Lendova Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Load order: Active Mod Files:00 Oblivion.esm01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36]02 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.4]++ Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp03 DLCShiveringIsles.esp04 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.8]05 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36]06 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36]07 Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp08 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.1]09 Better Bell Sounds.esp++ Symphony of Violence.esp0A Atmospheric Oblivion.esp0B WindowLightingSystem.esp0C Book Jackets Oblivion.esp0D StandingJOJO.esp0E DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp0F DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]10 OblivionReloaded.esp++ OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp11 DLCHorseArmor.esp12 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]13 DLCOrrery.esp14 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]15 DLCVileLair.esp16 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]17 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp18 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]19 DLCSpellTomes.esp++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp1A Immersive Weapons.esp++ Weapon Improvement Project.esp [Version 1.9]** TGND.esp** TGND_SI.esp1B TGND Fantabulous Formal Dresses.esp1C TGND_Lingerie_Underwear.esp1D Underwear TGND.esp1E DLCThievesDen.esp1F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.14]20 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.13]++ Alluring Wine Bottles.esp21 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp22 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12]23 DLCFrostcrag.esp24 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]25 Knights.esp26 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8]** TGND2 Knights Replacer.esp [Version 1.0.1]27 Elz - No Floating Weapon.esp** Grass Overhaul.esp++ Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp28 Skill Perk Descriptions.esp [Version 1.1]29 Summon Dremora Lord Saved.esp2A Oblivion XP.esp2B CTAddPose_Pinups.esp2C CTAddPose_Pinups_2.esp2D CTAddPose_Pinups_3.esp2E CTAddPose_Halo.esp2F actors_in_charge.esp30 EFGAddPose.esp31 The Uguu Poser.esp32 Kaleencolors.esp33 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.36]34 Bashed Patch, 0.esp35 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.7.2] What else should I post and check?
Fienyx Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp <----- Delete this. OCO instructions. Where are you crashing? also, I think you only need one of these 2 07 Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp08 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp Not sure you can really even use enhanced water with OR.
Lendova Posted July 15, 2016 Author Posted July 15, 2016 Removed the above mentioned mod and .esp. Crashes still. If I cross the water on left side, then I can move closer to my quest objective for a while. But once I get closer and starting to approach some kind of ruins again, the same happens.
Fienyx Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 It could just be an odd crash spot. You really don't have many mods and I'm not sure if the DLC's would do it. Did you clean them with TES4Edit? I had an odd spot once, just outside weynon priory. I redid the LOD, and that fixed it. Sometimes I swear Bethesda figured out how to program gremlins into this game. Lol Here's what I have Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36] 02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 03 Open Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.1.6] 04 Harvest[Containers].esm 05 Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm 06 Dynamic Underwear System.esm 07 CLS-Craftybits.esm 08 A_Bloody_Mess.esm 09 Lovers with PK.esm 0A TamagoClub.esm 0B HiyokoClub.esm 0C LoversCreature.esm 0D Fundament.esm [Version ision] 0E CustomSpellIcons.esm 0F ScreenEffects.esm ++ Icon Overhaul.esp 10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.4] 11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 12 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.8] 13 A Strange Door.esp 14 LoadingScreens.esp 15 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36] 16 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36] 17 ImmersiveInteriorsFull.esp [Version 0.8.1] @ 18 Better Bell Sounds.esp ++ Symphony of Violence.esp ++ Diverse Voices.esp [Version 0.1a] 19 Better Rainbows.esp ++ Advanced Water Modification-2734.esp 1A All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.36] 1B WindowLightingSystem.esp 1C EnableFreeLookOBSE.esp 1D ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp ++ ClocksOfCyrodiil - ChorrolTextureChange.esp ++ Cyrodilic Brandy.esp 1E Dialogue Idles.esp ++ NPCs Eat More.esp 1F See You Sleep DLL.esp 20 PTFallingStars.esp 21 Walk to Oblivion - OBSE.esp 22 Willful Resistance.esp 23 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3] 24 Container Menu Support.esp 25 Display Stats.esp [Version 2.0.1] 26 Get Wet.esp 27 kuerteeSittableRocks.esp 28 MigFEA.esp [Version 2.1.3] 29 SwimmingEquipment.esp 2A sycNiceToMeetYou.esp 2B Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.42] 2C Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2] 2D ScreenControls.esp 2E BookTrackerOBSE.esp 2F Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1] 30 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3] 31 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3] 32 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1] 33 UtilityKeys.esp @ ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp ++ FemaleImperialDragonCuirass.esp ++ VA_FemmeDaedricHelmet.esp 34 StockClothingArmorBBBHGEC_Standard_ECupLBotPPN.esp 35 Alluring Books.esp ++ CM_Better Wine_SI.esp 36 HGEC Underwear-DUS.esp 37 RM Underwear-DUS.esp 38 SpeechcraftEnhanced.esp 39 UAP Listed.esp @ 3A Unique Enticing Skill Books.esp 3B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 3C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ++ Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp ++ Alluring Wine Bottles.esp ++ Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore Respawn.esp ++ Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp ++ Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp 3D WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp 3E Bandit Hideouts.esp 3F BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.1.2] 40 Fighters Guild Quests.esp 41 IC-MakeOver.esp @ 42 Imperial City Suburbs.esp 43 Mages Guild Quests.esp 44 MTCExpandedVillages.esp 45 Secret Sanctuary v1.esp 46 SMChorrol.esp 47 Stonehenge.esp 48 Tavern-Goers 2.esp 49 Temple District Repaired.esp [Version 1.0] 4A Werewolf-Legends.esp 4B Whispered Warning.esp 4C BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp [Version 1.0.2] 4D Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0] 4E ROC+Fighters Guild Quests.esp 4F MTCEV-RoC Patch.esp 50 HESU AppleHotSprings.esp 51 ROC-AppleHotSprings Patch.esp 52 HESU HellLands.esp 53 HESU PoisonSwamp.esp 54 HESU SkyrimTemple.esp 55 HESU GnollMountain.esp 56 HESU SmokeTown.esp 57 HESU ValenwoodMine.esp 58 HESU GreatForestGorge.esp 59 HESU Shipton.esp 5A ROC-Shipton Patch.esp 5B xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 5C xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 5D xulTheHeath.esp 5E xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] 5F xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 60 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] 61 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3] 62 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] 63 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.5] 64 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.3] 65 GreatForestGorge-LushWoodlands Patch.esp 66 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] 67 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 68 ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp [Version 1.0] 69 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 6A HellLands-Cloudtop Patch.esp 6B xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] 6C xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 6D SmokeTown-ArriusCreek Patch.esp 6E xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.3] 6F xulPantherRiver.esp 70 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 71 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] 72 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8] 73 ImperialCitySuburbs-ImperialIsle patch.esp 74 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.1] 75 PoisonSwamp-BlackwoodForest Patch.esp 76 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 77 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.3] 78 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] 79 ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp 7A xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.6] 7B Snowdale - Fighters Guild Quests Patch.esp 7C MTCExpandedVillages-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp [Version 1.0a] 7D SkyrimTemple-Snowdale Patch.esp 7E GnollMountain-Snowdale Patch.esp 7F xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.1.3] 80 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.4] 81 BanditHideouts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp [Version 1.0] 82 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.2] 83 SkyrimTemple-JerallGlacier Patch.esp 84 SkyrimTemple-SmokeTown-JerallGlacier Patch.esp 85 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.2] 86 Open Cities New Sheoth.esp [Version 2.0.1] 87 Open Cities Outer Districts.esp [Version 4.1.6] 88 Open Cities Reborn.esp [Version 1.1.7] 89 ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - OCR.esp [Version 1.1.5] 8A OCR-East Wind.esp 8B OCR-Flags Removed.esp 8C OCR+ULCH Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 8D ROC+UL-II+OCOD Patch.esp [Version 1.0] 8E OCR+ULBWForest Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2] 8F OCR+Cheydinhal Falls Patch.esp [Version 1.1] 90 OCR+ULSkingradOutskirts Patch.esp [Version 2.0] 91 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 92 BetterPirates.esp ++ A Bloody Mess_Fix.esp 93 A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp ++ A Bloody Mess - Armor Shader Supression.esp 94 CL_Tools_and_Clutter.esp 95 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 96 DS Storage Sacks.esp [Version 1.3] 97 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp 98 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp 99 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp 9A GuildAdvancement.esp ++ Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp 9B LettersAndMessages.esp @ ++ more books teach.esp 9C More Gold in Locked Containers-5976.esp 9D Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp [Version 1.1] 9E PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43] 9F kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp A0 kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp A1 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp A2 SetsunaDummyTraining.esp ++ Short Grass V3.esp A3 SmokingSystem.esp @ A4 SPTDiverseBandits.esp A5 tbskGuardsFeatures.esp A6 CLS-Craftybits.esp ++ CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue.esp [Version 1.1] A7 CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue-Ragplacer.esp ++ CB-Weights_Hard.esp A8 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3] A9 Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.4.3] AA AppleHotSprings-AltBeginnings Patch.esp AB CombatOmega.esp AC Elz - Realistic Gravity.esp AD AdvancedHealthRegen.esp AE Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.3] AF Basic Personal Hygiene.esp [Version 3.0] B0 BPH_InnsHaveTubs.esp B1 DiseaseImmunity.esp B2 Vampire Revolution.esp [Version v1.13] B3 HumantouchNPC.esp B4 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] B5 MCS extension.esp B6 SetBody.esp ++ Diverse Effect Icons.esp B7 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp B8 RshAlchemy.esp ++ RshAlchemy - AVU.esp [Version 1.0] B9 RshAlchemyRecipes.esp BA StolenItemOwnership.esp BB UltimateToolBoxV2.esp @ BC ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp BD zzEstrus.esp ++ zzEstrus_noFX_for_v1.9r5.esp BE sycHearNoEvil.esp [Version 1.0] BF Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] C0 Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp C1 nGCD.esp C2 Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp C3 zzEDialog.esp C4 HAZeatanimations.esp ** Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp ** Cava Obscura - SI.esp ** Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp ++ Script effect - Bash icon.esp [Version 1.01] C5 Chimaera.esp C6 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] C7 Automatic Timescale Plus.esp [Version 1.1.1] C8 Birthsigns Expanded.esp C9 OCR+Werewolf Patch.esp [Version 1.0] ** GW71_Life_Detect.esp CA qazFingerSnap.esp ++ DBED - 7 murders Level delay.esp [Version 1.0] ** ROC - OCReborn Road Record.esp CB Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.36] CC LandMagicPatch.esp ++ MoreFemales.esp CD Bashed Patch, 0.esp CE TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp CF TamagoDischarge.esp D0 LoversTamagoClub.esp D1 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp D2 LoversEncounter.esp D3 HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] D4 HiyokoGenerator.esp D5 HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp D6 HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp D7 hggf_hiyokoclub_fix.esp D8 TamagoSetBody.esp D9 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp DA LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp DB LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2a] DC LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp DD LoversRaperS.esp DE LoversJoburg.esp DF LoversPayBandit.esp E0 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] E1 LoversBitch.esp E2 LBPMill.esp E3 LoversCreature.esp E4 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] E5 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp E6 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp E7 LoversImmoralSisters.esp E8 LoversMagic.esp E9 LoversSlaveTrader.esp EA LoversStripper.esp EB LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp EC FuroGeneratorTrap.esp ED xlds.esp EE xldsFuro.esp EF LoversAchievments.esp F0 LoversAdultYield.esp F1 LAPF Afterglow.esp F2 LoversChorus.esp F3 LoversJoystick.esp F4 LoversLight.esp F5 LoversPrimalUrge.esp F6 LoversSatisfaction.esp F7 LoversSexSense.esp [Version 0.5.3] F8 SlofsAnimals.esp @ F9 LoversMB2.esp FA Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp FB LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp FC Lovers3dorgasm.esp FD LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp It's a problem....... We're allowed 254, so I do my best to get 254...... but then I find more I want in........ so I learned how to use gecko......... if I were to count all the mods seperalty that I have merged together....... marked with a @ to the right...... I have 306..... Obviously, I needed more than Gecko. TesEdit, CSE.............. great hobby.
fejeena Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 The DLCs do not affect Shivering isle and the Shivering isle esp is empty ( the only DLC esp you must not clean) OK cleaning Mods is always good. And yes the LOD can crash the game. If you use TES4LODGen and you change your load order run TES4LODGen again. And also a bug in a old save can crash the game....but you went to a new place so there should be no old bug. Your Load order is ok. If you want to clean Mods: Link for TES4Edit and cleaning guide, read my yellow Link below.
Lendova Posted July 15, 2016 Author Posted July 15, 2016 Thats literally the first time I'm "discovering" the Shivering Isles. Its a shame, since I bought it on a disc around 2008-2009? I cleaned all mentioned files here a while ago. http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Hishutup/OblivionGuide Which are: Knights.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCVileLair.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCOrrey.espDLCMehrunesRazor.esp Not sure what I cleaned later as well. Yesterday I cleaned the grass overhaul.esp, no more flagged .esp in BOSS report. Ran TESlodgen already, still crashing at the same loacations.
Fienyx Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Yeah, sounds like a random oblivion bug. Honestly, I've never been to the isles yet. Been playing for 7 years, got pissed when the end of the MQ just had me sitting there while the bastard child gets to become a dragon. Then I discovered mods 3-4 years ago, haven't talked to Martin since, lol. Just never got around to walking through that door. There were too many mods to test in Cyrodiil first.
fejeena Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Shit, then it's hard to find the bug. It can be a bad mesh or a mesh without normal texture ( no textures are purple meshes in game, but if only the normal map is missing the game crash ) So deactivate Mods and test maybe can not resolve or find the error if the Mod have some vanilla replacer meshes. But first you can try it, deactivate Mods and test. Mods I would try first, and maybe unistall if deactivate esp did not helped. Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul has vanilla replacer meshes ( e.g. creatures ) All Natural - SI.esp Atmospheric Oblivion.esp ??? Kaleencolors.esp ???? What's that ?
Lendova Posted July 15, 2016 Author Posted July 15, 2016 No crash with this: TEMPORARY DEACTIVATION- Rename OblivionReloaded.dll in OblivionReloaded.dll.noload in your Data\OBSE\Plugins- Deactivate the OblivionReloaded.esp- Deactivate the OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp My current charcater have 60+ hours playtime with OR, not had serious issue like this before. Kaleencolors is a race mod.
Fienyx Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 The race in the profile pic. I merged it with my copy of loversmagic, set the succubus to one of the multitude of kaleen thatr come with the mod, saved just that one and unchecked the playable flag so she's the only one. Looked like a nice demi-deamon race. Did you upgrade OR recently?
Fienyx Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Could be with the upgrade. I stopped using OR a while ago. I really like the shaders and FX, but IMO, it's touching too much. Went with this and Advanced Water Modification for the water.
Lendova Posted July 17, 2016 Author Posted July 17, 2016 Thank you guys for the provided tips and advices!
Lendova Posted July 18, 2016 Author Posted July 18, 2016 Np, I take it you got everything sorted out? The major problem solved, I learned new things as well from you guys. In the other hand, looks like I cant solve the memory limit related crashes. 4GB patch is applied to Oblivion.exe, but the game still crash after some roaming around 1.8+ GB memory usage.
varenne Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Wasn't there another tool related MOD for occasionally clearing the cache, while in-game? I forget the name but I think it was on Nexus, not here. That could help with your memory CTDs. I don't remember if it is configurable; how often it triggers.
DogOnPorch Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Yes...Purge Cell Buffer...there are numerous versions. I think this is the one I'm using. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/9139/? You can set the cell numbers before purge. I'm not using the "Cell Change version". Just the "Load version" set to 5 or so. I rarely crash. Don't set it to every cell load as this will stop numerous scripts from firing properly.
fejeena Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I also use clean up http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/24606/?
DogOnPorch Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 That looks handy for resurrecting old PCs as well. Nice.
varenne Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 And once last bit of advice, no matter what PC build you are running you have to really work at optimizing your specific build, based on hardware and software. I did it running WinXp and now Win7. Otherwise you will be subject to frequent to occasional CTDs. I always have started with Oblivion Stutter Remover, tweak the snot of that, lock FPS at 50 (anything above that is at risk of CTD) and then proceed to the other more intermediate and advanced settings like HEAP and stuff (Here you will have to test and experiment a bit to find your optimum). Graphics cards and their settings absolutely DO play a role in this too.
Lendova Posted July 19, 2016 Author Posted July 19, 2016 Looks like the biggest step by far is the "optimized" textures. (I not went crazy with 2k or 4k textures). I enabled the "purger" in OR+installed the clutter cleanup plugin as well. Thank you guys for your time and help, my gaming experience with modded Oblivion changed a lot.
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