Other places where I can seek support?

[BlaineSensei]

uhh

 

i am really desperate to get my issue fixed , i am in no position to be able to download the game again

 

also the fact that i recently did

 

i have crash dumps (several in fact , with the two i checked claiming access violation or something and are a bit different )

 

i have a papyrus log that is so messy that i cant understand one bit , i bet i wouldnt be able to read it even if it was sorted out....

 

so where can i get support aside from this place, since i havent been able to get help here ( also i know its community based but as mentioned before i am really desperate)

[prinyo]

What I understand from your previous posts is that your Skyrim was destroyed by the NMM virtualization update the way the update annihilated the game for thousands and thousand of players. I'm affraid that the solution is only one - reinstall Skyrim (as in make a clean install) and start installing the mods one by one.

When you have crashes it can help to verify the game files integrity via Steam. 

The way you describe the crash at the Abandoned prison it is possible that there is  a mod that is half-installed. Doing a complete clean reinstall of Skyrim and the mods seems to me the only possible solution.

 

And, this is my personal opinion and others might not agree, but the older NMM version (0.56.1) is the best to use for Skyrim and the other games except FO4. This is not going to change soon as they don't have plans to offer new versions with non-virtual installation process. 

[BlaineSensei]

What I understand from your previous posts is that your Skyrim was destroyed by the NMM virtualization update the way the update annihilated the game for thousands and thousand of players. I'm affraid that the solution is only one - reinstall Skyrim (as in make a clean install) and start installing the mods one by one.

When you have crashes it can help to verify the game files integrity via Steam. 

The way you describe the crash at the Abandoned prison it is possible that there is  a mod that is half-installed. Doing a complete clean reinstall of Skyrim and the mods seems to me the only possible solution.

 

And, this is my personal opinion and others might not agree, but the older NMM version (0.56.1) is the best to use for Skyrim and the other games except FO4. This is not going to change soon as they don't have plans to offer new versions with non-virtual installation process. 

 

ok i already got that part that it was due to nmm being a bitch but meh

 

gotta redownload that game again?" T- T

 

i dont have a fast net like most of you guys do

 

integrity check just redownloads the skyrimprefs.ini and nothing more ( 1 file failed to verify and that being the settings file which launcher generates) ugh

 

[Eth4rlad]

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".

 

EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".

 

Looks like your PC fails to access memory that is either in use by another programm, no longer present, wrongly adressed or not allowed to be accessed because you're not running as administrator. There are so many possible reasons for this i honestly don't know how to help you with this.

 

Maybe a dedicated subreddit or /tech/ at 4chan/8chan?

[BlaineSensei]

 

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".

 

EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx" referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".

 

Looks like your PC fails to access memory that is either in use by another programm, no longer present, wrongly adressed or not allowed to be accessed because you're not running as administrator. There are so many possible reasons for this i honestly don't know how to help you with this.

 

Maybe a dedicated subreddit or /tech/ at 4chan/8chan?

 

 

uuuh the exception code is constant throughout all dumps , with the exception address ever changing

 

papyrus log needed?

 

[prinyo]

Did you install SKSE via Steam? If so - run the integrity check for it too.

 

Do you start the game as an administrator? Do you run NMM as an administrator?

 

The idea about the clean install is to make sure you are running a clean vanilla Skyrim. This will show you if the problem is with the game or with a mod. The biggest parts of the download are the bsa files. You can try to delete everything in the "data" folder except for the bsa files and run the integrity check on Skyrim and SKSE. This will get you a clean install without a big download.

 

 

Added:

 

According to this it can be a driver problem. Or according to this it can be a hardware problem. They suggest running this - http://www.memtest86.com/

This can be extremely helpful - http://store.steampowered.com/app/403040/

But trying to debug the problem while also using mods makes it harder as it is harder to asses if the mods are causing crashes or something Windows or hardware related. 

 

[BlaineSensei]

Did you install SKSE via Steam? If so - run the integrity check for it too.

 

Do you start the game as an administrator? Do you run NMM as an administrator?

 

The idea about the clean install is to make sure you are running a clean vanilla Skyrim. This will show you if the problem is with the game or with a mod. The biggest parts of the download are the bsa files. You can try to delete everything in the "data" folder except for the bsa files and run the integrity check on Skyrim and SKSE. This will get you a clean install without a big download.

 

 

Added:

 

According to this it can be a driver problem. Or according to this it can be a hardware problem. They suggest running this - http://www.memtest86.com/

This can be extremely helpful - http://store.steampowered.com/app/403040/

 

i ran for that too , it seems all ok

testing the added stuff

[Eth4rlad]

 

papyrus log needed?

 

 

 

Can't hurt to look i guess. But judging from your Crash logs i have to agree that a clean reinstall is pretty much the best option at this point since you're either missing some files because the NMM fuckup destroyed them or it's a problem with your PC, namely memory allocation.

 

According to this it can be a driver problem. Or according to this it can be a hardware problem.

 

The second one is referencing a null pointer, which i don't see in the crash log. The other one points at memory corruption, which i too suspect and yeah, i'm afraid that could have a multitude of reasons.

[prinyo]

I see that Driver Booster on Steam has some negative reviews that are related to the way it updates drivers. I didn't have problems with it but maybe it is better to update the drivers it shows as old via the official channels of the hardware producers.

[prinyo]

But if you have crashes that are always the same - during the initialization of the mods, this kind of hints to problem with a mod. If you don't want to do a clean reinstall of the game you can try removing all the mods and make sure that all their files are removed.

 

Added

Also do you use some SKSE plugins? THey are written in C++ and I guess they can also cause problem like the one you see in the crash dump.

[BlaineSensei]

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But if you have crashes that are always the same - during the initialization of the mods, this kind of hints to problem with a mod. If you don't want to do a clean reinstall of the game you can try removing all the mods and make sure that all their files are removed.

 

Added

Also do you use some SKSE plugins? THey are written in C++ and I guess they can also cause problem like the one you see in the crash dump.

 

uhhh one crash dump mentioned hdtphysicsextensionR

that?

Papyrus.0.log

Papyrus.1.log

[echotest123]

I hope that one helps in case of future problems: make a separate copy of your freshly instaled Skyrim folder (the one in steamapps/common) to use as backup, if you don't reinstal steam, instal BIG updates for the way steam works or reinstal your windows, you can always revert to a working 'clean instal' of your skyrim by deleting your damaged instal-folder and copy+pasting the backup. You may need to verify your gamecache, but that should be a minor annoyance.

[prinyo]

It is too much of a guessing game.

I still believe that the best option is to be sure that you can run the vanilla game with no problems and then install the mods in correct and organized manner. 

 

But it seems the problem is caused by a mod that uses a SKSE plugin or a dll. That would explain a low level error that appears consistently at one and the same time in the game.

 

However if you find the source of this problem and fix it but don't fix the real problem that there are unknown number of incorrectly/not fully installed mods you will simply run into more and more problems in the future.

[BlaineSensei]

I hope that one helps in case of future problems: make a separate copy of your freshly instaled Skyrim folder (the one in steamapps/common) to use as backup, if you don't reinstal steam, instal BIG updates for the way steam works or reinstal your windows, you can always revert to a working 'clean instal' of your skyrim by deleting your damaged instal-folder and copy+pasting the backup. You may need to verify your gamecache, but that should be a minor annoyance.

 

i do have a pirated copy of skyrim (idk why) i got the game from steam doh

 

i got it from a friend

 

tried to use it for my last re-install by putting it inplace of my steamapp folder and then running integ check but then steam deletes dlc bsa's so...

 

gonna redownload skyrim anyways

 

also if u think i dont own a legit copy of the game

my steam link

 

http://steamcommunity.com/id/noobicanfly

 

feel free to msg me xD

 

~Golden Boy FTW~ (the profile pic xD)

extra ques - anything aside from nmm?

 

cant use mo since weak ass pc

 

also since 56.1 didnt have re-install as an option and was a bit ugly to look at all those cancel symbols

[prinyo]

The mod manager is not supposed to be beautiful, it is supposed to be stable and to work correctly :-)

 

The new NMM version still has the problem that sometimes it fill fail to fully install or uninstall a mod leaving stray files for the game to deal with. It happens rarely but when it does happen it can be quite hard to debug.

 

Delete this pirated copy and save the files from the clean install instead as echotest123 suggests :-)

[SepticSpoon]

 

"i do have a pirated copy of skyrim (idk why) i got the game from steam doh"

 

"also since 56.1 didnt have re-install as an option and was a bit ugly to look at all those cancel symbols"

 

Why run a pirated copy when you own the game?

 

In MO you can change the style/theme of it if you don't like how it looks. But "prinyo" is 100% correct.

 

currently at 197 esps (cap is 250. I think) and running at 50-ish fps. Will have to start looking into merge plugins in the future. (scary thought)

[Sarge Misfit]

I'm not familiar enough with NMM to comment on it, other than that I manually install my mods. However, I have had similar "access violations" with Skyrim and other games. I found that running the installer itself as Administrator fixes most of that, then setting the game's executable to run as Administrator fixed the rest. I haven't had an "access violation" since I started doing new installs that way.

[prinyo]

OP doesn't run a pirated copy. They said that they have a pirated copy that they tried to use as backup but it was not successful as Steam deleted it.

 

The crash doesn't happen at the start of the game. It happens at the initialization of the mods after the racemenu in LAL. 

Before that OP had another problem when the game crashed when trying to load the Abandoned prison cell. After that was fixed this new problem presented iteself. As their mod setup is obviously broken even if this problem is fixed there will most probably be another later. That's why my idea is that the best solution is to make a clean install and start installing mods one by one in an organized manner. 

[Sarge Misfit]

My copy of Skyrim is from that short period of time when Legendary Edition was released and before Steam got involved.

 

But, I did the same with my Fallout 4 installation, which, though I have the disc, does use Steam. All you do is open the installation disc,  RClick the installer to get the menu and choose Run s Administrator.

 

And you are correct, sometimes, it takes a complete 'do over', a fresh, clean install. I simply recommend the steps I outlined

[echotest123]

 

I hope that one helps in case of future problems: make a separate copy of your freshly instaled Skyrim folder (the one in steamapps/common) to use as backup, if you don't reinstal steam, instal BIG updates for the way steam works or reinstal your windows, you can always revert to a working 'clean instal' of your skyrim by deleting your damaged instal-folder and copy+pasting the backup. You may need to verify your gamecache, but that should be a minor annoyance.

 

i do have a pirated copy of skyrim (idk why) i got the game from steam doh

 

i got it from a friend

 

tried to use it for my last re-install by putting it inplace of my steamapp folder and then running integ check but then steam deletes dlc bsa's so...

 

gonna redownload skyrim anyways

 

also if u think i dont own a legit copy of the game

my steam link

 

http://steamcommunity.com/id/noobicanfly

 

feel free to msg me xD

 

~Golden Boy FTW~ (the profile pic xD)

extra ques - anything aside from nmm?

 

cant use mo since weak ass pc

 

also since 56.1 didnt have re-install as an option and was a bit ugly to look at all those cancel symbols

 

 

Didn't mean to imply anything, just wanted to give you some (hopefully) helpfull advice, given that I, too, have a very bad connection, max download-speed is 300kb/sec....

 

[myuhinny]

The best thing I did a long time ago was stop NMM from ever updating because they kept breaking shit and shoving in more worthless bells and whistles that were not needed. You might also want to do that revert back to a good version and then never update it again. You will not be able to sign in or download through NMM but who cares it's not that hard to go there and download the file manually and drop it into your NMM folder.

[BlaineSensei]

 

 

"i do have a pirated copy of skyrim (idk why) i got the game from steam doh"

 

"also since 56.1 didnt have re-install as an option and was a bit ugly to look at all those cancel symbols"

 

Why run a pirated copy when you own the game?

 

In MO you can change the style/theme of it if you don't like how it looks. But "prinyo" is 100% correct.

 

currently at 197 esps (cap is 250. I think) and running at 50-ish fps. Will have to start looking into merge plugins in the future. (scary thought)

 

 

vvvvvvvvvv answer in this quote vvvvvvvvvv

 

also my pc is weak beyond measure , so it cant even handle 12 mods from MO due to the fact that it loads data from a separate folder

and MO has given me loads of trouble in the past , just because of the overwrite issues

OP doesn't run a pirated copy. They said that they have a pirated copy that they tried to use as backup but it was not successful as Steam deleted it.

 

The crash doesn't happen at the start of the game. It happens at the initialization of the mods after the racemenu in LAL. 

Before that OP had another problem when the game crashed when trying to load the Abandoned prison cell. After that was fixed this new problem presented iteself. As their mod setup is obviously broken even if this problem is fixed there will most probably be another later. That's why my idea is that the best solution is to make a clean install and start installing mods one by one in an organized manner. 

 

the crash happens in any cell , since i have had previous saves , loading a clean save (downloaded off the net a 100% save) loads correctly and lets me play for a while and then it rage quits (*ahem*) to desktop outta nowhere (nothing specific as to where it crashes

the save places me at severin manor , once i was able to leave the manor and go solstheim , it ctd somewhere in the middle of the town

once it crashed while i was scrolling inventory..

 

 

 

I hope that one helps in case of future problems: make a separate copy of your freshly instaled Skyrim folder (the one in steamapps/common) to use as backup, if you don't reinstal steam, instal BIG updates for the way steam works or reinstal your windows, you can always revert to a working 'clean instal' of your skyrim by deleting your damaged instal-folder and copy+pasting the backup. You may need to verify your gamecache, but that should be a minor annoyance.

 

i do have a pirated copy of skyrim (idk why) i got the game from steam doh

 

i got it from a friend

 

tried to use it for my last re-install by putting it inplace of my steamapp folder and then running integ check but then steam deletes dlc bsa's so...

 

gonna redownload skyrim anyways

 

also if u think i dont own a legit copy of the game

my steam link

 

http://steamcommunity.com/id/noobicanfly

 

feel free to msg me xD

 

~Golden Boy FTW~ (the profile pic xD)

extra ques - anything aside from nmm?

 

cant use mo since weak ass pc

 

also since 56.1 didnt have re-install as an option and was a bit ugly to look at all those cancel symbols

 

 

Didn't mean to imply anything, just wanted to give you some (hopefully) helpfull advice, given that I, too, have a very bad connection, max download-speed is 300kb/sec....

 

 

uh you are lucky my max download speed in kilo bytes per sec would be 70

my country is something i have no affection too T_ T

 

The best thing I did a long time ago was stop NMM from ever updating because they kept breaking shit and shoving in more worthless bells and whistles that were not needed. You might also want to do that revert back to a good version and then never update it again. You will not be able to sign in or download through NMM but who cares it's not that hard to go there and download the file manually and drop it into your NMM folder.

i already have multiple versions of nmm installers downloaded

haha

[BlaineSensei]

additional ques

 

i used steam to backup the game , that works right?

 

i managed to get my dad to download the game so i have a vanilla game now

[BlaineSensei]

shit still not working , i has lost all hope T- T

[prinyo]

What exactly is not working?