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20 hours ago, lovesims62 said:

Hi Nisa,

I have since earlier tonight download the patch update. Of course after making a backup of the Sims 4 folder. The Gallery looks good, it seems working OK.

 

Thank you very much for the help. I have your mod too with Wicked Whims mod and Basemental drugs. Also MCCC mod. Wicked whims had since end of May this year an issue for me: i mentioned it in a post to Turbodriver, but he never give a reaction, it's pity.  Autonomy joining in sex with more than two Sims never happens on my own residential Lot anymore. When i am on a community Lot  there happens these interactions  autonomous with my Sim(s) and other Sims, exactly as i want. I do not understand, before May 25th all works fine, also on my own residential Lot, but now it does not happens  anymore. I tried anything to fix this, but i do not know how.

 

All great mods. Thanks for creating. Have a nice Day and thanks again.

Hey Lovesims62, 

I'm glad you got things mostly working.  As for your autonomy issue there isn't a bunch I can say for older versions of the game.  Most mod authors, including me, don't provide support for older versions.  There can be a plethora of issues going on here.  I suggest updating to the latest version of everything for compatibility issues like these.  

 

20 hours ago, Neodarkside said:

Got a suggestion, for the Lost Eden part of the mod. Getting phone calls asking you to meet them somewhere, any way to choose specific lots or always choose non-residential? Kinda odd to be invited for sex to someone elses house entirely. I've also lost a sim in another household when I got invited to a residential lot that neither belonged to and a sim with no cooking skills made breakfast and started a fire.

 

Otherwise I'm enjoying the mod so far.

That sounds like quite a story!  I'm not sure how a fire started there, anyways the sims going to non-owned lots has been solved and will be released soon to the public! 

 

14 hours ago, lovesims62 said:

Hi Nisa ,

 

I saw that when i placed the trait Sensually Tight and i came in my game the trait disappeared and not noticed in Simologie/traits of the sim. 

I do not know if you already knew that!

 

Greetz badmama62

 

*i placed the files direct in the mods folder

 

My CAS traits will only stay on player/played sims!  
 

I hope this clears things up for you! 

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On 9/16/2018 at 3:35 PM, Bishonen91 said:

 

 

Eden doesnt show up on the computer anymore, but my one sim that is a prostitute is called constantly for escort jobs. I placed the files in their own folder as the instructions said to, but im still unable to access this since the new update. Im also having the issues with the tears not disappearing.

When everything is loaded into the game, the stuck ST effects should be taken care of over time.  File depth is also important, the file path should look something like The Sims 4/Mods/NisasWickedPerversions/[mod file name].ts4script or package for example.  

Let me know if this helps! 
 

On 9/16/2018 at 3:41 PM, Master Lee said:

Thankfully, in a manner, no LE's are showing up. Have everything up to date, staying on top of that now. Have everything compartmented, to make it easier to do, with updates. Any how... on to the meat of the subject.

 

With regards to Tam Explorer, how do you find it to register as a prostitute.?

 

I tried looking for this, but not making heads or tails out of the descriptions. 

 

I have a computer, the unbreakable one... Ghost something or other. I have looked through each of the options when @ it to find it, but nothing shows up or else I am missing it. Any help on this is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Look at my above post on file depth, also if your computer is a CC computer then it may not be tagged correctly.  Try finding the tam explorer on a base game computer and let me know if this helps! 

 

 

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5 hours ago, NisaK said:
On 9/17/2018 at 6:38 PM, Neodarkside said:

Got a suggestion, for the Lost Eden part of the mod. Getting phone calls asking you to meet them somewhere, any way to choose specific lots or always choose non-residential? Kinda odd to be invited for sex to someone elses house entirely. I've also lost a sim in another household when I got invited to a residential lot that neither belonged to and a sim with no cooking skills made breakfast and started a fire.

 

Otherwise I'm enjoying the mod so far.

That sounds like quite a story!  I'm not sure how a fire started there, anyways the sims going to non-owned lots has been solved and will be released soon to the public! 

Had a sim that has zero cooking skill try and make breakfast, he lit the stove on fire. Had this happen twice now. First time I visited a apartment building to a NPC and they did the same thing, a sim that doesn't usually do any cooking decided to cook and started a fire. Couldn't reach them in time and they burned to death. Either way, glad to see its resolved :)

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6 hours ago, NisaK said:
21 hours ago, lovesims62 said:

I saw that when i placed the trait Sensually Tight and i came in my game the trait disappeared and not noticed in Simologie/traits of the sim. 

I do not know if you already knew that!

 

Greetz badmama62

 

*i placed the files direct in the mods folder

 

My CAS traits will only stay on player/played sims!  
 

I hope this clears things up for you! 

Hey Nisa, 

I have now opened a other save with one sim, i played with her. But the trait Sensually tight disappeared in cas, when i came back in cas and also disappeared,/not mentioned by the traits of this sim.

Did i missed something, maybe it is a hidden trait, because i did not found or see the trait back after choosing  in cas.

All my mods are updated, gameversion 1.46

Greetz

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Ok... I took out the mods I had, inside the folder, that I installed (that I mentioned of having compartmented, to ease update replacement) then, created a separate folder, with ''nothing'' but wicked whims mod & lost eden items ''only'', following the list @ the first page in this post. End results... even with trying every single computer in the game, still could not get tam explorer to show up in computer menu... am @ a loss about it...

 

List in folders was as follows:

 

C:\Users\nunya\Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods

 

with only folders in mods as follows:

 

Mods/WickedWhims

         /NisaK/LostEden

 

In this order.

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Hello! I adore this mod, but I'm having just a slight issue. I updated it last night but didn't get time to play until now. I'm trying to make my Sim into a prostitute for a Rags to Riches challenge I'm running, but the Tam Explorer isn't showing up on the library's computer. Does it have to be a certain type of computer?

 

I also received this last exception a few minutes ago, if maybe that has something to do with it. 

 

Nisas_Last_Exception.txt

 

 

 

*Edit* I figured out the computer issue. I downloaded the file E instead of D. I deleted E and downloaded D, so that solved that issue. Thank you! 

 

*Edit Again* Everything was going great and my Sim was about to get paid for her services and then I got another two exceptions and no payment. What's going on, please? This is really ruining the experience.

 

Nisas_Last_Exception.txt

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2 hours ago, VolsDoll said:

Hello! I adore this mod, but I'm having just a slight issue. I updated it last night but didn't get time to play until now. I'm trying to make my Sim into a prostitute for a Rags to Riches challenge I'm running, but the Tam Explorer isn't showing up on the library's computer. Does it have to be a certain type of computer?

 

I also received this last exception a few minutes ago, if maybe that has something to do with it. 

 

Nisas_Last_Exception.txt

 

 

 

*Edit* I figured out the computer issue. I downloaded the file E instead of D. I deleted E and downloaded D, so that solved that issue. Thank you! 

 

*Edit Again* Everything was going great and my Sim was about to get paid for her services and then I got another two exceptions and no payment. What's going on, please? This is really ruining the experience.

 

Nisas_Last_Exception.txt

Hey VolsDoll!

 

Thank you for your LEs!  I'm sorry your having a rough time! 

So this looks like my save data got corrupted.  I'm aware with the cause and a fix is on my list (it's a problem not with my code but with the programming language that sims 4 uses, so the fix will be a bit complicated).  Anyways, in the meantime the best way to fix this issue is to go into your The Sims 4/saves folder. Back up (do it!) the WickedPerversionsMod folder before deleting it.  Don't worry about your saves, they are fine, you will just have to reset the settings for my mod! 

Let me know if you have anymore problems! 
 

4 hours ago, Zer0P0int said:

First, I thank you for the help 

second I can't seem to find your mod save data folder just wicked 

Oops! 

 

Sorry Zer0P0int!  When I responded to you I think I may have got your LE confused with someone else's!  Are you sure your Wicked Whims is up to date? Gosh every time when you start a game?  It sounds like you may have saved during a sex animation playing and maybe the sex_handler data was lost between saves?  If you try initializing sex past the LE then do you continue to get the LE when Sex ends?

 

16 hours ago, Master Lee said:

Ok... I took out the mods I had, inside the folder, that I installed (that I mentioned of having compartmented, to ease update replacement) then, created a separate folder, with ''nothing'' but wicked whims mod & lost eden items ''only'', following the list @ the first page in this post. End results... even with trying every single computer in the game, still could not get tam explorer to show up in computer menu... am @ a loss about it...

 

List in folders was as follows:

 

C:\Users\nunya\Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods

 

with only folders in mods as follows:

 

Mods/WickedWhims

         /NisaK/LostEden

 

In this order.

Oh my, so your file path for my mod files is: C:\Users\nunya\Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods\WickedWhims\NisaK\LostEden ?  That is very not good, all my files should be located in the file path C:\Users\nunya\Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods\NisasWickedPerversions\ then my 3 files.  

 

17 hours ago, lovesims62 said:

Hey Nisa, 

I have now opened a other save with one sim, i played with her. But the trait Sensually tight disappeared in cas, when i came back in cas and also disappeared,/not mentioned by the traits of this sim.

Did i missed something, maybe it is a hidden trait, because i did not found or see the trait back after choosing  in cas.

All my mods are updated, gameversion 1.46

Greetz

Hmmm, like I said there is a system I use that removes my CAS traits from NPC sims.  Is it possible you have some sort of mod installed that messes with this flag?

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Great mod. It makes my game very realistic. Maybe (but not really) too extra realistic for me. I am still shocked. My sim male used the milky condom on a random he hooked up with in the park. He takes her out afterwards. After their date ends I leave him unattended for 1 minute and turn to see he is drinking his own splooge which I was going to insert into sperm bank. I was too late to stop it. Just had to share that. Not something I was expecting. Great mod thanks again.

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1 hour ago, babylove3570 said:

Great mod. It makes my game very realistic. Maybe (but not really) too extra realistic for me. I am still shocked. My sim male used the milky condom on a random he hooked up with in the park. He takes her out afterwards. After their date ends I leave him unattended for 1 minute and turn to see he is drinking his own splooge which I was going to insert into sperm bank. I was too late to stop it. Just had to share that. Not something I was expecting. Great mod thanks again.

OMG that happened to my sim too! so funny :)

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6 hours ago, NisaK said:

 

Oh my, so your file path for my mod files is: C:\Users\nunya\Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods\WickedWhims\NisaK\LostEden ?  That is very not good, all my files should be located in the file path C:\Users\nunya\Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods\NisasWickedPerversions\ then my 3 files.  

 

Ok, so after a bit of creative renaming, checking folders & all... can finally... finally.... F..I..N..A..L..L..yyyy *rubs hands gleefully, mad scientist like* report... Succeessssss...!!!! *evil mad scientist laugh* I can get to Tam Explorer, with either my mega mod pack, or the test mod pack I set up, mentioned before, in my 1st post about this. Needless to say, I now have the mega mod pack installed. My thank to ya, Nisa... you shined the light on where to look to straighten out the morass of this jurassic snafu. :)

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6 hours ago, NisaK said:
23 hours ago, lovesims62 said:

Hey Nisa, 

I have now opened a other save with one sim, i played with her. But the trait Sensually tight disappeared in cas, when i came back in cas and also disappeared,/not mentioned by the traits of this sim.

Did i missed something, maybe it is a hidden trait, because i did not found or see the trait back after choosing  in cas.

All my mods are updated, gameversion 1.46

Greetz

Hmmm, like I said there is a system I use that removes my CAS traits from NPC sims.  Is it possible you have some sort of mod installed that messes with this flag?

Nisa,

My mods on this moment are: Wicked Whims, Basemental Dr,  nisa's ww perversions, walkstylesdisabled, MCCC, allbedsgivesameenergy, Electronics work in the rain.

 

But i have tried yesterday something else.

 

1)I have made a whole new household with a whole new game. I give the female the trait Sensually Tight in CAS and i begin to play. Most times i am looking to my game and let the game autonomous do her work. Now the trait Sensually Tight not disappeared and stays.

 

2)I am normally playing with basic made saves with houses and sims made by myself. I have made a new Sim (cas) in an existing household with the Sensually Tight trait. I add her to my  played household. And the Sim also has the trait Sensually Tight , it does not disappear.

 

It seems that it does not work on existing Sims, which are already in the game.

 

Sorry for my bad English, i hope you can understand what i mean.

Thanks for your help.

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Hello there!

 

I'm really interested in this mod, so I downloaded it for the first time a couple of days ago. The thing is, I cannot get it to work on my game.

 

With the mod files on my Mods folder (just a folder deep, so they would be on Documents/Electronic Arts/The Sims 4/Mods/Wicked Perversions, for example), the game opens up fine, CAS works fine (the mod's CAS traits seem to work), building mode works fine. However, when I try to enter live mode with any household, in any save file, the game crashes with a very curious error. I have attached a file with a screen of this error- I say it's curious because I have never seen it related to TS4 before.

 

As soon as I delete or move the mod's files out of the Mods folder, the game works as always and I can access live mode without problems.

 

My game is fully updated, and the only other mods I have are WW and Basemental, which are also up to date (to the latest public releases).

 

Any ideas about this error? Thank you in advance!

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2 hours ago, Wizard Of The North said:

Hello there!

 

I'm really interested in this mod, so I downloaded it for the first time a couple of days ago. The thing is, I cannot get it to work on my game.

 

With the mod files on my Mods folder (just a folder deep, so they would be on Documents/Electronic Arts/The Sims 4/Mods/Wicked Perversions, for example), the game opens up fine, CAS works fine (the mod's CAS traits seem to work), building mode works fine. However, when I try to enter live mode with any household, in any save file, the game crashes with a very curious error. I have attached a file with a screen of this error- I say it's curious because I have never seen it related to TS4 before.

 

As soon as I delete or move the mod's files out of the Mods folder, the game works as always and I can access live mode without problems.

 

My game is fully updated, and the only other mods I have are WW and Basemental, which are also up to date (to the latest public releases).

 

Any ideas about this error? Thank you in advance!

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2 questions come to mind...

 

1. How do you have the game installed... off disk or download off the internet... sub question to 1., pirated copy or bought & paid for...

 

2. Do you have Wicked Whims installed, as well as Nisa's Wicked Perversions mod.?

 

I have it from a download, paid for through Origin, which is why I ask... an have no issues running any mod thus far, with exception to outdated mods, which I religiously keep on top of, to ensure they are up to date, and having some files not properly placed. Might be a good place to start looking for why you are runing into issues with Sims 4, if your copy of Sims 4, is a bought & paid for copy... else, if it is pirated, then no idea what to tell you on that front... as I don't deal with pirated stuff... just sayin'. :) Hope this helps.

 

p.s. 1 other thing, might run a check on the version you have & verify that it is up to date with any & all patches, since Sims 4 was released, would be another thing to check on. Make sure it (the game) is up to date... think it is like version 1.46 . Any way to check it, do as follows:

 

To ensure your game is up to date, check the game version found in Documents > Electronic Arts > The Sims 4 > GameVersion.txt. Your game should now read: 1.46.18.1020

 

Again, hope this helps... :)

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8 hours ago, Master Lee said:

1. How do you have the game installed... off disk or download off the internet... sub question to 1., pirated copy or bought & paid for...

 

2. Do you have Wicked Whims installed, as well as Nisa's Wicked Perversions mod.?

 

Hello, and thanks for your answer! To address your questions:

 

1. My game is an original copy from Origin. I have the base game, all expansions and game packs, and a couple of stuff packs. The version I'm running is 1.46.18.1020, from the middle of August, I think. Origin didn't ask me for a patch dowload since then.

 

I get where you come from, though. When you try to open the game without having it patched to the latest patch (having Origin offline, for example), the game gives you a similar error ("insert disk" or something like that) and closes even before the title screen. This is not the case of the error I'm having with the mod, as I can open the game, use CAS, use build mode, and crashes on live mode.

 

2. Yes, of course. For a while, it was the only mod I had installed. Then, when I tried to install Wicked Perversions, I added Basemental too, as it's listed as a requierement of Wicked Perversions. I'm on Wicked Whims version 3.3.4.133b, from August 31st, and on Basemental version 1.3.1.65. (Another thing I tried was to get Basemental out of the Mods folder, so it was just WW and Wicked Perversions, but the error persisted.)

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20 hours ago, babylove3570 said:

Great mod. It makes my game very realistic. Maybe (but not really) too extra realistic for me. I am still shocked. My sim male used the milky condom on a random he hooked up with in the park. He takes her out afterwards. After their date ends I leave him unattended for 1 minute and turn to see he is drinking his own splooge which I was going to insert into sperm bank. I was too late to stop it. Just had to share that. Not something I was expecting. Great mod thanks again.

LOL

 

OMG

 

That's hilarious!  You know, I have heard about guys tasting their own product before ?  

Lol, I'll have to see if there's anything I can do about that!  

 

16 hours ago, Master Lee said:

Ok, so after a bit of creative renaming, checking folders & all... can finally... finally.... F..I..N..A..L..L..yyyy *rubs hands gleefully, mad scientist like* report... Succeessssss...!!!! *evil mad scientist laugh* I can get to Tam Explorer, with either my mega mod pack, or the test mod pack I set up, mentioned before, in my 1st post about this. Needless to say, I now have the mega mod pack installed. My thank to ya, Nisa... you shined the light on where to look to straighten out the morass of this jurassic snafu. :)

Glad we were able to get it sorted out!  Keep it up with your mad science ;) 
 

16 hours ago, lovesims62 said:

Nisa,

My mods on this moment are: Wicked Whims, Basemental Dr,  nisa's ww perversions, walkstylesdisabled, MCCC, allbedsgivesameenergy, Electronics work in the rain.

 

But i have tried yesterday something else.

 

1)I have made a whole new household with a whole new game. I give the female the trait Sensually Tight in CAS and i begin to play. Most times i am looking to my game and let the game autonomous do her work. Now the trait Sensually Tight not disappeared and stays.

 

2)I am normally playing with basic made saves with houses and sims made by myself. I have made a new Sim (cas) in an existing household with the Sensually Tight trait. I add her to my  played household. And the Sim also has the trait Sensually Tight , it does not disappear.

 

It seems that it does not work on existing Sims, which are already in the game.

 

Sorry for my bad English, i hope you can understand what i mean.

Thanks for your help.

That's very strange.  Sometimes old saves with sims just naturally become corrupted.  It's not common but it can happen.  This is the first of this sort of problem which I've heard reported.  Hmmmm, maybe... did you get your sims originally from the gallery?  Someone could have uploaded corrupted sims? 
 

 

3 hours ago, Wizard Of The North said:

 

Hello, and thanks for your answer! To address your questions:

 

1. My game is an original copy from Origin. I have the base game, all expansions and game packs, and a couple of stuff packs. The version I'm running is 1.46.18.1020, from the middle of August, I think. Origin didn't ask me for a patch dowload since then.

 

I get where you come from, though. When you try to open the game without having it patched to the latest patch (having Origin offline, for example), the game gives you a similar error ("insert disk" or something like that) and closes even before the title screen. This is not the case of the error I'm having with the mod, as I can open the game, use CAS, use build mode, and crashes on live mode.

 

2. Yes, of course. For a while, it was the only mod I had installed. Then, when I tried to install Wicked Perversions, I added Basemental too, as it's listed as a requierement of Wicked Perversions. I'm on Wicked Whims version 3.3.4.133b, from August 31st, and on Basemental version 1.3.1.65. (Another thing I tried was to get Basemental out of the Mods folder, so it was just WW and Wicked Perversions, but the error persisted.)

Hey Wizard Of The North! 


I've heard about a similar issue from a few others on here but nothing with those drive letters.  Very odd.  Do you have your game files split across multiple drives (especially if one is a ssd and the other is a hdd)?  How do you have your game installed?  

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2 hours ago, NisaK said:

Hey Wizard Of The North! 


I've heard about a similar issue from a few others on here but nothing with those drive letters.  Very odd.  Do you have your game files split across multiple drives (especially if one is a ssd and the other is a hdd)?  How do you have your game installed?  

Hello, Nisa! Thank you for the support!

 

Yes, it strikes me as a very odd error indeed! I have Origin and TS4 installed in the same drive, a hdd, which is a different drive from where I have Windows installed. Do you think I should try installing the game in the Windows drive? I know some games and programs recommend installing under the classic Program Files folder; I never had any issues with TS4 being installed in a different drive, but I can try. (I do have the Mods folder, along with the entire The Sims 4 folder that contains the saves, tray files, etc. on the Windows drive, as it is always created on the My Documents folder.)

 

Googling about it, it seems that this error is Windows related- People seem to have it over all kinds of programs. What I find strange is that it just pops up when I have this mod on my Mods folder, while WW and Basemental work fine.

 

I'll try to redownload and install at least Origin and the base game on my Windows drive and try the mod again!

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3 minutes ago, Wizard Of The North said:

Hello, Nisa! Thank you for the support!

 

Yes, it strikes me as a very odd error indeed! I have Origin and TS4 installed in the same drive, a hdd, which is a different drive from where I have Windows installed. Do you think I should try installing the game in the Windows drive? I know some games and programs recommend installing under the classic Program Files folder; I never had any issues with TS4 being installed in a different drive, but I can try. (I do have the Mods folder, along with the entire The Sims 4 folder that contains the saves, tray files, etc. on the Windows drive, as it is always created on the My Documents folder.)

 

Googling about it, it seems that this error is Windows related- People seem to have it over all kinds of programs. What I find strange is that it just pops up when I have this mod on my Mods folder, while WW and Basemental work fine.

 

I'll try to redownload and install at least Origin and the base game on my Windows drive and try the mod again!

Me, I have Origin launcher, all the mods, zipped/unzipped over on my D drive, base game & expansions/game packs on C drive with mods installed on C, as well... with game set up outside of C/Program Files or Program Files(x86). They are installed in their own folder I have set up as C/Games/*insert game here* folder.... works great, as most games nowadays, don't handle mods all that well in either windows controlled folders Program Files or Files(x86) from what I've been told.

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5 hours ago, NisaK said:
On 9/20/2018 at 1:06 AM, babylove3570 said:

Great mod. It makes my game very realistic. Maybe (but not really) too extra realistic for me. I am still shocked. My sim male used the milky condom on a random he hooked up with in the park. He takes her out afterwards. After their date ends I leave him unattended for 1 minute and turn to see he is drinking his own splooge which I was going to insert into sperm bank. I was too late to stop it. Just had to share that. Not something I was expecting. Great mod thanks again.

LOL

 

OMG

 

That's hilarious!  You know, I have heard about guys tasting their own product before ?  

Lol, I'll have to see if there's anything I can do about that!  

 

23 hours ago, Master Lee said:

Ok, so after a bit of creative renaming, checking folders & all... can finally... finally.... F..I..N..A..L..L..yyyy *rubs hands gleefully, mad scientist like* report... Succeessssss...!!!! *evil mad scientist laugh* I can get to Tam Explorer, with either my mega mod pack, or the test mod pack I set up, mentioned before, in my 1st post about this. Needless to say, I now have the mega mod pack installed. My thank to ya, Nisa... you shined the light on where to look to straighten out the morass of this jurassic snafu. :)

Glad we were able to get it sorted out!  Keep it up with your mad science ;) 
 

23 hours ago, lovesims62 said:

Nisa,

My mods on this moment are: Wicked Whims, Basemental Dr,  nisa's ww perversions, walkstylesdisabled, MCCC, allbedsgivesameenergy, Electronics work in the rain.

 

But i have tried yesterday something else.

 

1)I have made a whole new household with a whole new game. I give the female the trait Sensually Tight in CAS and i begin to play. Most times i am looking to my game and let the game autonomous do her work. Now the trait Sensually Tight not disappeared and stays.

 

2)I am normally playing with basic made saves with houses and sims made by myself. I have made a new Sim (cas) in an existing household with the Sensually Tight trait. I add her to my  played household. And the Sim also has the trait Sensually Tight , it does not disappear.

 

It seems that it does not work on existing Sims, which are already in the game.

 

Sorry for my bad English, i hope you can understand what i mean.

Thanks for your help.

That's very strange.  Sometimes old saves with sims just naturally become corrupted.  It's not common but it can happen.  This is the first of this sort of problem which I've heard reported.  Hmmmm, maybe... did you get your sims originally from the gallery?  Someone could have uploaded corrupted sims? 

No, i made my Sims by myself. Save them to the library and bring them back in my game if i needed them.

Greetz.

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When I got this my prostitute didn't get paid but that's all everything else seemed to be working fine.
Nisas_Last_Exception.txt

Also, I'm not sure why but my prostitute's mother constantly calls at an escort call center trying to buy her daughters time ? She is the most frequent caller ever. I don't have incest enabled or as a trait and have never had them have a good time together. Her brother also calls but not as frequently and her father never calls. ?‍♀️

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