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Hi. I have tried several times now and asked in the thread, couldn't get the answers i'm searching for, though. 

My main question is:

How do i get the quests in SD+?

And since i think it's related to that: what exactly does increase my slavery lvl? I've reached lvl3 and noticed that i have to have a negative disposition to be able to ask my Master "May i... -> work for you?"

His answer is to get on my knees and beg people to be fucked, but i don't have such a dialogue with anybody. I don't know if that's a bug, or a conflict, or if something is missing. (It's my first enslavement and i didn't meet Sanguine yet).

 

Beside that: how to you handle the quite boring traveling? Or does everybody just escape? 

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The quests start only after the vanilla sanguine quest ( a night to remember?) So there is that part solved. There may also be a setting in MCM that can force start the quest (i think)

 

I never been a slave too much yet. I mostly restart every few hours since i always seem to botch up some mod.

 

Are you sure you have all the required mods? i believe one of the required/suggested mods adds such a dialogue to every npc.

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The quests start only after the vanilla sanguine quest ( a night to remember?) So there is that part solved. There may also be a setting in MCM that can force start the quest (i think)

 

I never been a slave too much yet. I mostly restart every few hours since i always seem to botch up some mod.

 

Are you sure you have all the required mods? i believe one of the required/suggested mods adds such a dialogue to every npc.

There is no MCM option to start the quests. Do i need to meet Sanguine or do i need to do a night to remember? That's two different things.

Yes, i have all requirements and no, it doesn't add such an option.

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Are you sure you have http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1540-sexlab-dialogues-2014-12-09/ and its requirements/recommendations?

 

U are using SD+ right? not the old one?

 

You need to do a night to remember before you can meet sanguine i think.

I have all requirements and the latest version. And no, you don't have to do a night to remember, there are other options. I don't have a technical problem, at least i don't think so, i just don't understand how to progress.

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Maybe you can find some answers/solutions/suggestions here:

https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SDPlus/wiki/SANGUINE'S-DEBAUCHERY-CORE

No, i've read all three threads on github and the answers aren't there. In the support thread nobody seems to know the answer either (SkyrimLL probably, but he didn't answer), they all just escape and never do the quests. That's why i ask here if somebody who already did it but doesn't read there can tell me how to get the quests. For a simple "escape after defeatment" SD+ has too many bugs and incompatibilities imho, but i'd really like to see those quests.

 

OT: I wonder why a thread how to play a mod has been moved in the technical section, i don't have technical questions. Well, maybe that "possibly a bug because i can't find the dialogue to work" thing, but i assume that there are conditions i didn't met yet.

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There is no quest, you get enslaved. Go through some slavery mechanics, reach a point where you get be freed, join them or stay enslaved.

If you do the vanilla quest or sleep in front of the statue you'll start visiting the dreamland when you sleep and if you've got it setup right it'll do it when you die too.

But other than that, there is no "main quest" it's just a slavery mod. If you actually want some plot and a big story about slavery, get slaverun reloaded.

 

What happens kinda depends on who you get enslaved by, if you follow bandits for a while they take you to different camps/forts. I even remember a while back you get taken to one of the gambling den's which I thought was a cool touch.

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

Posted

There is no quest, The quests like "Gold for the wicked", "conveted", "Wanted!" etc don't exist?

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

In that case you can as well answer my question: what dialogue option is it when i ask my Master for work and tells me "get on your knees and beg to be fucked"? What exactly shall i ask NPCs? 

*edit: and how do i know that it worked? Is there some kind of progress/other tasks?

*edit2: And since you really seem to do that stuff: how do you get along with the imho quite boring traveling? Every time the Master meets an NPC he stops and it takes minutes until he moves again.

 

I'm sorry if i sound a bit pissed off, i know you both are just trying to help, but you give answers to questions i didn't ask, or they are just wrong. I've got the "Gold for the wicked" quest once, but that was when i teleported me and the master into the bannered Mare because i was tired of standing around in the middle of nowhere. I don't know if the place is a condition, but i couldn't get it a second time and none of the others.

 

To give an example what answer i'm hoping for:

How to get the "Go and beg to be fucked" dialogue:

conditions: slave lvl 3 and a negative disposition.

Then ask "Master"->"May i..." ->"May i work for you?"

 

and now i'd like to know how to continue from there...

Posted

There is no quest, you get enslaved. Go through some slavery mechanics, reach a point where you get be freed, join them or stay enslaved.

If you do the vanilla quest or sleep in front of the statue  Where  you'll start visiting the dreamland when you sleep and if you've got it setup right it'll do it when you die too.

But other than that, there is no "main quest" it's just a slavery mod. If you actually want some plot and a big story about slavery, get slaverun reloaded.

 

What happens kinda depends on who you get enslaved by, if you follow bandits for a while they take you to different camps/forts. I even remember a while back you get taken to one of the gambling den's which I thought was a cool touch.

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

 

Posted

 

There is no quest, you get enslaved. Go through some slavery mechanics, reach a point where you get be freed, join them or stay enslaved.

If you do the vanilla quest or sleep in front of the statue  Where  you'll start visiting the dreamland when you sleep and if you've got it setup right it'll do it when you die too.

But other than that, there is no "main quest" it's just a slavery mod. If you actually want some plot and a big story about slavery, get slaverun reloaded.

 

What happens kinda depends on who you get enslaved by, if you follow bandits for a while they take you to different camps/forts. I even remember a while back you get taken to one of the gambling den's which I thought was a cool touch.

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

 

The statue is below the honeymead brewery (I think that's the name, my game is in german). You get there during the questline for the thiefs guild, not sure if it's unlocked before.

Posted

 

There is no quest, The quests like "Gold for the wicked", "conveted", "Wanted!" etc don't exist?

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

In that case you can as well answer my question: what dialogue option is it when i ask my Master for work and tells me "get on your knees and beg to be fucked"? What exactly shall i ask NPCs? 

*edit: and how do i know that it worked? Is there some kind of progress/other tasks?

*edit2: And since you really seem to do that stuff: how do you get along with the imho quite boring traveling? Every time the Master meets an NPC he stops and it takes minutes until he moves again.

 

I'm sorry if i sound a bit pissed off, i know you both are just trying to help, but you give answers to questions i didn't ask, or they are just wrong. I've got the "Gold for the wicked" quest once, but that was when i teleported me and the master into the bannered Mare because i was tired of standing around in the middle of nowhere. I don't know if the place is a condition, but i couldn't get it a second time and none of the others.

 

To give an example what answer i'm hoping for:

How to get the "Go and beg to be fucked" dialogue:

conditions: slave lvl 3 and a negative disposition.

Then ask "Master"->"May i..." ->"May i work for you?"

 

and now i'd like to know how to continue from there...

 

They aren't "story quests", they're used for enslaving situations.

 
If you have Sexlab Dialogues (As you should coz it's a requirement), talk to someone, if you select "More Dialogues" It's somewhere in there, probably also within "May I..."
Posted

 

 

There is no quest, The quests like "Gold for the wicked", "conveted", "Wanted!" etc don't exist?

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

In that case you can as well answer my question: what dialogue option is it when i ask my Master for work and tells me "get on your knees and beg to be fucked"? What exactly shall i ask NPCs? 

*edit: and how do i know that it worked? Is there some kind of progress/other tasks?

*edit2: And since you really seem to do that stuff: how do you get along with the imho quite boring traveling? Every time the Master meets an NPC he stops and it takes minutes until he moves again.

 

I'm sorry if i sound a bit pissed off, i know you both are just trying to help, but you give answers to questions i didn't ask, or they are just wrong. I've got the "Gold for the wicked" quest once, but that was when i teleported me and the master into the bannered Mare because i was tired of standing around in the middle of nowhere. I don't know if the place is a condition, but i couldn't get it a second time and none of the others.

 

To give an example what answer i'm hoping for:

How to get the "Go and beg to be fucked" dialogue:

conditions: slave lvl 3 and a negative disposition.

Then ask "Master"->"May i..." ->"May i work for you?"

 

and now i'd like to know how to continue from there...

 

They aren't "story quests", they're used for enslaving situations.

 
If you have Sexlab Dialogues (As you should coz it's a requirement), talk to someone, if you select "More Dialogues" It's somewhere in there, probably also within "May I..."

 

I never asked  for story quests, i asked for quests. And no, it's not in "May i...".

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There is no quest, The quests like "Gold for the wicked", "conveted", "Wanted!" etc don't exist?

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

In that case you can as well answer my question: what dialogue option is it when i ask my Master for work and tells me "get on your knees and beg to be fucked"? What exactly shall i ask NPCs? 

*edit: and how do i know that it worked? Is there some kind of progress/other tasks?

*edit2: And since you really seem to do that stuff: how do you get along with the imho quite boring traveling? Every time the Master meets an NPC he stops and it takes minutes until he moves again.

 

I'm sorry if i sound a bit pissed off, i know you both are just trying to help, but you give answers to questions i didn't ask, or they are just wrong. I've got the "Gold for the wicked" quest once, but that was when i teleported me and the master into the bannered Mare because i was tired of standing around in the middle of nowhere. I don't know if the place is a condition, but i couldn't get it a second time and none of the others.

 

To give an example what answer i'm hoping for:

How to get the "Go and beg to be fucked" dialogue:

conditions: slave lvl 3 and a negative disposition.

Then ask "Master"->"May i..." ->"May i work for you?"

 

and now i'd like to know how to continue from there...

 

They aren't "story quests", they're used for enslaving situations.

 
If you have Sexlab Dialogues (As you should coz it's a requirement), talk to someone, if you select "More Dialogues" It's somewhere in there, probably also within "May I..."

 

I never asked  for story quests, i asked for quests. And no, it's not in "May i...".

 

Then that's your own problem, the entire time you've just been vaguely talking about quests, which to nearly anyone else means STORY.

They aren't quests are you can "start", as I've said. They're conditional for the slavery.

 

As for the dialogue, you've got a conflict or a bad install. Uninstall stuff that changes dialogue, make sure you've got a sorted load order, get patches where necessary, make a bashed patch etc.

 

Nothing I've said is wrong, so if you're seeing it that way then you clearly just throw mods in without checking what they even do.

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There is no quest, The quests like "Gold for the wicked", "conveted", "Wanted!" etc don't exist?

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

In that case you can as well answer my question: what dialogue option is it when i ask my Master for work and tells me "get on your knees and beg to be fucked"? What exactly shall i ask NPCs? 

*edit: and how do i know that it worked? Is there some kind of progress/other tasks?

*edit2: And since you really seem to do that stuff: how do you get along with the imho quite boring traveling? Every time the Master meets an NPC he stops and it takes minutes until he moves again.

 

I'm sorry if i sound a bit pissed off, i know you both are just trying to help, but you give answers to questions i didn't ask, or they are just wrong. I've got the "Gold for the wicked" quest once, but that was when i teleported me and the master into the bannered Mare because i was tired of standing around in the middle of nowhere. I don't know if the place is a condition, but i couldn't get it a second time and none of the others.

 

To give an example what answer i'm hoping for:

How to get the "Go and beg to be fucked" dialogue:

conditions: slave lvl 3 and a negative disposition.

Then ask "Master"->"May i..." ->"May i work for you?"

 

and now i'd like to know how to continue from there...

 

They aren't "story quests", they're used for enslaving situations.

 
If you have Sexlab Dialogues (As you should coz it's a requirement), talk to someone, if you select "More Dialogues" It's somewhere in there, probably also within "May I..."

 

I never asked  for story quests, i asked for quests. And no, it's not in "May i...".

 

Then that's your own problem, the entire time you've just been vaguely talking about quests, which to nearly anyone else means STORY.

They aren't quests are you can "start", as I've said. They're conditional for the slavery.

 

As for the dialogue, you've got a conflict or a bad install. Uninstall stuff that changes dialogue, make sure you've got a sorted load order, get patches where necessary, make a bashed patch etc.

 

Nothing I've said is wrong, so if you're seeing it that way then you clearly just throw mods in without checking what they even do.

 

I have all dialogues i'm supposed to have, except this single one. I've tried it with the requirements for SD+ only, no other mods except body and better textures. Load order made by Loot and SD+ was the last one. Now tell me, what's wrong there? Did you ever have that specific dialogue at all or are you just guessing that it should be somewhere? 

 

And yes, maybe i have been unclear, but your answer still isn't helpful. How do i get them? 

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There is no quest, The quests like "Gold for the wicked", "conveted", "Wanted!" etc don't exist?

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

In that case you can as well answer my question: what dialogue option is it when i ask my Master for work and tells me "get on your knees and beg to be fucked"? What exactly shall i ask NPCs? 

*edit: and how do i know that it worked? Is there some kind of progress/other tasks?

*edit2: And since you really seem to do that stuff: how do you get along with the imho quite boring traveling? Every time the Master meets an NPC he stops and it takes minutes until he moves again.

 

I'm sorry if i sound a bit pissed off, i know you both are just trying to help, but you give answers to questions i didn't ask, or they are just wrong. I've got the "Gold for the wicked" quest once, but that was when i teleported me and the master into the bannered Mare because i was tired of standing around in the middle of nowhere. I don't know if the place is a condition, but i couldn't get it a second time and none of the others.

 

To give an example what answer i'm hoping for:

How to get the "Go and beg to be fucked" dialogue:

conditions: slave lvl 3 and a negative disposition.

Then ask "Master"->"May i..." ->"May i work for you?"

 

and now i'd like to know how to continue from there...

 

They aren't "story quests", they're used for enslaving situations.

 
If you have Sexlab Dialogues (As you should coz it's a requirement), talk to someone, if you select "More Dialogues" It's somewhere in there, probably also within "May I..."

 

I never asked  for story quests, i asked for quests. And no, it's not in "May i...".

 

Then that's your own problem, the entire time you've just been vaguely talking about quests, which to nearly anyone else means STORY.

They aren't quests are you can "start", as I've said. They're conditional for the slavery.

 

As for the dialogue, you've got a conflict or a bad install. Uninstall stuff that changes dialogue, make sure you've got a sorted load order, get patches where necessary, make a bashed patch etc.

 

Nothing I've said is wrong, so if you're seeing it that way then you clearly just throw mods in without checking what they even do.

 

I have all dialogues i'm supposed to have, except this single one. I've tried it with the requirements for SD+ only, no other mods except body and better textures. Load order made by Loot and SD+ was the last one. Now tell me, what's wrong there? Did you ever have that specific dialogue at all or are you just guessing that it should be somewhere? 

 

And yes, maybe i have been unclear, but your answer still isn't helpful. How do i get them? 

 

You don't "get them" they just happen, the only one I know of that actually has a thing you can do to that basically just adds an extra journey to being enslaved is if you steal something from someone and they send thugs after you. If you get enslaved by them via combat, maybe even hotkey they'll take you to who sent them.

 

And yes, I have got that dialogue. If you just need to "offer" yourself to someone it's under "may I..." with one of the sex initiating options, if you are asked to work, you just beg an NPC for money, sometimes one will ask for services.

 

It's just a method of money for buying your freedom, it doesn't lead to anything.

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There is no quest, The quests like "Gold for the wicked", "conveted", "Wanted!" etc don't exist?

 

As for leveling up, you just do what you can. The "Enslaved!" quest usually gives some direction. Dialogue problems are all on you, because they worked fine last I checked.

In that case you can as well answer my question: what dialogue option is it when i ask my Master for work and tells me "get on your knees and beg to be fucked"? What exactly shall i ask NPCs? 

*edit: and how do i know that it worked? Is there some kind of progress/other tasks?

*edit2: And since you really seem to do that stuff: how do you get along with the imho quite boring traveling? Every time the Master meets an NPC he stops and it takes minutes until he moves again.

 

I'm sorry if i sound a bit pissed off, i know you both are just trying to help, but you give answers to questions i didn't ask, or they are just wrong. I've got the "Gold for the wicked" quest once, but that was when i teleported me and the master into the bannered Mare because i was tired of standing around in the middle of nowhere. I don't know if the place is a condition, but i couldn't get it a second time and none of the others.

 

To give an example what answer i'm hoping for:

How to get the "Go and beg to be fucked" dialogue:

conditions: slave lvl 3 and a negative disposition.

Then ask "Master"->"May i..." ->"May i work for you?"

 

and now i'd like to know how to continue from there...

 

They aren't "story quests", they're used for enslaving situations.

 
If you have Sexlab Dialogues (As you should coz it's a requirement), talk to someone, if you select "More Dialogues" It's somewhere in there, probably also within "May I..."

 

I never asked  for story quests, i asked for quests. And no, it's not in "May i...".

 

Then that's your own problem, the entire time you've just been vaguely talking about quests, which to nearly anyone else means STORY.

They aren't quests are you can "start", as I've said. They're conditional for the slavery.

 

As for the dialogue, you've got a conflict or a bad install. Uninstall stuff that changes dialogue, make sure you've got a sorted load order, get patches where necessary, make a bashed patch etc.

 

Nothing I've said is wrong, so if you're seeing it that way then you clearly just throw mods in without checking what they even do.

 

I have all dialogues i'm supposed to have, except this single one. I've tried it with the requirements for SD+ only, no other mods except body and better textures. Load order made by Loot and SD+ was the last one. Now tell me, what's wrong there? Did you ever have that specific dialogue at all or are you just guessing that it should be somewhere? 

 

And yes, maybe i have been unclear, but your answer still isn't helpful. How do i get them? 

 

You don't "get them" they just happen, the only one I know of that actually has a thing you can do to that basically just adds an extra journey to being enslaved is if you steal something from someone and they send thugs after you. If you get enslaved by them via combat, maybe even hotkey they'll take you to who sent them.

 

And yes, I have got that dialogue. If you just need to "offer" yourself to someone it's under "may I..." with one of the sex initiating options, if you are asked to work, you just beg an NPC for money, sometimes one will ask for services.

 

It's just a method of money for buying your freedom, it doesn't lead to anything.

 

When i ask how to get quests i don't mean something like "go there and talk to this NPC" etc, i'm asking for the requirements. And there has to be some, otherwise they would happen from the beginning, right? And the quests like "Wanted!" etc are unchecked, but if they exist there has to be a way to get them enabled so they have a chance to start, if the conditions are met. And i'd like to know that way and those conditions. Even if you don't know them all, something like "won't happen before slavery lvl5" would be helpful if you're sure about it.

 

If you had told me that i have to beg for money we wouldn't have had this diskussion... i disabled that dialogue in MCM of SD Dialgogues because i think it's a bit annoying if every NPC has >5 additional dialogues. Now that i know i can enable it again.

 

Slavery lvl: is it possible that it doesn't increase anymore when i can ask for beeing released? After day 3 when i get the dialogue, it didn't increase no matter what i did. (waited some more days, asked "Why me?",...) or is the slavery lvl only increased when i do a lot of stuff for my master? I did some, but not that much before asking "Why me?". I thought it's possible to increase it and get him pissed off, not only one of both.

 

And since you're the first one who said that he really follows the masters to their destination, i'd really like to know: 

How do you get along with those travels? Don't you think they are a bit boring, do you do them anyways, do you have a trick to hurry them or make them less boring?

Like, "I do enough to get the leash removed and do some stuff on my own, master follows me." I recognized that they start to follow me at some point (high trust, i think), but then... i can't figure out anymore what's their destination.

The manual says they give hints about their personality type and you can lookup their destination, but i never figured out any of the personalities... not sure if my english is too bad or if i'm too stupid to get the hints. Actually, i couldn't even find any difference between different masters. Is it that what you use to get their destination?

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On 1/28/2017 at 2:25 PM, Nazzzgul666 said:

When i ask how to get quests i don't mean something like "go there and talk to this NPC" etc, i'm asking for the requirements. And there has to be some, otherwise they would happen from the beginning, right? And the quests like "Wanted!" etc are unchecked, but if they exist there has to be a way to get them enabled so they have a chance to start, if the conditions are met. And i'd like to know that way and those conditions. Even if you don't know them all, something like "won't happen before slavery lvl5" would be helpful if you're sure about it.

 

If you had told me that i have to beg for money we wouldn't have had this diskussion... i disabled that dialogue in MCM of SD Dialgogues because i think it's a bit annoying if every NPC has >5 additional dialogues. Now that i know i can enable it again.

 

Slavery lvl: is it possible that it doesn't increase anymore when i can ask for beeing released? After day 3 when i get the dialogue, it didn't increase no matter what i did. (waited some more days, asked "Why me?",...) or is the slavery lvl only increased when i do a lot of stuff for my master? I did some, but not that much before asking "Why me?". I thought it's possible to increase it and get him pissed off, not only one of both.

 

And since you're the first one who said that he really follows the masters to their destination, i'd really like to know: 

How do you get along with those travels? Don't you think they are a bit boring, do you do them anyways, do you have a trick to hurry them or make them less boring?

Like, "I do enough to get the leash removed and do some stuff on my own, master follows me." I recognized that they start to follow me at some point (high trust, i think), but then... i can't figure out anymore what's their destination.

The manual says they give hints about their personality type and you can lookup their destination, but i never figured out any of the personalities... not sure if my english is too bad or if i'm too stupid to get the hints. Actually, i couldn't even find any difference between different masters. Is it that what you use to get their destination?

I have the same issues with this mod as you do. It looks like an old project so you assume it should have a ton of content, but I can't find any of it. It really seems to be just "follow/be followed and collect X, Y or Z each day". I couldn't get them to finish walking to destination either, I tried to speed it up with a simple speedmult but they make 5 steps in their direction, fight some stupid wolves that wandered into the road, and walk 4 steps back to the camp before remembering "oh, I was going somewhere"... And then "we can stop here" and after that they just walk all the way back to the camp, forgetting about destination completely.

 

I think I just misunderstand this mod, I can't even get masters to play with the character (some random bondage, plugs/belts/whatever - never seen it). So far for me even Whiterun Brothel Revamped and Captured Dreams Shop offer a ton more content than this. Hell, even the barebones "slavery" of Cursed Loot is more fun to try once.

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