Virde Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 A frustrating CTD issue that exclusively happens on Solstheim. At first, I couldn't leave Raven Rock's eastern exit and could only explore the most southern part of Solstheim. But after vigorous tweaking with Ordenador, CMCO, Papyrus Data Transfer, Tes5Edit and Save Cleaners I can now safely explore all the non-snowwy areas. Each area covered in snow causes me to immediately CTD without any error related. Doesn't matter if it's on a new character, old character, with mods, without mods or anything I've tried. I've read about others having this issue, but none of them got a solution. I'm pleased that I can experience now less than half of the DLC I've never played before (Probably far far less than half since I assume Temple of Miraak is where most of the DLC takes place). Anyone have any issue what could be causing this CTD? I've eliminated the possibility of it being a mod. Since it improved specifically when Ordenador and CMCO messed with all the textures/meshes I assume it is related to that in some way. Specifically, in that the snowy areas on Solstheim is causing the issue. But that's just speculation. Papyrus logs reveal nothing of relevance and I've set my Ini settings to default and used console commands "refreshini." On top of that, if I use "coc" console command to teleport to any exterior on Northern Solstheim it causes CTD. I am using USLEEP. CTD happens with or without it. Send help pl0x.
myuhinny Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 For your ini the best way to make sure it has been reset is to delete it then start your game normally without SKSE and when the game launch screen pops up it'll make you a brand new ini. Never had a problem with the DLC so not sure what could be causing it. Could be a memory issue or something when around snow does it crash at other places that have snow in other parts of the game like in the skyrim area if it does then it might be a issue with your computer and it not being able to handle it. Are you using any type of ENB? If so try disabling it and see if that is the cause.
Virde Posted June 5, 2016 Author Posted June 5, 2016 No, only Solstheim is causing issues. I can see the snow no issues and I just tried a snow texture/mesh replacement pack with no avail, which eliminates that as the issue. Just something about loading the cells in Northern Solstheim causing a CTD. The computer is brand new, less than a month old (120 Gig SSD, 8 GDDR3 Ram, 4 GDDR5 960 GTX GPU, 6th Gen i5) and plays Skyrim on Ultra with 4k texture mods no issue. I've lowered the resolution on all textures and even tried playing on minimum settings to try and see if that would fix it, it wouldn't. I'll try getting a new ini and see if it's just a setting in there that's causing it. Although I've had it create new ini's in the past. But that was before all my tweaks. Edit: I had Skyrim create new Ini files... with a minor success. I was able to venture about twelve feet further than I was able to before on a new character before it CTD again. Progress, even if three meters at a time.
Tefajo Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 Could be a mesh, landscape or lighting mod. Can you provide us your mod list?
Virde Posted June 5, 2016 Author Posted June 5, 2016 Sure, although I don't think this is going to display all the texture mods that simply alter textures. All of the Solstheim based mods I installed after having issues in hopes they would fix it. No real improvement was gained from any of them outside of making the areas that do work, look nicer. Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1hdtHighHeel.esm=1HmmWhatToWear.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1notice board.esp=1KameleonArmor.esm=1TERAArmors.esm=1ApachiiHairMales.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1SummerSolstheim.esp=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=0HighResTexturePack02.esp=0HighResTexturePack03.esp=0Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=0improvedskillbooks.esp=1enhanced soundtrack 01.esp=1enhanced soundtrack 02.esp=1light_spell_changes_5min.esp=1mintylightningmod.esp=1SimplyKnock.esp=1improvedquestbooks.esp=1auto unequip arrows.esp=1FNIS.esp=1Animations.esp=1Beards.esp=1Brows.esp=1KS Hairdo's.esp=1TERAArmors.esp=1LovelyHairstylesCE.esp=1MashupUNP.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1Size does matter.esp=1dwhg.esp=1dwbes.esp=1EC Clothes.esp=1EliteRogueArmour.esp=1HentaiGaleArmor.esp=1HentaiNightmareArmor.esp=1ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1zzArmormashups.esp=1UNP Boots 02.esp=1Dark Fantasy Overhaul.esp=1Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1guard dialogue overhaul.esp=1sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1dwbp.esp=1FreckleMania.esp=13DNPC.esp=1Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1hold guard.esp=1NPC_Overhaul_V_2_.esp=1truepeopleofskyrim.esp=1amazingfollowertweaks.esp=1followerwander2.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Tera Armor Level List.esp=1DawnofWindhelm.esp=1Convenient Bridges.esp=1Unique Places.esp=1JK's Falkreath.esp=1fairy.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1BFT Ships and Carriages.esp=1CornerofTheSkyrim.esp=1HoldGuardsKeepArmor.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp=1SkyrimSewers.esp=1WayshrinesIFT.esp=1the asteria - dwemer airship.esp=1The Honored Dead.esp=1Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp=1CFTO.esp=1fallentreebridges.esp=1JKs Markarth.esp=1wildhorses.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1WinterholdDecay.esp=1drachenhaus village.esp=1Marco's Integrated Leveled Lists.esp=1general npc fixes.esp=1Skyrim Sizes.esp=1killthemgenerals.esp=1thewatchtowers.esp=1Solstheim Landscape Overhaul.esp=1Immersive Travel.esp=1GuardedBorders.esp=1Merchants have Linen updated.esp=1markrecall.esp=1HoldBorderBanners.esp=1IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp=1portal2mod.esp=1giant_giants_and_mammoths.esp=1Osare Culort Outfit.esp=1calyps-investigator.esp=1Dead Body Collision.esp=1Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1pf_0weightquestitems.esp=1Equipping Overhaul.esp=1werewolvesofskyrim.esp=1fckagrenacsinstantfortress.esp=1Blades Hakama.esp=1Celes Nightingale Armor.esp=1Svs Daughter of War.esp=1GDZZJJDH.esp=1Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp=1impgen.esp=1Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp=1KameleonArmor.esp=1MidnightBreed.esp=1TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp=1R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp=1TNB_CraftableFoldedCloth.esp=1WestWindAssault.esp=1XAC.esp=1AsharaDimonizedDress.esp=1Invisible Aetherial Crown.esp=1LinenCraft.esp=1LycHairstyler.esp=1MaddBag.esp=1BorderSense.esp=1charliecombatmoddc.esp=1Evil MasterMind Armor.esp=1LustmordVampireArmor.esp=1Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1DwarvenSniper.esp=1dwbb.esp=1dwamg.esp=1CiriOutfit.esp=1Travel Attire.esp=1TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.esp=1TKDodge.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1SkyUI.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=1zabswitchhat.esp=1SolstheimSkies.esp=1Vivid Weathers.esp=1Vivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1ZZZ_Stenvar_Replacer_THAIDEN.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1MaskofBlades.esp=1wgwarpaint2p0.esp=1DarkReplacer.esp=1Worlds Dawn.esp=1AFT_iNPCFix.esp=1Unique Grasses.esp=1Purewaters.esp=1aod - fullplate.esp=1AshRocks.esp=1BVFE_Serana.esp=1BTRH_Waifu.esp=1Uthgerd_v3_Young_MackomHairAlt_noWarpaint.esp=1[K's_The Companions Followers for Male].esp=1zzz_Jenassa_MAKEOVER_by83Willow.esp=1Brothers.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1ASLAL - City Guard Extension Example.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=0MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp=1 I have used LOOT to order all but the most recent ten or twelve of them. All post-crashing issue. I have also uninstalled and played without them only for the issue to persist. I've checked file integrity to reinstall any missing Beth files, I've re-cleaned dirty edits with Tes5Edit and tried everything I could think of. All parts of the game are fine besides just that one section. Also, I could't find the spoiler tag, sorry for massive list. >__>
RW311 Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 Try turning everything down or off in your gpu driver control panel, not sure what it's called for nvidia but things like morphological filtering and texture smoothing should be off for sure to try and find the cause of a crash related to mesh or textures and fx. If this does not make any difference then the problem is either a driver issue with your gpu or what tefajo said a lighting or mesh\texture overhaul mod.
JRCosta Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 You may want to install this with this so you can have a better clue on what is causing the CTD. Look here too.
Tefajo Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 Sure, although I don't think this is going to display all the texture mods that simply alter textures. All of the Solstheim based mods I installed after having issues in hopes they would fix it. No real improvement was gained from any of them outside of making the areas that do work, look nicer. Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1 hdtHighHeel.esm=1 HmmWhatToWear.esm=1 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1 notice board.esp=1 KameleonArmor.esm=1 TERAArmors.esm=1 ApachiiHairMales.esm=1 ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1 ApachiiHair.esm=1 SummerSolstheim.esp=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=0 HighResTexturePack02.esp=0 HighResTexturePack03.esp=0 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=0 improvedskillbooks.esp=1 enhanced soundtrack 01.esp=1 enhanced soundtrack 02.esp=1 light_spell_changes_5min.esp=1 mintylightningmod.esp=1 SimplyKnock.esp=1 improvedquestbooks.esp=1 auto unequip arrows.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 Animations.esp=1 Beards.esp=1 Brows.esp=1 KS Hairdo's.esp=1 TERAArmors.esp=1 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp=1 MashupUNP.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 Size does matter.esp=1 dwhg.esp=1 dwbes.esp=1 EC Clothes.esp=1 EliteRogueArmour.esp=1 HentaiGaleArmor.esp=1 HentaiNightmareArmor.esp=1 ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1 zzArmormashups.esp=1 UNP Boots 02.esp=1 Dark Fantasy Overhaul.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1 guard dialogue overhaul.esp=1 sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1 TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1 dwbp.esp=1 FreckleMania.esp=1 3DNPC.esp=1 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1 hold guard.esp=1 NPC_Overhaul_V_2_.esp=1 truepeopleofskyrim.esp=1 amazingfollowertweaks.esp=1 followerwander2.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1 Tera Armor Level List.esp=1 DawnofWindhelm.esp=1 Convenient Bridges.esp=1 Unique Places.esp=1 JK's Falkreath.esp=1 fairy.esp=1 Point The Way.esp=1 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp=1 CornerofTheSkyrim.esp=1 HoldGuardsKeepArmor.esp=1 Immersive Weapons.esp=1 ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp=1 SkyrimSewers.esp=1 WayshrinesIFT.esp=1 the asteria - dwemer airship.esp=1 The Honored Dead.esp=1 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp=1 CFTO.esp=1 fallentreebridges.esp=1 JKs Markarth.esp=1 wildhorses.esp=1 Immersive Patrols II.esp=1 WinterholdDecay.esp=1 drachenhaus village.esp=1 Marco's Integrated Leveled Lists.esp=1 general npc fixes.esp=1 Skyrim Sizes.esp=1 killthemgenerals.esp=1 thewatchtowers.esp=1 Solstheim Landscape Overhaul.esp=1 Immersive Travel.esp=1 GuardedBorders.esp=1 Merchants have Linen updated.esp=1 markrecall.esp=1 HoldBorderBanners.esp=1 IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp=1 portal2mod.esp=1 giant_giants_and_mammoths.esp=1 Osare Culort Outfit.esp=1 calyps-investigator.esp=1 Dead Body Collision.esp=1 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1 pf_0weightquestitems.esp=1 Equipping Overhaul.esp=1 werewolvesofskyrim.esp=1 fckagrenacsinstantfortress.esp=1 Blades Hakama.esp=1 Celes Nightingale Armor.esp=1 Svs Daughter of War.esp=1 GDZZJJDH.esp=1 Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp=1 impgen.esp=1 Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp=1 KameleonArmor.esp=1 MidnightBreed.esp=1 TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp=1 R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp=1 TNB_CraftableFoldedCloth.esp=1 WestWindAssault.esp=1 XAC.esp=1 AsharaDimonizedDress.esp=1 Invisible Aetherial Crown.esp=1 LinenCraft.esp=1 LycHairstyler.esp=1 MaddBag.esp=1 BorderSense.esp=1 charliecombatmoddc.esp=1 Evil MasterMind Armor.esp=1 LustmordVampireArmor.esp=1 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1 DwarvenSniper.esp=1 dwbb.esp=1 dwamg.esp=1 CiriOutfit.esp=1 Travel Attire.esp=1 TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.esp=1 TKDodge.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 1nivWICCloaks.esp=1 zabswitchhat.esp=1 SolstheimSkies.esp=1 Vivid Weathers.esp=1 Vivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.esp=1 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1 ZZZ_Stenvar_Replacer_THAIDEN.esp=1 FNISspells.esp=1 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1 MaskofBlades.esp=1 wgwarpaint2p0.esp=1 DarkReplacer.esp=1 Worlds Dawn.esp=1 AFT_iNPCFix.esp=1 Unique Grasses.esp=1 Purewaters.esp=1 aod - fullplate.esp=1 AshRocks.esp=1 BVFE_Serana.esp=1 BTRH_Waifu.esp=1 Uthgerd_v3_Young_MackomHairAlt_noWarpaint.esp=1 [K's_The Companions Followers for Male].esp=1 zzz_Jenassa_MAKEOVER_by83Willow.esp=1 Brothers.esp=1 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 ASLAL - City Guard Extension Example.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=0 MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp=1 I have used LOOT to order all but the most recent ten or twelve of them. All post-crashing issue. I have also uninstalled and played without them only for the issue to persist. I've checked file integrity to reinstall any missing Beth files, I've re-cleaned dirty edits with Tes5Edit and tried everything I could think of. All parts of the game are fine besides just that one section. Also, I could't find the spoiler tag, sorry for massive list. >__> Ok, took a very fast glance at your load order and i think i know were the problem might be: I do not think that "Summersolstheim" + "solsttheim Skies" (both same mod) are compatible with "Solstheim landscape overhaul" , since they are both landscape changes of the same region Also, remember that high res patches should go inmediately after all your esm (so in case you plan to keep summersoltheim it uses the mod textures and not the vanilla / dlc ones)
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