Guest Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I have an issue in which red triangles appear throughout the Reach, including Markarth. I have looked into this issue and learned that the red triangles are the result of missing textures. Unfortunately, I have been unable to determine the main culprit. I didn't bother posting a mod list because the problem persists despite disabling all my plugins, reinstalling the game, and verifying the game's cache numerous times before and after reinstallation. Any help would be appreciated.
myuhinny Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Missing textures = purple/pink looking items missing meshes = red hexagon with a ! in it. That right there means that you are missing meshes for whatever those are suppose to be. I would check and see what mod those are coming from and then check and make sure the meshes are in the correct area. You might be able to click on them in the console and see what mod is listed if you are using skyui. You will see this in skyrim oblivion fallout 3 and NV.
RitualClarity Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Unfortunately, I have been unable to determine the main culprit. I didn't bother posting a mod list because the problem persists despite disabling all my plugins, reinstalling the game, and verifying the game's cache numerous times before and after re installation. Are you trying this with a clean installed game and no mods and getting these results? After verifying cache and still the same? (without any mods, textures or such installed) If this is happening during a clean install and no mods, you likely have a hardware issue. (graphics card) or a driver issue (again driver) or something related to this. Now this is only if the game worked fine before on the same rig and setup that you currently have. At this time of year, could even be heat that is causing stress. Try a clean play from a cold machine. (fresh start) If a clean install game works fine then you have problems when you add the mods, and you are confident the mods are complete (or you removed them) and they seem to be random you still might have a problem with your hardware, (most likely graphics but could be hard drive failing to preform etc) If what I am stating above is happening, I'd test the graphics card with a good program to test it and se the results. If it is happening as myuhinny is stating... then you are having problems with the mods... or you have too many or too large textures which are causing things to fail.
Guest Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 Missing textures = purple/pink looking items missing meshes = red hexagon with a ! in it. That right there means that you are missing meshes for whatever those are suppose to be. I would check and see what mod those are coming from and then check and make sure the meshes are in the correct area. You might be able to click on them in the console and see what mod is listed if you are using skyui. You will see this in skyrim oblivion fallout 3 and NV. The red triangles are tree objects originating from Skyrim.esm. No plugins nor textures that modify trees and other objects within the Tamriel worldspace were activated. Unfortunately, I have been unable to determine the main culprit. I didn't bother posting a mod list because the problem persists despite disabling all my plugins, reinstalling the game, and verifying the game's cache numerous times before and after re installation. Are you trying this with a clean installed game and no mods and getting these results? After verifying cache and still the same? (without any mods, textures or such installed) If this is happening during a clean install and no mods, you likely have a hardware issue. (graphics card) or a driver issue (again driver) or something related to this. Now this is only if the game worked fine before on the same rig and setup that you currently have. At this time of year, could even be heat that is causing stress. Try a clean play from a cold machine. (fresh start) If a clean install game works fine then you have problems when you add the mods, and you are confident the mods are complete (or you removed them) and they seem to be random you still might have a problem with your hardware, (most likely graphics but could be hard drive failing to preform etc) If what I am stating above is happening, I'd test the graphics card with a good program to test it and se the results. If it is happening as myuhinny is stating... then you are having problems with the mods... or you have too many or too large textures which are causing things to fail. I should point out that my modded copy of Skyrim operates perfectly fine with no CTDs nor other stability issues. However, I reviewed a guide for a clean re-installation and realized that I forgot to clean out Skyrim's AppData folder on the root drive. I don't know if that had an effect since no actual in-game data is stored there. Furthermore, I forgot to mention in the OP that I am running the game through MO. Regardless, I will try a clean start without MO.
RitualClarity Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 I had a problem (unrelated to yours) because of my APP folder wasn't clean when I reinstalled the game. So maybe? Mo shouldn't be causing you a problem, at least not a problem which you wouldn't experience otherwise. I am curious as to if it will work plain right out of the box (started from Steam) without any mods or SKSE etc. That will at least verify that the game works (base) which will also mean that your hard ware is at least working with the base game. Then I'd go ahead install MO fresh. Transfer over your needed folders from your backup of MO (downloads, Profiles, Mods etc and avoid the rest being transferred over) The idea here is to see if MO is messed up with your current mods set. If it works then and the base game worked then it has to be the files you are using or the amount of mods running. A slim chance it might be your graphics card flaking out due to heat etc causing random failures of textures. due to stressing the system with a fully modded game. If you tested the graphics card (perhaps CPU testing as well as memory ) and verified that the hardware is good to go then it could only be something to do with your mods you have installed, conflict, or corruption or even the order things were in. Which would of course be unlikely if you have been running that profile for some time and didn't have a problem until now. Personal note. I restored a 2~3 year old MO backup I had. It worked fine for a bit then I had some strange scripting errors. Couldn't figure it out. I started going through and refreshing my install from the downloads folder... and guess what.... it went away. Sometime ago the mods folder mods got mildly corrupted. Been playing it for about 10 hours,new start and such and no more problems (except a known conflict between some mods Nothing unexpected. ;D) If your game is old it could be that as well. Hope that helps. I am pulling straws about now It really doesn't make sense as I believe like you stated those red areas are files from the main game (unless you did have a mod that you forgotten about that replaced those textures.) and it doesn't seem to be doing anything else to other areas. In any case good luck. Unfortunately issues like this is quite hard to trace down and you pretty much did everything I would have done so far to figure it out.
allsunday Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 I have an issue in which red triangles appear throughout the Reach, including Markarth. I have looked into this issue and learned that the red triangles are the result of missing textures. Unfortunately, I have been unable to determine the main culprit. I didn't bother posting a mod list because the problem persists despite disabling all my plugins, reinstalling the game, and verifying the game's cache numerous times before and after reinstallation. ScreenShot3.jpg ScreenShot4.jpg screenshot2.jpg Any help would be appreciated. I've had problems exactly like this before. Especially with Tamriel Reloaded, Flora Overhaul, and similar mods. I solved this by reinstalling the respective mods. However, sometimes things aren't so easy especially if you've never installed any sort of land overhaul but are missing these meshes regardless. So if you can't resolve this by reinstalling any land overhaul or verifying integrity of game cache with Steam then try the MFG Console mod. Install MFG Console. Walk up to a red triangle. Click on it and see if it tells you which mod the plant might originate from or which mod last made changes to it. I know you said disabling all your mods still made no difference but this is how I sometimes solve the same problem when I have it so it's worth a shot. To make sure you actually selected the plant with the console, type "disable" and "enable" (without quotes) to test. A third way that I solved it was to save an entire backup of my Skyrim Data folder. I simply copied my plant meshes over and let the folders merge without overwriting anything. But if you didn't keep a backup then this solution is completely useless.
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 I had a problem (unrelated to yours) because of my APP folder wasn't clean when I reinstalled the game. So maybe? Mo shouldn't be causing you a problem, at least not a problem which you wouldn't experience otherwise. I am curious as to if it will work plain right out of the box (started from Steam) without any mods or SKSE etc. That will at least verify that the game works (base) which will also mean that your hard ware is at least working with the base game. Then I'd go ahead install MO fresh. Transfer over your needed folders from your backup of MO (downloads, Profiles, Mods etc and avoid the rest being transferred over) The idea here is to see if MO is messed up with your current mods set. If it works then and the base game worked then it has to be the files you are using or the amount of mods running. A slim chance it might be your graphics card flaking out due to heat etc causing random failures of textures. due to stressing the system with a fully modded game. If you tested the graphics card (perhaps CPU testing as well as memory ) and verified that the hardware is good to go then it could only be something to do with your mods you have installed, conflict, or corruption or even the order things were in. Which would of course be unlikely if you have been running that profile for some time and didn't have a problem until now. Personal note. I restored a 2~3 year old MO backup I had. It worked fine for a bit then I had some strange scripting errors. Couldn't figure it out. I started going through and refreshing my install from the downloads folder... and guess what.... it went away. Sometime ago the mods folder mods got mildly corrupted. Been playing it for about 10 hours,new start and such and no more problems (except a known conflict between some mods Nothing unexpected. ;D) If your game is old it could be that as well. Hope that helps. I am pulling straws about now It really doesn't make sense as I believe like you stated those red areas are files from the main game (unless you did have a mod that you forgotten about that replaced those textures.) and it doesn't seem to be doing anything else to other areas. In any case good luck. Unfortunately issues like this is quite hard to trace down and you pretty much did everything I would have done so far to figure it out. I doubt the issue stems from my GPU since I'm able to play a heavily modded Skyrim and other recent titles on high settings with no issues. Fortunately, my problem does not originate from a bad installation as I ran the game directly from the root .exe and didn't come across red triangles when I went to the Reach. Therefore, the source most definitely comes from a bad mod. I've had problems exactly like this before. Especially with Tamriel Reloaded, Flora Overhaul, and similar mods.I solved this by reinstalling the respective mods. However, sometimes things aren't so easy especially if you've never installed any sort of land overhaul but are missing these meshes regardless. So if you can't resolve this by reinstalling any land overhaul or verifying integrity of game cache with Steam then try the MFG Console mod. Install MFG Console. Walk up to a red triangle. Click on it and see if it tells you which mod the plant might originate from or which mod last made changes to it. I know you said disabling all your mods still made no difference but this is how I sometimes solve the same problem when I have it so it's worth a shot. To make sure you actually selected the plant with the console, type "disable" and "enable" (without quotes) to test. A third way that I solved it was to save an entire backup of my Skyrim Data folder. I simply copied my plant meshes over and let the folders merge without overwriting anything. But if you didn't keep a backup then this solution is completely useless. I already mentioned that the tree objects are coming from Skyrim.esm. Uninstalling and even deleting all mods that modify the worldspace doesn't fix the problem. However, the MO profile that I am currently using has been copied over multiple playthroughs and installations. Data corruption may be present. I will create a new profile from scratch and see if the issue persists.
RitualClarity Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Yes, I agree. It must be some mod corruption. If you can play heavily modded games, heavy current games and no problems. You are running something that int he past you did run before without problems with your current setup. You likely have some corrupted files. This makes sense considering it is an old MO system from backup. Perhaps, you could try to go through using your mods in the downloads folder/backup and one by one reinstall them in order. It should replace whatever corrupted files you have and still keep everything else in order so that you don't have too many issues. (unless you did some serious customization, merged mods as you installed them or other customization ) I didn't have / or have the same issue as you experienced but my MO 1.20 install from I believe 2014 or so had some serious mod glitches (scripted failures) and couldn't figure it out. I started to updated it (installed one not backup one) and the problems started going away. I am now mostly in good shape with an unusual CTD occasionally which I don't normally get with my last MO setup. So I still have something wrong there.
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 UPDATE: The red triangles are gone. I created a new MO profile from scratch with no plugins nor texture replacers activated save for AS:LAL. However, I never determined which mod caused the issue, though it's irrelevant as it was likely some data corruption left over from some previously installed mod. I thank everyone who helped me out.
RitualClarity Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 So you are going to install all your mods over again? I found that despite how great MO is.. it gets old... that is the install and mods do, not MO and in time... there are issues that arise regardless of using MO. Now that I am done fooling around with my MO I will likely start a fresh start on one with new fresh mods installs and such myself as well.
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 So you are going to install all your mods over again? Absolutely. I'm also going to reinstall XPMSE and SKSE plugins just to be safe. Fortunately, I have no more than 100 plugins on a typical PT, which shouldn't take up too much time.
Pink Blossom Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 I've found wich mod is causing this problem, at least for me. It was the "skyrim particle patch and subsurface scattering patch for ENB + Bonus Stuff".
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