Seeing a Pattern? [Rant, Discussion?]

[zhenzhiao]

Regarding the OP's remarks, I'd whole-heartedly agree. Some of the mods seem determined to cater to an unhealthy audience. To put it nicely.

 

I tend to limit my presence here as a result.

[Athstai]

Some of the mods seem determined to cater to an unhealthy audience. To put it nicely.

Of course. Because we all know there is only one healthy sexual fantasy / fetish / preference. And - coincidentally - it happens to be the one you prefer. Now isn't the world a simple place.

 

I tend to limit my presence here as a result.

That however is a good decision. If everyone with such a view would behave that way, there would be much less trouble in the world.

[DocClox]

Personally, I never understood what was so healthy about decapitating people with two handed swords, or toppling statues so they crushed newly-married brides.

[TheSmithsDog]

Personally' date=' I never understood what was so healthy about decapitating people with two handed swords, or toppling statues so they crushed newly-married brides.

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Me either.. In a game sense "fuck this is fun" weird sex and violence works for me, when in real life I am not at all violent, especially sexually. I could not care less what people do for fun if there is no harm to people.. No, pixels are not people. I don't know what the fuss is about.. People anthropomorphising pixels makes me anxious for the sanity of the human race. It's like thinking is wrong, not that you can help what you think. Maybe we need some thought police.. Oh.. We have them already. 1984.

 

Edit: It's kinda like the Christian nuts saying that even thinking of someone sexually is the same as the act. Looking at a hot chick and thinking "I'd hit that" is cheating on my wife of 28 years. The world is full of strange people I'd hate to share a house with.. In fact I'm not comfortable sharing the planet with them, but that's life.

[jdods13]

Would be nice to see a mode that lets you really feel like ySince the spouses are already in the game we should see some expanded relationship features.... eventually... that will make you feel closer to them and actually care.

 

Back on topic (sort of): I agree with jdods' date=' there are some women in Skyrim I wouldn't want to rape, lol. It'd be cool to have some sort of courting/wooing mod.

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I agree. When the first "better marriage" thread started, the first thing I asked was "can we have better courtship too?"

 

I'd very much like a decent relationship manager. All the bits are in the CK, it seems but they don't seem to do a lot for the player,

 

I do have fairly well established plans for a romance or two as part of the SSG at some stage. It's possible that the code from that will be generalisable and can be used for other romances.

 

The problem of course is that romance mods are basically a ton of dialogue that really ought to be unique to the target of one's affections, so I'm not sure how useful it would be.

 

What I would propose is a series of NEW NPCS with their own voice acting much like the pain-slut companion but well more geared towards a naturally progressing relationship. A series of amazingly well done characters with decent voice acting. U see a number of voice acting projects going on. Anyway I think that'd be our best bet to make a convincing relationship mod.

[creeposaurus]

What I would propose is a series of NEW NPCS with their own voice acting much like the pain-slut companion but well more geared towards a naturally progressing relationship. A series of amazingly well done characters with decent voice acting. U see a number of voice acting projects going on. Anyway I think that'd be our best bet to make a convincing relationship mod.

 

Maybe it doesn't have to be all dialogue. It could also be quest/gift driven.

 

Some of the mods seem determined to cater to an unhealthy audience. To put it nicely.

 

So I guess you won't be playing games with ratings over E then? Cos according to the general population, anything with violence or sex caters to an unhealthy audience. Otherwise, pot's calling the kettle black.

[TheSmithsDog]

Maybe it doesn't have to be all dialogue. It could also be quest/gift driven.

 

It should never be all dialogue.. Nyuk nyuk.. Ooops.. think game..

[Guest Vendayn]

Well...here is an argument that can't really be beaten.

 

I like playing undead (though being able to play as an undead race is really rare) or necromancers in-game. Or a semi evil to evil character. Doesn't make me a necrophiliac in real life, and I'm the nicest person you'll meet.

[Nel]

Really the only thing I have a problem with is when people take the Loli mods too far. Playing a loli is fine but I've seen the line crossed to what I would consider pedophilia a couple times in this forum and I find it disturbing. An example was someone putting the bukkake texture on that Elin mod. That is clearly a sexual thing that should go against this websites rules but for some reason I've seen it in multiple threads and it hasn't been taken down to my knowledge.

 

Normally it is to each his own, but child pornography is a whole different issue, even if it is only in a virtual sense. I'm not calling out everyone who uses a loli mod, just those who have taken it to a sexual level.

[turbosnowy]

Or it could be that since you like playing undead, it means you are undead in real life, and therefore evil and thus lie, which means you must be the most horrible person someone could meet.

 

But then, you would be lying about liking to play undead, which means you don't, which means you dont lie, which means... argh I think my brain just fell out.

 

Remember reading somewhere once some guy saying he was a total douchebag in real life but liked playing super nice people in RPGs so guess it works both ways haha.

[TheSmithsDog]

Really the only thing I have a problem with is when people take the Loli mods too far. Playing a loli is fine but I've seen the line crossed to what I would consider pedophilia a couple times in this forum and I find it disturbing. An example was someone putting the bukkake texture on that Elin mod. That is clearly a sexual thing that should go against this websites rules but for some reason I've seen it in multiple threads and it hasn't been taken down to my knowledge.

 

Normally it is to each his own' date=' but child pornography is a whole different issue, even if it is only in a virtual sense. I'm not calling out everyone who uses a loli mod, just those who have taken it to a sexual level.

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It's your right to find it disturbing, just don't let your rights interfere with others rights or reality. While I find real kiddy fiddling rather gross, FFS they are pixles, stop anthropomorphising. Really(devils advocate) it's not paedo anymore than it's murder.

 

Has the world lost it's sense of reality? Do I care if a paedo gets off on loli mods? Nope.. Better that that you know what.. It's pixels. Can we stop what's in their head? Nope. Will stopping loli mods stop what peoples heads tell them? Nope. Just get over personal "preferences", there's no point worrying about it any more than worrying about QueenBee eating people..

 

If fact, seeing as cannibal thoughts are ok, murdering thoughts are ok, so then are kiddy fiddling thoughts ok. The problem is when people translate that to reality. We don't stand for any of them in the real world. They are not kids. It's not human meat. No-one was murdered.

 

Edit: And yes.. I have kids, I'm 53, three of 'em, none have been eaten, murdered or fucked. Well Maybe fucked but not like the kiddy fiddling church fucked, my youngest is 17, oldest 24 about to have a kid.. I'll be a grandfather in a week or so..

[Nel]

I'm not going to go into a long human psychology post explaining why I disagree with you. It would most likely derail the thread from what the OP intended. Just know that loli mods that incorporate sexual based themes are against the rules of this website and can lead to the possibility of the website getting shut down.

 

From the rules: 3) We may be an adult oriented community, but don't be stupid, don't post anything blatantly illegal. Meaning no illegal torrents, child pornography (including prepubescent shota or loli content in a sexual context), and other such illegal content. If you find yourself asking, "Would this be questionable to legally post?" The answer is No.

[TheSmithsDog]

I'm not going to go into a long human psychology post explaining why I disagree with you. It would most likely derail the thread from what the OP intended. Just know that loli mods that incorporate sexual based themes are against the rules of this website and can lead to the possibility of the website getting shut down.

 

From the rules: 3) We may be an adult oriented community' date=' but don't be stupid, don't post anything blatantly illegal. Meaning no illegal torrents, child pornography (including prepubescent shota or loli content in a sexual context), and other such illegal content. If you find yourself asking, "Would this be questionable to legally post?" The answer is No.

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I don't have a prob with what you are saying as far as site rules. Not my site, not my rules. Don't tell me you won't talk about human psyc though. That's what this last part of the thread seems to be about and you have put your 2c in, rather vaguely but still obviously.

 

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I'm not going to go into a long human psychology post explaining why I disagree with you.

 

I dare say you are trying to say if weirdos see pixel paedo stuff it would encourage them to carry out their fantasies. So then why don't we see the same thing in other fantasies? Murder/Necro etc.. I suppose you also believe violent games make people violent and vampirism/necro make people kill, eat and suck the blood of people. Fucking paranoia..

[creeposaurus]

If I turned my fantasies into reality, I'd be this huge, firebreathing, shemale dragon that ate people whole and raped men and women. I'd also shit rainbows.

 

I agree with TheSmithsDog and Nel. What people do with mods is their own business but to those that like to make it blatantly obvious what their intentions are and are going so far as to break the rules, the law, well, they deserved what they get :/

[jdods13]

The way I see it modding is to take the guess work out of the game... meaning we want to make what we imagine possible in our sandbox game. We were given the keys to do it and now Skyrim has the ability to be molded into our OWN game... this in itself is AMAZING. We have crafted the Bethesda games into an ever changing dynamic wonderland of WHATEVER WE WANT DAMMNIT! Making whatever RPG character you want to play come to life like you've never seen before. So by all means make that Player's dream come true! The one that wants to create a Necromancer that builds a harem of undead succubusses and rampage through riverwood enslaveing the entire town by unleashing your horny fuck thirsty undead horde on the populous! And the Player that wants to Battle with a she dragon only to find that she can turn into a beautiful humanoid goddess that falls in love with him! And that player that wants to teach her pet troll how to play hide the giant lipstick!....

 

Now these are just examples and not mods I want or any....BAH! who am I kidding Those mods would kick so much ass and we (modders) are making them happen! So if you are faint of heart and not fond of rollercosters get out of line now cuz this shit is gonna get CRAZY! This is Skyrim and this is OUR GAME TO BUILD AS WE SEE FIT!!!... holy shit... sorry everyone.

 

Anyway...

[DARTHANIMAL]

Well, mods exactly are modifications that give to players the chance to extend or change aspects of the game concept in a personal way or for a large amount of players. The individual modder or team can make the modification in whatever taste they want, maybe limited by some comunity or game developers rules but it does not matter how good or bad is the artistic context or concept context for an individual user unless it is really affect in a drastic way a massive amount of user and game developers.

 

How many movies and book novels are out there that have good and bad respond from the public in either large of small population. But again we fall down to the very same first "origin problem": some individual take too much responsability about its own taste, likes and dislikes, thought and believes and mix all of those to generalize its mind to be the world mind became the truth voice and opinion on any matter that it speaks of because the deep believe is that it has the right and knowledge about everything as also what it hurts it, it will hurt the whole society for sure. And for some it became as some kind of addiction to look for and to see all of the negatives things in everything that other did or do and at the end it is like those individuals consider themselves as some kind of justicie member that has to point something as a mistake made for the rest of the people when maybe at the end it is just because it does not suits its personal taste. You laugh but it is sad! Some area taking seriously into daily lifes the "job" of modhunt as a witch-hunt instead to just enjoy the game with the mods that suits their taste without arguing agsinst the rest of the mods.

[jdods13]

Well' date=' mods exactly are modifications that give to players the chance to extend or change aspects of the game concept in a personal way or for a large amount of players. The individual modder or team can make the modification in whatever taste they want, maybe limited by some comunity or game developers rules but it does not matter how good or bad is the artistic context or concept context for an individual user unless it is really affect in a drastic way a massive amount of user and game developers.

 

How many movies and book novels are out there that have good and bad respond from the public in either large of small population. But again we fall down to the very same first "origin problem": some individual take too much responsability about its own taste, likes and dislikes, thought and believes and mix all of those to generalize its mind to be the world mind became the truth voice and opinion on any matter that it speaks of because the deep believe is that it has the right and knowledge about everything as also what it hurts it, it will hurt the whole society for sure. And for some it became as some kind of addiction to look for and to see all of the negatives things in everything that other did or do and at the end it is like those individuals consider themselves as some kind of justicie member that has to point something as a mistake made for the rest of the people when maybe at the end it is just because it does not suits its personal taste. You laugh but it is sad! Some area taking seriously into daily lifes the "job" of modhunt as a witch-hunt instead to just enjoy the game with the mods that suits their taste without arguing agsinst the rest of the mods.

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I see what you are saying... had to read that twice but I get ya. The discombobulated truth of the mass populous is that most people are simply fubar. We are not bad people but we have no sense... Many people mean well but they just can't refrain from verbal diarrhea... anyway...

 

samoflange...

[TheSmithsDog]

 

 

Well' date=' mods exactly are modifications that give to players the chance to extend or change aspects of the game concept in a personal way or for a large amount of players. The individual modder or team can make the modification in whatever taste they want, maybe limited by some comunity or game developers rules but it does not matter how good or bad is the artistic context or concept context for an individual user unless it is really affect in a drastic way a massive amount of user and game developers.

 

How many movies and book novels are out there that have good and bad respond from the public in either large of small population. But again we fall down to the very same first "origin problem": some individual take too much responsability about its own taste, likes and dislikes, thought and believes and mix all of those to generalize its mind to be the world mind became the truth voice and opinion on any matter that it speaks of because the deep believe is that it has the right and knowledge about everything as also what it hurts it, it will hurt the whole society for sure. And for some it became as some kind of addiction to look for and to see all of the negatives things in everything that other did or do and at the end it is like those individuals consider themselves as some kind of justicie member that has to point something as a mistake made for the rest of the people when maybe at the end it is just because it does not suits its personal taste. You laugh but it is sad! Some area taking seriously into daily lifes the "job" of modhunt as a witch-hunt instead to just enjoy the game with the mods that suits their taste without arguing agsinst the rest of the mods.

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I see what you are saying... had to read that twice but I get ya. The discombobulated truth of the mass populous is that most people are simply fubar. We are not bad people but we have no sense... Many people mean well but they just can't refrain from verbal diarrhea... anyway...

 

samoflange...

 

Care to translate? It's Swahili to me.

[turbosnowy]

 

 

Well' date=' mods exactly are modifications that give to players the chance to extend or change aspects of the game concept in a personal way or for a large amount of players. The individual modder or team can make the modification in whatever taste they want, maybe limited by some comunity or game developers rules but it does not matter how good or bad is the artistic context or concept context for an individual user unless it is really affect in a drastic way a massive amount of user and game developers.

 

How many movies and book novels are out there that have good and bad respond from the public in either large of small population. But again we fall down to the very same first "origin problem": some individual take too much responsability about its own taste, likes and dislikes, thought and believes and mix all of those to generalize its mind to be the world mind became the truth voice and opinion on any matter that it speaks of because the deep believe is that it has the right and knowledge about everything as also what it hurts it, it will hurt the whole society for sure. And for some it became as some kind of addiction to look for and to see all of the negatives things in everything that other did or do and at the end it is like those individuals consider themselves as some kind of justicie member that has to point something as a mistake made for the rest of the people when maybe at the end it is just because it does not suits its personal taste. You laugh but it is sad! Some area taking seriously into daily lifes the "job" of modhunt as a witch-hunt instead to just enjoy the game with the mods that suits their taste without arguing agsinst the rest of the mods.

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I see what you are saying... had to read that twice but I get ya. The discombobulated truth of the mass populous is that most people are simply fubar. We are not bad people but we have no sense... Many people mean well but they just can't refrain from verbal diarrhea... anyway...

 

samoflange...

 

Care to translate? It's Swahili to me.

 

Basically, some people think their opinions are the opinions of the whole world, and what they think is wrong IS WRONG because they are right dammit! And other people just like to see the negative sides to everything and complain all the time - another type of asshole commonly found wandering the plains of the internet.

 

On another note:

Quoting Creeposaurus "If I turned my fantasies into reality, I'd be this huge, firebreathing, shemale dragon that ate people whole and raped men and women. I'd also shit rainbows."

 

As it turns out I actually am a huge, firebreathing, shemale dragon that eats people whole and shits rainbows, but I tell ya it's hard work, so I like to play Skyrim and pretend I'm a small pink guy wearing a horned hat, fetching people's lost trombones and whatnot from caves. Most relaxing after a hard days rainbow excreting, romping and pillaging.

[TheSmithsDog]

 

 

Well' date=' mods exactly are modifications that give to players the chance to extend or change aspects of the game concept in a personal way or for a large amount of players. The individual modder or team can make the modification in whatever taste they want, maybe limited by some comunity or game developers rules but it does not matter how good or bad is the artistic context or concept context for an individual user unless it is really affect in a drastic way a massive amount of user and game developers.

 

How many movies and book novels are out there that have good and bad respond from the public in either large of small population. But again we fall down to the very same first "origin problem": some individual take too much responsability about its own taste, likes and dislikes, thought and believes and mix all of those to generalize its mind to be the world mind became the truth voice and opinion on any matter that it speaks of because the deep believe is that it has the right and knowledge about everything as also what it hurts it, it will hurt the whole society for sure. And for some it became as some kind of addiction to look for and to see all of the negatives things in everything that other did or do and at the end it is like those individuals consider themselves as some kind of justicie member that has to point something as a mistake made for the rest of the people when maybe at the end it is just because it does not suits its personal taste. You laugh but it is sad! Some area taking seriously into daily lifes the "job" of modhunt as a witch-hunt instead to just enjoy the game with the mods that suits their taste without arguing agsinst the rest of the mods.

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I see what you are saying... had to read that twice but I get ya. The discombobulated truth of the mass populous is that most people are simply fubar. We are not bad people but we have no sense... Many people mean well but they just can't refrain from verbal diarrhea... anyway...

 

samoflange...

 

Care to translate? It's Swahili to me.

 

Basically, some people think their opinions are the opinions of the whole world, and what they think is wrong IS WRONG because they are right dammit! And other people just like to see the negative sides to everything and complain all the time - another type of asshole commonly found wandering the plains of the internet.

 

On another note:

Quoting Creeposaurus "If I turned my fantasies into reality, I'd be this huge, firebreathing, shemale dragon that ate people whole and raped men and women. I'd also shit rainbows."

 

As it turns out I actually am a huge, firebreathing, shemale dragon that eats people whole and shits rainbows, but I tell ya it's hard work, so I like to play Skyrim and pretend I'm a small pink guy wearing a horned hat, fetching people's lost trombones and whatnot from caves. Most relaxing after a hard days rainbow excreting, romping and pillaging.

 

LoL, I get that translation, thanks. If I was to be raped and eaten by anything, it sounds like the way to go! Do you or Creeposausus do deathbed requests? I'll demand that I go that way when the time nears.

[creeposaurus]

As it turns out I actually am a huge' date=' firebreathing, shemale dragon that eats people whole and shits rainbows, but I tell ya it's hard work, so I like to play Skyrim and pretend I'm a small pink guy wearing a horned hat, fetching people's lost trombones and whatnot from caves. Most relaxing after a hard days rainbow excreting, romping and pillaging.

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Where have you been all my life

 

Do you or Creeposausus do deathbed requests? I'll demand that I go that way when the time nears.

 

Sure, but no payment plans. Oh god this thread just derailed.

 

It'd be nice to have another multiple marriage mod for a change. The one that's currently available is sort of at a standstill but it could be so much more.

[TheSmithsDog]

Sure' date=' but no payment plans. Oh god this thread just derailed.

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What? You get your kinky sex and a free feed and I have to pay? Maybe I should look towards the necros instead..

[TheSmithsDog]

Here's a good one, well I thought so. I became a grandfather yesterday, Friday 13th here. My son has been tossing names and no decision made. My youngest son said to my oldest(new father) on facebook discussion..

 

"Wouldn't Jason Voorhees *oursurname* be more appropriate? I'll even send him a hockey mask for his first birthday, by which time you should have trained him in the art of cleaving."

 

I'm a grandpa!

[turbosnowy]

Here's a good one' date=' well I thought so. I became a grandfather yesterday, Friday 13th here. My son has been tossing names and no decision made. My youngest son said to my oldest(new father) on facebook discussion..

 

"Wouldn't Jason Voorhees *oursurname* be more appropriate? I'll even send him a hockey mask for his first birthday, by which time you should have trained him in the art of cleaving."

 

I'm a grandpa!

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Grats! Would say well done but you technically had nothing to do with it, apart from the previous stages I guess, so grats on enabling the subsequent events to happen!

 

Yeah, I should have just left it at grats - I suck at grats...

[TheSmithsDog]

Here's a good one' date=' well I thought so. I became a grandfather yesterday, Friday 13th here. My son has been tossing names and no decision made. My youngest son said to my oldest(new father) on facebook discussion..

 

"Wouldn't Jason Voorhees *oursurname* be more appropriate? I'll even send him a hockey mask for his first birthday, by which time you should have trained him in the art of cleaving."

 

I'm a grandpa!

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Grats! Would say well done but you technically had nothing to do with it, apart from the previous stages I guess, so grats on enabling the subsequent events to happen!

 

Yeah, I should have just left it at grats - I suck at grats...

 

Hehe;) All good! I like your way of thinking, it's rare. I keep getting told "you must be so proud" and I'm kinda getting tired of saying I have problem feeling proud about something I didn't do. I am, I must say, extremely happy for my son, his girl my wife and myself.

 

Pride, for me, is reserved for something _you-yourself_ accomplishes.

 

Edit: In fact you are the only person that has seen it that way without me pointing it out, and for that Kudos with a capital K. I hope more people get it 'cause I'm getting sick of how _proud_ I must be.

 

Edit2: And it's not just this, I keep pointing it out to people. Pride is a personal thing. I'm not proud to be an Australian, I had no choice, I'm very happy I was born here but pride doesn't come into it. I can't be proud of my race or whatever, no choice. The list goes on and I think you get it.