity.esp Creature Diversity Arachnophobia Patch.esp BrotherhoodRenewed.esp BrotherhoodRenewed Vwalk.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp Whispered Warning.esp 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCfrostcrag.esp BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights Vwalk UOP.esp EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp Consequences.esp Consequences_Knights.esp Consequences_Vile.esp MannimarcoRevisited.esp EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp Nephs Unique Thievery.esp LoversCalm.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversBed.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversMB2.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp InstantMagicEffects.esp Thievery_Normal_Thrill.esp Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp EVE_KhajiitFix.esp Dahyka's Vanilla Racial and Birthsign Tweaksv2.2.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp RingofMara.esp Realists Kvatch Attack.esp CTDs at launch...with things installed correctly...are often a master/load order issue. Some slave esp being loaded above the master in the load order. Some utilities like Land Magic and others will identify misplaced masters. BOSS lists aside...which I only use as a suggestion these days. You might consider rather than trying to start with all those esps active...going slow and turning them on over several saves/etc to better identify problem areas.
DogOnPorch Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 This is a must-have... Might not solve your current problem..but it will certainly prevent others! https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47085
DogOnPorch Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Lovers MB2 is outdated and often breaks scripted quest events...jus' sayin'.
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