DuskyHallows Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Update 26/09/17: Alpha 1.0.2 released on Newgrounds   Play Alpha 1.0.2  Hi, we're Dusky Hallows, the development team behind Sanguine Rose. Sanguine Rose is a NSFW Visual Novel about power dynamics - Domination, Submission, and Seduction - set in a warring medieval world. You are Roman, a mercenary tasked with the kidnapping and delivery of High General Carmen Valentine, the head of the Sanguine Rose army. The game begins shortly after you successfully capture her, and although she is your prisoner, she will quickly begin taking control of the situation. While you and your fellow mercenaries wait for your employer to arrive and claim Carmen, she will attempt to seduce and corrupt each of you - and win you over to her side.    The choices within Sanguine Rose play a huge part in the kinds of content you unlock and the way that content is presented (Dialogue and pacing changes within scenes for example), so the game can feel and play out totally different between separate playthroughs. The choices are meaningful but they aren't prohibitive, so there isn't a wrong way to play the game which rewards no content.  The game is free to play on our blog where we also have more information on the characters and the world of Sanguine Rose, or you can find exclusive builds and content on our patreon. If you have any questions or feedback we'd love to hear them.
guk Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Well the artwork and presentation is certainly triple-A-plus.  About the gameplay and story, i played all your demos since the first release, but they are just standalone scenes without a major context. After the last version, i had the impression that it works like this - she (Carmen) is constantly teasing you (the player). If you ever say yes, she kills you and it's game over. Of course you play adult games because you either are horny or want to cultivate your sexual appetite, so naturally you will say yes a lot... ;-) Although i also figured that in some situations you can only say A)-yes or -yes, leading to different scenes each but both being the wrong answer ultimately.  What i'm hoping for the future is that the game will not take the direction of player submission (as your description suggests that seems at least one path). And perhaps also gets options to turn unwanted content off entirely, like all the bi/gay/futa/DP/NTR/monster stuff being present in most games nowadays. So far the game and storytelling promises to be potentially deep and mature, certainly something to keep an eye on.
DuskyHallows Posted August 2, 2017 Author Posted August 2, 2017 Well the artwork and presentation is certainly triple-A-plus.  About the gameplay and story, i played all your demos since the first release, but they are just standalone scenes without a major context. After the last version, i had the impression that it works like this - she (Carmen) is constantly teasing you (the player). If you ever say yes, she kills you and it's game over. Of course you play adult games because you either are horny or want to cultivate your sexual appetite, so naturally you will say yes a lot... ;-) Although i also figured that in some situations you can only say A)-yes or -yes, leading to different scenes each but both being the wrong answer ultimately.  What i'm hoping for the future is that the game will not take the direction of player submission (as your description suggests that seems at least one path). And perhaps also gets options to turn unwanted content off entirely, like all the bi/gay/futa/DP/NTR/monster stuff being present in most games nowadays. So far the game and storytelling promises to be potentially deep and mature, certainly something to keep an eye on.  Thank you! Yes, our earlier concept scenes are standalone scenes, while the PreAlpha contains the actual game in its current (public) build. There's a new version which will be coming to the public very soon. Currently, there are no scenes which lead to player death, so it really is just a matter of picking what kind of content you most want to see. We're hoping that by giving people this kind of freedom, they'll be able to avoid any kind of scenes they don't want to see, and there will definitely be the option for the player to be more dominating towards Carmen (but these will come later in the game). Our philosophy is that the porn isn't optional, if you press play then you're gonna get lewd content, but you'll get to decide the kind of content through the choices you make.
DuskyHallows Posted August 5, 2017 Author Posted August 5, 2017 Updated for 05/08/17: Sanguine Rose Alpha 1.0.0 released on Newsgrounds
DuskyHallows Posted September 26, 2017 Author Posted September 26, 2017 Updated for 26/09/17: Sanguine Rose Alpha 1.0.2 released on Newgrounds  This version features backing music, a fully functional gallery which tracks how much content you've unlocked, and a new scene featuring Carmen and Crow!
korbe Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Tried playing on newgrounds but it didn't work. Â Is there a free download? plz add a link! thanx
DuskyHallows Posted October 10, 2017 Author Posted October 10, 2017 Tried playing on newgrounds but it didn't work.  Is there a free download? plz add a link! thanx  Sanguine Rose is a flash game, so you'll have to have flash player installed or use a browser which can load flash. That's probably why it's not working, but here's a download link anyway: link  If that doesn't work let us know, we'll try to resolve the issue.
theiratedwarf Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 After playing what's on Newgrounds I have SOME technical and tactical issues with the story...That I know exist to serve the game, but they still drive me up a wall.They've kidnapped this potentially dangerous woman general, but they are not exactly taking measures. They have her in a cellar, unrestrained, and all of four lightly armored mercenaries to babysit her, one of which is a twitchy little half orc who looks more comfortable in a library than watching a potentially murderous woman. I kept saying to myself, like, tie her up! You've given her free reign to pull stuff! You're orders were to not harm her, but you guys are really taking liberties. Get some rope, shackles, something! After day one in the cellar, Roman should have been all "We need some rope and a rag quick or this is gonna be a long wait."
DuskyHallows Posted October 10, 2017 Author Posted October 10, 2017 After playing what's on Newgrounds I have SOME technical and tactical issues with the story...That I know exist to serve the game, but they still drive me up a wall. They've kidnapped this potentially dangerous woman general, but they are not exactly taking measures. They have her in a cellar, unrestrained, and all of four lightly armored mercenaries to babysit her, one of which is a twitchy little half orc who looks more comfortable in a library than watching a potentially murderous woman. I kept saying to myself, like, tie her up! You've given her free reign to pull stuff! You're orders were to not harm her, but you guys are really taking liberties. Get some rope, shackles, something! After day one in the cellar, Roman should have been all "We need some rope and a rag quick or this is gonna be a long wait."  She's not tied up at the start because they are expecting an armed escort to collect her. Other than that, she's locked in the cellar (by a latch on the outside of the door) and when they try tying her up in one of the routes she escapes the ropes. Tying her up would potentially be giving her rope she could tie you up with or choke you with. Currently, the game only covers the first day, and in subsequent days Roman can take more security measures.  They don't know what she's capable of, so they've decided to put one person in there watching her, and lock the door from the outside, while a second person waits upstairs where the weapons are. I agree though, they could be a lot more clever about how they handle the situation, but the game would be a bit boring if the gang made super intelligent decisions.Â
greyspammer Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 I found it very difficult to actually play through. Most times, at some point, the game just froze. Usually during a fade to another scene, but sometimes also just in the middle of something else. The online version was unplayable (never even went to the first choice where you talk to the two orc girls). Only the download version got me somewhere. But it still required lots of restarts. I also can't seem to really save. There's only one slot available to me, and that's the autosave which gets constantly overwritten.  Once you finally manage to get through the game, it's actually pretty interesting and fun. Nevertheless, here are a few thoughts about how you could improve it even further (IMHO, of course):  An (optional) female or futa protagonist would be better for me because I usually have trouble identifying with a male protagonist in adult themed games. It's not me getting the girl, it's someone else "stealing my lunch". And where's the fun in that? Since it's all just actors to me, an all-female cast would be better for my taste. And if making the protagonist a futa allows you to reuse most scenes (not having to think about alternatives for someone who doesn't have a cock), then that's ok with me, too. During the scene where the general tells the story about the merchant, I kind of expected her to wear a more BDSM-ish outfit in those flashbacks. You know, maybe thigh-high black leather boots and gloves. Perhaps a leather body. Or something like that. It is a domination scene, after all. She might as well dress for the occasion. And would she really run around with bare feet in a dirty dungeon cell and touch grimy prisoners with her naked hands if she doesn't have to? I noticed a distinct lack of rubber content, which is of course an obvious oversight on your part . Yeah, it may be difficult to explain given the setting, but that should be considered a challenge. Every adult game is better with rubber and latex in it. So sayeth greyspammer, the wise prophet of perversion. Therefore, it must be true!  But other than that, I have no complaints or suggestions. Other than "keep going", of course. I mean, for each successful playthrough, I had to make about a dozen or so attempts where it froze at some point. The fact that I actually went along with that and didn't just rage-quit says something about the hooking power of this game.
DuskyHallows Posted October 11, 2017 Author Posted October 11, 2017 I found it very difficult to actually play through. Most times, at some point, the game just froze. Usually during a fade to another scene, but sometimes also just in the middle of something else. The online version was unplayable (never even went to the first choice where you talk to the two orc girls). Only the download version got me somewhere. But it still required lots of restarts. I also can't seem to really save. There's only one slot available to me, and that's the autosave which gets constantly overwritten.  Once you finally manage to get through the game, it's actually pretty interesting and fun. Nevertheless, here are a few thoughts about how you could improve it even further (IMHO, of course):  An (optional) female or futa protagonist would be better for me because I usually have trouble identifying with a male protagonist in adult themed games. It's not me getting the girl, it's someone else "stealing my lunch". And where's the fun in that? Since it's all just actors to me, an all-female cast would be better for my taste. And if making the protagonist a futa allows you to reuse most scenes (not having to think about alternatives for someone who doesn't have a cock), then that's ok with me, too. During the scene where the general tells the story about the merchant, I kind of expected her to wear a more BDSM-ish outfit in those flashbacks. You know, maybe thigh-high black leather boots and gloves. Perhaps a leather body. Or something like that. It is a domination scene, after all. She might as well dress for the occasion. And would she really run around with bare feet in a dirty dungeon cell and touch grimy prisoners with her naked hands if she doesn't have to? I noticed a distinct lack of rubber content, which is of course an obvious oversight on your part . Yeah, it may be difficult to explain given the setting, but that should be considered a challenge. Every adult game is better with rubber and latex in it. So sayeth greyspammer, the wise prophet of perversion. Therefore, it must be true!  But other than that, I have no complaints or suggestions. Other than "keep going", of course. I mean, for each successful playthrough, I had to make about a dozen or so attempts where it froze at some point. The fact that I actually went along with that and didn't just rage-quit says something about the hooking power of this game.  The online version requires flash to be able to save locally, but the download above is a later version I've been tweaking which doesn't crash if the save/load fails, but it does still glitch out occasionally. It seems like Flash wasn't able to store locally which is why only the autosave would work and why the game as having problems in general.  I'm glad you enjoyed the game despite the issues! I'm working to make the game work better when local file storage fails, but in the meantime...   An (optional) female or futa protagonist would be better for me because I usually have trouble identifying with a male protagonist in adult themed games. It's not me getting the girl, it's someone else "stealing my lunch". And where's the fun in that? Since it's all just actors to me, an all-female cast would be better for my taste. And if making the protagonist a futa allows you to reuse most scenes (not having to think about alternatives for someone who doesn't have a cock), then that's ok with me, too.  We're including scenes which can be played from Crow, Markus, and Glasha's perspective, so we kind of have the female protagonist angle covered. We've decided against making a full female or futa protagonist rewrite, but it's something we're considering for future projects.    During the scene where the general tells the story about the merchant, I kind of expected her to wear a more BDSM-ish outfit in those flashbacks. You know, maybe thigh-high black leather boots and gloves. Perhaps a leather body. Or something like that. It is a domination scene, after all. She might as well dress for the occasion. And would she really run around with bare feet in a dirty dungeon cell and touch grimy prisoners with her naked hands if she doesn't have to?  I'll forward this one to our artist Duski and see what she thinks. We'll probably be doing another story in day 2, so we can have Carmen bring out the fetish gear for that     I noticed a distinct lack of rubber content, which is of course an obvious oversight on your part . Yeah, it may be difficult to explain given the setting, but that should be considered a challenge. Every adult game is better with rubber and latex in it. So sayeth greyspammer, the wise prophet of perversion. Therefore, it must be true!  I don't think we can have rubber show up in Sanguine Rose, but some of our ideas for future projects are much more modern and much more... flexible.Â
greyspammer Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 I'm glad you enjoyed the game despite the issues! I'm working to make the game work better when local file storage fails, but in the meantime... Â Well, good luck with that. By the way: Is there a reason why you chose Flash for this game? I don't want to put you on the spot, but it seems kind of odd, since the technology is basically on its deathbed. Browsers increasingly stop supporting it for security reasons and Adobe said themselves they'll end support in ~3 years. Making a new flash games now seems a bit like developing an exclusive Xbox360 game now. Yeah, it's still on the market, but you can already see the end of the road. Â Â Â Â We've decided against making a full female or futa protagonist rewrite I completely understand that a full rewrite from scratch is probably not feasible. But just for the record: There could be other options. Like for example some magical transformation potion that turns Roman into a futa on day 2. Could even be an interesting twist in the story, where Carmen tricks him (or a member of his team) into first getting the potion or its ingredients for her (without knowing what it is) and then drinking it. All as part of her mind games. In a way, it would make her the ultimate manipulator. Not just twisting people's heads but also their bodies. Â Just to put the idea on the table, for whatever it's worth. Â Â Â I'll forward this one to our artist Duski and see what she thinks. We'll probably be doing another story in day 2, so we can have Carmen bring out the fetish gear for that Here's hoping. Nudity always implies a certain defencelessness. I can see why she does it with Roman, she's in the role of the victim there and trying to turn it to her advantage. Presenting herself as nude and helpless to get her captors to drop their guard. Â But in general, she strikes me more as someone who likes to be in control. Why would she do this in a dungeon where she's the one with all the power? If she's as naked as the merchant, that puts them on the same level ("hey, we're both nude here"). If she has an outfit, that already puts her above him ("you're the naked one, I'm wearing clothes"). And if it's a sexy domina outfit, that only makes it more clear who is in charge there. Â Â
korbe Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 thx 4 link! got it to work. Â great art! Â Suggestion = plz consider changing the dialogue to black with light letters. it would be easier on the eyes.
DuskyHallows Posted October 16, 2017 Author Posted October 16, 2017  Well, good luck with that. By the way: Is there a reason why you chose Flash for this game? I don't want to put you on the spot, but it seems kind of odd, since the technology is basically on its deathbed. Browsers increasingly stop supporting it for security reasons and Adobe said themselves they'll end support in ~3 years. Making a new flash games now seems a bit like developing an exclusive Xbox360 game now. Yeah, it's still on the market, but you can already see the end of the road.   We get this a lot. As much as Flash is on the way out, I don't feel like there's a viable replacement. We wanted it to play in browser, to be primarily 2d, and be simple enough to swap assets around so that (once the engine was made) we could develop scenes quickly (which meant classes, really). I understand why Flash is on the way out, but I also feel like there's an undue hatred for it considering its the only platform which does what it does. We could move to Renpy and have something that's offline only, cookie-cutter (unless we go to the effort of basically recoding half of it which comes with its own problems) and generally more limited than Flash, or we could step up to something like Unity which (in my opinion) is like strapping yourself to a rocket for your morning commute. We'll probably use Unity for our next project, but using it for a visual novel is overkill, so that only left us with Flash which I knew how to use.   I completely understand that a full rewrite from scratch is probably not feasible. But just for the record: There could be other options. Like for example some magical transformation potion that turns Roman into a futa on day 2. Could even be an interesting twist in the story, where Carmen tricks him (or a member of his team) into first getting the potion or its ingredients for her (without knowing what it is) and then drinking it. All as part of her mind games. In a way, it would make her the ultimate manipulator. Not just twisting people's heads but also their bodies.  Just to put the idea on the table, for whatever it's worth.  We're staying away from magic for the most part. Orcs and Elves are fun additions to the world, but that's about as far as we're going. The Sanguine Rose army is formidable because of its military tactics and meritocratic nature, and Carmen is powerful because of her skill and her seductive ways. There's no real need to add magic.   Here's hoping. Nudity always implies a certain defencelessness. I can see why she does it with Roman, she's in the role of the victim there and trying to turn it to her advantage. Presenting herself as nude and helpless to get her captors to drop their guard.  But in general, she strikes me more as someone who likes to be in control. Why would she do this in a dungeon where she's the one with all the power? If she's as naked as the merchant, that puts them on the same level ("hey, we're both nude here"). If she has an outfit, that already puts her above him ("you're the naked one, I'm wearing clothes"). And if it's a sexy domina outfit, that only makes it more clear who is in charge there.     I agree. At the very least she needs some nice knee high boots  thx 4 link! got it to work.  great art!  Suggestion = plz consider changing the dialogue to black with light letters. it would be easier on the eyes.  I'll run it by Duski, we'll whip up some designs and let our patrons decide. Hell I could pretty easily introduce options for different color combinations either way in a future build. So long as we don't run into any problems this will probably happen in some way or another.
DuskyHallows Posted December 3, 2017 Author Posted December 3, 2017 Hey! We just released a new scene on Newgrounds, this one features animation and prostitution. Click here to play!
DuskyHallows Posted January 29, 2018 Author Posted January 29, 2018 Hey everybody! Just a quick update to announce that we've transitioned from Flash to Renpy, and we've just released Alpha 1.1.0 in HD to all of our backers. If you'd like to know more, click here.
DuskyHallows Posted May 8, 2018 Author Posted May 8, 2018 We've released Sanguine Rose 1.3.0 to the general public!
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