Frequent CTD, fixed by killall command

[Rooker]

Anyone know what would lead to this sort of behavior? Two scenarios.

 

1) Sometimes I cannot enter certain interior cells. Instant CTD, even if I open the console and coc myself inside. If a cell has more than one door to enter it, every door causes the crash. If I open the console and do killall just before entering, suddenly everything is fine. Bit of a nuclear option in many areas though.

 

2) Sometimes I'm just walking around in the main exterior world and I reach a point where if I step one step further, instant CTD. I can literally pinpoint it to the centimeter. If I stand still or move away, I'm fine. killall tends to fix this as well.

 

Sometimes disabling Skyrim Immersive Creatures and doing a clean save will fix this, sometimes not, so I'm not sure if I can blame that or Bad Dogs addon for what's going on. Disabling that also means having to disable BDIC and my bashed patch or else I get missing master crashes.

 

I tried going into qasmoke once and waited for 10 days so all the cells would reset and that fixed it too.

 

This happens to every character I play, with vastly different sets of mods each time. Is this a cloak spell gone wrong? A creature spawning with a glitchy mesh? Gremlins?

 

Here's my load order. Bolded entries are almost always in my games. Others are just in this particular game and probably have nothing to do with it.

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm
SexLab.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Skyrim Adventurer's Tent.esm
Inn Girls Resources.esm
GeneralStores.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
LevelersTower.esm
CLARALUX - LightAdjuster - Vanilla Bright Increased Radius.esp
ESPv1_1.esp
Skooming Skyrim by BigBizkit.esp
ArmoredCircletsQuickFox.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
Merta Assassin Armor.esp
NorthernCardinal.esp
Remodeled Armor.esp
Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
TGLNordArmor.esp
Vidani's Bag of Holding.esp
zzLSAR.esp
Craftable and Placeable Havok-enabled Bedrolls .esp
DLC Spell Integration.esp
ExpertConcentrationSpells.esp
ImmersiveConjurationSpells.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Perks Unbound.esp
Perks Unbound - Dawnguard.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Feminine Females.esp
StormWrathLightning.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Enchanting Freedom.esp
Unlimited Charge for Daedric Artifacts.esp
SkyUI.esp
Dual Hand Combo Hotkeys.esp
AchieveThat.esp
VioLens.esp
RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp
TelekineticPush.esp
UIExtensions.esp
DisableHDREffects.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Freed Prisoners Run.esp
disable_blood_splatter_on_screen.esp
TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
Iknowtheway.esp
Dragonflesh.esp
Amulets as shrines.esp
iHUD.esp
Immersive Wenches.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
conjure_chest.esp
Roads of Solstheim.esp
AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp
AddItemMenu.esp
NoAutoAim.esp
DawnguardDawnbreaker_HolyFireEd.esp
Dawnbreaker_PeacefulExplosion.esp
no_guard_warning_after_shouts.esp
Extended Encounters.esp
HM Riften Back Door.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
ADV HB-Style.esp
Extended UI.esp
manny_Status.esp
FollowerCiceria.esp
SuperbSerana.esp
zMirai.esp
serana stfu.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
vAutosaveManager.esp
totems enabled.esp
Change Follower Outfits Redux.esp
Change Follower Outfits Redux -- Dawnguard.esp
Field Alchemy.esp
WereTools.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
SIC Stormcloak Wolves Faction Fix.esp
BDIC.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
SexLab Extra Voices.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
SexLabTools.esp
WerewolfMastery.esp
AOS.esp
Purity.esp
Insignificant Object Remover.esp
Remove Smoke and Dust.esp
Guard Torch Remover.esp
LevelersTower - SPO Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
NoLeveledItemRewards.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Draugr Disarmed Shout Removed.esp
rkrTweaks.esp
World_Map_Height_Pitch_Tweak_130.esp
dont speak to me.esp
Custom Patch.esp

 

[noplz]

Have you tried already this? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes

[myuhinny]

Instead of having all of those unofficial skyrim patch and DLC patches you can get rid of them and use USLEEP (unofficial skyrim legendary edition patch) instead as it is newer and also has all of the DLC's in it as well. Other then that I'm not sure on a cause of the crashes.

[Rooker]

Instead of having all of those unofficial skyrim patch and DLC patches you can get rid of them and use USLEEP (unofficial skyrim legendary edition patch) instead as it is newer and also has all of the DLC's in it as well. Other then that I'm not sure on a cause of the crashes.

 

Unfortunately I have one or two mods listing the old patches as masters that haven't updated and I'm not willing to give them up.

 

@loki9, no. Checking it out now. Thanks.

[PervyPotter]

 

Instead of having all of those unofficial skyrim patch and DLC patches you can get rid of them and use USLEEP (unofficial skyrim legendary edition patch) instead as it is newer and also has all of the DLC's in it as well. Other then that I'm not sure on a cause of the crashes.

 

Unfortunately I have one or two mods listing the old patches as masters that haven't updated and I'm not willing to give them up.

 

@loki9, no. Checking it out now. Thanks.

 

 

There are instructions on the Nexus USLEEP page for fixing old mods to switch from USKP masters to USLEEP, you should go take a look at the posts.

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71214/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D71214%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D3363860&pUp=1

 

[Tefajo]

Anyone know what would lead to this sort of behavior? Two scenarios.

 

1) Sometimes I cannot enter certain interior cells. Instant CTD, even if I open the console and coc myself inside. If a cell has more than one door to enter it, every door causes the crash. If I open the console and do killall just before entering, suddenly everything is fine. Bit of a nuclear option in many areas though.

 

2) Sometimes I'm just walking around in the main exterior world and I reach a point where if I step one step further, instant CTD. I can literally pinpoint it to the centimeter. If I stand still or move away, I'm fine. killall tends to fix this as well.

 

Sometimes disabling Skyrim Immersive Creatures and doing a clean save will fix this, sometimes not, so I'm not sure if I can blame that or Bad Dogs addon for what's going on. Disabling that also means having to disable BDIC and my bashed patch or else I get missing master crashes.

 

I tried going into qasmoke once and waited for 10 days so all the cells would reset and that fixed it too.

 

This happens to every character I play, with vastly different sets of mods each time. Is this a cloak spell gone wrong? A creature spawning with a glitchy mesh? Gremlins?

 

Here's my load order. Bolded entries are almost always in my games. Others are just in this particular game and probably have nothing to do with it.

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm

SexLab.esm

CreatureFramework.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Skyrim Adventurer's Tent.esm

Inn Girls Resources.esm

GeneralStores.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

LevelersTower.esm

CLARALUX - LightAdjuster - Vanilla Bright Increased Radius.esp

ESPv1_1.esp

Skooming Skyrim by BigBizkit.esp

ArmoredCircletsQuickFox.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp

Merta Assassin Armor.esp

NorthernCardinal.esp

Remodeled Armor.esp

Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp

TGLNordArmor.esp

Vidani's Bag of Holding.esp

zzLSAR.esp

Craftable and Placeable Havok-enabled Bedrolls .esp

DLC Spell Integration.esp

ExpertConcentrationSpells.esp

ImmersiveConjurationSpells.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Perks Unbound.esp

Perks Unbound - Dawnguard.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Feminine Females.esp

StormWrathLightning.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

Enchanting Freedom.esp

Unlimited Charge for Daedric Artifacts.esp

SkyUI.esp

Dual Hand Combo Hotkeys.esp

AchieveThat.esp

VioLens.esp

RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp

TelekineticPush.esp

UIExtensions.esp

DisableHDREffects.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

Freed Prisoners Run.esp

disable_blood_splatter_on_screen.esp

TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

Iknowtheway.esp

Dragonflesh.esp

Amulets as shrines.esp

iHUD.esp

Immersive Wenches.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

conjure_chest.esp

Roads of Solstheim.esp

AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp

AddItemMenu.esp

NoAutoAim.esp

DawnguardDawnbreaker_HolyFireEd.esp

Dawnbreaker_PeacefulExplosion.esp

no_guard_warning_after_shouts.esp

Extended Encounters.esp

HM Riften Back Door.esp

sandboxcylinderheight.esp

ADV HB-Style.esp

Extended UI.esp

manny_Status.esp

FollowerCiceria.esp

SuperbSerana.esp

zMirai.esp

serana stfu.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

vAutosaveManager.esp

totems enabled.esp

Change Follower Outfits Redux.esp

Change Follower Outfits Redux -- Dawnguard.esp

Field Alchemy.esp

WereTools.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

SIC Stormcloak Wolves Faction Fix.esp

BDIC.esp

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp

xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp

hydra_slavegirls.esp

SexLabDefeat.esp

SexLabMatchMaker.esp

SexLab Extra Voices.esp

MoreNastyCritters.esp

HentaiCreatures.esp

SexLabTools.esp

WerewolfMastery.esp

AOS.esp

Purity.esp

Insignificant Object Remover.esp

Remove Smoke and Dust.esp

Guard Torch Remover.esp

LevelersTower - SPO Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

NoLeveledItemRewards.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Predator Vision.esp

Draugr Disarmed Shout Removed.esp

rkrTweaks.esp

World_Map_Height_Pitch_Tweak_130.esp

dont speak to me.esp

Custom Patch.esp

 

 

In my humild opinion Its a memory allocation issue

Spawning NPC mods (and mods that applies effects on them) increase memory usage, therefore you get CTDs when too many are around (and getting rid of NPCs with kill command helps avoiding it)

If you have SKSE installed make sure its working and your SKSE.ini is properly set.

 

To understand how this works, and knowing how to test it follow this video tutorial

 

 

 

I know its long, but its worh every second of it. You could also skip stuff you already know and shorten it to 15 min

 

 

Also, very important, try not to increase ugrids for higher value than 5

[Rooker]

 

Anyone know what would lead to this sort of behavior? Two scenarios.

 

1) Sometimes I cannot enter certain interior cells. Instant CTD, even if I open the console and coc myself inside. If a cell has more than one door to enter it, every door causes the crash. If I open the console and do killall just before entering, suddenly everything is fine. Bit of a nuclear option in many areas though.

 

2) Sometimes I'm just walking around in the main exterior world and I reach a point where if I step one step further, instant CTD. I can literally pinpoint it to the centimeter. If I stand still or move away, I'm fine. killall tends to fix this as well.

 

Sometimes disabling Skyrim Immersive Creatures and doing a clean save will fix this, sometimes not, so I'm not sure if I can blame that or Bad Dogs addon for what's going on. Disabling that also means having to disable BDIC and my bashed patch or else I get missing master crashes.

 

I tried going into qasmoke once and waited for 10 days so all the cells would reset and that fixed it too.

 

This happens to every character I play, with vastly different sets of mods each time. Is this a cloak spell gone wrong? A creature spawning with a glitchy mesh? Gremlins?

 

Here's my load order. Bolded entries are almost always in my games. Others are just in this particular game and probably have nothing to do with it.

 

 

 

In my humild opinion Its a memory allocation issue

Spawning NPC mods (and mods that applies effects on them) increase memory usage, therefore you get CTDs when too many are around (and getting rid of NPCs with kill command helps avoiding it)

If you have SKSE installed make sure its working and your SKSE.ini is properly set.

 

To understand how this works, and knowing how to test it follow this video tutorial

 

 

 

I know its long, but its worh every second of it. You could also skip stuff you already know and shorten it to 15 min

 

 

Also, very important, try not to increase ugrids for higher value than 5

 

 

Yeah, I've tweaked my all my ini files to reduce load as much as possible. I have a shitty computer, which is probably why I tend to have so much trouble.

 

I've been talking with the Crash Fixes plugin author and he thinks my problem is a corrupted NIF file somewhere based on my memory dumps. I'm running his latest beta now to see if I can figure out which one. Thanks again for that link, loki9.