Stealthie Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 I think it's time to ask for help... I've had Skyrim installed on my PC since about 2012 and it's raging out of control. NMM tells me I've got over 200 mod's installed, although only about 50 of them are enabled. The game usually does what I expect but I suspect that's often the result of brute force and dumb luck than judgement and knowledge. I've only recently tried to get into Sexlab and Devious Devices and, frankly, I'm not having much luck with it all. I think it might be time to wipe Skyrim off my PC, reinstall it and then install all the mod's I want/need set them up so they work properly. Which is where I'd be obliged if you folks could offer some advice. Can somebody provide me with a comprehensive list of what mod's are absolutely required in order to get Sexlab and Devious Devices up and running properly? So, for example, I'm going to need... - SKSE - FNIS - SkyUI - CBBE (?) - XP32 MSE Skeleton (?) - [insert other stuff here] I think I particularly need advice with regard to what body model and skeleton I should be using, along with any meshes (whatever they are) that need to go with them. One of the most common, recurring, issues that I have is that, for example, some items of clothing/armor will adapt their shape to suit my character (a thin, athletic elf) whereas other items will either change her shape (usually so she's got giant boobs for some reason) and other times an item of clothing will fit my character properly but when I give it to, say, Serana or Lydia it'll give them giant melon-boobs. Clearly, something isn't working entirely correctly, or consistently. After installing DD, I've found that the majority of items are invisible. If I equip collars, gags or the armbinder, they seem to work properly. Things like the cuffs, harnesses and corsets are invisible. When I equip either gloves or boots, they're invisible and they make my character's hands or feet disappear. Again, clearly something's not right there. I've read some stuff about these issues and the advice is always something along the lines of "You probably need to install the correct mesh for your character's body". Which is probably true but it means absolutely nothing to me. When a mod' tells me to install additional things, I install 'em. If it doesn't, I don't. If the instructions for a mod' haven't told me to install meshes, they're not GOING to be installed. Which is why I could really use a comprehensive step-by-step guide to what specific things I need to install after a fresh install of Skyrim, and what I need to do to get them working properly. Any advice would be appreciated. Please be advised, though, that any replies which include the phrase "...and any other associated files" will give me a headache. If you're going to tell me to install something, PLEASE tell me what other stuff I need to install as well, rather than saying "... and any other associated files".
Darkpig Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Bodyslide, bodyslide, bodyslide, bodyslide, bodyslide. If you do not use bodyslide shit will be invisible. Sing with me! Devices need bodyslide or shit will be invisible.
43deadwood Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 I would add Mod Organiser - it's a lifesaver when installing mods.
Lodakai Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 42 ... oh and read the first post of the mods you install. The authors do a pretty good job of describing how to install properly and what the requirements are. (for example.. DD is built for UUNP.. so you would need bodyslide to convert to CBBE as described above... and in the first post of the mods you installed). Also check to make sure you get all the different required assets for a mod.. some of them are broken up into multiple downloads. Most of the support topics also have people and authors who will actively assist you for each of those mods.
C5Kev Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Well, if you've had things installed since 2012, I would say that perhaps it's time to update things. Seriously! No doubt you've got a lot of really old mods that have changed over time, maybe a lot. So while I know it's a pain in the ass, believe me, it's for the better. Skyrim now (Legendary - All DLCs ) IS DIFFERENT (files, etc., not the game) than Skyrim in 2012, plus many mods need an updated Skyrim version to run. Not the cause of your issues you mention, but an example is USLEEP http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71214/? , requires a newer version of Skyrim to run and can be required for many mods now. Just an FYI... Blow it out. Blow out NMM if you use that. Dude...start fresh with updated game files. - If you use NMM, reinstall a new version. - If you use an ENB, you'll need a newer, updated ENB preset. I was having all kinds of CTD probs that I've since attributed most to my old ENBs - RealVision & PureVision. I use TrueVision now and it's AWESOME! But I have a pretty powerful rig to run that. I recommend using Boris' ENB series v0292 binaries with your ENB preset. Seems that v0308 has some problems, but that may not be true...just hear say. Of course, you needn't use an ENB at all... - SexLab only requires SKSE 1.7.3+, FNIS 6.0+ (or FNIS XXL - for handling more animations), SkyUI 5.0+ . Those are important and pretty common mods. Look on YouTube for a vid by Gopher as a good way to installing SKSE properly if you're not sure. He recommends making a zip file installed via NMM vs just dumping files into your Skyrim directory. - Devious Devices Assets (the "main" DD mod) needs only SexLab and BodySlide. Devious Devices has 3 main mods - Devious Devices Assets, Devious Devices Integration and Devious Devices Expansion. Not all SexLab mods utilize all three of them, so you'll need to check which ones need to be enabled. On a particular mod's description page, look to the right under "File Information" for the mod's requirements. - Now you mention a body model. I would say nowadays, most everyone uses BodySlide, not CBBE per se, but BodySlide to build EITHER CBBE or UUNP (UNP) body meshes. You don't need to DL a CBBE or UNP body like the old days. Using CBBE or UNP clothes / armors is a personal preference. I myself use UNP / UUNP as I think there are more choices available (I could be wrong) and I like the body skins better. Devious Devices use UUNP BodySlide preset files for you to build their items to fit your body, so perhaps try UNP / UUNP to start with... "One of the most common, recurring, issues that I have is that, for example, some items of clothing/armor will adapt their shape to suit my character (a thin, athletic elf) whereas other items will either change her shape (usually so she's got giant boobs for some reason) and other times an item of clothing will fit my character properly but when I give it to, say, Serana or Lydia it'll give them giant melon-boobs." This sounds like improper BodySlide operational technique(s). Can't tell you what to do here 'cuz I don't know what you're doing. For one thing, unless you have a custom race or character, if you create an body / outfit for your character in BodySlide, then give it to some other character, the other character will now have YOUR body. Period! That's because there's only ONE version of the body, clothes or armor for the game. Again, unless you have a custom race or character, when you make a female body, armor, clothes, etc., all NPCs will have that same body / clothes shape. A custom character or race will have it's own meshes / textures directories to make them unique, so when making a body in BodySlide, hold down "CTRL" then click "Build". That sends body meshes and a "morphs" file (assuming you clicked the BodySlide "build morphs" box - for use in-game with RaceMenu) to "Data/CalienteTools/BodySlide" directory - NOT the default "everyone" directory "Data/Meshes/actors/character/character assets" - and you'll need to then move femalebody_0.nif, femalebody_1.nif and femalebody.tri files into your character's meshes directory. "You probably need to install the correct mesh for your character's body". True, but that's sorta old-ish ... read above. Yes, you need correct meshes PLUS either UUNP or CBBE BodySlide files to "morph" the meshes to fit your body. - Skeleton HAS to be XPMSE nowadays. Install it and if you install anything after that - that might / could possibly change the skeleton.nif file, DON'T let it overwrite it. Say NO or NO TO MOD. Many CTDs are due to using the wrong skeleton. - Install HDT Physics Extensions - I recommend this also: Cherrys CHHDTP Breast and Bounce Physics with Collision So that should get you started. Get your game / DLCs and NMM installed. Start game initially using Steam to set up your vid shit (turn off Antialiasing and Anisotropic Filtering ) and exit. Make video card driver changes based on NVidia or AMD for Skyrim (Search Google). Install SKSE, SKYUI and you know the rest... Test that your game is OK, then move onto your other mods. If you have questions, etc., just ask or PM me. I JUST went through all of this crap myself... BTW, don't forget this mod: Seniors Wear Vanilla One just doesn't want to see (well, maybe some do) the old women walking around in mini-dresses. Yuk!
Stealthie Posted June 17, 2017 Author Posted June 17, 2017 Thanks for all the advice, folks. I bit the bullet, deleted it all and started again. It all seemed to be going fairly well... at first. Installed game, installed SKSE, NMM and SkyUI then pasted my character's old preset into the SKSE chargen folder. Ran game. Got an odd bug which I don't recall seeing before, where the skills menu was all messed-up. Googled it and fixed it. Installed FNIS, CBBE, HDT physics, Bodyslide & Outfit Studio and XP32MSE. Ran FNIS, Ran Bodyslide and it said it'd succesfully built the .nif files - which I think is a first for me. Ran game again. First issue noticed: Boobs seem to be acting rather oddly. When viewed in racemenu, character looks terrific. Exit racemenu and the boobs sort of "lift up", like they're fitted with some kind of anti-gravity wizardry. Not sure what I did to "fix" this but a bit of twiddling with the racemenu sliders seems to have minimised the problem. Now, however, the characters boobs "twitch" constantly, as if she's having muscle spasms. Not sure which way to go here. On the one hand I much prefer the way HDT hair looks compared to static hair but, OTOH, I'm not really that fussed about having bouncing boobs and butts and most of the outfits I have in the game don't use HDT anyway so I'm not sure whether to pursue a proper fix for the HDT issues or just give up and forget about it. Thing is, as well, that I committed to using HDT Physics so I installed HDT-enabled versions of everything that supports it so binning it is probably going to mean starting again. Again. Besides, I like the sense of achievement I get from getting something working rather than abandoning it. So, anybody got any ideas why HDT physics is causing my elf's boobs to spasm constantly? I then installed Sexlab Framework and Sexlab Aroused along with Devious Devices Assets, Integration and Expansion and Zaz Animations. I also installed Non-devious devices, just so I could craft stuff to see if the graphics were working. This is where I've got my first show-stopper. After installing the DD stuff, I ran bodyslide, ran the batch-build doodad and it successfully processed all the DD items. Terrific! Ran the game, made a bunch of non-DD items, equipped them and... success! All items fit properly and are visible. No invisible clothing or disappearing limbs. Then I used the tanning rack to make some of the non-DD items "shiny" and equipping some of them causes an immediate CTD. Arghh!!!! Non-DD items give you several choices. There's the original item. They don't cause any problems. Then you can add Fire Salts to make the item red or add Frost Salts to make the item white. No problems with either the original, the red or the white versions. But then you can also add Troll Fat to make the item shiny. Soon as I do that, some items will cause a CTD immediately. Seems a bit strange that the texture applied to an item should be causing a CTD. Anybody got any ideas what might be causing that? I'll take a look at the DD sub-forum and post there as well, about this specific issue. Assuming I get these technical issues sorted out, there's one other thing that I hope somebody can help with... Ultimately, what I'm looking for are mod's that will allow me to play the game fairly "normally" but will provide the chance of sexy/kinky/pervy encounters as well. For example, if you're dungeon-diving, you could be captured by bandits who'd do terrible things to you or you might have the chance to pay merchants using "favours" rather than gold or, perhaps, get asked to do quests by people who think it'd be fun for you to have to be wearing an armbinder when you're doing it. Can anybody recommend any mod's which'll achieve stuff like that? Both me and the missus like playing Skyrim and I thought it might be fun to add some unexpected activities into the game, which is really the whole point of me going to all this effort.
C5Kev Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Hey, you're making progress! Boob issue: Sounds odd, but there are a lot of different "hdtphysicsextensionsBBP.xml" files (located in the "Data/SKSE/plugins" directory) out there that affect your boob thing quite a bit. One just needs to try a bunch of them to see which they like best. Some like super bouncy boobs and butts, others don't. Personal preference ya know... The one I mentioned above (Cherry's) is what I use, but again, personal pref. HDT hair: I do like it, but also bothers me a bit too. Seems too twitchy at times. But if you use KS Hair, try this: KS Hairdos - Renewal Breast Weight Painted Hair. It allows the normal hair styles to rest on and move with one's boobs. I have KS's HDT Hair installed, but just don't use it as much as I used too. Can't really help with the DD stuff as I just don't care for them too much. I'm sure someone else can chime in on that. "Non-DD items give you several choices. There's the original item. They don't cause any problems. Then you can add Fire Salts to make the item red or add Frost Salts to make the item white." Sorry, have no idea what yer talking about here. "you could be captured by bandits" Might wanna try SL Defeat for this. Defeat is good for tying into slave (and other) mods as well. Vinfamy's SL Kidnapped is a newer mod that's going over like gangbusters. It's pretty cool. Naked Dungeons is also a good one worth checking out. Obviously you'll need to peruse the download section of LL to find what you and the Misses are looking for. Maybe try SL Deadly Drain as well. It's a well done mod and sometimes it's nice to just fuck folks to death. Like Nazeem. To keep your game running smoothly and prevent a multitude of CTDs, I'd like to recommend three additional mods. It would be prudent to install them... Crash Fixes Continue Game No Crash Save Game Script Cleaner Hope this helps...
Stealthie Posted June 17, 2017 Author Posted June 17, 2017 ....... Can't really help with the DD stuff as I just don't care for them too much. I'm sure someone else can chime in on that. "Non-DD items give you several choices. There's the original item. They don't cause any problems. Then you can add Fire Salts to make the item red or add Frost Salts to make the item white." Sorry, have no idea what yer talking about here. Hey, thanks for the replies. They've been really helpful. With regard to the DD issue, basically, it's that the items are initially crafted with a dull "leather" finish. They display perfectly. You can then use fire-salts or frost salts to modify the items so they're red or white as well as the original black. That works fine too Finally, you can use troll-fat to modify the items to give them a "shiny" finish. That's causing me problems. Most items with a shiny finish don't cause problems but as soon as I equip a corset with a shiny finish; CTD. Corset in original "leather" finish (of any colour); no problems. Displays correctly, equipped properly, no clipping or other oddness. The same item with the "shiny" finish; instant CTD upon equipping. The fact that the "dull" items don't cause any issues would suggest (to me, at least) that there's no problems with meshes, morphs, models, skeletons, animations or any of that other complicated stuff. Instead, it seems like it's an issue with the way the "shiny" texture is being displayed that's causing CTDs. And, to add to the confusion, the corsets are part of a "matching set" which all appear to use the same textures and none of the other items cause the problem. I know the "obvious answer" is to just avoid making items "shiny" to avoid the problem but right now I'm just "experimenting" by using the Non-Devious Devices mod' to craft things and see whether they display properly or cause problems. Once I've got all this up and running "properly", Sod's Law dictates that sooner or later an NPC is going to try and force my character to wear a shiny corset and that's going to cause the game to crash. So, I'm trying to get it fixed now in order to avoid problems when I'm playing the game "properly" This is even more important for when the missus is playing because she's not going to enjoy the game if it's buggy or unstable. Anyway.... I've decided to try and do things one step at a time. Rather than monkeying around with skeletons and cosmetic stuff, I've wiped it all (again) and have just installed the bare minimum to try and get SL and DD working properly. Once I've succeeded at that I'll start adding the cosmetic mod's. One thing I've realised is that a lot of mod's ask you to select things like CBBE, UNP and HDT during installation. I guess that's going to cause problems if you later decide to change your mind by, for example, deciding to disable HDT. Seems like you really need to make a decision about those things and then stick to it or you're going to end up in all sorts of trouble. Is there some kind of mod', or tool, which can look at all your other mod's and tell you how they've been configured or, ideally, just allow you to standardise the way all your other mod's are configured? It doesn't take long before you've got 30 or 40 mod's installed and it's a helluva job trying to remember stuff like whether you installed the HDT or non-HDT versions of all of them.
Stealthie Posted June 17, 2017 Author Posted June 17, 2017 *Sigh* Is swearing allowed on this forum? This is all starting to really f**k me off now. I've been trying to do this logically, in a step-by-step way, but it's just not happening. Started off with the vanilla game and installed:- - SKSE - FNIS - SkyUI Then installed Sexlab and SL Aroused Redux. No problems to this point. From there we move on to Devious Devices. DD Assets requires Bodyslide so I installed that. DD Integration requires Zaz Animations and XP32MSE so I installed those. XP32MSE requires Netimmerse Override, Realistic Ragdolls & Forces and Racemenu so I installed those too. DD Expansion requires no additional mods (aside from those already installed). So, we've now got the following:- -Skyrim ver 1.9.32.0.7 - SKSE - FNIS - SkyUI - Bodyslide & Outfit Studio - Sexlab Framework - Sexlab Aroused Redux - Racemenu - Netimmerse Override - Realistic Ragdolls & Force - XP32MSE - Zaz Animations - Devious Devices Assets - Devious Devices Integration - Devious Devices Expansion Okay, I think we're good to try and make something happen now. So, once again I install Non-Devious Devices, just so I can craft some DD-style items and see if it's all working. NDD doesn't require any additional game assets. So, I run Bodyslide to generate the morphs for the DD items, I run FNIS (with the skeleton arm patch) to update the animations and I run the game. I have the option to craft NDD items at a forge. I craft some, try to equip them and.... THE F**KING ROTTEN BAS**RD C**TING GAME IMMEDIATELY CTDs!!!!! So, yesterday, when I had a variety of "cosmetic" things installed, such as CBBE, I could, at least, get most of the DD items to display and equip properly. Now the game is obviously throwing a shit-fit when it tries to display ANY of the f**king things. Clearly, there's either something that I've missed, something that I'm not doing correctly or some add-on that is required to make the Devious Devices items display but which none of the mod's actually bother to mention. When I was screwing around with this yesterday I had HDT physics enabled. Dunno if that might be responsible. I deliberately haven't installed ANY mod's aside from the ones that SL and DD require this time around. Nothing in SL or DD specifies the need for HDT Physics, so it isn't installed. I've spent the best part of 30 hours (yes, really. thirty soul-destroying f**king hours) trying to get this shit working and it stopped being fun a LONG time ago.
Stealthie Posted June 17, 2017 Author Posted June 17, 2017 Well, I figured out what was wrong. I'd like to say it was the result of intelligent, logical, analysis but I think I just got lucky. However, I DO know pretty-much what the problem was so this might be useful to other people. Problem was, due to the hierarchy of requirements various mod's have, I needed to install XP32MSE before I could install DD Integration. At some point, after that, something must have modified XP32MSE and that's what was causing the problem. Having installed all the mod's previously listed I told NMM to re-install XP32MSE and I got a "do you want to overwrite the existing data?" message. I selected "replace all", started up the game and it worked! So, I'm guessing that one of the DD modules overwrites something in XP32MSE and creates the instability. Reinstalling XP32MSE - AFTER installing all the DD modules - reverts everything back to how it needs to be. Definitely making progress now. I know people have advised me not to bother installing CBBE but I need something to make my elf look like she's supposed to and I know CBBE will achieve that so I installed it. And that worked too, without causing any more issues this time around. Given that I've spent 6 years using CBBE stuff, and avoiding UNP stuff like the plague, all the clothing and follower mod's I use are CBBE-friendly anyway so I'm probably not going to notice that I'm missing out on anything by continuing to rely on CBBE. Next up is the question of whether to apply HDT physics or not. Hair says "yes", spasming boobs says "no" and I'm getting the urge to spend time playing the game rather than trying to make it work so I might end up giving HDT a miss.
C5Kev Posted June 18, 2017 Posted June 18, 2017 Hey, I (and many of the rest of us) know how aggravating it can get. I quit playing Oldrim and was gonna shit-can it after SSE came out due to constant CTDs. But Oldrim is SO polished and SSE just ain't yet. And it may never be. Who knows? Luckily (and as I said above), I just reinstalled everything (slowly) and began using the last 3 mods I mentioned above. I also changed my ENB and that seems to have helped A LOT! My game now is running real smooth and stable - until I fuck it up again which shouldn't take long. Anyway, I know your pain, but don't give up. It'll work out. You should at least TRY all the crap I recommended above. Whether you use CBBE or UNP, that just doesn't matter at all. If yer comfortable with CBBE, then by all means use it, as it should have no bearing on your current issues. But you should be able to create your elf via CBBE or UUNP - that doesn't really matter anymore because creating a UUNP body via BodySlide is basically just a CBBE - UNP clone. only thing that kinda matters now is the skin one uses. Natch CBBE is CBBE and UNP (UUNP) is UNP. The skin (image) layouts are different as well as mapping onto the body meshes. And obviously you know about clothes / armor. HDT problem: You just shouldn't be having any HDT problems...other than on occasion when entering a new cell, boobs can stretch, then snap back to a character (usually followers) or scarves can stretch for miles. Characters (followers) can also go invisible (but will come back in time) as well. HDT can be weird sometimes, but if you see that shit, don't freak. Just let that stuff roll of your back. Your boobs just shouldn't spaz out, which leads me to believe that the hdtphysicsextensionsBBP.xml file (or perhaps one of the other HDT files) is goofy for some reason. Just try the Cherry's HDT thing above just to see if it changes whats going on ...and then try other "boob and bounce' mods until you find one you like. There's also a Havok Collision Object thing you can DL from her. I really don't know if one needs that or not, but I've got it installed (???). BTW, the Super Bounce version is a little out-of-control in my opinion. You gotta have HDT dude! Big or small, rigid boobs just don't look right. BTW, what HDT hair mod are you using? It might be creating your boob problem. Skeleton: That's why I put emphasis on not overwriting the skeleton as it can goof up all kinds of shit, from just having plain ol' CTDs to a case of my character having a flat ass when looking from the side. I would have never guessed the skeleton was at fault. The wrong skeleton can cause a lot of stuff to go wrong, as you found out. DD Stuff: That is an odd one with the DD shiny issue and have no ideas for you. I would make a separate post regarding that, so that someone who has an answer came chime in on that issue. You've re-installed it and still have the same issue? If that's the case, someone else has had to have the same thing happen at some point. I noticed you have NIO installed. That comes as part of RaceMenu now, so it's redundant. Take it out. Let me know how it goes... Oh, and remember, Skyrim / Nexus (even LL) has some really OLD mods still up. Be sure to look at upload / update dates, etc., when you add new shit. If it's from like 2012, maybe pass on it...
Stealthie Posted June 18, 2017 Author Posted June 18, 2017 Thanks for more good info. At the moment, I don't really have any more "problems". Having resolved the "shiny corsets" issue, which fixed itself after I reinstalled XP32MSE, I'm back on course. It seems weird that an issue with the skeleton created a problem where an item with one texture was okay but when the same item had a "shiny" texture applied it screwed thing up but that's definitely what caused it. It's also weird that installing the DD modules DIDN'T give me a "do you want to replace the existing files?" message. If it had done, I could have selected "no" but it didn't. It was only when I told NMM to do a reinstall of XP32MSE that I got the "replace existing files?" message. Seems like DD is modifying something in XP32MSE but then actually needs the ORIGINAL version of XP32MSE to function correctly. Either that or the issue was the result of, maybe, the way SL interacts with DD. Anyway, doing the reinstall of XP32MSE after installing the SL/DD modules fixed it. While I'm at it, another issue that I had, after installing XP32MSE, was that every time I moved locations (from, say, Breezehome to Whiterun) I got a CTD. That turned out to be because I'd forgotten to install Racemenu, which XP32MSE requires. Kinda scary that an "add on" like Racemenu is all that keeps something more "fundamental", like XP32MSE, working. I did read that NIO is now bundled with Racemenu but I've got a couple of mod's which state that they need NIO so that's why I put it in. I think I might make a 2nd installation of Skyrim and use it specifically for testing mod's before installing them into my "main" game. That way I can do stuff like disable NIO on the "test game", see if it harms anything and then, if everything still works, I can disable it on my main game. I've still got a whole heap of stuff to install but it's mostly cosmetics but really want to try and keep my "main game" as clean as possible, not install anything that's buggy. I'll also check out a lot of the stuff you've mentioned on my "test game" and then bung it in the "main game" over the next couple of days if it doesn't cause problems. Similar thing with HDT physics as well, I think. I've googled the "twitchy boobs" thing and several people have mentioned it before and it's usually ascribed to a problem with an .xml file. I'm sure that's part of the issue but I think there might be more to it. I've noticed, for example, that when I select an asymmetrical HDT hairstyle for my character (something like an "over the shoulder ponytail" for example) then the boob on the same side as the ponytail twitches way more than the other one. Earlier on you mentioned something about a HDT fix related to this. That's the sort of stuff I want to play around with on a "test game" before I install anything into the "main game". Also, by way of analogy, have you ever seen somebody do that thing where they'll turn up the volume on their TV by using the remote for the satellite box but then turn it down again using the remote for the TV, itself? You end up with the sound really quiet but there's an intrusive background noise cos the sound output from the satellite box is really high but then it's turned down on the TV, itself. Kind of abstract but I think there's a similar thing going on with HDT, in Skyrim. On the one hand, there's CBBE trying to control character attributes but then there's also XP32MSE trying to do the same stuff as well. Add in HDT and I think those two things might be "fighting with each other" and the twitchy boobs are the result of that. Maybe that's another good reason to ditch CBBE and just let XP32MSE take care of character attributes all by itself? Trouble is, for me, that'd mean finding other ways to make my little elf look the way she's supposed to. Again, I guess that's the sort of stuff I need to play around with in a "test game" before installing anything into my "main game".
C5Kev Posted June 18, 2017 Posted June 18, 2017 Ah, I don't think you had mentioned that by fixing your skeleton, it also fixed the shiny texture issue. As with my "flat butt" example, who would of guessed that that issue and the skeleton were related? Glad the shiny thing's resolved. "Is there some kind of mod', or tool, which can look at all your other mod's and tell you how they've been configured or, ideally, just allow you to standardise the way all your other mod's are configured?" Sorry, I didn't see this earlier question and the answer is no. There's simply way too many variables involved ...with Skyrim having over 52K diff mods! It'd be nice though. LOOT (to configure your mod load order) can help with "warnings" and looking at your load order in NMM (missing requirements, etc. will show up in red) can also help. "I'm sure that's part of the issue but I think there might be more to it." ..."but I think there's a similar thing going on with HDT, in Skyrim." Well, if you wanna try to diagnose what makes HDT act weird on occasion, good luck with THAT! WAY beyond my skill set. I use KS Hair and KS HDT hair AND the KS Hair Breast Weight hair mod I mentioned above . Never had a boob twitch issue that I recall, but perhaps I just don't remember as I haven't used the HDT hair in a while (I use the weight painted hair). That's why I asked which hair mod you are using. Also, I seriously doubt that the HDT thing and CBBE are related. So no, the CBBE analogy doesn't work here. CBBE doesn't "control" anything, it's simply a 3D body mesh. Period. The skeleton and HDT control things. You've got a "correct" skeleton installed now and HDT shouldn't be giving you any issues (assuming no corrupt files), so you're actually done with that. FINIS. Yes, the HDT hair and skeleton are "connected" via skeleton bones, which is why trying diff hair AND / OR a diff HDT jiggle mod will correct your boob issue. I'd even bet you 50 Pazoozas that changing your hair will probably fix your boobs. BTW, there's an "HDT Invisibility fix" mod out there (if that prob arises) - don't use it! When you get to adding Schlongs Of Skyrim: When you installed XPSME, it asked if you have SOS installed and you prolly said no. If you had said yes, it adds a bone (or something) to the skeleton for the weiner control. SOS will ask to overwrite the skeleton.nif file and I'm not sure if you should say yes or no. Probably yes as to add the weiner bone (no pun intended). But to be on the safe side, just re-install XPSME and say yes to SOS. It doesn't take that long and you'll be safe with the correct skeleton again. "...did read that NIO is now bundled with Racemenu but I've got a couple of mod's which state that they need NIO so that's why I put it in." Yeah, I hear ya. I had NIO installed separately myself for a long time. But if you've got it (in RaceMenu), you've got it. Being a little "over-cautious" now are we? Hehehe... "Again, I guess that's the sort of stuff I need to play around with in a "test game" before installing anything into my "main game". C'mon, don't be such a wimp! Go insane and pull your hair out with only ONE game like a real man! Some "golden rule" stuff: If you're running a game, don't add / remove a myriad of mods over time like I used to do. Mod info is stored in the save game files and can cause stability problems...and rightfully so I suppose. If you need to, make changes and start a new game. Also, try not to over-use LOOT to much (you need LOOT) to change your load order. Set your load order and leave it. LAL (Alternate Start - Live Another Life) normally goes at the very bottom. Common sense helps too - obviously don't load a patch first, then the main mod. You know - D'uh!
Stealthie Posted June 18, 2017 Author Posted June 18, 2017 Some "golden rule" stuff: If you're running a game, don't add / remove a myriad of mods over time like I used to do. Mod info is stored in the save game files and can cause stability problems...and rightfully so I suppose. If you need to, make changes and start a new game. Also, try not to over-use LOOT to much (you need LOOT) to change your load order. Set your load order and leave it. LAL (Alternate Start - Live Another Life) normally goes at the very bottom. Common sense helps too - obviously don't load a patch first, then the main mod. You know - D'uh! Yep. The main reason for this epic reset is that, as I said, I've had Skyrim installed since 2012. Since the original, vanilla, playthrough I just leave it alone for months at a time and then, when I get bored with whatever else I've been playing, I just look for interesting Skyrim mod's on Nexus and here, bung 'em in and have another go at it. It'd got to the point where it was a bit like having a house that runs on steam power, has gas lighting, solar panels and a small fusion reactor in the basement. There comes a point where you just need to get rid of all the crap and start again.
C5Kev Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Natch, my intention is not to talk to you as if you were a fucking moron. But not knowing you from Adam, or not knowing what you already do know, I have to kinda talk in terms that are probably a bit academic or more than obvious to you. The main thing is that you get your new install started off in good shape, so after you do get all your DD stuff, you can then go kill Nazeem. Have fun!
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