Pee And Fart

[Dg75]

On 12/24/2024 at 7:34 PM, machin666ma said:

Ok. So that's my question though: Should I install the PAF RC3 version despite the warning messages? What does it say for you in Vortex when you install it?

I should ask anyone else here who uses MO2 as well: If your install was successful, how'd you get it to work?

Edit: 

I have an attached screenshot of the error I'm seeing as well after installing PAF 4.0 Loose RC3:
https://gyazo.com/fadeb780105896c316ddba84e5461712

 

(Ignore the Form 43 and Overwrite errors)

 

All I can tell you Vortex installs the Data Folder and everything in it correctly. But leaves the rest of the Bs - the PAF_Addons in the 

Pee and Fart 4.0 Loose folder - and leaves it inside the Games Data Folder - uninstalled - these are DD Addon, CCSurvival, Some Bslide files for Diapers

apparently Vortex will find the data folder even if its inside another folder wear as mo2 don't I guess.

 None of the Addons are being installed because they are outside the Data folder -

but thats alright because I dont use any of the addons outside of DD, but PFA does that so. .

 

 

So I repacked it - just the Data Folder - without the addons.

PeeAndFart 4.0 Loose RC3.7z

 

If you want any of the addons - you nerd to un zip the original 4.0 rc3, and pluck out just what you need and create

a Data folder to put them in. if its Scripts then create Scripts folder and put the scripts in it(.Pex),  create a Source folder and put the Source(.psc) - the blue ones in it. Put Source folder in the Script folder and put Script Folder in the Data folder -

For the Bodyslides, they are probably just for the diapers, theirs one for  CBBE and one for UUNP, Pluck the one you use - Put in a 

CalienteTools folder and put CalienteTools folder your Data Folder.

Right click it and 7-zip it up - Name it whatever - its your mod - e.g. Paf_Addons(migh be confusd with PFA)

- probably Pee and Fart Addons.. or whatever install it with mod manager. Make sure PFA if your using it

over wrights any of its content. Which could only be the DDAddon - in which case you don't need it.

If you are unsure if you need an addon then chances are you don't. I don't even know if the CCAddon scripts are even 

attached to an object. I don't recollect ever seeing an object in Pafs esp - so it may be a vanilla overwright,

and I have no idea what it does!

 

Edited January 26, 2025 by Dg75

[Dg75]

If any Mo2 users are having troubles installing Pee and Fart 4.0 rc3 - See above post. Hope it Hepls Helps!

[machin666ma]

3 hours ago, Dg75 said:

a lot of users are using mo2 and I have never seen any having this issue. 

So you are saying even after install of paf 4.0 - mo2 says the Pee and fart esp is not found Correct ? 

and oh. the KIC_Paf_4.0 is obsolete, You should use PAF_FollowerKIC in  PFA downloads. Does the same thing and more. 

As I mentioned earlier in the first post, and the first error message you posted, the data folder you are installing looks wrong. 

As seen in the screenshot, everything appeared to be in the Pee and Fart 4.0 Loose folder even the Data folder,

Only PAF_Addons (this is not PFA, its uninstalled addons from PAF 4.0) 

should be in their, and the Pee and Fart 4.0 Loose folder should be in the Data folder along with everything else. 

Its weird like Mo2 is having an issue installing the mod.  Well it is if everything is a non directory folder - Pee and fart 4.0 loose folder.

 

its weird because that's not how the mod is packed. Try re-download a fresh copy of Pee and fart 4.0 RC3 

Uninstall all old files of Pee and fart and PFA, then reinstall in order

Paf 4.0 RC3 then PFAVoicePack Main, then PFA, and then any patches. And yes PFA requires PFA_VoicePackMain witch is Comment Manager.esp

 

Past this maybe someone who uses Mo2 may be better assistance. 

 

edit I just downloaded a fresh copy myself Un zipped it and checked its structure, and its exactly 

as it shows in your screen shots. So Idk I guess Its the way its supposed to be. I dont why mo2 wont install it

 

 

Yeah, that's odd... I wish there was a way to contact the author of this mod to see what could be done to resolve the issue in MO2.

I'd try Vortex too, but doesn't it install the mods directly in the game folder?

[Dg75]

11 minutes ago, machin666ma said:

Yeah, that's odd... I wish there was a way to contact the author of this mod to see what could be done to resolve the issue in MO2.

I'd try Vortex too, but doesn't it install the mods directly in the game folder?

Did you see my last post ? I uploaded a fix, try that. Should work for Mo2 now.

[machin666ma]

19 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

Did you see my last post ? I uploaded a fix, try that. Should work for Mo2 now.

You know, I actually forgot to press refresh before posting that lol

Edit: Thank you for taking your time to help me. Merry Christmas and all!

Edited December 25, 2024 by machin666ma

[machin666ma]

Ok, so I was able to correct some bugs with switching over to PAF 4.0. Problem now? I still can't activate the peeing and pooping animations without the use of a bucket or toilet. My character won't undress either.
I don't get the message that my character doesn't need to poop, but that error message does happen for peeing. 

[Dg75]

14 hours ago, machin666ma said:

Ok, so I was able to correct some bugs with switching over to PAF 4.0. Problem now? I still can't activate the peeing and pooping animations without the use of a bucket or toilet. My character won't undress either.
I don't get the message that my character doesn't need to poop, but that error message does happen for peeing. 

Does your pc undress when using toilets ? if not please check Your sexlab mcm and be sure its enabled - last page right panel should be painted green!

What version PFA are you using ?

you should have in this order:

0. Other requirements - skse, sexlab, aroused, stroties, slavetats, racemenu...

1. Pee and Fart 4.0 rc3

2. PFA_VoicepackMain - latest, I think its 3.2.2 - soon to be 3.2.3

3. PFA_MaleVariants - optional-recommended

4. Paf Fixes and Addons v 3.7.1 soon to be 3.7.2 

 

anything less than 3.7.1 may cause PC not being able to paf, and is because your sexlab doesn't validate your PC for sex.

Either sexlab not enabled or some mod has your pc exluded from sex.

Or your using an unrecognized race that sexlab don't know... or whatever

Anyways pfa 3.7.1 + done away with using that function reference. Paf 4.0 without pfa still uses that reference!

But PFA and Paf still use sexlab functions to undress!

Several other users had reported same issue. If you are on latest version and still getting error -

turn on PFA's debug mode and reproduce it, report back with any feedback - ideally on PFA's support page.

Edited December 26, 2024 by Dg75

[machin666ma]

On 12/26/2024 at 12:32 PM, Dg75 said:

Does your pc undress when using toilets ? if not please check Your sexlab mcm and be sure its enabled - last page right panel should be painted green!

What version PFA are you using ?

you should have in this order:

0. Other requirements - skse, sexlab, aroused, stroties, slavetats, racemenu...

1. Pee and Fart 4.0 rc3

2. PFA_VoicepackMain - latest, I think its 3.2.2 - soon to be 3.2.3

3. PFA_MaleVariants - optional-recommended

4. Paf Fixes and Addons v 3.7.1 soon to be 3.7.2 

 

anything less than 3.7.1 may cause PC not being able to paf, and is because your sexlab doesn't validate your PC for sex.

Either sexlab not enabled or some mod has your pc exluded from sex.

Or your using an unrecognized race that sexlab don't know... or whatever

Anyways pfa 3.7.1 + done away with using that function reference. Paf 4.0 without pfa still uses that reference!

But PFA and Paf still use sexlab functions to undress!

Several other users had reported same issue. If you are on latest version and still getting error -

turn on PFA's debug mode and reproduce it, report back with any feedback - ideally on PFA's support page.

Ok, I'll check. How do you turn on PFA's debug mode?

I believe I have all the required mods. i have paf 4.0 rc3. The required mods I have are all but stroties... Is that the toilet mod? I think I have that. I'd need ZAZ for that, right?

Edited December 27, 2024 by machin666ma

[Dg75]

11 hours ago, machin666ma said:

Ok, I'll check. How do you turn on PFA's debug mode?

I believe I have all the required mods. i have paf 4.0 rc3. The required mods I have are all but stroties... Is that the toilet mod? I think I have that. I'd need ZAZ for that, right?

PFA's MCM page - right pane towards the bottom - their is two different debug options, you want the one that turns on message notifications. Be warned though 

it may blow up your screen with a lot of messages. So try to get set up first then turn it on just for the test, then back off. This dont fix anything - just prints notes on 

whats going down. Like the papyrus log, except without the log - by the way you should have the papyrus log shut off in your .ini to save performance.

 

Based on what I've seen so far though from above posts it looks to me like you don't have sexlab enabled. You get notifs "You cannot do that right now"

when tring to pee and no notifs when trying to poop - because poop function dont print that like pee function dose. These fail because of Sexlabs ValidateActor 

function is failing to validate your PC. If you are on older PFA - Newer PFA does away with that and just asks Sexlab if PC is currently engaged in sex or not. 

You are able to use toilets  because PFA don't run any Sexlab inquires at all, just checks if in sit state. 

Undressing probably not happen though in either cases if sexlab not propperly enabled and fully functional.  SexLab is a hard requirement and it must be enabled.

 

Stroties is Required toilet resource's for Pee and Fart - mainly for the outhouses you can place. Pee and fart No longer requires ZAZ

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4086

[WoeHarold]

This mod is really buggy for me right now. It worked like a charm a week ago when I was using Nemesis & DAR but ever since I switched to Pandora & OAR it's just been a mess. Stripping doesn't work, moan doesn't work, my selection of animations is extremely limited I only have two peeing pose options to pick from for pooping and when I get an emergency notification I have to jump to get control back. Pandora doesn't even show it in the list of patches/animations when I run it. I looked in the P&F files and it does have all the standard animations in there so I don't know why it's failing to let me select them.

[Dg75]

On 1/3/2025 at 3:56 PM, WoeHarold said:

This mod is really buggy for me right now. It worked like a charm a week ago when I was using Nemesis & DAR but ever since I switched to Pandora & OAR it's just been a mess. Stripping doesn't work, moan doesn't work, my selection of animations is extremely limited I only have two peeing pose options to pick from for pooping and when I get an emergency notification I have to jump to get control back. Pandora doesn't even show it in the list of patches/animations when I run it. I looked in the P&F files and it does have all the standard animations in there so I don't know why it's failing to let me select them.

if  undressing fails, this mod uses sexlab for that. Check your sexlab instal and make sure its fully enabled and functional.

I just use Fnis despite being considered old - it aint broke - "if it aint broke dont fix it"  well in some cases.

Don't matter whichever behavior patcher you use if the install is incorrect it aint going work worth a hoot!

 

if not already using Paf fixes and Addons mod, maybe give it a try - but if you having those issues above, I doubt it would work either.

[leking]

Hello i am using paf and paf addon and fixes. 

 

What would be the set up to make sure my follower are gonna paf in front of everyone regardless of where we are.

 

Currently when i am in town they just try avoid pafing and when they cannot anymore they just leak. I don't use toilet i just want them to paf and use the animations i gave them no matter where we are.

 

And i am a little confused with all the options

[TecunumanJr]

i would really like this mod if there was an animation for either gender to just be able to do whatever in someones mouth and not have the pee and poo fall to the ground, like you'd just hear the noises of it happening or something

 

[TecunumanJr]

oh and animations for the animals too

 

[WoeHarold]

On 1/9/2025 at 11:39 AM, Dg75 said:

if  undressing fails, this mod uses sexlab for that. Check your sexlab instal and make sure its fully enabled and functional.

I just use Fnis despite being considered old - it aint broke - "if it aint broke dont fix it"  well in some cases.

Don't matter whichever behavior patcher you use if the install is incorrect it aint going work worth a hoot!

 

if not already using Paf fixes and Addons mod, maybe give it a try - but if you having those issues above, I doubt it would work either.

Still trying to figure the mod out. I got it mostly working except the lack of animations issue. I have Sexlab Framework, ZAZ animation pack, Slave Tats & P&F in that order. I wouldn't think the ZAZ pack would be necessary cause the P&F mod already has a ton of animations in its files preloaded. This is what it looks like in the MCM when trying to select a solo pooping animation for males, and despite which of these 2 I select it still uses a random animation.

[Dg75]

6 hours ago, WoeHarold said:

Still trying to figure the mod out. I got it mostly working except the lack of animations issue. I have Sexlab Framework, ZAZ animation pack, Slave Tats & P&F in that order. I wouldn't think the ZAZ pack would be necessary cause the P&F mod already has a ton of animations in its files preloaded. This is what it looks like in the MCM when trying to select a solo pooping animation for males, and despite which of these 2 I select it still uses a random animation.

Zaz isn't a requirement anymore as Pee and Fart 4.0 included what it needed, but it don't hurt to have installed anyways. I do.

 

as far as those I don't mess with them, I just leave them at default. I only adjust the above section -the gender specific to preference.

The lower section you are at their is for kink(paf sex) and should be randomly chosen animations based on your mcm setting - Paf states, and anims selected

 

 

[xlock44]

You will lose control of your character at random times.

It has been stated in the past that installing SkyClimb causes this problem, so I tried removing it, but the problem still occurs.

Does anyone know of a solution?

I'm using Pee and Fart 4.0 rc3 and PAF Fixes and Addons 3.8.0.

[Dg75]

6 hours ago, xlock44 said:

You will lose control of your character at random times.

It has been stated in the past that installing SkyClimb causes this problem, so I tried removing it, but the problem still occurs.

Does anyone know of a solution?

I'm using Pee and Fart 4.0 rc3 and PAF Fixes and Addons 3.8.0.

You will lose control of your character? - All controls ?

when animations run, controls are disabled via papyrus, then reenabled when animation is complete. 

pee and fart does this when paffing, but I've never had an issue with it.

Also their are some mods like GamePad ++ or AH Hotkeys that mod the controle map . . I use them both and never had an issue with them.

Cant think of anything else that cause that.

[xlock44]

27 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

You will lose control of your character? - All controls ?

when animations run, controls are disabled via papyrus, then reenabled when animation is complete. 

pee and fart does this when paffing, but I've never had an issue with it.

Also their are some mods like GamePad ++ or AH Hotkeys that mod the controle map . . I use them both and never had an issue with them.

Cant think of anything else that cause that.

You can move the camera and control time, but everything else becomes impossible.
I'm using a mouse and keyboard.
I'll try using GamePad++.

[SpectreJester]

Having some trouble with this lately on Anniversary Edition. My character's bladder never seems to actually fill up. I'm using Pee and Fart with PAF Fixes and Private Needs - Orgasm. 

[krisht]

On 1/17/2025 at 10:02 AM, Dg75 said:

You will lose control of your character? - All controls ?

when animations run, controls are disabled via papyrus, then reenabled when animation is complete. 

pee and fart does this when paffing, but I've never had an issue with it.

Also their are some mods like GamePad ++ or AH Hotkeys that mod the controle map . . I use them both and never had an issue with them.

Cant think of anything else that cause that.

I can confirm these are true.. I got the same thing and I also do have SkyClimb as well..

But only by removing PAF that my character don't get stuck and can't move anymore..

For me it only occurs when someone initiating a conversation with me..


- EDIT
Found the cause.. it only locked your character movement when you are near a vaulting or climbing area..
I don't know why these can be a conflict... PAF and SkyClimb does conflict in a weird way..

My way to fix this is just disabling vaulting or climbing in SkyClimb so I can talk to bartender and horse carriage

Edited January 21, 2025 by krisht

[Dg75]

4 hours ago, krisht said:

I can confirm these are true.. I got the same thing and I also do have SkyClimb as well..

But only by removing PAF that my character don't get stuck and can't move anymore..

For me it only occurs when someone initiating a conversation with me..


- EDIT
Found the cause.. it only locked your character movement when you are near a vaulting or climbing area..
I don't know why these can be a conflict... PAF and SkyClimb does conflict in a weird way..

My way to fix this is just disabling vaulting or climbing in SkyClimb so I can talk to bartender and horse carriage

I've never even heard of Sky climb mod until you guys mention it. I'll check it out! Sounds interesting.

At the very least I'll look into those scripts and try to discover why the conflict - gotta be something both scripts-

share in common thats confusing sky climb into disabling PC movement... or vice versa

 

Damn! I thought PFA had it bad with so many requirement's. 

Skyclimb has a lot! So I guess the way to go if on .1170 is the sky Parker addon + 1.40 update.. I'll give it a go

Just browsing the forum's their it appears others have noted similar issues with loosing controls - something to do 

with the spacebar..

Edited January 21, 2025 by Dg75

[Dg75]

On 1/16/2025 at 1:55 PM, xlock44 said:

You will lose control of your character at random times.

It has been stated in the past that installing SkyClimb causes this problem, so I tried removing it, but the problem still occurs.

Does anyone know of a solution?

I'm using Pee and Fart 4.0 rc3 and PAF Fixes and Addons 3.8.0.

SkyClimb is .dll - I dont know if it made changes to the game that may have baked into your save file -

thus removing SkyClimb may be a false negative here... IDK?

If your issue persists maybe put it back in and try deactivating the Vault/climb like @krisht suggests in above post.

I will attempt to install SkyClimb and see if I can reproduce it.

[xlock44]

On 1/22/2025 at 2:22 AM, Dg75 said:

SkyClimb is .dll - I dont know if it made changes to the game that may have baked into your save file -

thus removing SkyClimb may be a false negative here... IDK?

If your issue persists maybe put it back in and try deactivating the Vault/climb like @krisht suggests in above post.

I will attempt to install SkyClimb and see if I can reproduce it.

 

I also installed Parker addon +1.40.

I'm playing on 1.5.97, so I installed it with the following load order as described. (I use MO2)

・SkyClimb(ver1.1.1)
・SkyParkour - 360 Hold to Climb [ver1.4.0]
・Pre 1.6.1130 DLL ONLY (CommonlibNG)[ver1.4.0-NG]
・SkyParkour Update 1.4.3 [ver1.4.3]

 

I couldn't control the character even if I disabled Vault/climb.

In my environment, it seems that the character becomes uncontrollable a while after the marker appears.
After trying various things, I was able to avoid the character becoming uncontrollable by disabling UseJumpkey in Sky Climb's MCM and assigning it to any button.
If you disable UseJumpkey and set it to the same as the jump button, holding down the button will perform a normal jump, followed by a climbing animation.

It's a mystery XD

I'm using a translation tool, so I'm sorry if the words are strange.

 

[Dg75]

On 1/19/2025 at 6:26 AM, SpectreJester said:

Having some trouble with this lately on Anniversary Edition. My character's bladder never seems to actually fill up. I'm using Pee and Fart with PAF Fixes and Private Needs - Orgasm. 

Be sure PFA is latest version as it recently addressed similar issues.