Lamae Bal Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 Hello, I have recently upgraded my PC and had to reinstall oblivion. I am using the same data folder I did before, which worked fine with lovers mods. Strangely, I'm now getting runtime errors/crashes every time after sex animations in the game. It's usually around 20-30 seconds after the animations end. Sometimes it will say "oblivion has crashed" or the game just closes immediately. Earlier I was getting runtime errors, but I think it is the same issue. Pretty sure from testing so far, this only happens after sex animations. Here is my load order: https://pastebin.com/D9nArJW6 Here are my OBSE plugins too, because I've read that runtime errors can have to do with plugins being angry about something: https://pastebin.com/XaSRwPAy I'm using windows 10 now, and everything worked fine when I was using Windows 7. I also had a problem with Oblivion Stutter Remover's heap replacement crashing the game, but there were still issues even without heap replacement, so I had to get rid of it for now. Anyone know of any issues OSR could have with Win 10? or other OBSE plugins? Or any other reason I'm getting these problems? Thanks.
fejeena Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 Have you read my yellow Link below? Game not in C:programfiles (x86) No Nexus Modmanager ( can not install Lovers Mods !!! ) You have the old DirectX 9 files ? "DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010)" ........................................................................................ Your Load order ED Bashed Patch, Oblivion.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp EE Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.8.2] If you get a error message why don't you fix it ????? Your Bashed Patch misses a master file, the Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp So your load order must be Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.8.2] Bashed Patch, Oblivion.esp !!!! And NO Lovers Mods in the Bashed Patch !!!!! Deactivate ALL Lovers esm and esp and rebuild the BashedPatch, then activate the Lovers Mods again. _______________________________ And why don't you post the Load order and plugins here ? Use a spoiler Load order Spoiler Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Morrowind_ob.esm 02 underdark.esm 03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36] 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 05 TamRes.esm 06 TamRes_LandscapeResource.esm 07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.8b1] 08 SewerExpansion.esm 09 Lovers with PK.esm 0A LoversCreature.esm 0B Fundament.esm [Version ision] 0C TRoN.esp 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.5] ++ UOPS Additional Changes.esp 0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9] ++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp ** MOBS SI.esp [Version 2.0] 10 TamRes.esp ++ LoadingScreens.esp 11 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36] 12 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36] ++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3] 13 immersive interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 14 immersive interiors - bravil.esp 15 immersive interiors - imperial city.esp [Version 1.5] 16 immersive interiors - landscape addon.esp 17 Idle Dialogue.esp [Version 1.3] ++ Symphony of Violence.esp 18 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.36] 19 WindowLightingSystem.esp 1A brumasnorthernlights.esp 1B Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 1C Akatosh Mount Earn The Wyrm.esp 1D Oblivion Content Restoration Project.esp 1E DialogTweaks.esp [Version 1.2.1] 1F My Voice Extender.esp 20 Oblivion Uncut.esp 21 pmRealTimeInteractions.esp 22 Camping.esp ++ SkeletonShaders.esp 23 kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp 24 FormID Finder4.esp 25 kuerteeCleanUp.esp 26 MigFEA.esp [Version 2.1.3] 27 MigMiscellanea.esp [Version 1.82] 28 OblivionReloaded.esp 29 P-Froggys Automatic NPC-Respawner.esp 2A Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp 2B UnidirectionalAttack.esp 2C Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1] 2D Hotkey Pro.esp [Version 1.2] 2E DLCHorseArmor.esp 2F DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 30 DLCOrrery.esp 31 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 32 DLCVileLair.esp 33 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 34 VileLairRedux.esp 35 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 36 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 37 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 38 DLCSpellTomes - OBSEfixer.esp 39 1AlexScorpionSneakingSuit.esp 3A Ageha Tortured Soul HGEC.esp 3B Blackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes.esp 3C BlackLuster.esp 3D BreakArmor.esp [Version 1.10.f] 3E BWisteria.esp 3F DarkIllusionArmor.esp 40 Jedi LightSabers with Sound.esp 41 RGMsRealFlails.esp [Version 1.1] 42 Sinblood's Widow Dress.esp 43 ShaiyaOutfit.esp 44 Skooma_Water_Pipe.esp 45 SkoomaPipeMod.esp [Version 1.0] 46 Slof's Giger Armour.esp 47 Thieves Arsenal.esp 48 Mage Equipment.esp 49 Blood Elves and Egyptian Armors for Exnems body.esp 4A DarkRoseSet.esp 4B Shadowsilk-exnem.esp 4C slinky kunoichi.esp 4D Dynasty Recolor.esp 4E MigHorseArmor.esp 4F HRMHorseArmor.esp 50 kuerteeHorseCommands.esp 51 DLCThievesDen.esp 52 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15] 53 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14] 54 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 55 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] 56 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.8b1] 57 CurseOfHircine.esp 58 CurseOfHircine - Symphony of Night.esp 59 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b7] 5A Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Vanilla.esp [Version 3.8b1] 5B Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.8b1] 5C Mart's Monster Mod - Curse of Hircine.esp [Version 3.8b1] 5D Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.8b1] 5E Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.8b1] 5F Monster Girl Blockhead Edition.esp 60 Creature Diversity.esp 61 kuerteeWanderingEncounters.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp 62 Morrowind_ob.esp 63 Morrowind_ob - Chargen and Transport Mod.esp [Version 11] 64 Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp 65 Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp 66 Morrowind_ob - UCWUS.esp [Version 1.1] 67 Aberwiin Manor.esp 68 AHP.esp 69 Alexandriav3.esp 6A Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp 6B Assassin Tripwires.esp 6C Benirus Lair.esp [Version 1.0] 6D Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.21] 6E BDBS - Assassin Tripwires Patch.esp [Version 3.21] 6F BDBS - Chapel Memorial.esp [Version 3.21] 70 Better Benirus Manor.esp [Version 5.11-Cobl-SI] 71 Better Benirus Manor - Benirus Lair Patch.esp [Version 5.11] 72 Benirus Manor Rebuilt.esp [Version 1.1-BBM] 73 Benirus Manor Rebuilt - Cobl Patch.esp [Version 1.1] 74 HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp 75 bruma house for sale.esp 76 Felmoon's Dusk v.1.2.esp 77 icForeignQuarter.esp 78 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0] 79 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp 7A MolagBalTreasury.esp 7B Necromancer Shop.esp 7C SewerExpansion-Cheydinhal.esp 7D SewerExpansion-Bravil.esp 7E Side's Sailing Ships.esp [Version 0.93.5] ++ Side's Sailing Ships (COBL).esp [Version 1.2] 7F TheShunnedShack.esp 80 Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp 81 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 82 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 83 DLCFrostcrag.esp 84 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 85 BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp [Version 1.0.2] 86 Immersive Interiors - Bruma Guild Reconstructed.esp [Version 1.0] 87 Knights.esp 88 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8] 89 Oblivion Content Restoration Project -- Knights.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ Better Unique Items.esp ** DLC_MOBS.esp [Version 2.0] 8A RTT.esp 8B RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1] 8C Blood&Mud.esp 8D The Lost Spires.esp 8E AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.32.COBL] 8F House of Healing at Weye.esp 90 MannimarcoComplete.esp 91 MannimarcoRevisited.esp 92 Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp 93 Shadowcrest_Vineyard_GuardCOBL.esp 94 Tamriel.esp 95 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ++ ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp [Version 1.2] 96 ElsweyrCityExtension.esp 97 Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp 98 Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp 99 walkabout.esp 9A TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr.esp 9B ElsweyrPelletine.esp [Version 1.0] 9C TWMP_Hammerfell.esp 9D TWMP_HighRock.esp 9E TWMP_SkyrimImproved.esp 9F TWMP_Locations.esp [Version 1.0.2] A0 Ak- Mournhold in Tamriel.esp A1 AK- Morroblivion in Tamriel.esp A2 AK- Morroblivion in Tamriel Map.esp A3 TWMP_BlackMarsh.esp A4 TWMP_Pearl Islands.esp A5 ExtendedBleakerswayEV.esp A6 HackdirtAlive.esp A7 ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp A8 Fort Akatosh Redux.esp A9 ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp AA Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] AB Sutch Village.esp [Version 1.0.4] AC SutchUnificationPatch.esp AD TWMP_Hammerfell - Sutch Village.esp AE Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp [Version 1.2.5] AF Better Dungeons.esp B0 Elz - No Floating Weapon.esp B1 HorseJumpFixer.esp B2 Kosai's Welkynd Armor.esp B3 FuroGeneratorTrap.esp B4 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp B5 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp B6 LoversRaperS.esp B7 LoversBed.esp B8 LoversPayBandit.esp B9 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] BA LoversCreature.esp BB LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp BC LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp BD LoversSlaveTrader.esp BE SetsunaDummyTraining.esp BF Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.4.5] C0 Elz - Realistic Gravity.esp C1 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.3] C2 Basic Personal Hygiene.esp [Version 3.0] C3 Basic Physical Activities.esp [Version 1.3] C4 RealisticForceMedium.esp C5 RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp C6 HavokCollisionFix.esp C7 Unholy Darkness.esp C8 Myserious Bear's Epic Necromancy.esp C9 ASLES.esp CA ClaimThatInterior.esp CB Darkness Unleashed - Master.esp [Version 1.05] CC Darkness Unleashed - Bone Magick.esp [Version 1.05] CD Darkness Unleashed.esp [Version 1.05] CE Darkness Unleashed - Blood Magick.esp [Version 1.0] CF MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] D0 MCS extension.esp D1 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b] D2 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90] D3 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90] D4 MidasSpells.esp D5 Vector.esp [Version 0.4] D6 EnchantmentRemoval.esp D7 Real Time Lockpicking Minigames.esp D8 pmCrimeHandler.esp D9 kuerteeClothingMatters.esp DA Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] DB cancelattack.esp DC Unequip Broken Armor.esp [Version 2.8.2] DD One-Touch Dodge.esp DE MigBashing.esp [Version 1.3] DF No Load Screen on Death-5824.esp E0 mn_Revival.esp E1 Bundlement.esp [Version ision] E2 Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp ** DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp E3 zzEstrus.esp E4 zzContainerTrap English.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76] ** MOBSification of MODS.esp E5 Kaleencolors.esp E6 DemonRace.esp [Version 2.9.16] E7 Riddick Saber Claws.esp E8 AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp E9 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] ++ khajiittextfix.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.8b1] EA Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] EB Birthsigns Expanded.esp EC SnArrowEffects.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.36] ++ MigBashing - BlockDesc.esp ++ TWMP_Hammerfell - MOBS.esp ** TWMP_SkyrimImproved - MOBS.esp ++ LoversBreakArmor.esp ++ Replacer - Blackwood (mergeable).esp ++ Replacer - Dwarven (mergeable).esp ++ Replacer - Steel (mergeable).esp ++ MOO MOBS Patch.esp [Version 1.0] ED Bashed Patch, Oblivion.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp EE Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.8.2] EF GAMEPLAY - AGEHA Tortured Souls.esp F0 kalikuts_rosethornhallexpansion.esp F1 LoversMB2.esp F2 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp F3 LoversIdleAnimsPriority_MOO.esp F4 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Plugins Spoiler OBSE Version: 0.0.21.4 AddActorValues.dll AddActorValues_CS.dll AVUncapper.dll AVUncapper_CS.dll Blockhead.dll Version: 9.2.7.208 ConScribe.dll Version: 10.0.6.509 DisableVampRace.dll Elys_USV.dll EngineBugFixes.dll FastExit2.dll FractionalMagicDamage.dll MenuQue.dll MessageLogger.dll NifSE.dll OblivionReloaded.dll Version: 6.4.1.0 OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll obse_jail_fix.dll OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll obse_training_fix.dll playerphysics.dll SoundCommands.dll What is playerphysics.dll ???
Lamae Bal Posted March 4, 2018 Author Posted March 4, 2018 Hello fejeena. Thank you for pointing out playerphysics.dll - it's from Improved Movement Physics. https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/44164?tab=logs Must have conflicted with another plugin or physics mod im using. That appears to have been the culprit, as my game didn't crash this time. UPDATE: now after restarting the computer, for some reason I am crashing randomly when loading a game or making a new save and going to vilverin. Before, it was only happening after the animations. So I feel like this is a different issue, but I don't know how restarting made this happen... it was behaving this way before, when I determined the problem to be OSR, which I removed. So I don't get it, is it possible Windows 10 hates OBSE plugins? I don't get what the problem is but it seems every time i fix it, it goes wrong again. Never had an issue like this before upgrading.
fejeena Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Again the question....have you read my yellow Link ? This : https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching/ You have Oblivion not in C: program files (x86) You don't use Nexus Modmanager ( it can not install Lovers Mods or other Mods with ini folders ) You have the old DirectX9 files installed ? "DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010)" You have fixed your Load order ? ( the Delinquent MASTER: Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp ) After changing your load order you rebuild the BashedPatch? No Lovers Mods in the BashedPatch! You started a new game! No old save !
Lamae Bal Posted March 5, 2018 Author Posted March 5, 2018 I don't think any of those are the problem, although pretty sure DirectX 9 is obsolete on windows 10. I use TES Mod Manager and Wrye Bash and rebuild patch every time. I have Oblivion installed outside program files. Maskar's oblivion overhaul is intended to load below the bashed patch. I won't even be able to start a new game if I move it (it gives me message spam prior to the loading screen of new game, resulting in an eventual crash). I have been using old saves for many years and dont lose most of them. Pretty much the whole point of playing this game anymore for me is to play my old characters. But yes I have tried new games and when I coc to Vilverin it crashes after ~30 seconds. Ive had trouble getting Darn UI to install via Tes Mod Manager, and im beginning to suspect it could have been part of the issue because it can cause crashes if it wasnt properly installed, and it had some whiteness on the main load/save screen when i manually installed it, for some reason. I'm trying to reinstall those. By the way, why do you say to use BOSS instead of LOOT? I always used BOSS, but never got why LOOT wouldnt work for oblivion, as it seems to have a more updated masterlist.
gregathit Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 LOOT was developed for Skyrim and later games. So it is just a lick and promise as it doesn't have the 10 some odd years of feedback for Oblivion that BOSS has. Your call.
fejeena Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 DirectX: I don't know if Win10 have the files but I don't think so. Oblivion needs old DirectX files. Since Win7 ,or higher, they are no longer in the standard installation. You must install "DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010)" --------------------------- Your Bashed Patch You say: Maskar's oblivion overhaul is intended to load below the bashed patch. But you get the load order error message, your Bashed Patch miss a Masterfile. Missing masterfile can crash the game, or it crashes at start. When you want to load Maskar's oblivion overhaul below the bashed patch you must build the BashedPatch without Maskar's oblivion overhaul . ( And without ALL Lovers Mods ) ------------------------------- A old saves can crash your game if you have made many load order changes or you don't have some of the Mods you have used in your old save. Even if you have made a clean save ( wait 3 game days and create a new save, then all unused stuff was removed ) there can be still things in the save from the removed Mods. A crash near a specific location is often such a "old stuff in save" problem.
Lamae Bal Posted March 6, 2018 Author Posted March 6, 2018 Hmm... well I uninstalled Oblivion Reloaded and Darn UI, downgraded to old OBMM (as it doesnt get stupidly buggy installing stuff) and managed to reinstall Darn UI properly, things seemed to work, I get a giant pink square instead of sunlight for some reason - I am also using All Natural but never noticed this. I have of course, rebuilt the bashed patch since posting my load order. I still got some crashes though, then I tried installing DirectX9 - guess I only had 11 - and so far it's much more stable. So maybe that helped, or the issue could be with Oblivion Reloaded. It could have given me this graphical issue after uninstalling it, even though I reset the ini, but idk what would cause it. Anyway, thanks for the help so far. Seems to be playable for now, at least. UPDATE: Shit, I cannot wait 3 days. The game crashes if I wait longer than 1 day in the testinghall. Wtf could cause this? EDIT: Okay, looks like that doesn't happen on new saves. I just updated MOO, so it was probably that. Gonna try downgrade and salvage these saves I guess T_T EDIT: Well, for at least one save I was able to fix the crashes and the sunlight issue by doing Diff Masters, Update NPC Levels and Repair ABomb in Wrye Bash. dunno which one did it, but seem to have fixed all my problems. Thanks for all the help again.
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