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Saving Sexout/addons perks and stats before update and restoring after?


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Sexout stats may only be a curiosity, but there are already addons (SexoutLust, Tryout) that add perks - buy-able even, in case of SexoutLust. So losing them when clean-save updating Sexout/addons is quite a bummer.

 

I just saw an addon for WSEX that saves stats for restoration, so maybe someone could make a similar one (but with perks, as well) for Sexout? I'm guessing it's probably a nigh-impossible task, so this is kind of a long shot, but better that I ask than not. :)

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Tried using the console command to give myself the perk (player.addperk [perk's formid]), but the message in the console said it can't find such FormID. I was using the one I looked up with FNVEdit, so why wouldn't the game accept it? :-/

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You sure you set the mod index on the form ID properly?

 

As for saving, NX could be modified to do something like that, but the kinds of things it can save and properly load would be limited. What exactly is wsex saving? Just sex counts and stuff?

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Oh note that anything in sexout itself is already 'immune' to clean saves as long as you don't "clean" sexout out as well. If you're just trying to reset some other mods status, disable that mod (but not sexout), load and save, and core sexout values will be unaffected.

 

If you're making a clean save for something like tryouts or pregnancy for example, you just have to disable those -- not sexout itself.

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You sure you set the mod index on the form ID properly?

Er' date=' "mod index"? Now I [i']know[/i] I must be doing something wrong. :D

I just type the FormID as found in FNVEdit. That's not right, isn't it? :blush:

 

What exactly is wsex saving? Just sex counts and stuff?

Yep, as far as I can tell. But for Sexout and its addon, I was hoping for something that could save perks, as well, if at all possible. For example, check the perks the character has for ones that have SNG statistics in its requirements and stash those perks away to be applied after a clean update.

...but that's probably more work than anyone would be willing to do, which I understand.

 

Oh note that anything in sexout itself is already 'immune' to clean saves as long as you don't "clean" sexout out as well. If you're just trying to reset some other mods status' date=' disable that mod (but not sexout), load and save, and core sexout values will be unaffected.

 

If you're making a clean save for something like tryouts or pregnancy for example, you just have to disable those -- not sexout itself.[/quote']

Yep, I know that much. But - for example - will Tryout's perks be immediately given to my character after I clean-update Tryouts (without removing SNG) and SNG statistics meet the perks' requirements? And do prostitution level/experience save in SNG, so I can continue from where I left off after updating Tryouts?

 

The bigger problem, though, is when we need to update SNG itself (and you update it more often than some of the addons ;)). Since perks from addons rely on SNG statistics, it pretty much means the character is wiped clean, Sexout-wise. If you could implement statistic saving, that alone would be a huge help. :)

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You sure you set the mod index on the form ID properly?

Er' date=' "mod index"? Now I [i']know[/i] I must be doing something wrong. :D

I just type the FormID as found in FNVEdit. That's not right, isn't it? :blush:

 

No. Like everywhere else you use a form ID, the first two digits need to be replaced with the mod index (load order #) of the form you're trying to use. The ones show in FNVEdit will only match if when you open FNVEdit, you let it load everything that was in your load order. If you just select one or two files, then the first two digits of the form ID are going to be wrong.

 

What exactly is wsex saving? Just sex counts and stuff?

Yep' date=' as far as I can tell. But for Sexout and its addon, I was hoping for something that could save perks, as well, if at all possible.

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Might be possible, but it will not be close to easy. The best solution is to get the perks moved into SCR and out of the individual mods. This will allow you to 'clean save' the individual mod without affecting the perk.

 

Yep' date=' I know that much. But - for example - will Tryout's perks be immediately given to my character after I clean-update Tryouts (without removing SNG) and SNG statistics meet the perks' requirements?

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Generally yes, however, those perks would have to actually be using the NG stats -- and I do not believe they are. Alternatively, NX variables could be used. For example, if the working girl 'tricks' variable was stored in NX instead of in a tryouts quest (as it is now), then it would never be lost -- even if you *did* make a clean save of NG -- as NX variables have to do with NX, and not with individual mods.

 

The only exception to that are the NX form variables. If the form IDs mod index references a mod that is no longer available, then the value is (and must be) discarded.

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The bigger problem' date=' though, is when we need to update SNG itself (and you update it more often than some of the addons ;)). Since perks from addons rely on SNG statistics, it pretty much means the character is wiped clean, Sexout-wise. If you could implement statistic saving, that alone would be a huge help. :)

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That's only a problem if you "make it one." Sexout itself basically *never* needs a clean save. When it does, which is extremely rare, I mention it.

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No. Like everywhere else you use a form ID' date=' the first two digits need to be replaced with the mod index (load order #) of the form you're trying to use. The ones show in FNVEdit will only match if when you open FNVEdit, you let it load everything that was in your load order. If you just select one or two files, then the first two digits of the form ID are going to be wrong.[/quote']

Oh. And here I was going to turn adding each perk into an executable text file...

Well, at least, now I know how to add those perks properly. Thanks. :)

 

Sexout itself basically *never* needs a clean save. When it does' date=' which is extremely rare, I mention it.[/quote']

I've taken to "clean save" like a mantra for updating everything, and now you tell me my suffering has been for naught! :D

Next thing I'll find out, SCR doesn't need regular clean updates, either...

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Almost nothing does.. the few mods that do need it, mention it, but in general none of them do. It's just something you do when your know that data in the save is corrupt, or you want to start a quest over. What you're telling me is all the work I put into the version # update script thing in sexout, so people don't need clean saves, has been for naught! ;)

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No. Like everywhere else you use a form ID' date=' the first two digits need to be replaced with the mod index (load order #) of the form you're trying to use. The ones show in FNVEdit will only match if when you open FNVEdit, you let it load everything that was in your load order. If you just select one or two files, then the first two digits of the form ID are going to be wrong.[/quote']

Oh. And here I was going to turn adding each perk into an executable text file...

Well, at least, now I know how to add those perks properly. Thanks. :)

 

Sexout itself basically *never* needs a clean save. When it does' date=' which is extremely rare, I mention it.[/quote']

I've taken to "clean save" like a mantra for updating everything, and now you tell me my suffering has been for naught! :D

Next thing I'll find out, SCR doesn't need regular clean updates, either...

Umm, SCR usually doesn't require clean saves that I know of, Pregnancy does at times :)

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Almost nothing does.. the few mods that do need it' date=' mention it, but in general none of them do. It's just something you do when your know that data in the save is corrupt, or you want to start a quest over. What you're telling me is all the work I put into the version # update script thing in sexout, so people don't need clean saves, has been for naught! ;)[/quote']
Umm' date=' SCR usually doesn't require clean saves that I know of, Pregnancy does at times :)[/quote']

Dammit! XD

Oh well, at least, now I know. Thanks. :)

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