Roadie Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 I fixed the issue, but wanted to share... My mod list is long and heavy on the scripting... The game is completely stable while playing, but always seemed to have issues loading. I would either have to start a new game, then load up a save, or make sure I save in a very small cell. Every single CTD or hang, I looked at the Papyrus log and could not find anything that caused them. In my skyrim.ini, i changed fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0 to 1000.00 The game started to load in bigger cells, but still failed in big cities and skyrim. I kept upping that timer and finally have it loading saves correctly the first time in every city. My final setting, able to load in Solitude with 20 NPCs around me was: fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2500.0 This is on an i7-7700K running at 4.8GHz, 32G mem, AMD R9 390X video, and an SSD for storage. Depending on your system, you may need to turn it up even higher. Hopefully this helps anyone else experiencing similar issues. I dealt with starting a new game and loading saves to get around these stalls and CTDs for far too long and I'm so happy this sorted it out.
Frezzy Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 I have the same problem sometimes. I've reduced the amount of CTDs somewhat by turning up the time it takes for script mods to update in their MCM menus. I still get crashes on load if I play on one character for a long time, but it's not as bad as it used to be.
myuhinny Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 The reason why the game has trouble loading when you are running a ton of scripts and script heavy mods is because when you load the save every single solitary script in your game tries to load it's ass up at the same time. Which can cause lag freezes crashes and what not on load time. The reason why it works fine on new saves is because there are not as many active scripts in the save file yet. One trick I use is to start the game and when you get to the load/new game screen open the console screen by hitting the ~ key and typing in COC qasmoke this will warp you to the games testinghall. From there bring up the load screen and try to load the save you are trying to load and it should load up fine unless you have some serious problems in the save file. There is also save cleaners that you could try and see if they can clean up the save file but it doesn't always work.
Roadie Posted January 17, 2017 Author Posted January 17, 2017 While what you say is absolutely true, I got around all off the coc qasmoke/starting a new game/etc. by simply changing that one line in my ini. Now it loads straight from the game menu every time without fail.
khumak Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 The reason why the game has trouble loading when you are running a ton of scripts and script heavy mods is because when you load the save every single solitary script in your game tries to load it's ass up at the same time. Which can cause lag freezes crashes and what not on load time. The reason why it works fine on new saves is because there are not as many active scripts in the save file yet. One trick I use is to start the game and when you get to the load/new game screen open the console screen by hitting the ~ key and typing in COC qasmoke this will warp you to the games testinghall. From there bring up the load screen and try to load the save you are trying to load and it should load up fine unless you have some serious problems in the save file. There is also save cleaners that you could try and see if they can clean up the save file but it doesn't always work. There's a mod called Continue game No Crash that automates that process into 1 step. He has a bunch of other cool utilities as well. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/78557/? I have not had a single instance where the game crashed while loading a save since installing this and I used to get crashes from having too many animations (according to crash fixes).
myuhinny Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 Pity it comes with a .esp I will pass then since I have a full load order and I have done the COC way so much that is pretty quick for me.
squares Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 The reason why the game has trouble loading when you are running a ton of scripts and script heavy mods is because when you load the save every single solitary script in your game tries to load it's ass up at the same time. Which can cause lag freezes crashes and what not on load time. The reason why it works fine on new saves is because there are not as many active scripts in the save file yet. One trick I use is to start the game and when you get to the load/new game screen open the console screen by hitting the ~ key and typing in COC qasmoke this will warp you to the games testinghall. From there bring up the load screen and try to load the save you are trying to load and it should load up fine unless you have some serious problems in the save file. There is also save cleaners that you could try and see if they can clean up the save file but it doesn't always work. Can we please make a sticky thread about ctd on load\continue with this answer? There are 2-3 threads here about this issue every day.
myuhinny Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 The post #5 has a link to a mod called the continue game no crash mod which should work for most people most of the time. I won't use it as it has a .esp and my load order is full and I am so use to doing it the other way it goes faster. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/71915-game-stuck-or-ctd-on-loading-saved-games-but-can-load-saves-after-starting-new-game/?p=1791692
EpicStore2020 Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 hello, my game save is bloated, save tool just crashes when i'm attempting to load that file, here is my modlist: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp EFFCore.esm hdtHighHeel.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm BBLuxurySuite.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm MiasLair.esp Devious Devices - Integration.esm daymoyl.esm RE_RealEstate_Core.esp RaceCompatibility.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp TexturesPack_PL.esp SexLabTools.esp SkyUI.esp Grimy Utilities Interface.esp SmartCast_1_0.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp PredatorsLostTribesV1.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Rebirth Monster.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp BanneredMareExtension.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp FoxClub.esp RE_RealEstate.esp RemoveEssentialPatch.esp PathOfSorcery.esp CCO_SIC_Patch.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RiversideLodge.esp BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp Immersive Weapons.esp VioLens.esp StavesofSkyrim.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp buildablehouse.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Colorful_Magic.esp flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp TradeBarter.esp Teleport.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp CaranthirTowerReborn.esp ScopedBows.esp EeveeFox.esp ResurrectDragon.esp Phenderix Tool - Teleports.esp RayeksEnd.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp ssapbwk.esp DA_Skyship.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp blood magic.esp Plasma Blades.esp Teleport-DG Plugin.esp Mysticism.esp Portals of Skyrim.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp EFFDialogue.esp FISS.esp SkyTweak.esp SpellChargingFramework.esp SpellComboV2.esp UIExtensions.esp wizDynamicThings.esp HeartBreaker.esp FestusKrexSpell.esp FNIS.esp FNIS_PCEA2.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenu.esp Animated Dragon Wings.esp ArrowRecoverySystemOverhaul.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Wives.esp BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp CCF_RND_Patch.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Faction Crossbows.esp Phenderix's Magic Evolved No Perks.esp Kate.esp Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Gifts Of The Outsider.esp Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp skoomadealer.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp Elisif Makeover.esp EternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp JaxonzUtilities.esp LostGrimoire.esp More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp P1FlyingRing.esp Phenderix Energy Consumption.esp Real Flying.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseasesCheckNeedsPL.esp Rebirth Monster - USLEEP Patch.esp Rebirth Monster - Clothing & Clutter Fixes Patch.esp Rebirth Monster - CRF Patch.esp Rebirth Monster - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp Rebirth Monster - WAFR Patch.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ScarletDawnArmor.esp SexLab Brawling Rape.esp SexLab Submit.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp SexLabDefeat.esp ShadowSpellPackage.esp ShadowSpellPackage_DragonbornStaffCrafting.esp SimplyKnock.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp Teleport-DB Plugin.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp Unique Uniques.esp DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp ElementalArrows.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp PuppetMaster.esp KS Hairdo's.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp YourMarketStall.esp RE_HearthFire_Safes_1.esp Aethernautics.esp JoOJediRobeV2.esp Phenderix's Magic Transcended.esp TerminatorRace.esp Mass effect Biotic spells.esp BlackSacramentArmor.esp vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp PoS More Apocalypse Patch.esp FNISspells.esp Atom Bomb.esp GypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.esp Phenderix Tool - Spell Edit.esp Phenderix Tool - Weapon Edit.esp BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp DD_GW_Mark2.esp normandy.esp TaliArmor.esp Magicka Sabers.esp TomahawkACIIIWepMod.esp DBZBattleGloves.esp DBZKaioken.esp DbzKiBlast.esp DBZKiBlastAuto.esp DBZmultidestructodisc.esp SenzuBeandbz.esp Saiyanrace.esp DBZMagc.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp DarkNemesis.esp BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp Broken Angel Armor.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp SLALAnimObj.esp N7 Assassin's Creed Armor.esp Merta Black Rose Armor.esp Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp DragonAspectToggle_DAT.esp More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp JaxonzMCMKicker.esp Immersive Speechcraft.esp Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT_RND.esp Kamehameha.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Scouter.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp Devious Deviants.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp this happens when i'm trying to load a save with Captured Dreams and Deviously Cursed Loot mods installed, but when i remove them and load a save before installation of these mods, the save loads normally, pls help.
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