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Unecessary Drama


Reitanna

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LoversLab is supposed to be for adult content, so you'd expect the content to be NSFW. That's why, when someone posts something SFW, you automatically wonder why, because the creator has every right to post it to sites that don't allow NSFW stuff. It's not a crime to wonder, and it's not a crime to ask.

 

"Out of curiosity, why did you post this to LoversLab? I don't see anything NSFW. o_O"

 

Does that sound rude? Does that sound like I have a problem with the fact that it was posted to this site? When a question begins with, "out of curiosity," it's obvious that the person asking the question is just that: curious. It doesn't hurt anyone. I mean, if you say, "out of curiosity, why are you such an asshole?" that's obviously insulting, but if you ask, "out of curiosity, why do you prefer dark chocolate over milk chocolate?" then it's a reasonable question that invites a reasonable answer. An answer to the chocolate question could be, "well, I find milk chocolate is too sweet for me because I have a sensitive palette. Dark chocolate is more bitter, but it's a good balance for my taste buds." See? Easy. But if the answer is, "um, because I like it better? That's a stupid question! Why do you care? Does it bother you that I like dark chocolate more? Does it offend you or something? Don't ask that ever again," then you're left standing there with the thought, "woah... where did that come from? What did I do wrong?"

 

But that's exactly what I got from a creator who I will not name. A creator whose stuff I have thoroughly enjoyed, who I think is talented and has potential. I did not expect this creator to behave in a way that a young child would behave. To the question I asked, I could form an answer that is civil based on the information they provided in their explosion. The answer could be as follows:

 

"Well, this is actually the only site I go to for The Sims CC, and people have asked me about this specific set, so I just decided to share it here. It's easier because I don't have accounts on any of the SFW sites. It saves time and energy."

 

Instead I got:

 

"Im not visiting other sites with sims stuff and because some people looks for it and ask here at LL I put it here. Sims 4 has not adult / non adult sections and ............. hmm realy dont know what another say or wrote ............. because your stupid question is ............... nothing more to say . No ideas how defend this upload. That why I upload it here and just for your quiet sleeping I add to titul non adult stuff . OK?"

 

I'm sitting here at my desk, first trying to decipher what the hell this reply said, and second, having to force my mouth shut, as it had fallen agape at how hostile that was. I'm hoping that this person's first language isn't English, because if it is, then this kind of typing leads me to believe this person should not be on this site. If English is not their first language, I can understand, and perhaps there was some kind of misunderstanding because of the language barrier. I responded trying to reason with them (I'm not going to type out my reply because it's long and, for some reason, I can't paste text on this site, and it bugs the hell out of me), but it's almost like this person wants to cause drama. So right here, I'm going to nitpick each part of the reply I received.

 

The first part offers a civil answer. They could've just left it at that, and my reply would've been, "oh, okay, cool!" But next, mentioning that TS4 isn't separated into adult and age appropriate content is irrelevant. I never said it should be separated. I personally separate my NSFW stuff in a different folder in my Mods because I stream on Twitch, so I need to remove all adult content so I don't run across something sexual in the video. That's my choice, of course, but I never brought that up, nor did I need to. This part of the reply had nothing to do with my question.

 

Dots. Long ass ellipses. Why?

 

I'm not sure what "realy dont know what another say or wrote" is supposed to mean.

 

Dots.

 

My question was stupid? How was it stupid? I had sufficient knowledge about how things work and their purposes of the subject in question, and with these usual assets, I formed a reason to question something unusual. Let's come up with a scenario. In this world, common knowledge says that humans cannot be born with blue hair. We have "normal" hair colors in our genetics. But all of a sudden, a woman gives birth to a baby with blue hair, and everyone in the room stops, observes the unusual characteristic, and they all ask, "why is that baby's hair blue?" Is that a stupid question? No. Wanna know what a stupid question is? When I was in high school, we had a foreign exchange student from Australia in my choir class, and one of the girls (a stereotypical ditz) asked her, "does that mean you celebrate the Fourth of July in the winter?" Thank god someone was brave enough to tell her that Australians don't celebrate the Fourth of July since it's an American holiday. So please, tell me how my question was stupid? I am a person of above average intelligence, I always consider the factors before forming my questions.

 

Dots.

 

Nothing more to say, and then... apparently more to say. Next is what I translate to, "I don't really know how to defend this upload." Defend it from what? I don't see anyone trying to offend your upload. Anywhere. What? You think I'm offending it??? Um... how? Where is there any offensive remark in my question?

 

Finally... for my quiet sleeping? Okay, I'm going to try and translate this sentence... "Just so you can sleep at night, I specified that it's SFW in the title. Okay?" It actually took me some time to realize "titul" was supposed to be "title." So the assumption this person had was that it bothered me that it wasn't specified. I never said I was bothered by it, why would I be? Why be so freaking rude about nothing? I have many rules I personally live by, and one of the top ones is to never throw the first stone, meaning, never be unkind to someone who has not shown unkindness. So, it's common courtesy to not comment about how you don't like something if you don't like it. Obviously, if it bothered me, I'd just click away and let it be (unless it was harmful like that disgusting forced sex mod. Those people who support that kind of thing can rot in hell). I was genuinely curious about their intentions, but they're acting like I said this:

 

"Okay, um, why the HELL did you upload this HERE???? This crap isn't sexy! This site is for NSFW content! Oh my god! Wow, you're totally a loser, and you're stupid, didn't you know what this site is for?? Oh my god, I'm so offended by your upload for reasons I can't even come up with for this example! Whine whine whine!"

 

That's not right. Someone who posts something like that would deserve to be chewed out. But you know what? I didn't say that, nor did I think it. There is no possible way you could take my question and think that that's what it meant... unless you were a child who is overly defensive about their crappy macaroni picture.

 

After I tried to reason with Mr./Ms. Unreasonable, I received this reply:

 

"Not sorry. Why? Because I checked it , packed and again checked and bla bla bla over three hours and after I upload it came anyone and wrote why you post it here? Why you care? Is it taken some private space to you? Have you problem with any color,any item or you dont like it? Wrote it , be constructive ,critic or just joking but dont write anything like this next time."

 

WOW. First off, please, for the sake of all that is holy, tell me your first language isn't English! I had a pretty hard time deciphering this one, but I think I got the gist. Not sorry? Well, you should be. You were rude for absolutely no reason, you insulted me when you could've just given a simple answer. Okay, so you worked long and hard on this set, I know, I create stuff too. I know how frustrating it is when you make something and have to keep checking for problems, and even more frustrating when you find a problem and you have trouble fixing it. I never said your hard work was in vain, I never said it wasn't good, I never said you wasted your time, nor do I think any of those things. So you're basically saying, "I did all of this tedious work for three hours only to come see your comment asking why I posted it here?" Well... yes, but that's because I was the first to comment. You make it sound like seeing my comment added to the frustration of working so hard. Wait... that's exactly what you think, isn't it?

 

You ask why I care? "Is it taken some private space to you?" Not sure exactly what that means, but I think it's along the lines of, "is it taking up your private space?" I never fucking said it bothered me!! It never even crossed my mind! It's not taking up space, this website has tons of stuff and can hold tons more! It's not a site for just my content, that's illogical! Funnily enough, the world doesn't revolve around me! If it did, then... I dunno, I think I'd be pretty scared, and I'm already scared of the world as it is.

 

You claim I have a problem with it. Look, I used to watch Star Trek when I was a kid. I was too young to understand it, and I grew out of it, but I don't dislike it, it just doesn't interest me. I hate Star Wars, though, but even if you posted Star Wars stuff, I wouldn't have expressed my hatred of it to you because that's unfair. My boyfriend loves Star Wars, and we've been together, happily, for eight years. I like My little Pony, he hates it. This does not cause conflicts between us, so why should it cause conflicts between strangers? I don't have a problem with your content, and I don't have... didn't have a problem with you. I do now because your personality is toxic. "Hey, let's yell at this chick for no reason!" Yeah, that's logic alright.

 

The only conclusion I can come to is that this person is extremely sensitive and has lower self esteem than me, and I despise myself. I'm very sensitive, I suffer from Bipolar Disorder and PTSD, as well as Social Anxiety, which helps my self esteem drop even lower. I hardly leave my house because I'm terrified of people and cars, my number one rule in life is to NEVER TRUST ANYONE, and without my medication, I'm dangerous to myself and others. Well, I'm on damn good medication. There's nothing I can do to treat the PTSD because my health insurance doesn't seem to think it's a problem (step into my memories and nightmares, you damn bureaucrats, let's see how long you last), but my emotions are in better control than they ever have been in my twenty-six years of living. I even got new anxiety medication that's helping with my tremors and keeping me a little more calm when I leave the house. But even with all of this, I'm not as sensitive as this person. I'm not even sure if I'd behave this way off of my meds. Maybe I would, I don't know, it's been awhile since I've had to deal with that side of me.

 

So I mean... does this person also struggle with mental illness? If so, I feel the need to help them cope, but I feel like they'd just blow up at me again! I am genuinely hurt by this person's responses, and the fact that they ordered me not to ask that question again is even worse. For one, now that I know how you act, I probably won't want to comment on any of your future stuff. Honestly, if you don't calm down, apologize, and admit you were wrong, I'll want to block you because I cannot allow toxic people to interact with me for my health. For two, you can't tell me what to do! Technically, I could post whatever I wanted as long as it followed this site's rules! If I was a bad person, I'd break the rules anyway, get my account taken away from me, and then make a new account, but I'm a good person who follows the rules and always treats people nicely unless they have shown to me they are harmful, whether it's toward me or another person.

 

When on my medication, it takes a lot to get under the thick skin I've been able to build and keep strong while in my right mind. But when something hurts me, it's for a good reason, and it's not overreacting like I would off my meds. Actually, this person was overreacting so much, it gave me a headache because of how furrowed my brow was. I honestly feel like there's a golf ball in my throat. What did I do wrong? I mean... I do have a speech problem where it's hard for me to word things due to events in my childhood that prevented me from talking for most of my life, but even so, I cannot see how my question was intrusive at all. You know what I would've done if someone asked me that? Just answered it. That's all. I wouldn't feel offended, because I'd know the tone the person was using by the use of "out of curiosity" and the "o_O" face. No one has the excuse to respond in the way you did. And if you thought the question was offensive, why didn't you just ask if it was meant to be offensive? That way I could've told you that that was not my intention! But no, you just jumped down my throat as if I had called your mother a really nasty name.

 

Trust me, if I wanted to offend you, you'd know it. I don't beat around the bush, I say what's on my mind, and I lack empathy for a majority of people, so when I feel someone needs to be insulted, I don't feel bad about doing so. Because when I want someone to hurt, I WANT THEM TO HURT. But again, that's only if I feel they deserve it, and not for absolutely no reason... like what you did. Freaking out like you did just shows how society wants us all to keep our heads down and our mouths shut. You're probably just another sheep who bashes other people for speaking their minds. These are all assumptions, yes. See? This is what happens when you show poor character. People form an idea about you because of the impression you made, and even if you finally come to your senses and say sorry, it's likely that I'll never be able to see you as a good person, and I'll want to do everything in my power to avoid us ever exchanging words again. But why am I surprised? You're a human.

 

And humans are inherently evil.

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I wouldn't agree on humans being born evil. It's more that this tainted world forces them to adapt to cruelty, and envy towards others, causing the bitterness. All due to the ambitions of few, or rather their greed. Then again, majority chooses bad over good.

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My husband use to say that people are rotten in their essence and from time to time somehow small number of them manage to do the right things. The mentally of the people changed in last decade "thanks" to the new way off lifestyle that you can see in every commercial. My mom and dad, and my wife's mom and dad said that people today became more selfish, egoistic, wild and so on and so on. Hurting and humiliating others became the motto of the modern society all over the world. My husband noticed that too. I'm sorry for what happened to you. It's not the comfort, but must say: there will be even more of such cases because humanity is losing their moral compass and valuing others. "Me, mine, I" is the the way of how great majority lives today. I was like that before I met my husband to help me to change on better.

 

I sincerely wish you will have no more experiences like this once. :)

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My husband use to say that people are rotten in their essence and from time to time somehow small number of them manage to do the right things. The mentally of the people changed in last decade "thanks" to the new way off lifestyle that you can see in every commercial. My mom and dad, and my wife's mom and dad said that people today became more selfish, egoistic, wild and so on and so on. Hurting and humiliating others became the motto of the modern society all over the world. My husband noticed that too. I'm sorry for what happened to you. It's not the comfort, but must say: there will be even more of such cases because humanity is losing their moral compass and valuing others. "Me, mine, I" is the the way of how great majority lives today. I was like that before I met my husband to help me to change on better.

 

I sincerely wish you will have no more experiences like this once. :)

 

those people sound very intelligent. it takes a lot of time having your eyes open to realize the reality of the world. humans are born evil, our instincts are to destroy and cause harm. for those of us who know better and try to suppress those instincts, I call "domesticated," because we are animals, and like other domesticated species, we have had our behaviors changed so that we could exist with one another with little to no conflict, but there are some instincts we just cannot suppress, like how a domesticated rabbit can't keep itself from fleeing from something unknown, even if they've never been in a situation where they're being hunted. too many people in our society are optimists, which I find to be a weakness because it makes you blind to the world, I call it a blindfold. those of us who have experienced the worst of humanity first hand wonder how all of these people can believe such good things about our society and our world as a whole. humans are going to be the end of the world, we'll destroy ourselves just like we've destroyed the species that were meant to be here. we're not even part of the circle of life or the food chain anymore, we're just this planet's enemy. sorry for the rant, this whole issue has been depressing me all day.

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My husband use to say that people are rotten in their essence and from time to time somehow small number of them manage to do the right things. The mentally of the people changed in last decade "thanks" to the new way off lifestyle that you can see in every commercial. My mom and dad, and my wife's mom and dad said that people today became more selfish, egoistic, wild and so on and so on. Hurting and humiliating others became the motto of the modern society all over the world. My husband noticed that too. I'm sorry for what happened to you. It's not the comfort, but must say: there will be even more of such cases because humanity is losing their moral compass and valuing others. "Me, mine, I" is the the way of how great majority lives today. I was like that before I met my husband to help me to change on better.

 

I sincerely wish you will have no more experiences like this once. :)

 

those people sound very intelligent. it takes a lot of time having your eyes open to realize the reality of the world. humans are born evil, our instincts are to destroy and cause harm. for those of us who know better and try to suppress those instincts, I call "domesticated," because we are animals, and like other domesticated species, we have had our behaviors changed so that we could exist with one another with little to no conflict, but there are some instincts we just cannot suppress, like how a domesticated rabbit can't keep itself from fleeing from something unknown, even if they've never been in a situation where they're being hunted. too many people in our society are optimists, which I find to be a weakness because it makes you blind to the world, I call it a blindfold. those of us who have experienced the worst of humanity first hand wonder how all of these people can believe such good things about our society and our world as a whole. humans are going to be the end of the world, we'll destroy ourselves just like we've destroyed the species that were meant to be here. we're not even part of the circle of life or the food chain anymore, we're just this planet's enemy. sorry for the rant, this whole issue has been depressing me all day.

 

 

You won't believe how much you and my husband share the same opinion about humanity. One he wrote somewhere on LL (I asked him and he doesn't remember when and where he did it), but he said almost exactly the same thing. He wrote a post about getting the flayer and spam mails from "Save the planet" association. He was upset with their suggestions what can he do as an individual to save the planet. He received dozens of their spam mails daily until he got pissed off and send them the letter saying that planet can be saved only if the human race will be entirety waste out and that we are the ones who did all the evil against the planet and each other. Anyhow, uncivilized and rude behavior is main character line of some/many people. They like to hurt others and I know very well what are you talking about. My husband too. he was cruelly attacked and insulted by some individuals some time ago that he had to use the pills and wanted to leave LL. Thanks to some of his LL friends he stayed.

 

And, please, don't apologize. There's nothing to apologize about. :) You were hurt and you poured out your soul. And I'm glad you did it because I would never know what have you been through if you didn't write about it. Your experience helped me in some way to be careful about certain behaving on LL.  :)

 

Wish you all well and healed heart. :)

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My husband use to say that people are rotten in their essence and from time to time somehow small number of them manage to do the right things. The mentally of the people changed in last decade "thanks" to the new way off lifestyle that you can see in every commercial. My mom and dad, and my wife's mom and dad said that people today became more selfish, egoistic, wild and so on and so on. Hurting and humiliating others became the motto of the modern society all over the world. My husband noticed that too. I'm sorry for what happened to you. It's not the comfort, but must say: there will be even more of such cases because humanity is losing their moral compass and valuing others. "Me, mine, I" is the the way of how great majority lives today. I was like that before I met my husband to help me to change on better.

 

I sincerely wish you will have no more experiences like this once. :)

 

those people sound very intelligent. it takes a lot of time having your eyes open to realize the reality of the world. humans are born evil, our instincts are to destroy and cause harm. for those of us who know better and try to suppress those instincts, I call "domesticated," because we are animals, and like other domesticated species, we have had our behaviors changed so that we could exist with one another with little to no conflict, but there are some instincts we just cannot suppress, like how a domesticated rabbit can't keep itself from fleeing from something unknown, even if they've never been in a situation where they're being hunted. too many people in our society are optimists, which I find to be a weakness because it makes you blind to the world, I call it a blindfold. those of us who have experienced the worst of humanity first hand wonder how all of these people can believe such good things about our society and our world as a whole. humans are going to be the end of the world, we'll destroy ourselves just like we've destroyed the species that were meant to be here. we're not even part of the circle of life or the food chain anymore, we're just this planet's enemy. sorry for the rant, this whole issue has been depressing me all day.

 

 

You won't believe how much you and my husband share the same opinion about humanity. One he wrote somewhere on LL (I asked him and he doesn't remember when and where he did it), but he said almost exactly the same thing. He wrote a post about getting the flayer and spam mails from "Save the planet" association. He was upset with their suggestions what can he do as an individual to save the planet. He received dozens of their spam mails daily until he got pissed off and send them the letter saying that planet can be saved only if the human race will be entirety waste out and that we are the ones who did all the evil against the planet and each other. Anyhow, uncivilized and rude behavior is main character line of some/many people. They like to hurt others and I know very well what are you talking about. My husband too. he was cruelly attacked and insulted by some individuals some time ago that he had to use the pills and wanted to leave LL. Thanks to some of his LL friends he stayed.

 

And, please, don't apologize. There's nothing to apologize about. :) You were hurt and you poured out your soul. And I'm glad you did it because I would never know what have you been through if you didn't write about it. Your experience helped me in some way to be careful about certain behaving on LL.  :)

 

Wish you all well and healed heart. :)

 

 

it feels nice when you speak to kind people since they are so rare. thank you for your support. :)

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Often times people are so insecure they assume any question asked to them must be you accusing them of doing something wrong or moronic.

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« LoversLab is supposed to be for adult content, so you'd expect the content to be NSFW. That's why, when someone posts something SFW, you automatically wonder why, because the creator has every right to post it to sites that don't allow NSFW stuff. It's not a crime to wonder, and it's not a crime to ask. »

I several two elements of response :

— the first one is that as you said, people do not separate SFW from NSFW content aside from flagging it in the tags. A story can be made for adult readers without it constantly being filled with NSFW scenes, and still be consistent as a whole. A lot of LL story blogs are made that way : there aren't always sex scenes, but the overall story is still made for adults. :)

 

— the second one is that words, written ones, can be read differently from what one had in mind as you haven't got the voice tone or expressions to help you decipher possible hidden meanings to it. That's why smileys do help. And that's why « out of curiousity » could be interpreted as a reconsideration of the author's legitimacy on LL. Think about it, if someone replied to one of your posts « Out of curiosity, why are you posting this on the blog section ? » wouldn't you feel like you need to justify your presence here ? Would it be comfortable to do so ? Would it inspire sympathy towards the one asking ? I reassure you, I'm not asking this (and blogs are one of the areas where we have the most freedom to express ourselves), it's just an example to help figuring out what your interlocutor had in mind. :)

 

— the third one is individual factors. He reacted aggressively towards what he felt ambiguous, without ascertaining it was. There are worse offenses, but hey, even if LL is a place of tolerance, you shouldn't expect perfect reactions from everyone. ;)

 

— The fourth one... May be that someone just loves this community, and prefers it towards others ! :D

 

Anyway, interesting topic. :)

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« LoversLab is supposed to be for adult content, so you'd expect the content to be NSFW. That's why, when someone posts something SFW, you automatically wonder why, because the creator has every right to post it to sites that don't allow NSFW stuff. It's not a crime to wonder, and it's not a crime to ask. »

I several two elements of response :

— the first one is that as you said, people do not separate SFW from NSFW content aside from flagging it in the tags. A story can be made for adult readers without it constantly being filled with NSFW scenes, and still be consistent as a whole. A lot of LL story blogs are made that way : there aren't always sex scenes, but the overall story is still made for adults. :)

 

— the second one is that words, written ones, can be read differently from what one had in mind as you haven't got the voice tone or expressions to help you decipher possible hidden meanings to it. That's why smileys do help. And that's why « out of curiousity » could be interpreted as a reconsideration of the author's legitimacy on LL. Think about it, if someone replied to one of your posts « Out of curiosity, why are you posting this on the blog section ? » wouldn't you feel like you need to justify your presence here ? Would it be comfortable to do so ? Would it inspire sympathy towards the one asking ? I reassure you, I'm not asking this (and blogs are one of the areas where we have the most freedom to express ourselves), it's just an example to help figuring out what your interlocutor had in mind. :)

 

— the third one is individual factors. He reacted aggressively towards what he felt ambiguous, without ascertaining it was. There are worse offenses, but hey, even if LL is a place of tolerance, you shouldn't expect perfect reactions from everyone. ;)

 

— The fourth one... May be that someone just loves this community, and prefers it towards others ! :D

 

Anyway, interesting topic. :)

 

 

You stressed out some good point, but regardless, people should have basic manners. If I was asked I wouldn't let anyone to log in until he/she confirms that he read the forum rules by pressing "Agree". Being different or expecting the things gives right to no one to behave like a jerk. One of the Ashal's rules that I like is rule number 2: "Don't be a jerk. Seriously, does this really need to be said?" and rule 7: "Bickering, drama queens, or public calling out a fellow forum member will not be tolerated. Posts/threads perpetrating any sort of attack or drama will be removed on sight and warnings given to involved parties. This is a forum for helping each other build and mod, leave the drama at the door."

 

Yes I am for discipline and order :P   5779.gif

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You stressed out some good point, but regardless, people should have basic manners. (...)

 

Yes I am for discipline and order :P   5779.gif

Agreed. Security, courtesy should go first. :D
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You stressed out some good point, but regardless, people should have basic manners. (...)

 

Yes I am for discipline and order :P   5779.gif

Agreed. Security, courtesy should go first. :D

 

 

 

First, my apologies to Reitana for using her entry to say this but I want her to know something about the people like you. :)

 

Eva told me once about big misunderstanding between you and her in your correspondence. She said to me that you misunderstood that she called you and idiot. She was very thrilled with your reaction. Even then, when you understood you have been insulted, you reacted as true gentlemen and you was polite. It's not flattering when I'm saying: you are great model of good person and how to behave even in situations like yours and Eva's. We; Eva, Ivy and me learned a lot from you and you are model of how to behave to all of us. We admit that we aren't always like you, but we are trying. You have manners that many of us on LL do not have. That's why we respect you. Eva is crazy about you. I'm not but I like you. ;):P

 

Thank you.

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She said to me that you misunderstood that she called you and idiot. She was very thrilled with your reaction. Even then, when you understood you have been insulted, you reacted as true gentlemen and you was polite.

 

Thank you.

Your kind words do touch me, Prince, and so did the attitude of Eva when we cleared that misunderstanding out. I do not deserve any praise, though, and I believe you had to manage crisis way more acute than those I have been confronted to. Anyway, you have my respect as well. ;)

 

Regarding Reitanna, this little digression should only prove one thing : written words can be misunderstood greatly. So we should all be cautious when reacting to them I guess, and all have room for improvement in that area. :)

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« LoversLab is supposed to be for adult content, so you'd expect the content to be NSFW. That's why, when someone posts something SFW, you automatically wonder why, because the creator has every right to post it to sites that don't allow NSFW stuff. It's not a crime to wonder, and it's not a crime to ask. »

I several two elements of response :

— the first one is that as you said, people do not separate SFW from NSFW content aside from flagging it in the tags. A story can be made for adult readers without it constantly being filled with NSFW scenes, and still be consistent as a whole. A lot of LL story blogs are made that way : there aren't always sex scenes, but the overall story is still made for adults. :)

 

— the second one is that words, written ones, can be read differently from what one had in mind as you haven't got the voice tone or expressions to help you decipher possible hidden meanings to it. That's why smileys do help. And that's why « out of curiousity » could be interpreted as a reconsideration of the author's legitimacy on LL. Think about it, if someone replied to one of your posts « Out of curiosity, why are you posting this on the blog section ? » wouldn't you feel like you need to justify your presence here ? Would it be comfortable to do so ? Would it inspire sympathy towards the one asking ? I reassure you, I'm not asking this (and blogs are one of the areas where we have the most freedom to express ourselves), it's just an example to help figuring out what your interlocutor had in mind. :)

 

— the third one is individual factors. He reacted aggressively towards what he felt ambiguous, without ascertaining it was. There are worse offenses, but hey, even if LL is a place of tolerance, you shouldn't expect perfect reactions from everyone. ;)

 

— The fourth one... May be that someone just loves this community, and prefers it towards others ! :D

 

Anyway, interesting topic. :)

 

 

oh trust me, I did an entire rant about how text can be misinterpreted, but like I said in this blog, if someone asked ME that question, I'd see it for what it was. and if for some reason I didn't, I ALWAYS ask for clarification before I assume the person is trying to be insulting if they're not obviously being insulting. this is the best way to avoid conflict on the internet. "out of curiosity" is a docile subject unless followed by a hostile predicate, such as, "why are you an asshole?" but when partnered with a docile predicate, there should not be any offense taken. and I specifically used the "o_O" face as security to make absolutely certain the question could not be taken the wrong way. if the docile question was followed with a "T_T" face, it would play a different tune, and if I had used "XD" or "lol," it's sound like I was making fun of them. this is why I am so baffled, and convinced that the person is either not from an English speaking country, overly sensitive and self conscious, or a wee child who should not be on this site. I'm ruling out the child just because how can a kid be so good with textures? but from every perspective I look at it, it still confuses me. but Keltol mentioned (above your comment) that some people are so insecure, they take any question as accusatory. I actually used to be like that when I was a kid, since I wasn't on medication, especially when I hit puberty and my hormones were crazy. any time someone complimented me, I thought they were making fun of me. that's also why I'm wondering if this person has a depression disorder that messes with their opinions of themselves, because I know exactly how that feels. your input, though, is greatly appreciated. really, anyone choosing to be civil is appreciated.

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« LoversLab is supposed to be for adult content, so you'd expect the content to be NSFW. That's why, when someone posts something SFW, you automatically wonder why, because the creator has every right to post it to sites that don't allow NSFW stuff. It's not a crime to wonder, and it's not a crime to ask. »

I several two elements of response :

— the first one is that as you said, people do not separate SFW from NSFW content aside from flagging it in the tags. A story can be made for adult readers without it constantly being filled with NSFW scenes, and still be consistent as a whole. A lot of LL story blogs are made that way : there aren't always sex scenes, but the overall story is still made for adults. :)

 

— the second one is that words, written ones, can be read differently from what one had in mind as you haven't got the voice tone or expressions to help you decipher possible hidden meanings to it. That's why smileys do help. And that's why « out of curiousity » could be interpreted as a reconsideration of the author's legitimacy on LL. Think about it, if someone replied to one of your posts « Out of curiosity, why are you posting this on the blog section ? » wouldn't you feel like you need to justify your presence here ? Would it be comfortable to do so ? Would it inspire sympathy towards the one asking ? I reassure you, I'm not asking this (and blogs are one of the areas where we have the most freedom to express ourselves), it's just an example to help figuring out what your interlocutor had in mind. :)

 

— the third one is individual factors. He reacted aggressively towards what he felt ambiguous, without ascertaining it was. There are worse offenses, but hey, even if LL is a place of tolerance, you shouldn't expect perfect reactions from everyone. ;)

 

— The fourth one... May be that someone just loves this community, and prefers it towards others ! :D

 

Anyway, interesting topic. :)

 

 

 

 

 

« LoversLab is supposed to be for adult content, so you'd expect the content to be NSFW. That's why, when someone posts something SFW, you automatically wonder why, because the creator has every right to post it to sites that don't allow NSFW stuff. It's not a crime to wonder, and it's not a crime to ask. »

I several two elements of response :

— the first one is that as you said, people do not separate SFW from NSFW content aside from flagging it in the tags. A story can be made for adult readers without it constantly being filled with NSFW scenes, and still be consistent as a whole. A lot of LL story blogs are made that way : there aren't always sex scenes, but the overall story is still made for adults. :)

 

— the second one is that words, written ones, can be read differently from what one had in mind as you haven't got the voice tone or expressions to help you decipher possible hidden meanings to it. That's why smileys do help. And that's why « out of curiousity » could be interpreted as a reconsideration of the author's legitimacy on LL. Think about it, if someone replied to one of your posts « Out of curiosity, why are you posting this on the blog section ? » wouldn't you feel like you need to justify your presence here ? Would it be comfortable to do so ? Would it inspire sympathy towards the one asking ? I reassure you, I'm not asking this (and blogs are one of the areas where we have the most freedom to express ourselves), it's just an example to help figuring out what your interlocutor had in mind. :)

 

— the third one is individual factors. He reacted aggressively towards what he felt ambiguous, without ascertaining it was. There are worse offenses, but hey, even if LL is a place of tolerance, you shouldn't expect perfect reactions from everyone. ;)

 

— The fourth one... May be that someone just loves this community, and prefers it towards others ! :D

 

Anyway, interesting topic. :)

 

 

You stressed out some good point, but regardless, people should have basic manners. If I was asked I wouldn't let anyone to log in until he/she confirms that he read the forum rules by pressing "Agree". Being different or expecting the things gives right to no one to behave like a jerk. One of the Ashal's rules that I like is rule number 2: "Don't be a jerk. Seriously, does this really need to be said?" and rule 7: "Bickering, drama queens, or public calling out a fellow forum member will not be tolerated. Posts/threads perpetrating any sort of attack or drama will be removed on sight and warnings given to involved parties. This is a forum for helping each other build and mod, leave the drama at the door."

 

Yes I am for discipline and order :P   5779.gif

 

 

well said

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I agree with all of you since each of you gave very good arguments. Of course, my Prince's arguments are the best :)   No offense Triloque. I always support my husband and he's right about discipline and order. :)

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Honestly, I don't see the need to be upset about this. Sure, the person was rude, but that's like every day rudeness that's to be expected. You say you have thick skin and stream. I wonder what your stream chat looks like? I bet there's things 100x more rude than what happened here.

 

Basically the person you wrote to you considered you being rude. I know, what you're thinking why would they??? It was a perfectly innocent question. Let me give you an example from my life, every year I go to a serviceman to get my lawnmower checked up, get the blades sharpened etc. It's the same male technician in his fifties with quite a bit of ego. He ignores me after I come into his shop before he's done finishing up a step of whatever he is working on without replying to my salutation. He perceives me as the rude person, because I interrupted HIS work. In fact I think he considers greeting a person unnecessary, since there's a bell on the door and he knows I am there. It might take a couple of minutes with me just standing there before he recognizes I am there. Then, we play language courtesy games. I say I need something fixed up. He says he needs lots of things. And I am like ah I understand, that simple phrase actually insulted you!(I think that, I don't say it), Could you please fix this? It goes on like this, you get the point. At the end of the day, he fixes whatever I need fixed, he does his job well, he doesn't do unnecessary pricey repairs and he gives me a good price compared to other places. In short, he's a good person who is rude. I could go to a different place, same distance, where they will greet me and be socially pleasant and servile. They will do a worse job and charge me more. They are the bad people.

 

What happened to you? You asked an author a question, you don't consider it stupid but that's you. Can they think it's stupid or annoying? Absolutely.

 

1/ It's not related to their artwork. It's a question about the bureaucratic realities of getting the art to the public through websites. That in itself is enough to make your question a nuisance rather than a sign of appreciation that the author is happy to reply to. This will be enough for some people to give you a rude reply already.

2/ You already know the answer to your question. Your chocolate example is perfect. Whilst you don't know exactly why a person likes on type of chocolate over the other you can easily imagine what the answer will be as you did. I understand that to you "Well, I find milk chocolate is too sweet for me because I have a sensitive palette. Dark chocolate is more bitter, but it's a good balance for my taste buds." is a different answer to "um, because I like it better?". To some, especially men, the answer is the same. They feel like they can't relate to a person's sense of bitterness and sweetness because they are purely subjective and different to theirs. To them that answer is exactly the same as, "I like it better", which is why they would generally not ask the question for the purpose of receiving an answer on the topic. They think they know the answer (or the type). They might ask it to start a conversation or socialize, but they are not really interested in what the actual answer is. In that sense the question without context can seem manipulative.

2->3/ Some people will consider asking questions you already (kind of) know the answer to, to be rude. They will think you are wasting their time OR they start questioning what the motivation you have for asking your question is.

3->4a/ The person you were writing to is clearly not great at communicating in English, regardless of circumstances (not first language or any other reason). So you are making them go through a painful, effortful process of communicating to answer a question you (kind of) know the answer to. Who knows? Perhaps they do have a mental illness like you suggest. That's just more reason to be kind. They are not happy about having to make a lot of effort to answer what they perceive as a casually thrown conversational question. What good is their answer going to do to you? You didn't make your motivation clear.

3->4b/ In this case it seems like the author guessed you are suggesting their work doesn't belong here.

 

Your question is not stupid. I don't think it's stupid. However, from certain points of view, it can be seen as unnecessary, waste of time, inane or manipulative.

Perhaps you really wanted to know why the author uploads his work here. Maybe you are looking to upload works of your own and you are thinking what the best places are, and you ask him for advice as a person with experience, but you did not make your motivation clear. Maybe you did ask it just to start a conversation with the author and in fact you want something else from them. Maybe you did it to insult him. He can't know. He guessed you did it to insult him and reacted in that way. Now the ball is back in your court. Personally I try to be humble in these situations. My reaction if I had a good day would be: "Ah, ok my bad I did not express myself perfectly, left myself open to misinterpretation and now this person thinks I wanted to insult them" (honestly that happens to everyone, all the time, but it's good to acknowledge). The conversation is a disaster and I need to do my best to fix it. I would restate the question with the full context of my thoughts and apologize for the perceived insult and hope to get a better answer.

 

You come to the conclusion that "humans are inherently evil" and this episode confirms it. Sure, humans certainly aren't completely altruistic. However, they aren't evil either. Pure evil makes very little or no sense from a biological/evolutionary view. Cooperation boosts adaptation and survival chances. I encourage you to study the matter a little and question your conclusion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism#Scientific_viewpoints is as good a place to start as any). In the RPG sense of the word I believe humans are true neutrals most of the time. The conversation you had with the author hopefully began as neutral. The author perceived it as an insult, applied the moral principle of reciprocity and was insulting to you. Now the conversation was bad. You can come here and say "This conversation was bad", and you are right, but venting is just neutral as well.

 

If you want things to be good, it's up to you to make them good. You say you suffer from "Bipolar Disorder and PTSD, as well as Social Anxiety" and that's extremely hard to deal with. You effectively end the thread with a threat "Honestly, if you don't calm down, apologize, and admit you were wrong, I'll want to block you because I cannot allow toxic people to interact with me for my health". Why not try to break the circle of negative reciprocity? I would suggest going on a positive route instead if it's still possible. Compliment the author on their work, be nice and clear with your expressions, since you know they are not a great communicator and apologize for what you think they perceived as an insult. I know it might feel weird, because you didn't MEAN to insult them, but unfortunately that's become THEIR reality. By being unconditionally positive in this way, you might be able to fix your relationship (if you want to). It could also help you to like yourself better and have a higher self-esteem by being good and making a thing that went sour go good instead. Or you can just carry on with your idea and cut ties making the bad situation into a neutral one. That's an improvement too.

 

I hope I have written something a little helpful, good luck with your endeavors and relationships, and trying to make things good and positive!

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Honestly, I don't see the need to be upset about this. Sure, the person was rude, but that's like every day rudeness that's to be expected. You say you have thick skin and stream. I wonder what your stream chat looks like? I bet there's things 100x more rude than what happened here.

 

Basically the person you wrote to you considered you being rude. I know, what you're thinking why would they??? It was a perfectly innocent question. Let me give you an example from my life, every year I go to a serviceman to get my lawnmower checked up, get the blades sharpened etc. It's the same male technician in his fifties with quite a bit of ego. He ignores me after I come into his shop before he's done finishing up a step of whatever he is working on without replying to my salutation. He perceives me as the rude person, because I interrupted HIS work. In fact I think he considers greeting a person unnecessary, since there's a bell on the door and he knows I am there. It might take a couple of minutes with me just standing there before he recognizes I am there. Then, we play language courtesy games. I say I need something fixed up. He says he needs lots of things. And I am like ah I understand, that simple phrase actually insulted you!(I think that, I don't say it), Could you please fix this? It goes on like this, you get the point. At the end of the day, he fixes whatever I need fixed, he does his job well, he doesn't do unnecessary pricey repairs and he gives me a good price compared to other places. In short, he's a good person who is rude. I could go to a different place, same distance, where they will greet me and be socially pleasant and servile. They will do a worse job and charge me more. They are the bad people.

 

What happened to you? You asked an author a question, you don't consider it stupid but that's you. Can they think it's stupid or annoying? Absolutely.

 

1/ It's not related to their artwork. It's a question about the bureaucratic realities of getting the art to the public through websites. That in itself is enough to make your question a nuisance rather than a sign of appreciation that the author is happy to reply to. This will be enough for some people to give you a rude reply already.

2/ You already know the answer to your question. Your chocolate example is perfect. Whilst you don't know exactly why a person likes on type of chocolate over the other you can easily imagine what the answer will be as you did. I understand that to you "Well, I find milk chocolate is too sweet for me because I have a sensitive palette. Dark chocolate is more bitter, but it's a good balance for my taste buds." is a different answer to "um, because I like it better?". To some, especially men, the answer is the same. They feel like they can't relate to a person's sense of bitterness and sweetness because they are purely subjective and different to theirs. To them that answer is exactly the same as, "I like it better", which is why they would generally not ask the question for the purpose of receiving an answer on the topic. They think they know the answer (or the type). They might ask it to start a conversation or socialize, but they are not really interested in what the actual answer is. In that sense the question without context can seem manipulative.

2->3/ Some people will consider asking questions you already (kind of) know the answer to, to be rude. They will think you are wasting their time OR they start questioning what the motivation you have for asking your question is.

3->4a/ The person you were writing to is clearly not great at communicating in English, regardless of circumstances (not first language or any other reason). So you are making them go through a painful, effortful process of communicating to answer a question you (kind of) know the answer to. Who knows? Perhaps they do have a mental illness like you suggest. That's just more reason to be kind. They are not happy about having to make a lot of effort to answer what they perceive as a casually thrown conversational question. What good is their answer going to do to you? You didn't make your motivation clear.

3->4b/ In this case it seems like the author guessed you are suggesting their work doesn't belong here.

 

Your question is not stupid. I don't think it's stupid. However, from certain points of view, it can be seen as unnecessary, waste of time, inane or manipulative.

Perhaps you really wanted to know why the author uploads his work here. Maybe you are looking to upload works of your own and you are thinking what the best places are, and you ask him for advice as a person with experience, but you did not make your motivation clear. Maybe you did ask it just to start a conversation with the author and in fact you want something else from them. Maybe you did it to insult him. He can't know. He guessed you did it to insult him and reacted in that way. Now the ball is back in your court. Personally I try to be humble in these situations. My reaction if I had a good day would be: "Ah, ok my bad I did not express myself perfectly, left myself open to misinterpretation and now this person thinks I wanted to insult them" (honestly that happens to everyone, all the time, but it's good to acknowledge). The conversation is a disaster and I need to do my best to fix it. I would restate the question with the full context of my thoughts and apologize for the perceived insult and hope to get a better answer.

 

You come to the conclusion that "humans are inherently evil" and this episode confirms it. Sure, humans certainly aren't completely altruistic. However, they aren't evil either. Pure evil makes very little or no sense from a biological/evolutionary view. Cooperation boosts adaptation and survival chances. I encourage you to study the matter a little and question your conclusion (https://en.wikipedia...ific_viewpoints is as good a place to start as any). In the RPG sense of the word I believe humans are true neutrals most of the time. The conversation you had with the author hopefully began as neutral. The author perceived it as an insult, applied the moral principle of reciprocity and was insulting to you. Now the conversation was bad. You can come here and say "This conversation was bad", and you are right, but venting is just neutral as well.

 

If you want things to be good, it's up to you to make them good. You say you suffer from "Bipolar Disorder and PTSD, as well as Social Anxiety" and that's extremely hard to deal with. You effectively end the thread with a threat "Honestly, if you don't calm down, apologize, and admit you were wrong, I'll want to block you because I cannot allow toxic people to interact with me for my health". Why not try to break the circle of negative reciprocity? I would suggest going on a positive route instead if it's still possible. Compliment the author on their work, be nice and clear with your expressions, since you know they are not a great communicator and apologize for what you think they perceived as an insult. I know it might feel weird, because you didn't MEAN to insult them, but unfortunately that's become THEIR reality. By being unconditionally positive in this way, you might be able to fix your relationship (if you want to). It could also help you to like yourself better and have a higher self-esteem by being good and making a thing that went sour go good instead. Or you can just carry on with your idea and cut ties making the bad situation into a neutral one. That's an improvement too.

 

I hope I have written something a little helpful, good luck with your endeavors and relationships, and trying to make things good and positive!

 

I didn't even bother reading your entire comment after reading the first few sentences. for one, I turn the chat off during a stream because I am unable to do things like talk on the phone or use instant message programs. these two things are like speaking to people directly, and I cannot do that because of my social anxiety disorder, I can message people in comments and PMs because it's on my own time, and the likelihood of the person on the other end being present at the time mine is sent is very low. and even if they respond right away, I'm already gone.

 

that's rudeness to be expected? actually, I expect no rudeness since you must do something wrong in order to receive a negative response. actually, with the way this person responded, they deserve for me to lash back at them, but unlike them, I follow the rules on this website. that's another reason the rudeness is unexpected, because it's against the rules. if people don't follow the rules, it creates chaos, and things must be in order for the benefit of everyone as long as the rules do not dehumanize the community.

 

I don't care about your life story because you are a stranger and I cannot empathize with you unless you've dealt with the same torment I have in my lifetime. you most likely do not care about MY life story either. I'm not one to hide things, and I am an honest person, so I have no problem sharing it, but I'd rather not waste my time doing something I wasn't first invited to do. that could potentially cause the recipient of the information discomfort that they are not prepared to handle beforehand.

 

I read your last sentence and laughed. good and positive? people who think that way are weak. they still don their blindfold they were born with, don't see the reality of the world, don't understand that good and positive things are tiny and temporary. anything a human does to be more invasive to this poor planet isn't worth anything, it does no good, and we have no right to even exist. we are pests that have invaded the territories of species that are actually deserve to exist. to quote Aenema by Tool, "mama's going to fix it all soon, mama's coming round to put it back the way it ought to be." and later in the song, "because I'm praying for rain, and I'm praying for tidal waves. I want to see the ground give way, I want to watch it all go down. mom please flush it all away, I want to see it go right in and down. I want to watch it go right in, watch you flush it all away." MJK refers to "mom," which is mother nature. if we don't destroy the planet, it will righten itself by destroying us and starting over, "putting it back the way it ought to be." if I had my way, we humans would go through a mass extinction without any of the rightful species being taken down with us, but realistically, mama won't be able to save all of her creatures. I didn't think the planet would start trying to wash us out in my lifetime, but we've had... what, five, six hurricanes in one month? and I live in California, it's been a long time since we've had a massive earthquake, we're due for a devastating one.

 

what's worse, if we DO manage to destroy the planet before it gets rid of us, we're looking for NEW planets to move to! luckily we're nowhere close to that kind of space travel, but we're also trying to achieve immortality! humans live too long anyway, and we're reproducing even though we don't need to. reproduction is supposed to keep the species going, but we don't need it, but we have this delusion of needing "family," which is a crutch and a danger to this already overpopulated planet, and we're exhausting our resources because we thought they'd last forever. but those are not just OUR resources, they belong to everyone else too, and THEY suffer because we are arrogant and think we matter more than anyone else. we take away everything that isn't rightfully ours, and they all suffer because of it. so what are we becoming? planet destroyers. if we succeed in moving to another planet, we'll just destroy that too, and the next one, and the next one, et cetera. we're the end of natural evolution, if we evolve further, it's because we forced it, and that's unnatural. but we defy nature just by existing.

 

at the beginning of Aenema, MJK says, "some say the end is near, some say we'll see Armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will, because I sure could use a vacation from this bullshit, three ring circus side show of freaks." in Jerk-Off, he says, "someone told me once that there's a right and wrong, punishment would come to those who dare to cross the line. but it must not be true for jerk-offs just like you. maybe it takes longer to catch a total asshole, but I'm tired of waiting." it's so odd to hear these things that I've thought for my entire life before I even started listening to Tool, and it does give me a tiny bit of hope, realizing that I'm not the only one who knows the truth of reality. but the danger is that there are so many people on this planet who still wear their blindfolds. I want to rip them off, people don't deserve to be happy due to blindness.

 

luckily my boyfriend and are think the same. we both are very intelligent, and he is mentally sound, so I know that my thoughts are not because of chemical imbalances in my brain, especially when they stay once I take my medication. he has not experienced my same turmoil, nowhere close, but that doesn't keep him from seeing everything around him for what it is. he doesn't have a criminal mind like I do, so my thoughts on human cleansing are much more... EXTREME than his... but that changes nothing. I'm sick and tired of optimists who claim everything is good, everything if fine and dandy, right as candy. I'm tired of idiots who don't stop to think about the consequences of their actions. I'm tired of people who respond to kindness with hostility. I'm tired of people who think that urging someone to kill themselves is just a harmless joke. I'm just tired. I'm exhausted. I am not even meant to be here, my birth was a mistake, and yet I have to suffer, just like millions of other mistakes, mistakes who may not have had it as bad as me, mistakes who have had it a thousand times worse.

 

but instead of us getting our comeuppance, it's the innocent ones who have to die at the hands of the monsters. the las vegas shootings did not surprise me, nor has any other shooting since my blindfold was torn off of my face. when someone is raped or murdered, it doesn't surprise me. sometimes I feel like I'm the only one in the world with morals, so when I meet that rare person who actually does, it puts my mind at ease, which is hard since my mind is always going, and I just want it to shut up. actually, if I had my way, I'd put myself to sleep for a long time, but that would be selfish because then my boyfriend and my rats, who are my children, would suffer hardship and loneliness by not having me around, I would be taking up space for someone who needs it, and I can't shut off my bodily functions, so someone else would STILL have to care for me. selfishness is human nature, but I try my damnedest not to succumb to my instincts. but because of my upbringing, because I was closed away from the rest of the world, I saw nothing but wrong, and I realized that i must always do the right thing if i can help it. that's why it DOES shock me sometimes when people do something wrong. i think to myself, "how is it even possible for people to just DO those things and be okay with it?" like lying, or doing drugs. even at twenty-six, it's still difficult for me to not be naïve about a lot of human behaviors because i hold my morality like a crown, and i am not a sheep, so i don't keep them to myself. and i have taught many people, i have helped many people who have suffered like me, or worse than me. and most of them are still children. it hurts to hear about their situations, and i help them try to survive because i don't want them to grow up like me, i don't want them to suffer through their adult lives just because other people tortured them.

 

still, one must not deliver an unkindness unless one is delivered first. if it's a chemical imbalance, i understand, but a clarification should have been in order. if it was a language barrier, they still should have asked for clarification of my intentions. if this is a KID, they need to been torn from the computer and kept away from it until they can learn to not be a lying little brat. children are the worst of humanity because they have not yet learned how to suppress their instincts, and this shithead parents don't know how to teach them because they're just sheep. there are so few good parents out there because 98% of the population are utter morons.

 

I'd be surprised if you read this whole thing, especially since i did not offer you the same courtesy. so to answer why i "upset" about this, please stop being a sheep. venting is good for people like me who bottle things up and wait until the glass breaks. whether someone read this blog or not never mattered to me, because writing it made me feel better. sorry if i don't follow the herd and shut my mouth like the shepard tells us to while we're led to the slaughter house. as a word of advice, take off your blindfold.

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still, one must not deliver an unkindness unless one is delivered first. if it's a chemical imbalance, i understand, but a clarification should have been in order. if it was a language barrier, they still should have asked for clarification of my intentions. if this is a KID, they need to been torn from the computer and kept away from it until they can learn to not be a lying little brat. children are the worst of humanity because they have not yet learned how to suppress their instincts, and this shithead parents don't know how to teach them because they're just sheep. there are so few good parents out there because 98% of the population are utter morons.

 

I'd be surprised if you read this whole thing, especially since i did not offer you the same courtesy. so to answer why i "upset" about this, please stop being a sheep. venting is good for people like me who bottle things up and wait until the glass breaks. whether someone read this blog or not never mattered to me, because writing it made me feel better. sorry if i don't follow the herd and shut my mouth like the shepard tells us to while we're led to the slaughter house. as a word of advice, take off your blindfold.

 

 

I just quickly "flew" over your response since I don't have a time to read the whole thing. Sorry. But, the things you said in my quote are things I very agree with you. You reminds me on us, especially to my Prince and my Ivy. My Prince is very unconventional and he doens't follow world's trends and he gives a shit what people thinks about him. He only cares for me and Ivy and our families and friends. Love your expression "please stop being a sheep. venting is good for people like me who bottle things up and wait until the glass breaks."   I have my diaries that serves me as steaming off. My Prince has long walks, running and sex with Ivy and me. She is very much like him and she also, as we would say in our country, "Has no hair on the tongue". She always speaks her mind very direct and very open. Most of the people doesn't like to hear it, but she is the way she is and my Prince and I accepted her and we love her the way she is. :)

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still, one must not deliver an unkindness unless one is delivered first. if it's a chemical imbalance, i understand, but a clarification should have been in order. if it was a language barrier, they still should have asked for clarification of my intentions. if this is a KID, they need to been torn from the computer and kept away from it until they can learn to not be a lying little brat. children are the worst of humanity because they have not yet learned how to suppress their instincts, and this shithead parents don't know how to teach them because they're just sheep. there are so few good parents out there because 98% of the population are utter morons.

 

I'd be surprised if you read this whole thing, especially since i did not offer you the same courtesy. so to answer why i "upset" about this, please stop being a sheep. venting is good for people like me who bottle things up and wait until the glass breaks. whether someone read this blog or not never mattered to me, because writing it made me feel better. sorry if i don't follow the herd and shut my mouth like the shepard tells us to while we're led to the slaughter house. as a word of advice, take off your blindfold.

 

 

I just quickly "flew" over your response since I don't have a time to read the whole thing. Sorry. But, the things you said in my quote are things I very agree with you. You reminds me on us, especially to my Prince and my Ivy. My Prince is very unconventional and he doens't follow world's trends and he gives a shit what people thinks about him. He only cares for me and Ivy and our families and friends. Love your expression "please stop being a sheep. venting is good for people like me who bottle things up and wait until the glass breaks."   I have my diaries that serves me as steaming off. My Prince has long walks, running and sex with Ivy and me. She is very much like him and she also, as we would say in our country, "Has no hair on the tongue". She always speaks her mind very direct and very open. Most of the people doesn't like to hear it, but she is the way she is and my Prince and I accepted her and we love her the way she is. :)

 

I'm interested in your relationship. so you're a polygamist? don't get the wrong idea about my inquiry, I support polygamy.

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I'm interested in your relationship. so you're a polygamist? don't get the wrong idea about my inquiry, I support polygamy.

 

 

Yes.In short: Ivy and I grew up together and we were lovers since we were 14 years old. We are both bisexuals. A year ago, her boyfriend introduced her to his best friend, my Prince and they arranged the date in four. I fell in love with him at the first sight. Few days later he fell in love in me. After three months of dating we started to live together.  Some time later Ivy and he fell in love to each other and very soon she moved in to live with us. Her boyfriend didn't like them being in love and he broke up with her although, before that, we had group sex several times. In our country bigamy and polygamy is forbidden but we had our own wedding ceremony after our parents accepted our love triangle. prince's mom resisted our relationship at first and she caused a lot of problems to my Prince and Ivy, but after some time, she accepted us. So, the three of us are crazy in love for each other. We work at the same place and our boss knows about us and he and his wife support our marriage. He kept the professional relationship with Ivy and me, but he accepted my Prince as his own son. :)

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I'm interested in your relationship. so you're a polygamist? don't get the wrong idea about my inquiry, I support polygamy.

 

 

Yes.In short: Ivy and I grew up together and we were lovers since we were 14 years old. We are both bisexuals. A year ago, her boyfriend introduced her to his best friend, my Prince and they arranged the date in four. I fell in love with him at the first sight. Few days later he fell in love in me. After three months of dating we started to live together.  Some time later Ivy and he fell in love to each other and very soon she moved in to live with us. Her boyfriend didn't like them being in love and he broke up with her although, before that, we had group sex several times. In our country bigamy and polygamy is forbidden but we had our own wedding ceremony after our parents accepted our love triangle. prince's mom resisted our relationship at first and she caused a lot of problems to my Prince and Ivy, but after some time, she accepted us. So, the three of us are crazy in love for each other. We work at the same place and our boss knows about us and he and his wife support our marriage. He kept the professional relationship with Ivy and me, but he accepted my Prince as his own son. :)

 

that's awesome. I sort of don't understand why it's illegal, I live in America, and I don't think polygamous marriage is legal in any state. I mean, it's not cheating because all partners know about each other, and if the relationship works, what's the problem? it's this whole idea of "honoring traditional marriage," which is also the reason people have a problem with same sex marriage here, but "traditional" American marriage is a farce created by the diamond company, so it's like... dude, just let people love each other. maybe if there was more love and less hate, we wouldn't be so screwed up.

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