Graphic issues during sex animations scene

Abbt · January 31, 2017

Since i have installed a few new Graphic Mods i have strange graphic issues, which you can see on the attached pictures.

The new Mods are:

- HDT Physics Extensions-53996-14-28

- Ponytail for HDT Physics Extension for Latest HDT plugin-47000-11-16d

- SLAL NibblesAnims 3.5

- Face Light-13457-2-0

- Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide TBBP HDT

Of course these are graphic mods and therefore they cause that issue. But in fact that they increase the graphic so much i would like to keep them instead of might earlier installed mods which have problems with the new ones, i just have not really an idea which mods could it be.

May be it is the one of these:

- XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended (But so many of my mods are based on them...)

- Realistic Force

- BodySlide and Outfit Studio for Mod Organizer

Or one of the complete list of my installed mods:

"10.5 (MoreNastyCritters9_3_HenCreatures_only_esp) GERMAN_ang_derjan123","d2017.1.3"
"A Clear World Map","d2017.1.26"
"A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads","8.4.0.0","A Quality World Map - New Installer-4929-8-4.7z"
"Adds 15 Independent prostitute quests to TDF Prostitution and Pimping","d2017.1.3"
"Alternate Start - Live Another Life","d2017.1.4"
"Armbinders With Hands","d2017.1.3"
"Atlas Map Markers v1-7 Complete","d2017.1.26"
"BodySlide and Outfit Studio for Mod Organizer - v4.2.1-49015-4-2-1","4.2.1.0"
"Brawl Bugs - Compatibility Edition","d2017.1.3"
"Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-","3.4.0.0f"
"Captured Dreams","f4.05"
"Captured Dreams V4.08 - English only update","d2017.1.3"
"Creature Framework 1.1.0-pre2","d2017.1.3"
"Death Alternative - Captured","d2017.1.8"
"Death Alternative - deutsch v6.1.7-54602-6-1-7","d2017.1.7"
"Death Alternative - Live Another Life Addon","d2017.1.8"
"Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life","d2017.1.3"
"Devious Captures","2.8.0.0",
"Devious Devices - Equip 250","d2017.1.3"
"Devious Devices Assets","3.0.0.0"
"Devious Devices Expansion","2.0.0.0"
"Devious Devices Integration","3.3.0.0"
"Deviously Cursed Loot","5.8.0.0"
"Deviously Enslaved Continued(v13.6.7)","d2017.1.3"
"Deviously Helpless 1.17a","d2017.1.3"
"Doggystyle","d2017.1.4"
"Entweder_SexLab_SOS-Strapon_1-1","d2017.1.22"
"Face Light-13457-2-0","d2017.1.30"
"Faster horses x2.5-62852-1","d2017.1.22"
"FB SLAL PACK by Shashankie v10.0","10.0.0.0"
"FirstPersonPlugin","d2017.1.3"
"FunnyBizAnimationsV24","d2017.1.4"
"Fuz Ro Doh","d2017.1.3"
"GagSFX 1.04","d2017.1.3"
"GagSFX Dawnguard 1.04","d2017.1.3"
"GagSFX Dragonborn 1.04","d2017.1.3"
"GagSFX Hearthfires 1.04","d2017.1.3"
"HDT Physics Extensions-53996-14-28","d2017.1.30"
"hdtHighHeel beta0","d2017.1.4"
"JContainers","d2017.1.3"
"K4 anims","d2017.1.4"
"Loansharks of Skyrim 20160407 Beta","d2017.1.3"
"Lotta Cum Sound (replacer for regular sexlab orgasim sound) 1.0","d2017.1.3"
"Map Overhaul-4991-3-0-1","d2017.1.26"
"Mighty Beasts - Werewolf","f1.04"
"More Nasty Critters","9.0.0.0"
"NetImmerse Override v-3-4","d2017.1.3"
"New Animation pack v2013-1","d2017.1.11"
"Optionally FootIK OFF Spell v2c","d2017.1.3"
"PapyrusUtil v33","d2017.1.3"
"Ponytail for HDT Physics Extension for Latest HDT plugin-47000-11-16d","d2017.1.30"
"RaceMenu v3-4","d2017.1.3",
"rapeTattoos v1.0.7","d2017.1.5"
"Realistic Force","d2017.1.3"
"Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide TBBP HDT","5.1.0.0"
"RevealingMaleSpriggan","d2017.1.3"
"S_L_U_T_S_0.11.2","d2017.1.3"
"SD Cages 277","d2017.1.5"
"SD Customization Addons v6","d2017.1.3"
"SDPlus355","d2017.1.3"
"SDPlus355FrostfallPatch","d2017.1.3"
"Sex","d2017.1.1"
"Sexlab Aroused Redux_V28b","d2017.1.3"
"SexLab Solutions LE PrisonOverhaul Patch","d2017.1.3"
"SexLab Solutions LE v5.0.5","d2017.1.3"
"SexLab Submit + DD Progression 1.71","d2017.1.3"
"SexLab Tools v3.0","d2017.1.3"
"SexLab_Paycrime_1.03","d2017.1.3"
"SexLab_SOS-Strapon-DoubleDildo_1-1_colision-data","d2017.1.22"
"SexLabFramework v162 FULL","d2017.1.1"
"SexLabMatchMaker","d2017.1.4"
"SexLabSexBounty v1.3","d2017.1.3"
"SexLabWorkingGirl","d2017.1.3"
"SexLabWorkingGirl Sounds","d2017.1.3"
"SexSlavesForVanillaBandits","d2017.1.3"
"SexWithThieves1.2","d2017.1.3"
"Simple Slavery 4.72 Jan 23 2017","d2017.1.30"
"SkoomaWhore 1.0 patch","d2017.1.3"
"SkoomaWhore1","d2017.1.3"
"SkyCasino","d2017.1.3"
"SkyrimBound v1.2","d2017.1.3"
"SkyUI","5.1.0.0","SkyUI_5_1-3863-5-1.7z"
"SL Defeat v5.3.5","d2017.1.3"
"SLAL Animations by Leito v1.6","1.6.0.0"
"SLAL NibblesAnims 3.5","d2017.1.4"
"SLAnimLoader-1.3","d2017.1.3"
"Slave Bandits Cloth Variety","d2017.1.3"
"SlaveTatsEventsBridge01b","d2017.1.3"
"SLDialogues27","d2017.1.3"
"SLPleasure 191216 Full","d2017.1.3"
"SLPrivacy 201216 Normal","d2017.1.3"
"TDF Aggressive Dance Music v1.0","d2017.1.3"
"TDF Aggressive Prostitution - v2_2_5_4","d2017.1.3"
"TDF Aggro Pro Music Nord 1b","d2017.1.3"
"UIExtensions v1-2","d2017.1.3"
"UIExtensions v1-2-0-57046-1-2-0","d2017.1.3"
"Unmanaged: a quality world map - with roads","",""
"Unmanaged: Dawnguard","",""
"Unmanaged: Dragonborn","",""
"Unmanaged: FNIS","",""
"Unmanaged: HearthFires","",""
"Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01","",""
"Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02","",""
"Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03","",""
"Unofficial High Resolution Patch","d2017.1.3"
"Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch","d2017.1.3"
"xazPrisonOverhaul V033 fix","d2017.1.3"
"xazPrisonOverhaul_V033 - German","d2017.1.3"
"xazPrisonOverhaul_V033 Patch 8m","d2017.1.3"
"XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended","3.93.0.0"
"ZaZAnimationPack v0611 Patch","d2017.1.1"
"ZazAnimationPack v61","d2017.1.1"

LOAD ORDER of that MODs:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 SexLab.esm
7 7 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
8 8 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
9 9 SexLabAroused.esm
10 a Devious Devices - Integration.esm
11 b Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
12 c daymoyl.esm
13 d CreatureFramework.esm
14 e hdtHighHeel.esm
15 f HighResTexturePack01.esp
16 10 HighResTexturePack02.esp
17 11 HighResTexturePack03.esp
18 12 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
19 13 UIExtensions.esp
20 14 a quality world map - with roads.esp
21 15 SexLab_Solutions.esp
22 16 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
23 17 xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
24 18 SD Cages.esp
25 19 SOSRaceMenu.esp
26 1a XPMSE.esp
27 1b FNIS.esp
28 1c RaceMenu.esp
29 1d RaceMenuPlugin.esp
30 1e dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
31 1f SkyUI.esp
32 20 SexLabMatchMaker.esp
33 21 SexLab Extra Voices.esp
34 22 Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp
35 23 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
36 24 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
37 25 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
38 26 Armbinders_With_Hands.esp
39 27 Devious Devices - Equip.esp
40 28 pchs_loansharks.esp
41 29 SkyrimBound.esp
42 2a SexLabDefeat.esp
43 2b RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
44 2c SDpatch - frostfall.esp
45 2d SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
46 2e mslDeviousCaptures.esp
47 2f GagSFX.esp
48 30 GagSFXDawnguard.esp
49 31 GagSFXDragonborn.esp
50 32 GagSFXHearthfires.esp
51 33 FootIKOffSpell.esp
52 34 RapeTattoos.esp
53 35 SexLab Submit.esp
54 36 SexLabTools.esp
55 37 SexLabWorkingGirl.esp
56 38 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
57 39 SLAnimLoader.esp
58 3a MoreNastyCritters.esp
59 3b SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
60 3c TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp
61 3d Brawl Bugs CE.esp
62 3e SLALAnimObj.esp
63 3f SLAL_K4Anims.esp
64 40 Captured Dreams.esp
65 41 HentaiCreatures.esp
66 42 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
67 43 SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp
68 44 Slave Bandits Cloth Variety.esp
69 45 sanguinesDebauchery.esp
70 46 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
71 47 Devious Deviants.esp
72 48 DeviouslyHelpless.esp
73 49 SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp
74 4a SimpleSlavery.esp
75 4b SexLabSexBounty.esp
76 4c SexLab_Paycrime.esp
77 4d SWT1.2.esp
78 4e SLPleasure.esp
79 4f BetterHorses.esp
80 50 SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
81 51 Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp
82 52 Atlas Legendary OCS.esp
83 53 SkyCasino.esp
84 54 SLPrivacy.esp
85 55 SexLab_Dialogues.esp
86 56 S_L_U_T_S.esp
87 57 Deviously Enslaved.esp
88 58 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
89 59 SD Addons.esp
90 5a NibblesAnimObjects.esp
91 5b AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
92 5c Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
93 5d Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
94 5e Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
95 5f Facelight.esp
96 60 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
97 61 da_alternate_start_extension.esp
98 62 World_Map_Height_Pitch_Tweak_130_50.esp

- >created by LOOT

Btw I use the MOD Organizer tool.

Has someone an idea which mod can cause that conflict or might is someone additional mod missing or could it be a setting problem in MCM?

BTW. I had a very similar issue with the "Schlongs of Skyrim" mod but it could be solved with deactivating that mod.

*myuhinny* · January 31, 2017

That is a skeleton issue. Incorrect/non compatible skeleton being used for the bodies. SOS comes with it's own skeleton so when you use the mod you must make sure nothing overwrites it's skeleton. Whatever skeleton mod you are using make sure it's compatible with the body are using and then reinstall it.

Abbt · January 31, 2017

That is a skeleton issue. Incorrect/non compatible skeleton being used for the bodies.

Yes but which one is the incorrect skeleton?

As i see in my list the following Mods are skeleton mods:

- "BodySlide and Outfit Studio for Mod Organizer - v4.2.1-49015-4-2-1","4.2.1.0"

- "Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-","3.4.0.0f"

- "HDT Physics Extensions-53996-14-28","d2017.1.30"

- "Ponytail for HDT Physics Extension for Latest HDT plugin-47000-11-16d","d2017.1.30"

- "Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide TBBP HDT","5.1.0.0"

- "XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended","3.93.0.0"

EDIT - "Realistic Force","d2017.1.3"

Please correct me if i'm wrong.

I have disabled each of them, but without succes, except the "Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide TBBP HDT" solves the problem but also the Body moves are canceled when i disable that mod. Therfore i have to find the other Mod which cause the Problem with "Remodeled ..." mod.

Could it may be an issue with the BodySlider tool, i have choosen "CBBE Body HDT" for Outfit/Body?

Or which skeleton is correct for using "Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide TBBP HDT", i've thought XP32 MSE would be ok?

SOS comes with it's own skeleton so when you use the mod you must make sure nothing overwrites it's skeleton. Whatever skeleton mod you are using make sure it's compatible with the body are using and then reinstall it.

How can i make sure that nothing overwrites it's skeleton in ModOrganizer? With loading list?

khumak · January 31, 2017

You might try XPMSE. I use all of the mods you have listed except the Ponytail one and XPMSE supports all of them so I just let it overwrite all other skeletons and I have no issues with crashing or buggy animations. No idea if that's the preferred solution but it works for me. Something else I don't see on your list that most people use is Realistic Force, that also includes a skeleton change.

*myuhinny* · January 31, 2017

I don't use MO so not sure. I know when you usually install something if there is something that is going to be overwritten it'll ask you yes or no if you wan to overwrite something.

Abbt · January 31, 2017

You might try XPMSE. I use all of the mods you have listed except the Ponytail one and XPMSE supports all of them so I just let it overwrite all other skeletons and I have no issues with crashing or buggy animations. No idea if that's the preferred solution but it works for me. Something else I don't see on your list that most people use is Realistic Force, that also includes a skeleton change.

What dou you mean with "you might try XPMSE", i mean i'm already using it!?

Do you use ModOrganizer too?

How do you let XPMSE overwrite all other Skeleton? I couldn't find that function in MO!

I didn't know that Realistic Force has a skeleton, of course I'm also using it.

Abbt · January 31, 2017

I think i found the problem Mod after i have disabled "New Animation pack v2013-1","d2017.1.11" it seems working.

khumak · January 31, 2017

You might try XPMSE. I use all of the mods you have listed except the Ponytail one and XPMSE supports all of them so I just let it overwrite all other skeletons and I have no issues with crashing or buggy animations. No idea if that's the preferred solution but it works for me. Something else I don't see on your list that most people use is Realistic Force, that also includes a skeleton change.

What dou you mean with "you might try XPMSE", i mean i'm already using it!?

Do you use ModOrganizer too?

How do you let XPMSE overwrite all other Skeleton? I couldn't find that function in MO!

I didn't know that Realistic Force has a skeleton, of course I'm also using it.

In MO you just move whatever you want to win the conflicts lower in the load order on the left side. It doesn't actually overwrite it just wins the conflict. Sounds like you found the issue anyway though.

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