Azurahawk Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 So I'm trying to continue with the vanilla dragonborn quest, and I'm stuck at the greybeards. After doing the 3 unrelenting shouts at the phantoms, the greybeards and my character talk and then rely on Borri to finish the quest off by meeting outside to learn my whirlwind shout. I either CTD when I first glance at him or when he approaches the double doors to exit outside my game CTD's. I cannot advance further apparently. Any idea what's going on, whether this is a mod conflict or a bug? Here's my mod list and the papyrus. (Yes, I have SKSE, SSE Fix though not sure if this is even working..., DLL plugin order; this I don't think works because the log reads nothing and I can't find any other tutorial on how to troubleshoot this, and SKSE64 engine fix; this one currently works.) Thank you in advance! Papyrus.0.log LoadOrder.txt
khumak Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 I get this CTD as well if I wait for them near the doors. If I wait in the middle of the room where they have you practicing Fus Ro for them all to leave then I can follow them out there without crashing and once I've finished practicing the new shout I can enter and leave without any further crashes. No idea what causes it for me. My load order below in case it helps identify the issue. # Automatically generated by Vortex Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm SMSkyrim.esp Falskaar.esm Gray Fox Cowl.esm Wyrmstooth.esp DynDOLOD.esm Campfire.esm FISS.esp Night Eye Overhaul.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm The Boys Of Summer - Vanilla Hair Overhaul.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp UmbraIsland.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp Distinct Interiors.esp MLU.esp S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp Immersive Weapons.esp MLU - Immersive Armors.esp MLU - Immersive Weapons.esp Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp CLARALUX SSE.esp 3DNPC.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Helgen Reborn.esp RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Skyrim Alchemy Fixed - Ordinator.esp Night Eye Overhaul.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp Clockwork.esp WayshrinesIFT.esp Windhelm Docks Pathways SE.esp Dwarfsphere.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp AKShadowsOfThePast.esp Potions.esp Cooking_In_Skyrim_v_2_0.esp BGCollectables.esp Skyshards.esp SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp Solitude Skyway SE.esp Frostfall.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp AchieveThat_SE_en.esp AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp Beards.esp beltfastenedquivers.esp Riften Docks Pathways SE.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp Vigilant.esp DWP.esp CaranthirTowerReborn.esp iNeed.esp Blacksmith Chests.esp Customizable Camera.esp Darkend.esp Vivid WeathersSE.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp DarkerNights.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp DarkerNights-BeyondSkyrimBruma.esp WheelsOfLull.esp ForgottenCity.esp sk_threekingdoms.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp magic of the magna-ge.esp TheIsland.esp EK_UnusualApplications.esp EmbersHD.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp Ravengate.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp DawnguardDragonbornTiming.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Deadly Wenches.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp Dragon Stalking Fix.esp DustEffectsSSE.esp Enchanter Tools Expanded.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp Unslaad.esp moonpath.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Forgotten Magic - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp GIST soul trap.esp honedmetal.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp iHUD.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp Improved Traps.esp JS Armored Circlets SE.esp Keepsakes.esp LeftHandRings.esp LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp NoGrassINCaves.esp NordicCooking.esp NQS_NamedQuicksaves.esp Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp PermanentLegendaryBonus.esp phiAssignedStorage.esp Potion Mixer SE.esp PyP_LE+CRF.esp QuestRemover.esp QuickLight.esp Realistic-Voice.esp RimStats.esp S3DRocks.esp Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp SexLabDefeat.esp ShadowSpellPackage.esp Simple AUA.esp SimplyKnock.esp SkyHUD.esp SkyUI_SE.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SleepTight.esp SMSkyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp Spell Learning.esp SwiftPotion.esp TERAArmorsSSE.esp TrueDragonBorn - Heavy.esp TrueFrostEnchantFX.esp UIExtensions.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp ViewableFactionRanks.esp Vigilant Voiced.esp VioLens SE.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp WayshrinesIFTFalskaar.esp WayshrinesIFTGrayCowl.esp WayshrinesIFTWyrmstooth.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp AKA_LeftHandRings_Patch.esp SofiaFollower.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp CWIELnFXSEPatch.esp CWICRFSEPatch.esp MLU_EZ update2.esp OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp DBM_Skyway_Patch.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp CWIOOSEPatchAIO.esp DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp DBM_CWIPatch.esp DBM_DGE_Patch.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_OpulentAIO_Patch.esp DBM_RelicsofHyrule_Patch.esp DBM_SRCEO_Patch.esp Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp MLU - Opulent Outfits AIO.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp XPMSSE.esp Gameplay Merges.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp DeadlyDragons.esp TKAA.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp ELE_SSE.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp NPC Override.esp Final Conflict.esp DynDOLOD.esp
Azurahawk Posted June 17, 2018 Author Posted June 17, 2018 12 hours ago, khumak said: I get this CTD as well if I wait for them near the doors. If I wait in the middle of the room where they have you practicing Fus Ro for them all to leave then I can follow them out there without crashing and once I've finished practicing the new shout I can enter and leave without any further crashes. No idea what causes it for me. My load order below in case it helps identify the issue. Reveal hidden contents # Automatically generated by Vortex Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm SMSkyrim.esp Falskaar.esm Gray Fox Cowl.esm Wyrmstooth.esp DynDOLOD.esm Campfire.esm FISS.esp Night Eye Overhaul.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm The Boys Of Summer - Vanilla Hair Overhaul.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp UmbraIsland.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp Distinct Interiors.esp MLU.esp S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp Immersive Weapons.esp MLU - Immersive Armors.esp MLU - Immersive Weapons.esp Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp CLARALUX SSE.esp 3DNPC.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Helgen Reborn.esp RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Skyrim Alchemy Fixed - Ordinator.esp Night Eye Overhaul.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp Clockwork.esp WayshrinesIFT.esp Windhelm Docks Pathways SE.esp Dwarfsphere.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp AKShadowsOfThePast.esp Potions.esp Cooking_In_Skyrim_v_2_0.esp BGCollectables.esp Skyshards.esp SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp Solitude Skyway SE.esp Frostfall.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp AchieveThat_SE_en.esp AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp Beards.esp beltfastenedquivers.esp Riften Docks Pathways SE.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp Vigilant.esp DWP.esp CaranthirTowerReborn.esp iNeed.esp Blacksmith Chests.esp Customizable Camera.esp Darkend.esp Vivid WeathersSE.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp DarkerNights.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp DarkerNights-BeyondSkyrimBruma.esp WheelsOfLull.esp ForgottenCity.esp sk_threekingdoms.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp magic of the magna-ge.esp TheIsland.esp EK_UnusualApplications.esp EmbersHD.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp Ravengate.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp DawnguardDragonbornTiming.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Deadly Wenches.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp Dragon Stalking Fix.esp DustEffectsSSE.esp Enchanter Tools Expanded.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp Unslaad.esp moonpath.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Forgotten Magic - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp GIST soul trap.esp honedmetal.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp iHUD.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp Improved Traps.esp JS Armored Circlets SE.esp Keepsakes.esp LeftHandRings.esp LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp NoGrassINCaves.esp NordicCooking.esp NQS_NamedQuicksaves.esp Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp PermanentLegendaryBonus.esp phiAssignedStorage.esp Potion Mixer SE.esp PyP_LE+CRF.esp QuestRemover.esp QuickLight.esp Realistic-Voice.esp RimStats.esp S3DRocks.esp Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp SexLabDefeat.esp ShadowSpellPackage.esp Simple AUA.esp SimplyKnock.esp SkyHUD.esp SkyUI_SE.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SleepTight.esp SMSkyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp Spell Learning.esp SwiftPotion.esp TERAArmorsSSE.esp TrueDragonBorn - Heavy.esp TrueFrostEnchantFX.esp UIExtensions.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp ViewableFactionRanks.esp Vigilant Voiced.esp VioLens SE.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp WayshrinesIFTFalskaar.esp WayshrinesIFTGrayCowl.esp WayshrinesIFTWyrmstooth.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp AKA_LeftHandRings_Patch.esp SofiaFollower.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp CWIELnFXSEPatch.esp CWICRFSEPatch.esp MLU_EZ update2.esp OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp DBM_Skyway_Patch.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp CWIOOSEPatchAIO.esp DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp DBM_CWIPatch.esp DBM_DGE_Patch.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_OpulentAIO_Patch.esp DBM_RelicsofHyrule_Patch.esp DBM_SRCEO_Patch.esp Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp MLU - Opulent Outfits AIO.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp XPMSSE.esp Gameplay Merges.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp DeadlyDragons.esp TKAA.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp ELE_SSE.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp NPC Override.esp Final Conflict.esp DynDOLOD.esp Well in your case, your bashed patch isn't all the way at the bottom. I'd be surprised if you haven't received any further CTD other than the one I'm receiving. The bashed patch is always on the bottom because whatever selected few mods it has been merged with is loaded through that patch.
khumak Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, Azurahawk said: Well in your case, your bashed patch isn't all the way at the bottom. I'd be surprised if you haven't received any further CTD other than the one I'm receiving. The bashed patch is always on the bottom because whatever selected few mods it has been merged with is loaded through that patch. I don't merge anything into my bashed patch. The patches I have after it intentionally override a few of the leveled lists that bash doesn't get quite right. Gameplay Merges and NPC Override are the ones where I have close to 100 mods merged into (mostly patches).
Azurahawk Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 Still need help with this. Anybody encounter this problem before?
Tron91 Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Azurahawk said: Still need help with this. Anybody encounter this problem before? I had this problem. Its related with XPMSE, press "R" a couple of times. If you are using any follower overhaul, try to go alone inside, going with too many followers is equivalent to calling for CTD's A small tip: keep saving inside the hall after every shout. Yesterday i had problems defeating Alduin in Svongard, after each shout the game was CTD after a few seconds. Saved after each shout and cleared the area.
khumak Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 I think my problem was probably something else. I never crash when shouting or during dragon fights. I actually just redid the trip to High Hrothgar as well and I don't crash there anymore either. The only change I made was removing SSE Fixes and tweaking the ini for SSE Engine Fixes a little (I disabled the waterflow and savecleaner but left the rest at the defaults). Have played that game for about 48 hours so far with zero crashes. Now that you mention XPMSSE though, I see that the OP is using Racemenu and there are some known issues with one of the DLL plugins for that which SSE Engine Fixes has a temporary workaround included for.
Azurahawk Posted June 22, 2018 Author Posted June 22, 2018 Still having CTD issues even after the suggestions given
Cankiie Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Personally I am having CTD at the next part of the next, I do not experience anything inside and all the greybeards manage to go right out the door, perhaps because I make a quick 1hour wait right as they move towards the door. But once I get out into the courtyard I end up crashing after 30 - 120 seconds, it is not a specific point but it is after a specific amount of time, so I can get through the quest by making sure to save every so often, reload the save and then continue until the quest is done and then I can jump, run around, and act spastic with no CTD. We share a lot of mods, and there are quite a few I can exclude, maybe. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b RSkyrimChildren.esm 12 c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 13 d ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 14 e WhiterunHoldForest.esp 15 f Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 16 10 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp 17 11 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 18 12 Cutting Room Floor.esp RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp 19 13 SkyUI_SE.esp 20 14 FNIS.esp 21 15 SLAnimLoader.esp 22 16 SLSO.esp 23 17 SexLabDefeat.esp 24 18 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 25 19 AnubAnimObj.esp 26 1a DW.esp 27 1b SLALAnimObj.esp 28 1c S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp 29 1d MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp 30 1e Book Covers Skyrim.esp 31 1f Solitude Expansion.esp 32 20 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp 33 21 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp 34 22 MoreNastyCritters.esp YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp WeightLessTrueAll.esp 35 23 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 36 24 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 37 25 OpulentThievesGuild.esp 38 26 morthal.esp 39 27 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 40 28 Immersive Weapons.esp 41 29 Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp 42 2a Mortal Enemies.esp RealisticSpeedMovementWalkingSE.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp 43 2b FNISSexyMove.esp 44 2c Mors Feminine Females - All.esp 45 2d TKDodge.esp 46 2e Ecotone Dual Sheath.esp 47 2f Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp 48 30 RSChildren.esp 49 31 Snowy AF Windhelm.esp 50 32 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 51 33 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 52 34 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 53 35 Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp 54 36 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 55 37 SOSRaceMenu.esp 56 38 XPMSE.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L3.esp 57 39 TrueStormsSE.esp TSCoT.esp 58 3a dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Mortal Enemies - Smilodon Patch.esp 59 3b Mortal Enemies Patch - Realistic Animals Predators.esp 60 3c UltimateCombat.esp 61 3d OwnCivilWar.esp 62 3e Holidays.esp 63 3f The Forest of Riverwood Project.esp Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp 64 40 PeopleAreStrangers.esp 65 41 SimplyKnock.esp 66 42 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 67 43 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 68 44 Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp 69 45 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 70 46 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp AFT - Dragonborn Patch.esp 71 47 AFT - USSEP Patch.esp 72 48 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp 73 49 imp_helm_legend.esp 74 4a Kato's Riverwood.esp 75 4b Perfect Whiterun.esp 76 4c Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 77 4d Kato's Falkreath.esp 78 4e SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp 79 4f Whitewatch Tower.esp 80 50 Cloaks.esp 81 51 Inigo.esp 82 52 Hunterborn.esp 83 53 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 84 54 SofiaFollower.esp 85 55 LADX_SSE.esp 86 56 SpousesEnhancedSE.esp 87 57 HoldBorderBanners.esp 88 58 Gildergreen Regrown.esp 89 59 FNISspells.esp 90 5a VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp 91 5b Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp 92 5c Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp Hunterborn MCM.esp 93 5d Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp YOT - Hunterborn.esp 94 5e MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 95 5f 1nivWICCloaks.esp 96 60 WetandCold.esp Proper Aiming.esp 97 61 AutoHarvestSE.esp 98 62 Ars Metallica.esp 99 63 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 100 64 Dr_Bandolier.esp 101 65 SmartCast_1_0.esp 102 66 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp 103 67 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 104 68 sandboxcylinderheight.esp 105 69 Realistic-Voice.esp 106 6a FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp 107 6b Unleveled_Items.esp BetterGauldurAmulet.esp 108 6c CoinPurseIncrease.esp 109 6d OrdinatorJzargoDialogueFix.esp 110 6e Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 111 6f ClassicClasses.esp CCB_AndromedaPatch.esp 112 70 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 113 71 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 114 72 Heart Breaker SE.esp 115 73 VioLens SE.esp 116 74 Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp 117 75 HornyCreatures.esp 118 76 KS Dragon Overhaul.esp 119 77 Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp 120 78 The Ordinary Women.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Wives.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp 121 79 Toccata as Elisif.esp 122 7a Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 123 7b Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 124 7c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 125 7d RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp 126 7e Hunters Not Bandits.esp 127 7f RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp 128 80 RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp 129 81 Bashed Patch, 0.esp I have had this crash throughout a couple of games, I have uninstalled the game, deleted everything related done a throughout cleaning only to reinstall the game and install with new mods and leaving others out. VioLens and Heart Breaker are not the culprits I imagine, I had the CTDs despite not having those installed in a previous game. Campfire is probably not the culprit either, I did have it in a previous game but no longer. Holidays is also not a culprit, as that one is also a recent install. Moonlight Tales is probably not the culprit either. Most likely not Fantasy Soundtrack Project either The mods which we share which has been a constant in my load order (While I get the crashes) are: Spoiler Unofficial patch. Cutting Room Floor. Ecotone. Sexlab, Sexlab aroused and Sexlab defeat. Schlongs (I am using the full version though, so that one is not a cullprit either I think) FNIS (duh) Sofia and Inigo (I tried sending followers away at some point, did not work) Wildcat Ordinator (Only the perks, not bruma) XPMSE. SkyUI. Immersive armor and weapons. Mortal Enemies. TKDodge. Imperious. Apocalypse. Immersive Citizens. AFT. Alternate Start. Bijin series, including Serana and Valerica It seems there is a basis now, I am not certain if or which one of these could make a mess of the papyrus scripting up in High Hrothgar. Spoiler TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\guids.ini, error 2 *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for inputhost.dll *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nvwgf2umx.dll *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for nvwgf2umx.dll *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for XAudio2_7.dll *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for JContainers64.dll *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for JContainers64.dll *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for msvcp140.dll TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : e:\dump_analysis\program\triage\modclass.ini, error 2 GetUrlPageData2 (WinHttp) failed: 12029. *** The OS name list needs to be updated! Unknown Windows version: 10.0 *** FAULTING_IP: SkyrimSE+12689db 00007ff6`420c89db 3b4a18 cmp ecx,dword ptr [rdx+18h] EXCEPTION_RECORD: ffffffffffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff) ExceptionAddress: 00007ff6420c89db (SkyrimSE+0x00000000012689db) ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation) ExceptionFlags: 00000000 NumberParameters: 2 Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000 Parameter[1]: 000000000000001d Attempt to read from address 000000000000001d DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ PROCESS_NAME: SkyrimSE.exe ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s". EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s". EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000000 EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2: 000000000000001d READ_ADDRESS: 000000000000001d FOLLOWUP_IP: SkyrimSE+12689db 00007ff6`420c89db 3b4a18 cmp ecx,dword ptr [rdx+18h] FAULTING_THREAD: 0000000000001f38 PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS: NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ BUGCHECK_STR: APPLICATION_FAULT_NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ IP_ON_HEAP: ffffffffffffffff The fault address in not in any loaded module, please check your build's rebase log at \bin\build_logs\timebuild\ntrebase.log for module which may contain the address if it were loaded. FRAME_ONE_INVALID: 1 LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from ffffffffffffffff to 00007ff6420c89db STACK_TEXT: 00000032`d1bfe5e0 ffffffff`ffffffff : ffffffff`fffffffe 00000178`01808120 00000178`0ca14774 00000178`0c7963c0 : SkyrimSE+0x12689db 00000032`d1bfe5e8 ffffffff`fffffffe : 00000178`01808120 00000178`0ca14774 00000178`0c7963c0 00007ff6`420bd652 : 0xffffffff`ffffffff 00000032`d1bfe5f0 00000178`01808120 : 00000178`0ca14774 00000178`0c7963c0 00007ff6`420bd652 00000178`01808120 : 0xffffffff`fffffffe 00000032`d1bfe5f8 00000178`0ca14774 : 00000178`0c7963c0 00007ff6`420bd652 00000178`01808120 00000000`00000003 : 0x178`01808120 00000032`d1bfe600 00000178`0c7963c0 : 00007ff6`420bd652 00000178`01808120 00000000`00000003 00000032`d1bfe710 : 0x178`0ca14774 00000032`d1bfe608 00007ff6`420bd652 : 00000178`01808120 00000000`00000003 00000032`d1bfe710 00000000`00000000 : 0x178`0c7963c0 00000032`d1bfe610 00000178`01808120 : 00000000`00000003 00000032`d1bfe710 00000000`00000000 00000032`d1bfea00 : SkyrimSE+0x125d652 00000032`d1bfe618 00000000`00000003 : 00000032`d1bfe710 00000000`00000000 00000032`d1bfea00 00007ff6`420bdaaa : 0x178`01808120 00000032`d1bfe620 00000032`d1bfe710 : 00000000`00000000 00000032`d1bfea00 00007ff6`420bdaaa 00000178`00009f38 : 0x3 00000032`d1bfe628 00000000`00000000 : 00000032`d1bfea00 00007ff6`420bdaaa 00000178`00009f38 00000179`17794340 : 0x32`d1bfe710 SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0 SYMBOL_NAME: SkyrimSE+12689db FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner MODULE_NAME: SkyrimSE IMAGE_NAME: SkyrimSE.exe DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 5aba8acb STACK_COMMAND: ~14s; .ecxr ; kb FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ_c0000005_SkyrimSE.exe!Unknown BUCKET_ID: X64_APPLICATION_FAULT_NULL_CLASS_PTR_READ_SkyrimSE+12689db WATSON_STAGEONE_URL: http://watson.microsoft.com/StageOne/SkyrimSE_exe/1_0_0_0/5aba8acb/SkyrimSE_exe/1_0_0_0/5aba8acb/c0000005/012689db.htm?Retriage=1 Followup: MachineOwner Loaded Module List Spoiler start end module name 00000000`00400000 00000000`0041e000 XINPUT1_3 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00007ffe`4ec69000 ole32 ole32.dll 00007ffe`4ece0000 00007ffe`4edff000 rpcrt4 rpcrt4.dll 00007ffe`4f080000 00007ffe`4f12e000 kernel32 kernel32.dll 00007ffe`4f130000 00007ffe`4f2bf000 user32 user32.dll 00007ffe`4f2c0000 00007ffe`4f31b000 sechost sechost.dll 00007ffe`4f320000 00007ffe`4f3e5000 oleaut32 oleaut32.dll 00007ffe`4f3f0000 00007ffe`4f418000 gdi32 gdi32.dll 00007ffe`4f420000 00007ffe`4f48c000 ws2_32 ws2_32.dll 00007ffe`4f490000 00007ffe`4f498000 psapi psapi.dll 00007ffe`4f4a0000 00007ffe`4f8ee000 setupapi setupapi.dll 00007ffe`4f8f0000 00007ffe`4f91d000 imm32 imm32.dll 00007ffe`4fac0000 00007ffe`4fb5e000 clbcatq clbcatq.dll 00007ffe`4fb60000 00007ffe`4fe67000 combase combase.dll 00007ffe`4fe70000 00007ffe`4fe8d000 imagehlp imagehlp.dll 00007ffe`4fe90000 00007ffe`4ff2d000 msvcrt msvcrt.dll 00007ffe`4ff30000 00007ffe`4ff38000 nsi nsi.dll 00007ffe`4ff40000 00007ffe`4ffe1000 advapi32 advapi32.dll 00007ffe`500d0000 00007ffe`50176000 SHCore SHCore.dll 00007ffe`501b0000 00007ffe`50390000 ntdll ntdll.dll Anyway, the CTDs are fairly similar, very close to one another so hopefully this will help. Time to get to work with some mod disabling, enabling. Someone smarter than me can probably go into more detail.
khumak Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 In case it helps, out of the shared mods you listed I am using these ones and I don't crash anymore: Unofficial patch. Cutting Room Floor. Sexlab, Sexlab aroused and Sexlab defeat. Schlongs (light in my case) FNIS (duh) Sofia Wildcat Ordinator XPMSE. SkyUI. Immersive armor and weapons. Imperious. Immersive Citizens. AFT. Alternate Start. I do still get rare crashes randomly about once every 8-12 hours of played time but I suspect that is just some unresolved instability in SSE Engine Fixes. I had to disable the waterflow and cosavecleaner features or that one makes me crash frequently. With just those 2 features disabled and the rest of the settings at the default my game is very stable.
Camila Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 If anyone is still having this problem it's ralated with XPMSSE v4.3. You can fix it by loading a save before you entered High Hrothgar, type in the console "coc qasmoke" , and then go to the XPMSE MCM and mark as checked "Disable Style Cloak Spell". Then teleport back to wherever you want using the coc command again (like coc riverwood). Now you'll be able to progress the quest and obtain whirlwind sprint shout. After this point on the quest you could enable the Style Cloak Spell again and it shouldn't crash at High Hrothgar anymore.
Sailing Rebel Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 I had this exact CTD while following the greybeards out into the courtyard. It was very consistent so I made a save in the seconds before and started systematically disabling mods and reloading. The culprit was Immersive Sounds Compendium.
Baron Of Hell Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 For me it was XPMSE. I renamed the human skeleton until I got past it. Obvious you have to make sure you are using vanilla gear that don't rely on the skeleton or you will crash. Easy to do if using MO2.
Baron Of Hell Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 Just now, Baron Of Hell said: For me it was XPMSE. I renamed the human skeleton until I got past it. Obvious you have to make sure you are using vanilla gear that don't rely on the skeleton or you will crash. Easy to do if using MO2. I just realized I could have just unchecked xpmse mod instead of renaming the skeleton. We all have bad days.
khumak Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 4:32 PM, Sailing Rebel said: I had this exact CTD while following the greybeards out into the courtyard. It was very consistent so I made a save in the seconds before and started systematically disabling mods and reloading. The culprit was Immersive Sounds Compendium. I have found ISC to be very unstable myself as well which is why I don't use it anymore. In my testing I found that a large number of weapon draw and sheath sounds for specific weapons cause CTDs. Removing the sound change for that weapon eliminates the CTD but there are so many of them that it just wasn't worth it to me. If you use that mod and crash frequently in combat that's probably why.
Zandhorn Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Just got past the same CTD by leaving follower outside and restarting the game without XPMSE (uncheck in NMM plugins) for the duration of the greybeards initiation. Restart with XPMSE enabled after the ordeal. Problem solved.
Groovtama Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Update to the latest version 4.50, the problems are already fixed there.
wtftesnexus Posted August 19, 2018 Posted August 19, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 1:33 PM, Camila said: If anyone is still having this problem it's ralated with XPMSSE v4.3. You can fix it by loading a save before you entered High Hrothgar, type in the console "coc qasmoke" , and then go to the XPMSE MCM and mark as checked "Disable Style Cloak Spell". Then teleport back to wherever you want using the coc command again (like coc riverwood). Now you'll be able to progress the quest and obtain whirlwind sprint shout. After this point on the quest you could enable the Style Cloak Spell again and it shouldn't crash at High Hrothgar anymore. I was just having this problem. After dozens of hours in the game running flawlessly, I made it to Hrothgar only to get CTDs. Searching led me to this and disabling the Style Cloak Spell for the duration of my initial trip to Hrothgar fixed it. I was running XPMSE v4.33. After confirming I was out and no more CTDs, I upgraded to XPMSE v4.51 and am proceeding from here. Just wanted to post here to confirm it in case anyone else stumbles across this very specific issue. Thanks to all, including you, Groovtama, you glorious modder!
Varsookish Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 My game is stable so far, including fast travel, but I crash at about the same place, before I even get close to the stairs into High Hrothgar. I'll try disabling XPMSEE and see what it does. I'm using version 4.15.
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