horvath Posted October 8, 2017 Posted October 8, 2017 Hey all, So recently I started a new character and decided to go a khajit for once. Problem is... Her body keeps on showing up black randomly. Images for refferance: https://imgur.com/PwVm4WH <-- Shows the effect I'm talking about. https://imgur.com/YCDHukO <-- Shows the first person body doesn't have this issue. The skins are the feminine khajit 2k versions, same as all the 2k fair skin bodies I use. I've already checked stuff like VRAM but memory is nowehere near full use when this happens. (doesn't ever go above 30% of memory used) My load order is as follows: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 SexLabAroused.esm 9 9 CreatureFramework.esm 10 a Campfire.esm 11 b ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Assets.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Integration.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 15 f Havok Breast Physic.esm 16 10 notice board.esp 17 11 daymoyl.esm 18 12 HighResTexturePack01.esp 19 13 HighResTexturePack02.esp 20 14 HighResTexturePack03.esp 21 15 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 22 16 TouringCarriages.esp 23 17 iHUD.esp 24 18 SkyUI.esp 25 19 RaceMenu.esp 26 1a RaceMenuPlugin.esp 27 1b UIExtensions.esp 28 1c RLO - Interiors.esp 29 1d Vivid Weathers.esp 30 1e IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 31 1f WetandCold.esp 32 20 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 33 21 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 34 22 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 35 23 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 36 24 When Vampires Attack.esp 37 25 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 38 26 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 39 27 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 40 28 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp 41 29 WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp 42 2a UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp 43 2b 12FemaleBrows.esp 44 2c RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 45 2d SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 46 2e KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 47 2f Elephant'sScriptLatencyTester.esp 48 30 SOSRaceMenu.esp 49 31 FNIS.esp 50 32 Blush When Aroused.esp 51 33 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 52 34 SLAnimLoader.esp 53 35 SexLabTools.esp 54 36 SexLabDefeat.esp 55 37 MoreNastyCritters.esp 56 38 SLALAnimObj.esp 57 39 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 58 3a Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 59 3b Deviously Enslaved.esp 60 3c DeviouslyHelpless.esp 61 3d SexLab Warmbodies.esp Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp 62 3e 3DNPC.esp 63 3f Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 64 40 SexLab_Solutions.esp Havok Breast Physic.esp NPCs Protected Redux.esp 65 41 hjerimtnf.esp 66 42 HSTNF.esp 67 43 proudspiremanortnf.esp 68 44 Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 69 45 Better Vampires.esp 70 46 VHTNF.esp 71 47 RLO - Exteriors.esp 72 48 BHTNF_Eli.esp 73 49 Captured Dreams.esp 74 4a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 75 4b HentaiCreatures.esp 76 4c FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 77 4d EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 78 4e Inigo.esp 79 4f Run For Your Lives.esp 80 50 Cloaks.esp 81 51 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 82 52 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 83 53 Devious Deviants.esp 84 54 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp NPCs Protected Redux - iNPC.esp 85 55 XPMSE.esp 86 56 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 87 57 SlaveTats.esp 88 58 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 89 59 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 90 5a VioLens.esp 91 5b AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 92 5c Immersive Weapons.esp 93 5d Tentapalooza.esp 94 5e SimpleSlavery.esp 95 5f Hunterborn.esp 96 60 Frostfall.esp 97 61 SofiaFollower.esp 98 62 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 99 63 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 100 64 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 101 65 Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp Tentapalooza Bathing in Skyrim Patch.esp 102 66 Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp 103 67 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 104 68 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp 105 69 KhajiitChildren.esp 106 6a Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 107 6b iNeed.esp 108 6c Equipping Overhaul.esp 109 6d notice board - dragonborn patch.esp 110 6e DragonFastTravelRedone.esp 111 6f MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 112 70 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 113 71 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 114 72 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 115 73 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 116 74 SD Addons.esp 117 75 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 118 76 BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1.esp 119 77 Bijin NPCs.esp 120 78 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 121 79 Bijin Wives.esp 122 7a InigoMCM.esp 123 7b EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp AFT_iNPCFix.esp 124 7c Serana.esp 125 7d Valerica.esp 126 7e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 127 7f RealisticWaterTwo.esp 128 80 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 129 81 CFTO.esp 130 82 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 131 83 ccas_starts.esp 132 84 ImmerSlave.esp 133 85 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 134 86 xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp 135 87 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Disabled plugins are the ones being merged into the bashed patch. Already ran LOOT to sort out the order and did some custom tweaks to the ones it never seems to sort right. Lastly, I did run the UUNP texblend for the HDT body so that shouldn't be the issue either. Anyone have any ideas to solve this? One thing of note is that it seems to happen mostly when some sort of overlay is involved. For example the glossy finish from wet and cold when it's raining, or blood after being hit.
aseta273 Posted October 8, 2017 Posted October 8, 2017 I had the same problem and finding the fix was maddening. I was using 4k tex and as soon as i came down to 2k it went away. FYI: The vRam usage of skyrim with 4k body tex was nowhere near the limit of my 1050ti 4gb on high settings.
horvath Posted October 8, 2017 Author Posted October 8, 2017 I'm already running the 2k version of that skin sadly. What's also strange is that it only seems to happen to the khajit (and possibly argonians, haven't checked that) All the other females use the fair skin complexion textures and they never seem to have this issue at all. 400 hours into my nord warrior and she never had this. The khajit though gets it completely randomly. It's not even time related.. Like some people describe their black body bug as happening over like 30 minutes of gameplay. Mine just happens right after launching the game ... going into a shop ... getting shot at with bows ... anything really. Like I stated, it seems to be related to overlays. When no overlays are applied the bug doesn't happen. But as soon as my khajit gets wet in the rain, or takes and arrow to the chest and blood splatters apear that's whent he textures go kaput. Edit: Ok so I did some further testing just running around and seeing what other things trigger it. Now it just seems to be mostly random. The game will sort of hiccup for a second (short micostutter really) and her body will turn to black. Nothing else in the game seems to be affected, it's literally only the khajit skin and only on the player character. I've uninstalled RLO, swapped it out for ELFX, installed a different ENB and went for some more performance options but no dice, bug still happens. Absolute years of modding this game and I'm running out of ideas.
horvath Posted October 8, 2017 Author Posted October 8, 2017 Right.. adding onto this. I've now noticed that zooming in to the character the actual skin does show. It's something related to gloss or overlays wich suddenly turn black and triangulated. So yea... It's like she's wearing a black see trough where if you get close enough, the installed texture is deffinitly there. But if you zoom out it goes all black again as you can see on the picture.
shadow866 Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Black body is indeed a memory issue. If you havent already, get enbhost and Crash fixes. Optimizer that winny posted usally mess more things up then they fix so i recommend to avoid using that. And just make sure you dont go overboard on installing to many 4k textures. Cut back on those super hd landscape textures. And its not just body. Skyrim count all those textures you got out there in the world. And your body will go black once skyrim is out of memory. There is a lot of optimizations that you can do with skyrim to make sure it doesnt eat away all your memory. Just do a bit of searching on loverslab and skyrim about the black body issue. Its a pretty common issue people get. You see a new thread about once or twice a week Dont forget to use spoilers when you post huge wall of text like a load order. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8534-please-read-before-posting-here/
Andy14 Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Basically it is an ancient problem in Skyrim. 3d data models are available more quickly than the associated resources (morphs, textures). The size of the textures only plays a secondary role (loading time), the number of textures and replace of it is much more decisive. This is why Blackbody "happened randomly". Cell change - or even EncounterZone - Overlays per script (Wet etc.) How to fix in the game: - with ENB Shift + F4 (the VRAM is cleared). However usually not enough, since already the child is in the well. So with showracemenu (in console) RaceMenu open - thus in 95% already done. (Re-initialization of mesh, morphs, and textures). If RaceMenu and possibly change weight does not help, then basically only rethink, which mods are really important and if necessary adjust. Criteria should be: overhauls of environment / lighting, script-heavy mods (GameLoad, CellChange triggert) As background information for VRAM/RAM: The vanilla textures are always loaded. So the BSA. Also if they are not used because of overhaul mods. First BSA, then loose file. Or several loosefiles one after the other. If the textures differ in size, the VRAM is fragmented. To Vanilla BSA (all, not only textures): Should be unpacked and re-created uncompressed - compression of Skyrim is somewhat outdated and slow. PS: Do not use Optimizer Textures (Ordenador). Unless you want a festival of artifacts.
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