Yuuen Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 b7d.jpg Dead-Horse.jpg Can we just stop this uselessness, please? The MO vs NMM "debate" has gone on forever (try doing a search here and your can find enough threads to make a quilt and enough posts to fence in Wyoming) and there will never be a good answer because it ALWAYS comes down to a personal preference. Look, the OP clearly doesn't want to switch to MO, and no amount discussion is going to change that. Just look at the responses. Yuuen - the easiest answer is this: If you like NMM, then use it. Period. Who gives a flying fuck what other people like or dislike about NMM or MO? If you like NMM, keep using it. If you are curious about MO, then download it and try it. Don't rely on other people's impressions, just try it for yourself. I stuck with NMM for years, using it for Oblivion, FO3, FONV, and Skyrim with very little issues even thought everybody said it sucked and said I should use anything else but NMM. I stuck with it because it worked. And still does. The only reason I changed to MO is when I rebuilt my computer and reinstalled my games, I thought it was a good time to give it a try. If it sucked, I could go back. It didn't suck and I liked it, so I stuck with it. Doesn't mean NMM sucks, it just means that I PREFERRED it. So again, stick with NMM if you like it and PLEASE can we let this useless thread die... Calm down Mr.Grumpy, geez. I didn't ask for impressions, I was asking for a factual overview of the features. There's no dead horse being beaten, so you can go crawl back to your cave. Next time try getting up on the right side of the bed and read the actual context of the post first.
Yuuen Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 b7d.jpg Dead-Horse.jpg Can we just stop this uselessness, please? The MO vs NMM "debate" has gone on forever (try doing a search here and your can find enough threads to make a quilt and enough posts to fence in Wyoming) and there will never be a good answer because it ALWAYS comes down to a personal preference. Look, the OP clearly doesn't want to switch to MO, and no amount discussion is going to change that. Just look at the responses. Yuuen - the easiest answer is this: If you like NMM, then use it. Period. Who gives a flying fuck what other people like or dislike about NMM or MO? If you like NMM, keep using it. If you are curious about MO, then download it and try it. Don't rely on other people's impressions, just try it for yourself. I stuck with NMM for years, using it for Oblivion, FO3, FONV, and Skyrim with very little issues even thought everybody said it sucked and said I should use anything else but NMM. I stuck with it because it worked. And still does. The only reason I changed to MO is when I rebuilt my computer and reinstalled my games, I thought it was a good time to give it a try. If it sucked, I could go back. It didn't suck and I liked it, so I stuck with it. Doesn't mean NMM sucks, it just means that I PREFERRED it. So again, stick with NMM if you like it and PLEASE can we let this useless thread die... Calm down Mr.Grumpy, geez. I didn't ask for impressions, I was asking for a factual overview of the features. There's no dead horse being beaten, so you can go crawl back to your cave. Next time try getting up on the right side of the bed and read the actual context of the post first. No no, this was not me provoking a reply, this was me refunding your unneeded 2 cents. Shoo Shoo, now. Go on.
Guest Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 b7d.jpg Dead-Horse.jpg Can we just stop this uselessness, please? The MO vs NMM "debate" has gone on forever (try doing a search here and your can find enough threads to make a quilt and enough posts to fence in Wyoming) and there will never be a good answer because it ALWAYS comes down to a personal preference. Look, the OP clearly doesn't want to switch to MO, and no amount discussion is going to change that. Just look at the responses. Yuuen - the easiest answer is this: If you like NMM, then use it. Period. Who gives a flying fuck what other people like or dislike about NMM or MO? If you like NMM, keep using it. If you are curious about MO, then download it and try it. Don't rely on other people's impressions, just try it for yourself. I stuck with NMM for years, using it for Oblivion, FO3, FONV, and Skyrim with very little issues even thought everybody said it sucked and said I should use anything else but NMM. I stuck with it because it worked. And still does. The only reason I changed to MO is when I rebuilt my computer and reinstalled my games, I thought it was a good time to give it a try. If it sucked, I could go back. It didn't suck and I liked it, so I stuck with it. Doesn't mean NMM sucks, it just means that I PREFERRED it. So again, stick with NMM if you like it and PLEASE can we let this useless thread die... Calm down Mr.Grumpy, geez. I didn't ask for impressions, I was asking for a factual overview of the features. There's no dead horse being beaten, so you can go crawl back to your cave. Next time try getting up on the right side of the bed and read the actual context of the post first. My friend, sreysmanll didn't attacked you. He was just stressing out the meaningless of debate MO vs NMM. I red in his words encouragement to you to stick with manager you like, nothing else. There wasn't any hostility toward you. Cheers.
Yuuen Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 b7d.jpg Dead-Horse.jpg Can we just stop this uselessness, please? The MO vs NMM "debate" has gone on forever (try doing a search here and your can find enough threads to make a quilt and enough posts to fence in Wyoming) and there will never be a good answer because it ALWAYS comes down to a personal preference. Look, the OP clearly doesn't want to switch to MO, and no amount discussion is going to change that. Just look at the responses. Yuuen - the easiest answer is this: If you like NMM, then use it. Period. Who gives a flying fuck what other people like or dislike about NMM or MO? If you like NMM, keep using it. If you are curious about MO, then download it and try it. Don't rely on other people's impressions, just try it for yourself. I stuck with NMM for years, using it for Oblivion, FO3, FONV, and Skyrim with very little issues even thought everybody said it sucked and said I should use anything else but NMM. I stuck with it because it worked. And still does. The only reason I changed to MO is when I rebuilt my computer and reinstalled my games, I thought it was a good time to give it a try. If it sucked, I could go back. It didn't suck and I liked it, so I stuck with it. Doesn't mean NMM sucks, it just means that I PREFERRED it. So again, stick with NMM if you like it and PLEASE can we let this useless thread die... Calm down Mr.Grumpy, geez. I didn't ask for impressions, I was asking for a factual overview of the features. There's no dead horse being beaten, so you can go crawl back to your cave. Next time try getting up on the right side of the bed and read the actual context of the post first. My friend, sreysmanll didn't attacked you. He was just stressing out the meaningless of debate MO vs NMM. I red in his words encouragement to you to stick with manager you like, nothing else. There wasn't any hostility toward you. Cheers. When people start swearing at me in a response, my mind just defaults to "Don't take this person seriously and dismiss them." After re-reading it, the comment still falls into the whole "What I didn't ask for" category that I pretty much stated in the first post.
Guest Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 b7d.jpg Dead-Horse.jpg Can we just stop this uselessness, please? The MO vs NMM "debate" has gone on forever (try doing a search here and your can find enough threads to make a quilt and enough posts to fence in Wyoming) and there will never be a good answer because it ALWAYS comes down to a personal preference. Look, the OP clearly doesn't want to switch to MO, and no amount discussion is going to change that. Just look at the responses. Yuuen - the easiest answer is this: If you like NMM, then use it. Period. Who gives a flying fuck what other people like or dislike about NMM or MO? If you like NMM, keep using it. If you are curious about MO, then download it and try it. Don't rely on other people's impressions, just try it for yourself. I stuck with NMM for years, using it for Oblivion, FO3, FONV, and Skyrim with very little issues even thought everybody said it sucked and said I should use anything else but NMM. I stuck with it because it worked. And still does. The only reason I changed to MO is when I rebuilt my computer and reinstalled my games, I thought it was a good time to give it a try. If it sucked, I could go back. It didn't suck and I liked it, so I stuck with it. Doesn't mean NMM sucks, it just means that I PREFERRED it. So again, stick with NMM if you like it and PLEASE can we let this useless thread die... Calm down Mr.Grumpy, geez. I didn't ask for impressions, I was asking for a factual overview of the features. There's no dead horse being beaten, so you can go crawl back to your cave. Next time try getting up on the right side of the bed and read the actual context of the post first. My friend, sreysmanll didn't attacked you. He was just stressing out the meaningless of debate MO vs NMM. I red in his words encouragement to you to stick with manager you like, nothing else. There wasn't any hostility toward you. Cheers. When people start swearing at me in a response, my mind just defaults to "Don't take this person seriously and dismiss them." red his post several times and I haven't seen any swearing at you. He was just direct in expressing his view. Anyhow.... if you feel attacked or offended by his words, why don't you PM him and clarify it. That's what I would do and always do. Sometimes we just interpenetrate someones words. Anyhow, won't bother you any more. You a smart person and I'm sure you know what is best for you. I'm not pressing on you anything. I have no right to do it.
Yuuen Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 b7d.jpg Dead-Horse.jpg Can we just stop this uselessness, please? The MO vs NMM "debate" has gone on forever (try doing a search here and your can find enough threads to make a quilt and enough posts to fence in Wyoming) and there will never be a good answer because it ALWAYS comes down to a personal preference. Look, the OP clearly doesn't want to switch to MO, and no amount discussion is going to change that. Just look at the responses. Yuuen - the easiest answer is this: If you like NMM, then use it. Period. Who gives a flying fuck what other people like or dislike about NMM or MO? If you like NMM, keep using it. If you are curious about MO, then download it and try it. Don't rely on other people's impressions, just try it for yourself. I stuck with NMM for years, using it for Oblivion, FO3, FONV, and Skyrim with very little issues even thought everybody said it sucked and said I should use anything else but NMM. I stuck with it because it worked. And still does. The only reason I changed to MO is when I rebuilt my computer and reinstalled my games, I thought it was a good time to give it a try. If it sucked, I could go back. It didn't suck and I liked it, so I stuck with it. Doesn't mean NMM sucks, it just means that I PREFERRED it. So again, stick with NMM if you like it and PLEASE can we let this useless thread die... Calm down Mr.Grumpy, geez. I didn't ask for impressions, I was asking for a factual overview of the features. There's no dead horse being beaten, so you can go crawl back to your cave. Next time try getting up on the right side of the bed and read the actual context of the post first. My friend, sreysmanll didn't attacked you. He was just stressing out the meaningless of debate MO vs NMM. I red in his words encouragement to you to stick with manager you like, nothing else. There wasn't any hostility toward you. Cheers. When people start swearing at me in a response, my mind just defaults to "Don't take this person seriously and dismiss them." red his post several times and I haven't seen any swearing at you. He was just direct in expressing his view. Anyhow.... if you feel attacked or offended by his words, why don't you PM him and clarify it. That's what I would do and always do. Sometimes we just interpenetrate someones words. Anyhow, won't bother you any more. You a smart person and I'm sure you know what is best for you. I'm not pressing on you anything. I have no right to do it. Not attacked or offended, just didn't see it as necessary. but okie dokie, have a nice day/night/morning/afternoon.
srayesmanll Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 b7d.jpg Dead-Horse.jpg Can we just stop this uselessness, please? The MO vs NMM "debate" has gone on forever (try doing a search here and your can find enough threads to make a quilt and enough posts to fence in Wyoming) and there will never be a good answer because it ALWAYS comes down to a personal preference. Look, the OP clearly doesn't want to switch to MO, and no amount discussion is going to change that. Just look at the responses. Yuuen - the easiest answer is this: If you like NMM, then use it. Period. Who gives a flying fuck what other people like or dislike about NMM or MO? If you like NMM, keep using it. If you are curious about MO, then download it and try it. Don't rely on other people's impressions, just try it for yourself. I stuck with NMM for years, using it for Oblivion, FO3, FONV, and Skyrim with very little issues even thought everybody said it sucked and said I should use anything else but NMM. I stuck with it because it worked. And still does. The only reason I changed to MO is when I rebuilt my computer and reinstalled my games, I thought it was a good time to give it a try. If it sucked, I could go back. It didn't suck and I liked it, so I stuck with it. Doesn't mean NMM sucks, it just means that I PREFERRED it. So again, stick with NMM if you like it and PLEASE can we let this useless thread die... Calm down Mr.Grumpy, geez. I didn't ask for impressions, I was asking for a factual overview of the features. There's no dead horse being beaten, so you can go crawl back to your cave. Next time try getting up on the right side of the bed and read the actual context of the post first. By making this kind of thread, you ARE asking for impressions, because that is all anyone has about MO or NMM - their personal preferences and impressions. You aren't looking for facts, you are looking to continue a useless debate and a flame war. Same as anyone who starts the MO vs NMM "debate" here on LL. If you want facts, read the official STEP guide for Mod Organizer. This will give you more facts about MO than the conjecture and personal preferences that you will get in this kind of thread. I mean you have already made it abundantly clear that you are not switching, so what is the point of this thread? So if all you're looking for is "... a factual overview of the features": Features: Support for Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Oblivion, and Skyrim. Mod isolation (game directory is kept clean). Profiles (ability to switch between different mod configurations seamlessly). Load order management. File conflict resolution is as simple as dragging and dropping. BSA unpacking via the BSA Extractor plugin. Nexus integration for easy downloading and updating of mods. GUI support for manual installation. Compatibility with BAIN and FOMOD installers. Savegame viewer with ability to recognize what mods were used with each saved game. Archive invalidation. Customizable mod categories. Extensive help and tutorial system. Automated updates system for Mod Organizer. That is it in a nutshell. If you want more "factual" info, click the link to the STEP guide.
Yuuen Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 b7d.jpg Dead-Horse.jpg Can we just stop this uselessness, please? The MO vs NMM "debate" has gone on forever (try doing a search here and your can find enough threads to make a quilt and enough posts to fence in Wyoming) and there will never be a good answer because it ALWAYS comes down to a personal preference. Look, the OP clearly doesn't want to switch to MO, and no amount discussion is going to change that. Just look at the responses. Yuuen - the easiest answer is this: If you like NMM, then use it. Period. Who gives a flying fuck what other people like or dislike about NMM or MO? If you like NMM, keep using it. If you are curious about MO, then download it and try it. Don't rely on other people's impressions, just try it for yourself. I stuck with NMM for years, using it for Oblivion, FO3, FONV, and Skyrim with very little issues even thought everybody said it sucked and said I should use anything else but NMM. I stuck with it because it worked. And still does. The only reason I changed to MO is when I rebuilt my computer and reinstalled my games, I thought it was a good time to give it a try. If it sucked, I could go back. It didn't suck and I liked it, so I stuck with it. Doesn't mean NMM sucks, it just means that I PREFERRED it. So again, stick with NMM if you like it and PLEASE can we let this useless thread die... Calm down Mr.Grumpy, geez. I didn't ask for impressions, I was asking for a factual overview of the features. There's no dead horse being beaten, so you can go crawl back to your cave. Next time try getting up on the right side of the bed and read the actual context of the post first. By making this kind of thread, you ARE asking for impressions, because that is all anyone has about MO or NMM - their personal preferences and impressions. You aren't looking for facts, you are looking to continue a useless debate and a flame war. Same as anyone who starts the MO vs NMM "debate" here on LL. If you want facts, read the official STEP guide for Mod Organizer. This will give you more facts about MO than the conjecture and personal preferences that you will get in this kind of thread. I mean you have already made it abundantly clear that you are not switching, so what is the point of this thread? So if all you're looking for is "... a factual overview of the features": Features: Support for Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Oblivion, and Skyrim. Mod isolation (game directory is kept clean). Profiles (ability to switch between different mod configurations seamlessly). Load order management. File conflict resolution is as simple as dragging and dropping. BSA unpacking via the BSA Extractor plugin. Nexus integration for easy downloading and updating of mods. GUI support for manual installation. Compatibility with BAIN and FOMOD installers. Savegame viewer with ability to recognize what mods were used with each saved game. Archive invalidation. Customizable mod categories. Extensive help and tutorial system. Automated updates system for Mod Organizer. That is it in a nutshell. If you want more "factual" info, click the link to the STEP guide. And all you're doing is looking for an excuse to preach? Useless debate and flame war? I literally just asked, "What does this do, that this doesn't" that's not a "Tell me to use this because you find it better", and honestly your posts are one of the few I got which were solely opinion. The STEP guild is outdated and bloaty, never bothered with it before, not doing so now. Seriously, go away. You are neither adding to this post, or contributing anything helpful. If anyone is trying to start a "flame war" it's you. Things have been nice and calm before you showed up.
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