Installation Guide with Lovers, MBP and Wyre with Bashed Patch

[panthyr]

Razarkis, massive respect and gratitude to you for taking the time and meticulous effort to provide this superb tuturial for the Lovers Lab, Oblivion, and gaming community generally!

[Bladabli]

Is Ozmo's texture replacer necessary? I can't find a download that isn't from nexus, and I gotta pay for membership to download that. 

[Bladabli]

Also, I have the Asian race mod, which is compatible with beautiful people. Can I make it compatible with Lovers?

[gregathit]

Also, I have the Asian race mod, which is compatible with beautiful people. Can I make it compatible with Lovers?

 

Unless the race mod does something really odd with custom skeletons or such then it should work just fine with Lovers.  Lovers core files don't care much what beautification mod you use.  Some plugins have particular requirements but you need to read the OP to see what they are.

[Bladabli]

What about the penis and vagina animations and textures for that custom race? Or does Beautiful Body compatible take care of that?

[gregathit]

Animations have zero to do with body types for the most part.  Animations are a set of instructions for the skeleton.  Thus as long as the skeleton is compatible then you'll be fine.

[LibertyPrime]

Hello, I'm new to Oblivion modding in general (and consequently to LWPK), and I have a few questions which replies I did not find in the FAQ. These are not issues, so I felt that I should post them here. Nonetheless, if not appropriate, I'll move the post to another section/thread.
 

1 - I have seen a few dozens of images/gifs of threesomes/gangbangs. How do I access them?
2 - The installation guide mentions that using all the DLCs is not adviced. Why exactly? Do any of them conflict with Lovers with PK?
3 - Do I absolutely *NEED* to install the race + 'beautification' package MBP++? What if I already have a specific race in mind and I want to use that one? No offense, but I don't really see the point of installing it if over half of the races are broken (in my case, at least).
4 - Is there a way to make monster genitalia always show up, not only during sex?
5 - I was skimming through the "Download" section, and I saw both the "Lovers Animated Penis Resource Pack" and "Lovers Animated Penis Base Pack". Are they already included in the latest version of LWPK or do I need to download them separately?
6 - Related to 3: If the answer is yes, if I want to use one of the broken races, can I just install it separately (after MPB++) and overwrite everything?

[gregathit]

1.  Lovers had one plugin that supported threesomes but it was so awefully buggy that it is no longer around.  The gifs you see are pose mods that are not part of lovers.

2.  The only DLC that is "required" is the Shivering Isles.  While the core plugins for LPK don't require it, many of the plugins do.  The other DLC is optional.  You can use or not use as you see fit.  Myself, I use the Fighers Stronghold, Wizards Tower, Knights of the Nine and Mehrunes' Razor DLC's.  I don't use the others as they don't blow my skirt up....so to speak.      You can use any of them or none of them as you choose.

3.  You only need MBP 1.4a AND MBP++ v98a IF the LPK plugin requires it.  The core framework for LPK doesn't give a crap what race beautification mod you use.  

NOTE:  There are some no-MBP versions of some plugins out there so be sure to look for those if the LPK plugin you are looking at does require them.

4.  Yes.  You have to install one of the creature replacer resource packs (Fejeena has one and so does Iron_Jack).   Just look in the downloads section.  

NOTE:  Remember that you will need to archive invalidate via bsa redirection with OBMM or Wrye to get these to show up in game if you have not already.

5.  You need to read the OP of the AP Resource and Base packs.  They clearly state that they are alternate versions of the core framework.  Reading OP's (Opening Post) is VERY important for LPK plugins.....unless you want to pull your hair out in frustration that is.....

6.  What?  I don't understand what you think this will accomplish.  I don't advise it.  I also don't know what you mean by broken.

[LibertyPrime]

*snip*

 

Thanks for the quick reply. That pretty much wraps it up, except for 6.

 

I installed MBP++. However, one of the races I want to use is one of the 'messed up' races as mentioned in the tutorial. I'm fairly sure I installed it correctly, and by broken/messed up I mean: missing hair, missing descriptions, custom race faces showing up as vanilla faces (which is sorta funny, because the x117, for instance, is simply a miniature vanilla race), etc.

So, my question is, can I somehow "fix" the messed up races by installing them (obviously not every single one of them, just a couple that I wanna play as) separately, overwriting MBP++'s files?

[gregathit]

You did install MBP 1.4a prior to installing MBP++ right?  If not that could be part of why the race(s) is(are) messed up.  Beyond that, I can't tell you much unless you identify the particular race or races that you are having an issue with.

[LibertyPrime]

You did install MBP 1.4a prior to installing MBP++ right?  If not that could be part of why the race(s) is(are) messed up.  Beyond that, I can't tell you much unless you identify the particular race or races that you are having an issue with.

 

I followed the tutorial step-by-step. Did I miss something? In the MBP++ page, it says it includes MBP 1.4a already, so I downloaded and installed the "full omod" version. Now that you mention it, it says in the description that it fixed the x117 race, and mine is messed up, so I must've done something wrong, even though I followed the tutorial.

[gregathit]

Not sure.  I personally never used that version.  I used this one: http://www.4shared.com/file/YIiGYrCl/MBP14aFullMBP094ax117078allin1.html

The only downside is I had to fully install MBP++ and the MBP++ chocolate elf addon over top of it to bring things up to snuff with the latest lovers plugins.

The MBP++ I use to install overtop was this one:  http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/37368/?

 

Sorry I can't be of much more help.

[LibertyPrime]

Not sure.  I personally never used that version.  I used this one: http://www.4shared.com/file/YIiGYrCl/MBP14aFullMBP094ax117078allin1.html

The only downside is I had to fully install MBP++ and the MBP++ chocolate elf addon over top of it to bring things up to snuff with the latest lovers plugins.

The MBP++ I use to install overtop was this one:  http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/37368/?

 

Sorry I can't be of much more help.

 

That was a lot of help. I'd suggest you guys to check out the full OMOD version I installed (the one over at http://www.loverslab.com/topic/2590-mbp-allin1-omod-v21beta/), it's definitely broken. I'll reinstall MBP with the links you provided and report back.

[LibertyPrime]

So I installed MBP with the links provided by you and I do in fact see that now most races work, but a few do not, like the x117 one. When I select it, it's just a small nord character with different eye colour.

Also, I noticed that I don't have a few of the plugins (that I guess are supposed to appear) when I compared my load order with the recommended load order, i.e.Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp, Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp, x117race.esp (I do have it's ESM, thought), x117Race ENG Race.esp, 16 Lop-ears Elf.esp, etc; some of which I did not previously have when I installed the oMOD version, but now it seems that I'm missing even more races in my load order, even though most of them do in fact show up in-game. Is this normal?

[gregathit]

You need to look in the options folders for the MBP++ install.  They should be there.

[LibertyPrime]

You need to look in the options folders for the MBP++ install.  They should be there.

 

Optional files only had (apparently) alternate ESPs for the existing ones in the main data folder.

However, consider this minor issue solved. I've tested all races and they're all working, so no biggie.

[gregathit]

I recommend switching to an older version of Wrye.  The new versions don't seem to work very well.

 

Try installing version 295:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/oblivionworks/files/Wrye%20Bash/Wrye%20Bash%20295/

[LibertyPrime]

danger

awful English

I can not open wrye bash, when I click it I get this error ..... Microsoft Visual C + + Runtime Vibrary, This application has requested the Runtime to terminate in an unusual way

reinstall the program does not work

Wrye Bash 304

D:\Documents and Settings\User\Oblivion\Mopy

 

I'm reinstalling oblivion and wrye bash and I have already used this in oblivion a few months ago and I had no problem please help

 

A lot of people are getting this error, apparently. I myself was having it, until I downloaded the newest beta provided by the developers.

 

http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/22368/?tab=4&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D22368%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D100238&pUp=1

 

Scroll down for the link.

Or, if you don't wanna waste time: skydrive.live.com/?cid=9f61a5aecc45e5e9&id=9F61A5AECC45E5E9 !105 (remove the space between the link and "!105" - LL is cutting it for some reason).

[gregathit]

Or just stick with version 295 as it works perfectly.  The 300 series of Wrye isn't done by the original Wrye Bash team anymore and to be frank, it fucks up more stuff than it fixed.  None of the 300 series versions have any added benefits from 295 that I have ever seen, and they have a shit load of bugs and errors.  Waste of time bothering with it IMHO.

[Swyke]

As I am thinking about a complete reinstallation of an LPKed Oblivion (ran into to manny issues with my first and noobish installation) I would like to ask ...

1.) if it is necessary or recomended to use any female body-replacer when using SetBody ( http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/52-setbody-reloaded/) - I love this mod, it's plenty of fun, to change my pretty PC from tiny schoolgirl to monsterwoman and back - You still need the skeleton, when using SetBody, right?

2.) I am using a non-english oblivion (german) and I don't want to change anything, so I don't want to install a complete overhaul. Are there any recoemendable beautyfying mods (clothing, armors, landscapes ...) I can use and should not miss?

 

OK, thats all for now. Thank you for your patience.

 

 

 

[FallenWarrior]

this is the list that I always go by when making oblivion look better http://www.loverslab.com/topic/807-optomizing-world-detail-and-graphic-in-oblivion-ver101-08102011pic-in-spoiler/

PYFFIed meshes http://www.loverslab.com/topic/1447-pyffied-mesh-and-high-rez-oily-texture-for-mbpxeo/

If you want to make your characters look better there's Ozmo's, MBP and Xeo SP++ (links for the first two can be found on the first page in this thread) http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8893-installation-guide-with-lovers-mbp-and-wyre-with-bashed-patch/ Xeo SP++ http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15185-xeo-sp/

 

For body mods, There's either HGEC or DMRA for females and Robert's Male Body Replacer for males.(there's also BBB = Better Bouncing Boobs) http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8-bbb-better-bouncing-boobs/

As for skeleton, I tend to use Growlf's  (Total Controlable), it's included in the main file. The third link contains the links for the mentioned body replacers and skeleton.

 

[youngfool]

Thank you so much for this complete guide for idiots like me, cheers!

[JSmith20142]

Note that the LAPF (Lovers Animated Penis Framework) _requires_ use of the skeleton included in the LAPF, a modified version of Growlf's Total Controllable skelly.

 

[A1234]

Please excuse me for asking, but BBB (the version he links under 6) doesn't work with Growls Skeletton, right? (It says so, and I tried) Do i need Growl for Lovers etc.? Or did I just get the guide wrong?

Thanks for every given answer.

[fejeena]

All BBB bodies works fine with Growls Skeleton the "Controlable Skeleton".

Some BBB Body Mods have a included Skeleton, DO NOT USE IT, install the "Controlable Skeleton".

And if you use LAPF use the LAPF Skeleton (let it override the "Controlable Skeleton") it is the same Skeleton with additional penis bones. You need the Skeleton to play LAPF and of course it works fine with all BBB bodies.