RichterQ87 Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 As the title states, Apropos widgets aren't showing up, weirdly enough. I don't think Apropos itself is broken, since sometimes I can see for a split second an Apropos message showing up right as the animation starts, but rather that all the HUD and widgets so invisible upon animation start. I suspect that it's either because of: •Sexlab, for when the animation starts all widgets and the HUD disappears, which I assume is intentional but seems to be affecting Apropos as well. •Sexlab Aroused Monitor Widget, for it might be a matter of conflicting widgets. •iNeeds, for the same reason as Monitor Widget. In any case, here's my load order. Spoiler GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1 ImCh.esm=1 SexLab.esm=1 ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1 SexLabAroused.esm=1 daymoyl.esm=1 ApachiiHair.esm=1 ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1 ApachiiHairMales.esm=1 RaceCompatibility.esm=1 RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 MagicDuelReborn.esm=1 CreatureFramework.esm=1 SharedSeranaDialogue.esm=1 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1 GameOfThronesArmors.esm=1 NoFriendlyFire.esm=1 Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1 Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1 SexLab Attraction.esm=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=1 HighResTexturePack02.esp=1 HighResTexturePack03.esp=1 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1 WetandCold.esp=1 WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp=1 Dead Body Collision.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 RaceMenuMimic.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=0 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=0 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=0 SOS - Addons Merged.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 ImmersiveCheatMenu.esp=1 cleaner_castlevolkihar3.esp=1 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp=1 WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp=1 WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack.esp=1 Sanctuary Reborn.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1 RealShelter.esp=1 Prettier Bandits.esp=1 MrBs-UniqueLootv200.esp=1 BHTNF_Eli.esp=1 EliAtrociousRiftenTextureFix.esp=1 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1 SexLab-Stories.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp=1 1nivWICCloaks.esp=1 VioLens.esp=1 DeadlyCombat.esp=1 ReturnToSender.esp=1 No Power Attack Rotation.esp=1 AchieveThat.esp=1 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp=1 Master of Disguise - Legendary.esp=1 Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp=1 NARC.esp=1 CWIELnFXPatch.esp=1 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1 Immersive Weapons.esp=1 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp=1 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp=1 TheChoiceIsYours.esp=1 SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1 Run For Your Lives.esp=1 Improved Dragon Shouts - Merged.esp=1 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=0 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=0 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=0 moveitLWT.esp=1 LFox No Nightingale Power Cooldown.esp=1 Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1 LFox Pickpocketing Chance Caps at 100.esp=1 When Vampires Attack.esp=1 SimplyKnock.esp=1 Player Size Adjuster.esp=1 WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp=1 SkyrimSpeeds.esp=1 SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp=1 Mercy.esp=1 ThievesGuildReq_LocalizedGuildJobs_Patch.esp=1 Beards.esp=1 Brows.esp=1 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1 The Ningheim.esp=1 Five O'Clock Shadow.esp=1 KS Hairdo's.esp=1 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1 BlackHorseCourier.esp=1 AK- Clothe Dead NPCs.esp=1 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp=1 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp=1 Real Feeding V3.esp=1 Realistic crime report radius.esp=1 Sinking Bodies.esp=1 TGenhanced.esp=1 RSChildren.esp=1 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp=1 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1 Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp=1 DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp=1 DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp=1 Thunderchild - Magic Duel Reborn Compatibility Patch.esp=1 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=0 HentaiCreatures.esp=0 MoreNastyCritters.esp=0 NCHCMNC - Merge.esp=1 ImmersiveSpells.esp=0 ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp=1 SLPrivacy.esp=1 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1 Marriable Serana.esp=1 DawnguardArsenal.esp=1 DeadlyDragons.esp=1 imp_helm_legend.esp=1 Sneak Tools - Merge.esp=1 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1 LostGrimoire.esp=1 SkeletonKeyPotential.esp=1 LoksEyes.esp=1 NightingaleArrows.esp=1 Glowing Vampire Eyes.esp=1 Glowing Eyes.esp=1 Marriable Serana HF.esp=1 LegendarySmithingUpgrades.esp=1 Two-Handed Speed-Based Perks.esp=0 UIExtensions.esp=1 JaxonzMapMarkers.esp=1 Dawnbreaker Two Handed Addon.esp=1 DawnguardDawnbreaker_HolyFireEd.esp=1 ISD_LongclawCraft.esp=1 SpookyBigDarkMolagBal__ENG.esp=1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1 Footprints.esp=1 Real Roads.esp=1 Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1 Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp=1 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp=1 SLAnimLoader.esp=1 SexLabTools.esp=1 SLALAnimObj.esp=1 SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1 PuppetMaster.esp=1 SexLabStatsManipulator.esp=1 SLA Monitor Widget.esp=1 SlaveTats.esp=1 SexLabDefeat.esp=1 SexLab Cumshot.esp=1 SexLab Submit.esp=1 SexLab Submit Serana.esp=1 SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp=1 SLDrunk.esp=1 Ice.esp=1 LFox No Werewolf Form Cooldown.esp=1 RevampedExteriorFog.esp=1 ENB Snow FX.esp=1 Predator Vision.esp=1 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1 Werewolf Loot- Dawnguard version.esp=1 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1 QuickShotRank2.esp=1 dragonrendhurts.esp=1 UltimateDragons.esp=1 Shield of the Dragonborn.esp=1 skyforgedWeapons.esp=1 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp=1 ABT - Merge.esp=1 ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp=0 ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp=0 ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (Vanilla) +100%.esp=0 ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (Vanilla) +50%.esp=0 NoFriendlyFire.esp=1 AurielsBowEnhanced.esp=0 Auriel's Divine Bow.esp=0 Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1 one_ring_to_find_them.esp=1 Immersive Speechcraft.esp=1 CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp=1 CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp=1 quest_pitfighter.esp=0 quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp=0 TimingIsEverything.esp=1 ssapbwk.esp=1 Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp=1 More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp=1 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=0 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=0 Deadly Torches - Everlasting with High Damage.esp=1 Mighty Beasts - Vampire Lord.esp=1 ancient helms improved.esp=1 SwordFromTheStone.esp=1 Sneak Tools.esp=0 SpousesEnhanced.esp=1 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1 Spellsword.esp=1 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp=1 BlackSacramentArmor.esp=1 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=0 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=0 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp=1 KeepTheSkeletonKey.esp=1 Binocular Vision Game Settings 135.esp=1 My Home Is Your Home.esp=1 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1 custom paralysis spell.esp=1 SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp=1 Infinite Werewolf.esp=1 The Paarthurnax Ultimatum.esp=1 SpellswordDawnguardDragonborn.esp=1 Golden Rings Of Craft.esp=1 Faction Crossbows.esp=1 One ImCh Patcher.esp=1 Hott Vampires 2.esp=1 Updated Harkon and Vanilla Valerica.esp=1 The Ordinary Women.esp=1 Bijin NPCs.esp=0 Bijin Wives.esp=0 Bijin Warmaidens.esp=0 Bijin AIO.esp=1 Serana.esp=1 Valerica.esp=1 Toccata as Elisif.esp=1 Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 RaceCompatibility-Dialog-Legendary.esp=1 RaceCompatibility-GuardDialogueOverhaulPatch.esp=1 Race Compatibility - ASLAL Dialogue.esp=1 RSPatch.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 SexLab_Dialogues.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 TKDodge.esp=1 XPMSE.esp=1 SOSRaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp=1 sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp=1 Sleep for Credit.esp=1 SexLab_Solutions.esp=1 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp=1 POPatched_SLSolutions_Comp_Patch.esp=1 ccas_starts.esp=1 Bandit_Honeypot.esp=1 ImmerSlave.esp=1 pchs_loansharks.esp=1 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp=1 SimpleSlavery.esp=1 SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp=1 SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp=1 The Hunting Game - TheGreyLight.esp=1 SexLab Approach.esp=1 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1 12FemaleBrows.esp=1 SLSW Addicted.esp=1 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp=1 Campsite.esp=1 iNeed.esp=1 Proper Aiming.esp=1 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1 NPC ReWeHeighter.esp=1 TradeBarter.esp=1 Apropos.esp=1
donttouchmethere Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 i can only guess, so you have a variation to BUMP ;D maybe its something that changes FOV you could test and deactivate - Binocular Vision Game Settings 135 - head tracking or you switched the widges off by accident via the key provided in the apropos MCM
RichterQ87 Posted May 18, 2018 Author Posted May 18, 2018 Thanks for the reply. It doesn't appear to be anything that changes the FOV. Binocular Vision just makes it so that NPC's can only see at a certain FOV for when you're sneaking they don't have 360 vision and spot you around the corner. Headtracking only makes it so the PC's head actually looks at people instead of staring off into the distance. As for switching off the widgets, it doesn't seem to be that either. I tried running the test widget apropos thing and it started spouting some Latin bullshit or something, as can be seen here: Spoiler It just seems that all HUD elements, including widgets, disappear when the scene starts--as I could see the widget a moment before the scene kicks in.
Fifoo Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 6 hours ago, RichterQ87 said: Bump anniversary. Loved that one! I poked a bit to see where the problem might come from, but you have a bunch of mods I do not use. So there are some clarifications to give to determine where the problem may come from: What Mod manager do you use? From what moment did the problem appear, an update? Addition of mods? Changing your mod's Load Order? Did you try to redo a new game start? Your problem may be due to scripts that do not start correctly or by having a corrupted savegame. Your Bashed Patch file is placed in the middle of your Load Order and you have a lot of mods loaded after it. Some of them are legit to load after, others not so well. You'll have to redo the Bashed Patch each time you change the Load Order, or install, update your mods, if you have not done so. You have a lot of mods that modify the game dialogs. Have you installed Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice? Otherwise, do it. The Apropos mod may not have been activated correctly in your game session due to a blocked script or a corrupted installation, a setup that don't activate correctly. See if uninstalling/reinstalling iNeed - Food Water and Sleep and the Apropos mods by following the procedure described on their authors mod pages could help. To start a new game and make sure it registers at game start might be the only way to fix it.
RichterQ87 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Fifoo said: Loved that one! I poked a bit to see where the problem might come from, but you have a bunch of mods I do not use. So there are some clarifications to give to determine where the problem may come from: What Mod manager do you use? From what moment did the problem appear, an update? Addition of mods? Changing your mod's Load Order? Did you try to redo a new game start? Your problem may be due to scripts that do not start correctly or by having a corrupted savegame. Your Bashed Patch file is placed in the middle of your Load Order and you have a lot of mods loaded after it. Some of them are legit to load after, others not so well. You'll have to redo the Bashed Patch each time you change the Load Order, or install, update your mods, if you have not done so. You have a lot of mods that modify the game dialogs. Have you installed Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice? Otherwise, do it. The Apropos mod may not have been activated correctly in your game session due to a blocked script or a corrupted installation, a setup that don't activate correctly. See if uninstalling/reinstalling iNeed - Food Water and Sleep and the Apropos mods by following the procedure described on their authors mod pages could help. To start a new game and make sure it registers at game start might be the only way to fix it. Glad I could amuse ^^ As for the questions: Nexus Mod Manager. I realize a lot of people frown upon it but I started with it all the way back when Skyrim first came out and I can't be bothered to try anything new. It started when I started a new game. The previous game did not have this problem. At least that I remember. Maybe. But the fact that it still showed up during the Apropos test made me think otherwise. Like I said I don't think it's a problem with Apropos itself since it effects all HUD elements and widgets and it does seem to show up for a split second before animation start. Yeah, the bashed patch. Too be honest, I don't remember ever having done that, but after coming back from a few months hiatus and saw it was enabled I kind of just left it. I remember not being a very big fan of all that, nor did I find it necessary--but I didn't want to break the game so I just left it on. I have not, no. Due to the above reasons. I'll be sure to give that a whirl once I have the time. I have installed Fuz Ro-Doh, yes. Perhaps. As I said in 3, I don't think it's a problem with Apropos itself but it's worth a shot starting a new game just in case. Didn't get very far so shouldn't be a problem. I'll be sure to do that when I have the time and report back here once I have. But yeah, I'll make sure to update the bashed patch, uninstall/reinstall iNeed and Apropos, and start a new game to make sure it initializes at start up given the chance. I appreciate the reply! I'll report back after I've given it all a whirl.
Fifoo Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, RichterQ87 said: But yeah, I'll make sure to update the bashed patch, uninstall/reinstall iNeed and Apropos, and start a new game to make sure it initializes at start up given the chance. I appreciate the reply! I'll report back after I've given it all a whirl. Good! I hope for you that it gets better. When having more time - time goes too fast for my taste, I'm going to take a look at the last load of your mods concerning AS - LAL, SexLab Solutions, etc ... 2 hours ago, RichterQ87 said: It started when I started a new game. Load Order issues with AS- LAL and related mods or scripts not running correctly? MadMansGun has suggested an efficient SexLab Load Order in his More Nasty Critters: SLAL Edition mod page: Spoiler Suggested Sexlab Load Order: #00: Skyrim Master Files USLEEP #01: Your ESM Files Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm SexLab.esm SexlabAroused.esm (only if it's fully installed) CreatureFramework.esm ... Sexlab Addon\Plugin mod's .esm here ... All other .esm mods here ... #02: DLC HighResTexturePacks (optional) UHRP Unofficial High Resolution Patch (optional - but needed for the DLC HRTP) Optimised HD Vanilla TexturePacks (optional) #03: SKSE, SKSE Plugin Preloader, Crash fixes #04: SkyUI.esp UIExtensions.esp (needed for SexLabTools) FNIS.esp ... All other .esp mods here ... SexLabTools.esp (optional) MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp <= not used anymore in the new MNC update version SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp (only if you have Dawnguard) <= not used anymore in the new MNC update version SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp (only if you have Dragonborn) <= not used anymore in the new MNC update version HentaiCreatures.esp (optional) SexLabMatchMaker.esp (optional) SLAnimLoader.esp ... Sexlab Addon\Plugin mod's .esp here ... #05: XPMSE Check all XPMSE requirements, they must be installed before the Skeleton in the correct order: Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS NetImmerse Override (only for ECE users) RaceMenu Realistic Ragdolls and Force <= not needed anymore with the latest XPMSE version #06: Reproccers, AV, AS-LAL and Bashed PatchesKeep this Load order: SexLab_Solution must be loaded after AS-LAL to work: Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp ... Bashed patches ... ------------ Load order inspired from MadMansGun's advices. Check his guide:SexLab & More Nasty Critters Install Guide V2.5 MNC update version: More Nasty Critters: SLAL Edition v11.1F Thanks and credits to MadMansGun. The problem with installing script heavy mods is that the default Papyrus settings are not capable of handling the additional stress. This tweak proposed by MadMansGun should increase stability, and needs to be added to the Skyrim.ini file under the [Papyrus] section. Spoiler [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=1.6 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.6 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=1000.0 bEnableLogging=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 iMaxMemoryPageSize=8192 iMinMemoryPageSize=256 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600 ------------ Additional notes: Note1: there is some debate on the last 3, it has been suggested that they should be deleted from the Skyrim.inihttps://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes/ Note2: you should only have logging turned on (bEnableLogging=1) if you are actively trying to find a problem, the rest of the time it's just a drain on system resources and it can cause extra stress for the papyrus system, therefor if you have it on all the time it can potentially become a part of the problem your trying to fix. it only logs the scripts anyways so if you have a problem like a deleted world object or a bad navmesh the log won't say anything helpfull, you should be doing this if you have such a problem:http://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=TES5Edit_Mod_Cleaning_Tutorialhttp://wiki.step-project.com/TES5Edit/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Instructions See if these Papyrus tweaks can help you run all the scripts correctly.
RichterQ87 Posted May 22, 2018 Author Posted May 22, 2018 23 hours ago, Fifoo said: Good! I hope for you that it gets better. When having more time - time goes too fast for my taste, I'm going to take a look at the last load of your mods concerning AS - LAL, SexLab Solutions, etc ... Load Order issues with AS- LAL and related mods or scripts not running correctly? MadMansGun has suggested an efficient SexLab Load Order in his More Nasty Critters: SLAL Edition mod page: Reveal hidden contents Suggested Sexlab Load Order: #00: Skyrim Master Files USLEEP #01: Your ESM Files Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm SexLab.esm SexlabAroused.esm (only if it's fully installed) CreatureFramework.esm ... Sexlab Addon\Plugin mod's .esm here ... All other .esm mods here ... #02: DLC HighResTexturePacks (optional) UHRP Unofficial High Resolution Patch (optional - but needed for the DLC HRTP) Optimised HD Vanilla TexturePacks (optional) #03: SKSE, SKSE Plugin Preloader, Crash fixes #04: SkyUI.esp UIExtensions.esp (needed for SexLabTools) FNIS.esp ... All other .esp mods here ... SexLabTools.esp (optional) MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp <= not used anymore in the new MNC update version SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp (only if you have Dawnguard) <= not used anymore in the new MNC update version SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp (only if you have Dragonborn) <= not used anymore in the new MNC update version HentaiCreatures.esp (optional) SexLabMatchMaker.esp (optional) SLAnimLoader.esp ... Sexlab Addon\Plugin mod's .esp here ... #05: XPMSE Check all XPMSE requirements, they must be installed before the Skeleton in the correct order: Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS NetImmerse Override (only for ECE users) RaceMenu Realistic Ragdolls and Force <= not needed anymore with the latest XPMSE version #06: Reproccers, AV, AS-LAL and Bashed PatchesKeep this Load order: SexLab_Solution must be loaded after AS-LAL to work: Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp ... Bashed patches ... ------------ Load order inspired from MadMansGun's advices. Check his guide:SexLab & More Nasty Critters Install Guide V2.5 MNC update version: More Nasty Critters: SLAL Edition v11.1F Thanks and credits to MadMansGun. The problem with installing script heavy mods is that the default Papyrus settings are not capable of handling the additional stress. This tweak proposed by MadMansGun should increase stability, and needs to be added to the Skyrim.ini file under the [Papyrus] section. Reveal hidden contents [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=1.6 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.6 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=1000.0 bEnableLogging=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 iMaxMemoryPageSize=8192 iMinMemoryPageSize=256 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600 ------------ Additional notes: Note1: there is some debate on the last 3, it has been suggested that they should be deleted from the Skyrim.inihttps://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes/ Note2: you should only have logging turned on (bEnableLogging=1) if you are actively trying to find a problem, the rest of the time it's just a drain on system resources and it can cause extra stress for the papyrus system, therefor if you have it on all the time it can potentially become a part of the problem your trying to fix. it only logs the scripts anyways so if you have a problem like a deleted world object or a bad navmesh the log won't say anything helpfull, you should be doing this if you have such a problem:http://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=TES5Edit_Mod_Cleaning_Tutorialhttp://wiki.step-project.com/TES5Edit/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Instructions See if these Papyrus tweaks can help you run all the scripts correctly. Just reporting back in! Luckily, the first solution I tried was the right one. After starting a new game and not so much as opening any menus and just waiting for it all to pass, then saving and loading it again for the rest of the mods to initialize the same way, it worked. I have an idea as to why. While I was staring at the top left of the screen watching things initialize, I noticed that iNeed popped up with something along the lines of 'Initializing, don't open the MCM menu', and a few minutes later it said I could open it. I'm assuming that I didn't notice this the first time around and upon opening the MCM menu to set the settings for all my mods, it messed with it, causing all the HUD and widget problems. So thank you for the help! I appreciate it immensely. And for the load order and Papyrus tips and tweaks. I'll make sure to take that into future modding consideration. Thanks again.
Fifoo Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 On 5/22/2018 at 11:46 PM, RichterQ87 said: Just reporting back in! Luckily, the first solution I tried was the right one. After starting a new game and not so much as opening any menus and just waiting for it all to pass, then saving and loading it again for the rest of the mods to initialize the same way, it worked. I have an idea as to why. While I was staring at the top left of the screen watching things initialize, I noticed that iNeed popped up with something along the lines of 'Initializing, don't open the MCM menu', and a few minutes later it said I could open it. I'm assuming that I didn't notice this the first time around and upon opening the MCM menu to set the settings for all my mods, it messed with it, causing all the HUD and widget problems. Great! Good reminder from you about the particular activation procedure of iNeed, well done! You can mark your thread as solved now. Have a good modding time.
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