Bednarik Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 My recent Upgrades to my Computer... Windows 10 (64-Bit) Intel Core i5 - 8600 K CPU @3.60 GHz (6 CPUs) ~3.6 GHz 16384 MB RAM 5355 MB Used, 13377 MB Available Direct X 12 NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1070 1623 MB Total Memory 8088 VRAM 8150 MB Shared 40 Active Mods Installed (NMM) TES5Edit LOOT Steam Install FNIS Mod in Question is Sex Slaves. I get up to 75 seconds to open a door or zone into another area. Find it odd that on the first 2 or 3 times of zoning in, those load times r just a few seconds as should b but from then on I get these rather long load times. What might b the cause of this? A Speed Test on my ISP is about 12 MgB/second to my Home. That shouldn't b a factor on Oldrim though, or is it? I hear speeds up to 100 r available depending on ones package.
Testificateguy Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 Internet speeds don't factor in in any way when loading games. What matters is here 1) PC Specs 2) Drive speed 3) Modlist . Since your PC specs are just fine, and since the first few loads are fine as well before it bogs down, I'll assume it's the Oldrim memory issue. I don't believe it is a Sex Slaves mod issue, though I could be wrong (I don't use said mod myself). Since you're on Oldrim I'm going to asume that it's a memory related bug, so be sure you setup ENB/ENBoost (ENBoost is the non-graphical part of ENB, configured in ENBlocal.ini) then make sure you also setup Crash Fixes by Meh, and enable the memory allocator patch in the .ini file (be sure to grab the SKSE Preloader while you're at it, it's required). Good luck.
skyrimowy Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7901 this mod can help - faster loadings if you have ENB you can boost by even 20 seconds if you have load times 75 o_O you may also find mod that delete permamently loading screens 3d pictures [you have only black screen with your level] If you have some money - buy SSD disk and install skyrim on it - but I give you some lines that you can add in skyrim.ini - they should help for faster loadings especially from [backgroundload] skyrim.ini [General] iPreloadSizeLimit=4194304000 bMultiThreadMovement=1 bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1 bUseThreadedMorpher=1 bUseThreadedTempEffects=1 bRunHighLevelProcess=1 bUseThreadedBlood=1 bUseThreadedTextures=1 bUseThreadedMeshes=1 bUseThreadedLOD=1 bUseThreadedAI=1 uStaticNeverFade=1 bUseHardDriveCache=0 fFlickeringLightDistance=8192 iPostProcessMillisecondsLoadingQueuedPriority=5 [BackgroundLoad] bUseMultiThreadedFaceGen=1 bBackgroundCellLoads=1 bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1 bUseBackgroundFileLoader=1 bSelectivePurgeUnusedOnFastTravel=1 [Display] iShaderPackageMemoryCap=2147483648 bCompileOnRender=1 bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry=0 [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=1.2 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.2 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0 bEnableLogging=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 [Animation] bInitiallyLoadAllClips=1 fWeaponChangeClearTime=0.1000 bMultiThreadBoneUpdate=1 bUseSPUGenerate=1 [Pathfinding] bBackgroundNavmeshUpdate=1 bUseTaskletsToRecomputeBounds=1
Bednarik Posted June 8, 2018 Author Posted June 8, 2018 Thnx for sharing this info guys. I'll certainly look into trying out ur suggestions. So, u guys don't c a problem with the RAM I have? Also, I don't use ENB.
yatol Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 8:26 AM, Testificateguy said: Since you're on Oldrim I'm going to asume that it's a memory related bug funny those experts that have no idea what they are talking.... if there was a memory problem, he wouldn't have long load time, he would ctd as for why his load time are long... nobody can guess the cause from the useless stuff above if you put stuff in a hearthfire house garden, the stupid script with onlocationchange, run everytime you change cell that king of useless crap add to the loading time bethesda waste your performance doing stuff the stupid way, mods do the same of course, and the more crap you have, the bigger the performance waste you have tree texture in your ram, game don't reload it when it load the same tree somewhere else you don't need mods to break stuff, you can do it just by reloading a save you die, quest x script is in the ram, game don't reload it, even if some value were updated since the save and your death and of course, when the game try to load the broken stuff... don't expect it to work if the problem appear with that sex slave mod, why not get rid of it to check if problem disappear without that mod? then either you fix that mod, either you forget it, either you play with your performance waste
skyrimowy Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 oh god GTX 1070 no ENB... with this rig it is a sin hope that you repair your long loading screens and install enb
Grey Cloud Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 8 hours ago, yatol said: funny those experts that have no idea what they are talking.... if there was a memory problem, he wouldn't have long load time, he would ctd as for why his load time are long... nobody can guess the cause from the useless stuff above Exactly. If it was a memory problem it would not just be Sex Slaves which was affected would it. Getting an SSD wont do fuck all for loading times. The files are being loaded from RAM. My current Quicksave.ess is 15.4MB on a SATA drive. How much time do you think an SSD would shave of the loading time? I've said this before about getting ini settings of some muppet on a thread. Unless your machine is set up exactly the same as the poster you are likely to cause problems rather than solve them. Follow S.T.E.P. or one of the other good, reliable guides and get yourself a stable installation. A load order would be a good start if we are to fix the problem.
skyrimowy Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 SSD work on all games - loadings cells, maps, things, other shits SSD on skyrim - modded graph and propably some amount of other mods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q22lXBbbdw and for skyrim SE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt67PU8gyb8 I based on some great tutorials how to INI on shit computers etc. and I collected them to my INI - they work also for high-end machines you don't believe on them? ok don't use... I give him proposition - I tell him that he CAN not MUST use them He can try by yourself one by one, if not works just delete them https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2ol0bq/ultimate_skyrimini_disambiguation/ explanations to some INI lines from my above post... I try to help as much I can Regards
Grey Cloud Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, skyrimowy said: SSD work on all games - loadings cells, maps, things, other shits I didn't say otherwise. My points were that a) an SSD wont cure the problem which is causing the slow saves and b) even if the SSD does improve the load times, the difference will likely be measured in nanoseconds and therefore not noticable. 1 hour ago, skyrimowy said: I based on some great tutorials how to INI And I recommend that people go to the great tutorials and guides. It is not only the PC hardware which is the issue here although video card setting can be important. I have made lots of changes to the settings in my various ini files but I do not recommend them to anyone else. Personally, I would never get anything technical from reddit.
yatol Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, skyrimowy said: I try to help as much I can why not read the op post then? On 6/7/2018 at 7:32 AM, Bednarik said: Mod in Question is Sex Slaves. no idea what his problem with that mod is as for the blabla about ssd, from an oblivion topic Now the results (in second): cold boot HDD L 92.5395 90.6946 93.7892 HDD z 5.4664 5.4246 5.4064 SSD L 3.7257 3.7292 3.7200 SSD z 5.1564 5.1884 5.1570 => loose files in SSD was the best. zipfile in HDD was about 17 times faster than loose files in HDD. after cached HDD L 0.5387 0.5383 0.5439 HDD z 3.7878 3.7912 3.7899 SSD L 0.5418 0.5443 0.5425 SSD z 3.8041 3.7941 3.7983 => loose files was 7 times faster when cached, regardless of being HDD or SSD. after flushed HDD L 88.6588 89.9364 96.7789 HDD z 5.4158 5.4082 5.4385 SSD L 3.5461 3.4610 3.5147 SSD z 5.1802 5.1620 5.1692 => I think I can safely tell that RAMMap is working as intended. hdd will only become a problem if you unzip all mod bsa, overwriting the files from previous mods to create a huge fragmented mess
Bednarik Posted June 8, 2018 Author Posted June 8, 2018 3 hours ago, yatol said: why not read the op post then? no idea what his problem with that mod is as for the blabla about ssd, from an oblivion topic Now the results (in second): cold boot HDD L 92.5395 90.6946 93.7892 HDD z 5.4664 5.4246 5.4064 SSD L 3.7257 3.7292 3.7200 SSD z 5.1564 5.1884 5.1570 => loose files in SSD was the best. zipfile in HDD was about 17 times faster than loose files in HDD. after cached HDD L 0.5387 0.5383 0.5439 HDD z 3.7878 3.7912 3.7899 SSD L 0.5418 0.5443 0.5425 SSD z 3.8041 3.7941 3.7983 => loose files was 7 times faster when cached, regardless of being HDD or SSD. after flushed HDD L 88.6588 89.9364 96.7789 HDD z 5.4158 5.4082 5.4385 SSD L 3.5461 3.4610 3.5147 SSD z 5.1802 5.1620 5.1692 => I think I can safely tell that RAMMap is working as intended. hdd will only become a problem if you unzip all mod bsa, overwriting the files from previous mods to create a huge fragmented mess Thnx for sharing this info guys. I'll certainly look into trying out ur suggestions. So, u guys don't c a problem with the RAM I have? Also, I don't use ENB. Edit: Now I can't tell what to do. Mind giving me solutions more precise to the topic? Thnx
Grey Cloud Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bednarik said: Mind giving me solutions more precise to the topic? Post your load order. Read the S.T.E.P. guide and install ENBoost. Deactivate Sex Slaves start a new game and see what happens.
assassin394 Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 Are you using SSD or HDD? 1-2 mins loading time is normal for Skyrim heavy modded on HDD.
Grey Cloud Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 12 hours ago, assassin394 said: Are you using SSD or HDD? 1-2 mins loading time is normal for Skyrim heavy modded on HDD. Did you bother to actually read any of the posts here? Do you have any empirical data to support that assertation? One can have a heavily modded Skyrim and not have slow loading. One can have a lightly modded or unmodded Skyrim and have slow loading.
Bednarik Posted June 10, 2018 Author Posted June 10, 2018 In my first post above, I stated I use LOOT. I believe that team sorts mod quite well. I have 45 Active Mods with 3832 animations. I wouldn't call that a heavily modded game. I don't even know what SSD or HDD is. Game was running just fine b4 I installed Sex Slaves. I've had difficulty with getting other LL mods to work. Mods like Captured Dreams, Whiterun Brothel, & Sanquine's Debauchery. Those all on a system with less specs than the one I am using now. Sex Slaves has less mod requirements than those others, so I started with Sex Slaves. I am satisfied with Captured Dreams & Sanquine as I got far enough along to c how it would play out. Whiterun Brothel ...not so much. The door to Brothel only opened up for me twice but something else would go wrong while inside. It finally got to the point that the front door wouldn't open at all. That is when I had a custom-built computer designed. I think one can c that I am not happy about this computer's performance with a Mod like Sex Slaves as I'll have virtually no chance to get Brothel to work if it can't handle Sex Slaves. You'll just have to forgive my venting here. Was only hoping that some1 would say I had that problem too & this is what I had to do to fix it. I do appreciate the input but one can also c why I might b hesitate to try certain suggestions when some1 else says ...go ahead & try that and wind up with even more problems to fix.
yatol Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Bednarik said: The door to Brothel only opened up for me twice but something else would go wrong while inside. It finally got to the point that the front door wouldn't open at all. That is when I had a custom-built computer designed. I think one can c that I am not happy about this computer's performance with a Mod like Sex Slaves that's replacing your car motor by a ferrarri motor, when it don't move because there's no wheels if those mods don't work, don't install them if you can't get them to work, that's all and don't expect someone to find out mod x don't work because of a conflict with mod y, nobody can guess that
Grey Cloud Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 I told you what to do in post #12. You evidently don't know a lot about I.T. so it's a fair bet that you don't know a lot about modding Skyrim. There is a long learning curve involved with modding Skyrim which is why I suggested reading and following the S.T.E.P. guide. You need to learn how to walk before you can run. Learn how to get yourself a stable installation of Skyrim and then you can think about installing every sex mod on LL.
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