xyzxyz Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Hi, I had lots of crashes recently because my system had problems spawning the mods I use. So I want to upgrade my PC to get a lag free gameplay again. But what part should I upgrade? My system is: Windows 10 Graphics AMD Radeon (TM) RX 460 (graphics are really good) Processor Intel R Core (TM) i5-6402P CPU 2,80 GHz (4 of them) 8 GB RAM
GenioMaestro Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Probably your problem is not machine, i have i5 4460 with gtx 660, only a bit low yours, and have near 200 mod's with near cero prolems. But i have 16g of memory in Win 7. Maybe 8 g's ram for win 10 is a bit low. I think is the only thing that you must up because is cheap and easy for install. I presume your entire machine is a bit old, like 3 year, like mine, but can handle games from past year, of course in low graphics with low resolution, normaly i play new games in 1440x900, but skyrim go in full hd 1920x1080, normaly from 60-50 fps, but some times down temporally to 40-30. Maybe you can upgrade ONLY video card, but be sure your PSU can support it. Im thinking on buy a gtx 1060 for my machine. Of course, you can change your machine, but buy a entire new, because re-use old components is not recomended. You need new CPU and normally that mean new motherboard and memory. Of course, new video card and normally this mean new PSU. Really only can save case, hard disk and dvd. Talking about your skyrim i can recomend some things. First google a bit and install the game stabilizers, if you not have it: SKSE Memory Patch Crash Fixes 12 ENB in Boost mode. This 3 tools cover a lot of otimizations for the game and solve a lot of CTD. Clean your save with ReSaver for discard bad things in savegame or start a NEW GAME. Put your mod list and one papyrus.log for take a look.
xyzxyz Posted July 28, 2018 Author Posted July 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: but can handle games from past year, of course in low graphics with low resolution It can handle graphic intense games like World of Tanks on nearly max settings without too bad fps, so it should be good enough 17 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Talking about your skyrim i can recomend some things. First install the game stabilizers, if you not have it: SKSE Memory Patch Crash Fixes 12 ENB in Boost mode. I use them. My problems are for example non-changing dialogues (I have to save and reload to get the new ones) and most annoying crashing dragonsreach if I use Slaverun and want to enter the changed Dragonsreach (it's not a mod ctd, because I get the computer crashing sound) And that happens with a new game too. Mod-list: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 AOM.esm 7 7 SkyMoMod.esm 8 8 BBLuxurySuite.esm 9 9 SexLab.esm 10 a SexLabAroused.esm 11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 d Inn Girls Resources.esm 14 e ZaZAnimationPack.esm 15 f Gray Fox Cowl.esm 16 10 daymoyl.esm 17 11 hdtHighHeel.esm 18 12 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 19 13 UndergroundBathhouse.esm 20 14 ApachiiHair.esm 21 15 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 22 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 23 17 paradise_halls.esm 24 18 CreatureFramework.esm 25 19 lordship.esp 26 1a Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 27 1b Immersive Jewelry.esp 28 1c paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 29 1d MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp 30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 31 1f SSv2.esp 32 20 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 33 21 xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp 34 22 Dragon Born Castle.esp 35 23 caliente's beautiful bodies edition.esp 36 24 ts_erocktheme.esp 37 25 viking warsword.esp 38 26 ragnarsword.esp 39 27 ensiferumbattlemusicbattlesong.esp 40 28 Immersive Weapons.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp 41 29 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 42 2a old-draugr-new-tricks.esp 43 2b SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 44 2c Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 45 2d SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 46 2e SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 47 2f SexyBanditCaptives.esp 48 30 sutvaka2.esp 49 31 Forgotten Dungeons.esp 50 32 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 51 33 Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp 52 34 TBOS.esp analtmerintrigue-hf.esp 53 35 more dragons.esp 54 36 Gatti12Jewelry.esp 55 37 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 56 38 AsharaImperialOutfit.esp 57 39 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 58 3a HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 59 3b SkyUI.esp 60 3c MoreSlaves.esp GM-CookingRebalanceFinal.esp 61 3d SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp 62 3e SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 63 3f AOM.esp 64 40 Cloaks.esp 65 41 Run For Your Lives.esp 66 42 Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 67 43 Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 68 44 FyrManor_BASE.esp 69 45 DeviousTraps.esp buildablehouse.esp 70 46 PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 71 47 MoonstoneCastle.esp 72 48 vikinghouse.esp 73 49 GR123 Knights Templar.esp 74 4a SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp 75 4b mihaillegion.esp 76 4c markartharena.esp 77 4d SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 78 4e morehunting.esp 79 4f SexLabSexBounty.esp 80 50 BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp 81 51 Roman armor and weapons replacer.esp 82 52 Immersive Wenches.esp 83 53 RewardYourFollowers.esp 84 54 PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp 85 55 mihaildracolizards.esp 86 56 quest_pitfighter.esp 87 57 AyleidSanctuary.esp 88 58 BBLSVisitors.esp 89 59 MoreNastyCritters.esp 90 5a diversified conjuration.esp 91 5b Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp 92 5c northman race.esp 93 5d artillery_dfa.esp 94 5e FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp falkreath lookout.esp 95 5f mihailvampirebeasts.esp 96 60 OvIbrewing.esp beschuetzer von himmelsrand.esp 97 61 draugraxe.esp 98 62 SpousesEnhanced.esp 99 63 mihailrottenmaidens.esp 100 64 Silver Arrows and Bolts Mod by Meneldur.esp 101 65 Wildhunt_Manor.esp 102 66 FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp 103 67 mihailmmasithis.esp 104 68 SlaversHideout.esp 105 69 BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp 106 6a moresmeltables.esp 107 6b SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 108 6c dr_bandolier.esp 109 6d BBLSspouse.esp 110 6e paula_follower.esp 111 6f sandboxcylinderheight.esp 112 70 NorseMaille.esp 113 71 LoversComfort.esp 114 72 Roman armor and weapons.esp 115 73 JolgeirrBarrow.esp 116 74 Lets Tie You Up.esp DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp display-model.esp 117 75 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 118 76 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 119 77 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 120 78 RaceMenu.esp 121 79 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 122 7a SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 123 7b TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp 124 7c romanweapons.esp 125 7d FNISspells.esp 126 7e DD - Interactions.esp 127 7f zzEstrus.esp 128 80 EstrusChaurus.esp 129 81 UIExtensions.esp 130 82 Greek_Armor.esp 131 83 SLPleasure.esp 132 84 MoreRevelers.esp 133 85 SLAnimLoader.esp 134 86 SLALAnimObj.esp 135 87 DrunkenSluts.esp 136 88 ub_cell_darkarea.esp 137 89 ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp 138 8a ub_tapestry.esp 139 8b ub_invite_any_npc.esp 140 8c EstrusSpider.esp 141 8d Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp 142 8e BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 143 8f dD Enchanted Chests.esp 144 90 Kylie.esp 145 91 GGFriendlyWhore.esp 146 92 SlaveTats.esp 147 93 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 148 94 TW3Weaponry.esp 149 95 aSexyMod.esp 150 96 mihailoldgod.esp 151 97 Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp 152 98 theeyesofbeauty.esp 153 99 mihaildruidbackpack.esp 154 9a FNIS.esp 155 9b SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 156 9c HentaiCreatures.esp 157 9d BBLSmusic.esp 158 9e SLAL_K4Anims.esp 159 9f XPMSE.esp 160 a0 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE_LL.esp 161 a1 zzMaidOutfits.esp 162 a2 paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 163 a3 mihailhealingorb.esp 164 a4 BDIC.esp 165 a5 SexLabDefeat.esp 166 a6 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 167 a7 Dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp 168 a8 SLNaughtyCourier.esp 169 a9 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 170 aa ccas_starts.esp Not too many mods I guess.
GenioMaestro Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, xyzxyz said: My problems are for example non-changing dialogues (I have to save and reload to get the new ones) and most annoying crashing dragonsreach if I use Slaverun and want to enter the changed Dragonsreach (it's not a mod ctd, because I get the computer crashing sound) And that happens with a new game too. This must be by bad order or mod incompatibility, un-updated mod or faulting compatibity patch's. But im not expert in mod order and this site have hundreds of mod's, the combinations are infites. The only recomendations that i can give is re-install XPMSE. XPMSE must ovewrite all and none mod can overwrite XPMSE. Disable Paradise Halls mod's, you have some, and try. I see some problems with Paradise Halls. If problem persist, disabling half of your mod's and verify the problem. If persist continue disabling mod's. When disappear, start slowly enabling mod, 5 or 10 at time, until locate the problematic mod.
xyzxyz Posted July 28, 2018 Author Posted July 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Disable Paradise Halls mod's, you have some, and try. I see some problems with Paradise Halls. What problems? PAHE works fine as far as I can tell.
GenioMaestro Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, xyzxyz said: What problems? PAHE works fine as far as I can tell. The problem is not the mod PAHE, at self, is the combinations of mod's and the relations between them. I not know if the problem is directly related to PAHE, but can be. Is one of the things that you must verify. You say have problem with Slaverun and is a slave mod, like PAHE, and like others. I think can be a collision in the slaves dialog. And the CTD can be for another collision with mod's that change the Dragonsreach, maybe puting npc's or objetcs.
Lozeak Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Skyrim and ENB bottleneck at a certain point so upgrading will do very little for you. For Skyrim, your PC is high spec. If you CTD it's likely a mod or ENB or Skyrim settings. Unless you're getting a blue screen or some popup about unable to reach rendering device it's not your hardware. As far as I know, unless you are asking ENB well too much then you should never/rarely CTD because of lack of resources (unless you put in an ini for it to use more than you have). In my sig there is a link to my blog on how I fixed 99% of my CTDs out of that it was all bad ENB setting or not having all the requirements installed for a mod.
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