RadioActivePrimus Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 Hi, I am having issues as to when I enable creature animations and then save and try to load into that save, it will CTD. Any help would be appreciated. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 actorEvents.esm 7 7 BeeingFemale.esm 8 8 OSA.esm 9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm 10 a SexLab.esm 11 b BSAssets.esm 12 c BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp 13 d Campfire.esm 14 e SexLabAroused.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Assets.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 17 11 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 18 12 notice board.esp 19 13 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 20 14 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 21 15 hdtHighHeel.esm 22 16 RaceCompatibility.esm 23 17 PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm 24 18 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 25 19 ApachiiHair.esm 26 1a Heels Sound.esm 27 1b ZaZAnimationPack.esm 28 1c daymoyl.esm 29 1d CreatureFramework.esm 30 1e EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 31 1f ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp 32 20 JKs Skyrim.esp 33 21 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 34 22 MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp 35 23 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 36 24 Helgen Reborn.esp 37 25 Skyrim Romance Animated.esp 38 26 ZaForswornStory.esp 39 27 BHTNF_Eli.esp 40 28 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 41 29 LKVM by Nimee - Part I.esp 42 2a OBIS.esp 43 2b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 44 2c Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 45 2d Ambriel.esp 46 2e Map Markers.esp 47 2f Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 48 30 zThingsInDark.esp 49 31 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 50 32 Immersive Weapons.esp 51 33 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 52 34 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 53 35 Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp 54 36 SexLab-Stories.esp 55 37 SexyBanditCaptives.esp 56 38 Morskom.esp 57 39 ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp 58 3a Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 59 3b ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp 60 3c animal_mansion.esp 61 3d SMIM-Merged-All.esp 62 3e sanguinesDebauchery.esp 63 3f Dwarfsphere.esp 64 40 Run For Your Lives.esp 65 41 Cloaks.esp 66 42 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 67 43 Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 68 44 BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 69 45 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp 70 46 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp 71 47 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 72 48 SLAnimLoader.esp 73 49 SoMSauronAA.esp 74 4a SkyUI.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 75 4b WetandCold.esp 76 4c WetandCold - Ashes.esp 77 4d ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp 78 4e UIExtensions.esp 79 4f Serana Dialogue Edit.esp 80 50 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 81 51 AddItemMenu2.esp 82 52 RaceMenu.esp 83 53 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 84 54 Brawl Bugs CE.esp 85 55 Headtracking.esp 86 56 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 87 57 iHUD.esp 88 58 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 89 59 VioLens.esp 90 5a When Vampires Attack.esp 91 5b AchieveThat.esp 92 5c DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 93 5d Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 94 5e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 95 5f KS Hairdo's.esp 96 60 HelmetToggle.esp 97 61 Unique Uniques.esp 98 62 BSHeartland - Textures.esp 99 63 Bijin NPCs.esp 100 64 MoreNastyCritters.esp 101 65 Mortal Enemies.esp 102 66 BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp 103 67 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 104 68 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 105 69 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 106 6a BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp 107 6b OBISDB.esp 108 6c UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 109 6d UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp 110 6e UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 111 6f Xanthys.esp 112 70 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 113 71 GOS.esp 114 72 RSChildren.esp RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp 115 73 SimpleSlavery.esp 116 74 a1Ravenous.esp 117 75 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 118 76 Bijin Wives.esp 119 77 ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp 120 78 zDeadlyPleasures.esp 121 79 Immersive Wenches.esp 122 7a konahrik_accoutrements.esp 123 7b Frostfall.esp 124 7c SofiaFollower.esp 125 7d SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 126 7e Marriable Serana.esp 127 7f Spousetocustomhome.esp 128 80 Marriable Serana HF.esp 129 81 SexLab-Parasites.esp 130 82 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 131 83 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 132 84 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp 133 85 SexLabDefeat.esp 134 86 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 135 87 Simple Slavery Defeat.esp 136 88 SlaveTats.esp 137 89 SuccubusRaceLite.esp 138 8a Devious Cidhna.esp 139 8b Hearthfire Cheat Chests.esp 140 8c SexLab_Dialogues.esp 141 8d Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 142 8e Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp 143 8f KNM_Mour.esp 144 90 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 145 91 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 146 92 WorldEaterBeater.esp 147 93 KNM_AcalyphaFollower.esp 148 94 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 149 95 RND_AnimalLoot.esp 150 96 dc-untamed-000.esp dc-untamed-100-stfu-wolf.esp dc-untamed-100-stfu-spriggan.esp 151 97 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 152 98 Apropos.esp 153 99 SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp 154 9a SexLabTools.esp 155 9b SexLabMatchMaker.esp 156 9c XPMSE.esp 157 9d SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 158 9e SL Deadly Drain.esp 159 9f RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 160 a0 Deviously Enslaved.esp 161 a1 Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp 162 a2 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 163 a3 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 164 a4 SexLab_Hormones.esp 165 a5 Undriel_Everlight.esp 166 a6 The Bandits Guild.esp 167 a7 BlackSacramentArmor.esp 168 a8 EggFactory.esp 169 a9 DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp 170 aa My Home Is Your Home.esp 171 ab konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp 172 ac Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 173 ad ValkyrieSwordShield.esp 174 ae Nightingale Prime remaster.esp 175 af TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 176 b0 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 177 b1 SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp 178 b2 SD Addons.esp 179 b3 3PCOFull.esp 180 b4 hmkLockOn.esp dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 181 b5 BVFE_Serana.esp 182 b6 mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp 183 b7 FNIS.esp 184 b8 TKDodge.esp 185 b9 HDTSextoys.esp 186 ba SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 187 bb KomAnimObjects.esp 188 bc AnubAnimObj.esp 189 bd UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp 190 be Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 191 bf Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 192 c0 Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp 193 c1 RDO - UFO v1.2j.b15 Patch.esp 194 c2 RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 195 c3 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 196 c4 ccas_starts.esp 197 c5 ImmerSlave.esp 198 c6 Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp 199 c7 da_alternate_start_extension.esp 200 c8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
demonryupriest Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 Okay, I think I may have found your problem. Looking through your list, unless you merged them with the main file, I noticed that you do not have the fnis spell or creature packs. While the former is something you may not actually need, the latter is required for a couple of the mods you have as it is the main framework for those to work. Try installing that above the other creature animation mods then run fnis again and that should fix the problem. Hope this helps!
Guest Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 Crashing at load, in 99% of cases means a missing master (esm.) If you use MO, then it should tell you which master is missing, if not, then just open all your active mods with TES5Edit, and it will tell you.
Psalam Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 If what has already been suggested hasn't worked for you you may want to consider this. My experience with More Nasty Critters is that it is very finicky. If you check the recommended load order on its mod page you will find that getting the proper load order is stressed. If you read through the threads you will find the load order is stressed even more. Since your problems appear to be creature animation dependent I suggest you redo your load order and put these in the recommended order: first, MoreNastyCritters and second SLAL. I know LOOT wants to put SLAL first (and it makes sense to do it this way) but I have learned (the hard way) that ignoring LOOT and manually changing the load order (in this case) is the way to go. ?
SleepyJim Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 Devious Devices, ZAP, XPMSE and quite a few SLAL pack esps are all in there. That's going to be a lot of animations in your game, and if you're using the latest DD and either of the t.ara ZAPs (8 or 8+) the chances are your game can't handle so many, even with FNIS XXL (which does come with a crash warning for going for too much.) Since DD updated to v4.1 a lot of people have been having that problem. If that's the case for you, you'll need to decide what you really want to keep and what you can afford to get rid of. All of the following might help: Deactivate the XPMSE.esp and remove all the animations it installed, only using the skeletons themselves, unless you really want the weapon scaling, positioning and alternate animations. Go back to a previous version of DD. Stick with the last official ZAP (v7.0.) Cut down on the number of SLAL packs.
Uncle64 Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 108 6c UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 109 6d UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp 110 6e UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp You should also consider to tune up your loadorder. You cant load addons before its masters. Since you seems to have Wrye Bash installed use it for tuning your loadorder. It was one that suggeste that you should install Fnis Spells, you truly dont need that mod at all. What body do you use in your system? You have HDT plugins and also Unp and CBBE addons. You cant have that. Use one body type. What mod do you use that needs this? 6 6 actorEvents.esm
RadioActivePrimus Posted July 12, 2018 Author Posted July 12, 2018 Fixed the UFO stuff, I use CBBE, I probably have some Unp because probably some armour mods only came in that. The actor events is probably for a mod to select what animation to play. Still fairly new to WyreBash, mostly use NMM,LOOT and FNIS.
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