ArieWasTaken Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 My issue is basically.. crashing once I get into Whiterun. That's literally it. The papyrus log at the very end says something about Live another life and Open Cities Skyrim.esp not existing. Weird, right? Well, I have no crashes doing anything else. As a matter of fact, my game is crash free other than that. It runs smoothly. And it's worth noting that it only does this upon my first time entering Whiterun. Times afterward (yes. if I crash, try again, and go back to whiterun.) it'll let me in no problem, with no crashes following that. I just wanna fix this so I can finally actually play the game and stop beta testing my load order. All my utilities are up to date (I've been very anal about that lately! And I know people are sick of seeing me in here. I'm sick of seeing myself in here, but hey, this time I've got a ton of information!) Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.13a] 06 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 07 SGHairPackBase.esm 08 EFFCore.esm 09 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 0A RSkyrimChildren.esm 0B HighResTexturePack01.esp 0C HighResTexturePack02.esp 0D HighResTexturePack03.esp 0E Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.2.1] 0F FISS.esp 10 SkyUI.esp 11 AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00] 12 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp 13 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 14 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp 15 Dead Body Collision.esp 16 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 17 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp 18 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 19 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 1A LostGrimoire.esp 1B UltimateCombat.esp 1C UltimateDragons.esp 1D TKRecoil.esp 1E HitStop.esp 1F Mortal Enemies.esp 20 TKDodge.esp 21 Immersive Weapons.esp 22 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp 23 Immersive Encounters.esp 24 Bijin AIO.esp 25 Serana.esp 26 Valerica.esp 27 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.4.2] 28 Cuyima 3DNPC.esp 29 3DNPCEFF.esp 2A RSChildren.esp [Version 1.2.0.] 2B Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp 2C SkyrimUnhinged.esp 2D Immersive Wenches.esp 2E Deadly Wenches.esp 2F Males of Skyrim.esp 30 YurianaWench.esp 31 RosaFollower.esp 32 YuiH's Screenshot Models - Freyane.esp 33 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 34 Real Roads.esp 35 Skyrim HD Tribute - Roads.esp 36 EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp 37 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 38 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 39 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp 3A Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 3B SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 3C Realistic HD Beverages.esp 3D LSFX-Audiosettings.esp 3E BWS.esp 3F AOS.esp [Version 2.5.1DGDB] 40 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 41 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp 42 DragonShoutVoice.esp 43 IHSS.esp 44 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp 45 ADS.esp 46 SAM Music Overhaul.esp 47 CinematicFireFX.esp 48 RevampedExteriorFog.esp 49 Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp 4A FNIS.esp 4B FNIS_PCEA2.esp 4C Headtracking.esp 4D ExtraPocket.esp 4E WeightMorphs.esp 4F towConversation.esp 50 Customizable Camera.esp 51 EFFDialogue.esp 52 RaceMenu.esp 53 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 54 KS Hairdo's.esp 55 SGHairPackAIO.esp 56 YMMP.esp 57 FreckleMania.esp 58 FreckleMania2.esp 59 RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp 5A CitrusHead - Standalone.esp 5B EmpyreanCS.esp 5C SGEyebrows.esp 5D Brows.esp 5E 12FemaleBrows.esp 5F Better Females - Eyebrows.esp 60 Beards.esp 61 Lieyes_v1.0.esp 62 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] 63 LindsHumanEyes.esp 64 LindsMerEyes.esp 65 TrueEyes.esp 66 TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp 67 Neithteam Warpaint.esp 68 TheCoenaculiMALE.esp 69 EmpyreanWarpaints.esp 6A StojaMakeupPack.esp 6B Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 6C SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 6D SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 6E SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 6F SOSRaceMenu.esp 70 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 71 TAWoBA_WenchBodyConversion.esp 72 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 73 BikiniAscendVolume1.esp 74 Notverigud Nordic Carved Bikini.esp 75 Black Viper's Will.esp 76 Sexy Robes and Hats.esp 77 DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp 78 DragonPlateBrazen.esp 79 Dragonbone Marauder armor Addon.esp 7A Dragonbone Marauder armor.esp 7B NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp 7C Lady of Death.esp 7D BDYEB.esp 7E Leolic.esp 7F TsuntsunArmor7B.esp 80 Guild Duelist Armor.esp 81 BDLeatherRobe.esp 82 Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp 83 AncientDraugr.esp 84 BBP_Sexy Elves.esp 85 HotpantsBikini.esp 86 GDZZJJDH.esp 87 Fancy Dress.esp 88 NordicTrousers.esp 89 SnowWhite.esp 8A H2135FantasySeries1.esp 8B H2135FantasySeries2.esp 8C BDO Gotha Rensa Female Armor UUNP.esp 8D TrissArmorRetextured.esp 8E Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 8F Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 90 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 91 Anal Torch.esp 92 UIExtensions.esp 93 AddItemMenu2.esp 94 XPMSE.esp 95 Immersive Wenches -SG&KS hairs- Patch.esp 96 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 97 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 98 ELFX - Hardcore.esp 99 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.7] 9A Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 9B RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp 9C RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 9D RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp [Version 1.2.0.] 9E ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 9F ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp A0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp A1 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp For this papyrus log, I started off with live another life and chose camping in the woods. I then edited a bunch of my MCM settings, spawned in armor sets and weapons with additemmenu, and then I was on my way. I went to fight the bandits near that camp, went through riverwood and turned right at whiterun to go to Windhelm. I left windhelm shortly after (Was looking for a 3DNPC I was curious about.) and left for Markarth, where I talked to Jolene, another 3DNPC. (I love her.) After that, I remembered my crash, and decided, why not test it out? I haven't crashed thus far. And of course when I went to whiterun, spoke to the guard about dragons, I persuaded him to let me in, and I crashed AFTER (I feel like that's important.) Loading into whiterun. My screen was still black, but the door made a sound like it closed behind me, and then it crashed. The time that I crashed was about the time the papyrus log brought up its last record. I'm pretty sure this is an issue with live another life having a mod conflict of some sort because I remember there being talk on Arthmoor's mod page (Sadly now unsupported because I'm an LE urchin.) about this very guard being kinda wonky in the past. Maybe one of my patches for USLEEP regarding compatibility with other mods does something that Live Another Life doesn't like? I dunno. If anyone knows a fix, I'd appreciate it a lot! I just wanna begin my adventures again, you know? Papyrus.0.log
Dorabella Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 I had your same problem, I removed this one Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp and the problem has disappeared
ArieWasTaken Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said: I had your same problem, I removed this one Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp and the problem has disappeared It seems pretty peculiar to me that getting rid of USLEEP of all things would be the fix for this, but I'll try this out. Beggars can't be choosers after all.
Dorabella Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, swiggitywashere said: It seems pretty peculiar to me that getting rid of USLEEP In fact, it seems strange to me, but I solved it, someone will certainly have a better solution than this.
ArieWasTaken Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said: In fact, it seems strange to me, but I solved it, someone will certainly have a better solution than this. Well I'll be darned. That worked! But problem now is other mods I had relied on USLEEP, like SAM music overhaul. I'd have to dump a lot of stuff if it means stopping the crash now.
Dorabella Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, swiggitywashere said: Well I'll be darned. That worked! But problem now is other mods I had relied on USLEEP, like SAM music overhaul. I'd have to dump a lot of stuff if it means stopping the crash now. We look forward to an alternative solution ? I doubt there is only this
ArieWasTaken Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 Well, I just tried it with USLEEP And all my patches again, and went straight to whiterun and it worked no problem. Papyrus log even had the same open cities message again. Come to think of it, this crash only seems to be a thing after I've not gone to whiterun first (after riverwood that is.) and go somewhere else like windhelm or something. It's almost as if the game dislikes me not going to whiterun first, like something about me going elsehwere and either entering a new town or killing someone or something is the cause. Maybe its just after a set amount of time? This is so confusing. ?
Grey Cloud Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Open Cities is not the same as AS LAL. The Papyrus log mentions Open Cities esp being missing which suggests that at one time it was installed but you have removed it but are using the same save (rarely a good idea). Always use a new game to troubleshoot. I also doubt that USLEEP is at fault as if there was a problem with it a lot more people would be having problems. For future reference, a plug-in list is of more use than a Papyrus log or mod list for troubleshooting.
ArieWasTaken Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 57 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Open Cities is not the same as AS LAL. The Papyrus log mentions Open Cities esp being missing which suggests that at one time it was installed but you have removed it but are using the same save (rarely a good idea). Always use a new game to troubleshoot. I also doubt that USLEEP is at fault as if there was a problem with it a lot more people would be having problems. For future reference, a plug-in list is of more use than a Papyrus log or mod list for troubleshooting. I didn't say Open Cities was the same as AS LAL, I never even downloaded open cities, and I've actually been starting new games each and everytime to test these things. I felt it was weird that USLEEP would be a cause too, but I'm testing everything, here. Also, I do have a plugin list, see the OP.
GenioMaestro Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Lines 264-274 of the log: Spoiler [08/24/2018 - 03:30:49AM] Error: File "Open Cities Skyrim.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [ARTHLALRumorsOfWarQuest (9907A334)].arth_lal_rumorsofwarscript.ToggleOCSGateTrigger() - "ARTH_LAL_RumorsOfWarScript.psc" Line 81 [ARTHLALRumorsOfWarQuest (9907A334)].ARTH_QF_LALRumorsOfWarQuest_0207A334.Fragment_96() - "ARTH_QF_LALRumorsOfWarQuest_0207A334.psc" Line 1226 [08/24/2018 - 03:30:49AM] Error: File "Open Cities Skyrim.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [ARTHLALRumorsOfWarQuest (9907A334)].arth_lal_rumorsofwarscript.ToggleOCSGateTrigger() - "ARTH_LAL_RumorsOfWarScript.psc" Line 81 [ARTHLALRumorsOfWarQuest (9907A334)].ARTH_QF_LALRumorsOfWarQuest_0207A334.Fragment_81() - "ARTH_QF_LALRumorsOfWarQuest_0207A334.psc" Line 1365 [08/24/2018 - 03:31:52AM] error: Unbound native function "AIM2_DebugTrace" called Lines 710-714 of the log: Spoiler [08/24/2018 - 04:31:19AM] Error: File "Open Cities Skyrim.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [ARTHLALRumorsOfWarQuest (9907A334)].arth_lal_rumorsofwarscript.ToggleOCSGateTrigger() - "ARTH_LAL_RumorsOfWarScript.psc" Line 81 [ARTHLALWhiterunGuardConfrontationQuest (9929847F)].arth_qf_lalwhiterunguard_0529847f.Fragment_0() - "ARTH_QF_LALWhit For any expert in moding skyrim is TOO EVIDENT this is a error generated by a mod triying to find another mod for enable compatibity. That NOT MEAN open cities has been installed in any time and NOT MEAN a problem in the game and NOT MEAN a problem in the mod. I really boubt your problem can be related to USLEEP or AS, the two mods are updated recently and always work in a very related way for minimize the posible problems to the near inexistence. And the probe is the recently updates and the log about the modification made the mods. For USLEEP: https://afkmods.iguanadons.net/Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch Version History.html For AS: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9557/?tab=logs (open Change log) If your problem disappears when you delete USLEEP and it does not reappear when USLEEP is enabled, it can not be related to USLEEP. It can be related to another mod that must be disabled to start the game without USLEEP or it may be related to the loading order. But if the problem does not exist NOW, no more laps, be happy with your game.
ArieWasTaken Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 Sorry if it seemed like I was pointing fingers, if anything it just sorta felt like I might've fat fingered a key and caused something to go awry myself. But yeah, things seem to be calming down as of right now, so I'll just leave it be, and test stuff a bit more later.
Grey Cloud Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 I didn't say that you said OC and AS LAL were the same. It is just that your title and your OP both mention LAL yet the log refers to OC so my point was that you were confusing the two mods which are both by Arthmoor. Was that a plug-in list or a mod list? And what did you use to produce it? The reason I ask is that the numbering is out and you have decimal and hexadecimal numbers mixed up. Maybe that's just me. I'm confused as to why Whiterun is locked if you haven't been near Helgen.
ArieWasTaken Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 I pulled that list from Wrye Bash as per instructed. It is in fact my list of plugins. And again sorry if I sounded hostile, I was just trying to clear up stuff. That being said, ultimately what solved my issue I found was updating my bashed patch. I spent an hour of not going to whiterun, talking to 3D NPCs and finding Freyane (love her.) and then I went back to whiterun. No issues, assassin tried to kill me from a rooftop when in side, 10/10. Thanks everyone.
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