guk Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 When i enter TFC or TFC 1, the camera sometimes snaps back to 3rd person. Afterwards the 3rd person cam is stuck permanently in a close orbit on the player, and i can no longer cast spells or attack. Basically the same effect like if you try to enter another pose during TFC mode. Doesn't seem to happen in every game session, but when it happens it keeps repeating over and over, making screenarchery impossible. Also persists between reloading, quitting to main menu and save / game restart. I also noticed, that very rarely my character also goes into attack mode as if i had pushed an attack button (which are disabled in TFC anyways). -----> So are there any mods known to do this? I already had a number of suspects that i installed before this started happening - USLEEP, DynDoLOD, Realistic Animation Project Idles. Also turned off Screenshot Assist (which i used for years) but nothing seems to fix this. The only mod that supposedly does this is "Play Random Idle", which i don't even have installed. Don't remember how to export the mod list / load order in MO, so if you want to look in there you'll have to remind me ;-) - TIA
yatol Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 that's because everyone is giving priorities randomly (there's something somewhere about what you aren't supposed to overwrite?) there's probably a standing still package load on npc when a killmove trigger it's lower than some packages i have for those npc, some keep going when i killmove them, and sometime they get out of killmove range, canceling the killmove camera can get stuck for the same reason (camera keep going, without the killmove stuff to tell it where to go, so it stay there waiting for killmove stuff instructions that will never come) tfc 1 then sexlab camera shortcut or $ tfc 1 tfc or $ tfc one way or another camera get back in place (by overwriting the stuck camera by one with highter priority) when you are moving around in tfc 1, it pause the game auto attack won't unpause the game, tfc 1 stuff have highter priority but if you miss the screenshot shortcut and press something that have highter priority than tfc 1 it will unpause the game to do its stuff, without unloading tfc 1 stuff, that will come back after (it won't re pause the game, what's done is done, but you will no longer be able to attack or cast spells or sit or cook or..) loading a save can't fix it, for the same saving a draugr won't wake up if you save before waking him up then loading that save, and for the same reason coc qasmoke allow you to load save the game isn't able to load a reboot will take care of the problem is you use the windows crap that keep useless crap in the ram to reload it faster (and wrong^^)
Naked Ekans Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 I'm also suffering from this problem lately... closing and opening the game fixes it for me at least. I think the mod list in MO is located in the profile folder. If you post it here we could check if there is a mod we both use and see if could be the problem... I'm at the office now, I can't post my list right now.
guk Posted December 6, 2016 Author Posted December 6, 2016 Thanks guys for looking into this. @yatol The problem is, this already can happen when i start a new game with LAL, then choose something indoors without any NPCs (like breezehome) and just type "TFC" into console. I also wait 30+ seconds before and after char creation, and then wait again after the LAL start to make sure that all scripts can initialize. @Naked Ekans Thanks, thought there would be some export button in the interface. Well here is the current load order, most likely any script mods should appear in there. I could also post the mod list, but there are over 600 entries most of which are disabled. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm [JmV]LTTF.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm OblivionHairPackAIO.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm EFFCore.esm JSwords.esm SGHairPackBase.esm RaceCompatibility.esm hdtHighHeel.esm fox_shop.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm FoxPalace_X.esm _00Stages.esp Aibellia.esp AzurasWatch.esp RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp NoRadialBlur.esp EpisodeParallax.esp Skyrim HD Tribute - Roads.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Bethesda_Hi-Res_Optimized.esp RevampedExteriorFog.esp SAM - Shape Atlas for Men.esp SAM - Dawnguard Patch.esp SOS Schlong Controller.esp Eyes of Aber.esp MikanEyes All in one.esp IridumEyes2.0.esp GPPoses.esp 00FacialExpressions.esp HTongues.esp Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Dark Dungeons for Dragonborn.esp Dark Dungeons for Dawnguard.esp JSwords Container.esp EmpyreanWarpaints.esp BHWarPaints.esp FootIKOffSpell.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp Sunglasses_WF.esp Cherry's Eyes.esp UIExtensions.esp HHairstyles.esp KS Hairdo's.esp LovelyHairstylesCE.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp jh_people2.esp Public Poser.esp Halo's Poser.esp Beards.esp SSAssist.esp LadyKdCirclets.esp EFFDialogue.esp KK_Lola_companion_wolfdog.esp Necrosarium.esp TrueBrows.esp Leah Lilith Jewelry.esp KS Jewelry.esp FS_UltimateAssortment.esp SkyUI.esp Osare HeadPhone 2nd.esp Osare HeadPhone.esp CharmingHighHeels.esp Pupetteer Master.esp Lieyes_v1.0.esp TMSG.esp TMSG0Z.esp RutahTattooPack.esp wgwarpaint2p0.esp Kai's Lipstick.esp FreckleMania.esp Tribal Tattoo Overlays.esp RaceMenu.esp MinimalHUD.esp Brows.esp RailLight.esp Skyrim Accessories.esp SGEyebrows.esp Facelight.esp Weathered Road Signs.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Studios.esp The Ningheim.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp Review Studio.esp SteelPlateBikini.esp BandedIronBikini.esp DragonBoneBikini.esp Elewin Sunglasses.esp Wolfbikini.esp SteelBikini.esp AetherSuite.esp SBF All In One + DLC.esp Vivid Landscapes.esp dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp imp_helm_legend.esp Replacement Crowns.esp BladesBikini.esp FNISspells.esp ScreenshotPad.esp AddItemMenu.esp FalmerBikini.esp FoxMerged.esp DonMichHeels.esp DonMichHeelsstock.esp XiNafay - Shoes.esp The Oasis.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp MiniBikini.esp SimpleBikini7B.esp Dwarvenbikini.esp fox52 Armor.esp fox53 Armor.esp fox54 Armor.esp fox55 Armor.esp Tropicalpack.esp Gim Boots.esp SSAssist_Tools.esp AP Eyes.esp LindsHumanEyes.esp DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp Ancient Skyforge Armor.esp BFPU Orcish Armor.esp UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp Veteran Nord Plate.esp LeatherBikini.esp simple omake clothes.esp Notverigud Nordic Carved Bikini.esp Osare Culort Outfit.esp Sport Gear.esp GiantClothArmor.esp NightshadeSuit.esp SC_WitchOfTheWilds.esp Ebokini.esp Leather Clothes.esp BBD_CatsuitSpearhead.esp famitsudlck.esp EbonyValkyrie.esp ParticleField.esp adidas jacket.esp SLbikini.esp DAZ3D Pumps and Stocking.esp Pink Princess Outfit.esp KERESECollection.esp Osare HotPants.esp Darklilith.esp RevampedDSArmor7B.esp _ImoMegane.esp Aradia Kato Outfit.esp WT Tribal Clothe.esp Hot Summer Bikini.esp bonemoldweapons.esp HDTTESTEarring.esp Osare GothicLolita.esp Osare Maid Outfit.esp Neo's Mandu Armours.esp Neo's Kitten.esp Osare Swimsuit.esp Osare Underwear.esp SexyMix.esp UNP Undies.esp Sexy One-Piece.esp FNIS.esp Aradia Cross Armor.esp Remodeled Armor - Merged.esp FashionClothes.esp XN_MicroBikini.esp Northgirl.esp GothiChix.esp SlingArmor.esp FacelightPlus.esp Amb_SimaEffect.esp 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp DynDOLOD.esp DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp SolitudeExterior.esp WhiterunExterior.esp realrain.esp XPMSE.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp edit: INI files from MO, added some settings from STEP where they seemed to make sense skyrim.ini [General] sLanguage = ENGLISH uGridsToLoad = 5 fFlickeringLightDistance = 8192.00 [Display] fDefault1stPersonFOV=70.59 fDefaultFOV=70.59 fDefaultWorldFOV=70.59 fShadowLODMaxStartFade = 1000.0 fSpecularLODMaxStartFade = 2000.0 fLightLODMaxStartFade = 3500.0000 iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 2048 iPresentInterval = 0 bAllowScreenshot = 0 fSunShadowUpdateTime = 0.1000 fSunUpdateThreshold = 2.0000 iTexMipMapSkip = 0 [Audio] fMusicDuckingSeconds = 6.0 fMusicUnDuckingSeconds = 8.0 fMenuModeFadeOutTime = 3.0 fMenuModeFadeInTime = 1.0 [Grass] fGrassFadeRange=18000 bAllowCreateGrass = 1 bAllowLoadGrass = 0 iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure = 15 iMinGrassSize = 70 [GeneralWarnings] SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning = One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive] sResourceArchiveList = Skyrim - Invalidation.bsa, Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa sResourceArchiveList2 = Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa bInvalidateOlderFiles =1 SInvalidationFile = [Combat] fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult = 0.0 fMagnetismLookingMult = 0.0 f1PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7 f3PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7 f1PBoltTiltUpAngle = 0.7 f3PBoltTiltUpAngle = 0.7 [Papyrus] fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS = 500.0 bEnableLogging = 0 bEnableTrace = 0 bLoadDebugInformation = 0 [Water] bReflectLODObjects = 1 bReflectLODLand = 1 bReflectSky = 1 bReflectLODTrees = 1 [Camera] fOverShoulderAddY = 0.0 fOverShoulderPosZ = -18.0 ; 18 for gameplay fOverShoulderPosX = 0.0 fOverShoulderCombatAddY = 0.0 fOverShoulderCombatPosZ = 24.0 fOverShoulderCombatPosX = 0.0 fOverShoulderHorseAddY = -72.0 fOverShoulderHorsePosZ = 50.0 fOverShoulderHorsePosX = 35.0 fActorFadeOutLimit = -100 fMouseWheelZoomSpeed = 60.0 f1st3rdSwitchDelay = 0.95 iHorseTransitionMillis = 001 [Actor] fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist = 12288.0000 skyrimprefs.ini [General] fBrightLightColorB = 1.0000 fBrightLightColorG = 1.0000 fBrightLightColorR = 1.0000 iStoryManagerLoggingEvent =-1 bEnableStoryManagerLogging =0 [imagespace] bDoDepthOfField =1 iRadialBlurLevel = 2 bDoRadialBlur = 0 [Display] iPresentInterval = 0 iBlurDeferredShadowMask =5 fInteriorShadowDistance =3000.0000 fShadowDistance =8000.0000 iShadowMapResolutionSecondary = 1024 iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 2048 iShadowSplitCount = 2 iMaxAnisotropy =0 fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd =4600.0000 fLeafAnimDampenDistStart =3600.0000 fTreesMidLODSwitchDist =10000000.0000 fGamma =1.0000 fDecalLOD2 =1500.0000 fDecalLOD1 =1000.0000 fSpecularLODStartFade =2000.0000 fShadowLODStartFade =200.0000 fLightLODStartFade =3500.0000 iTexMipMapMinimum =0 iTexMipMapSkip =0 iWaterMultiSamples =0 iMultiSample =0 iShadowMode =3 bTreesReceiveShadows =1 bDrawLandShadows =1 bFull Screen =1 iSize H =2160 iSize W =3840 fMeshLODFadePercentDefault =1.2000 fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault =256.0000 fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance =2048.0000 fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance =2844.0000 fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist =10000000.0000 fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist =10000000.0000 iScreenShotIndex =6 bShadowMaskZPrepass =0 bMainZPrepass =0 iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame =150 iMaxDecalsPerFrame =800 bFloatPointRenderTarget =1 bShadowsOnGrass =1 sD3DDevice = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980" bFXAAEnabled =0 iShadowMapResolution =4096 fShadowBiasScale =0.1500 iShadowMaskQuarter =4 iAdapter = 0 iShadowFilter =4 bTransparencyMultisampling =0 bDeferredShadows =1 bDrawShadows =1 [Grass] b30GrassVS =0 fGrassStartFadeDistance =7000.0000 fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance =7000.0000 fGrassMinStartFadeDistance =0.0000 [MAIN] bGamepadEnable =0 bCrosshairEnabled =1 fHUDOpacity =1.0000 bSaveOnPause =0 bSaveOnTravel =0 bSaveOnWait =0 bSaveOnRest =0 fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=600000.0000 ; 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Naked Ekans Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 Hmm, the majority of your mods are armors, accessories, etc. I honestly don't see what could be the cause. Did you updated XPMSE recently? I think it was the last mod I updated prior to this, but I don't know if or how XPMSE could interfere with the camera. By the way, one thing I noticed is that you have both facelight and facelight plus on your load order, and the last version of plus don't require the original mod.
guk Posted December 6, 2016 Author Posted December 6, 2016 Alright XPMSE was a good lead, searching in the comments shows FNIS 6+ being the source of this bug. Supposedly XPMSE contains a workaround, but apparently it's no longer functional. May have to roll back a couple of versions until this is gone; although i currently have 3.90 installed and there was a 3.91 update last month. I'll post again once i figure out which version works.
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