RaceMenu/NetImmerse Override Causing Skeleton Issues

[johnnywatwat]

So..., weird issue. It looks like RaceMenu/NetImmerse Override is causing an issue with the skeletons.

 

This problem started after a scene between Toccata and a Hargraven. Toccata got the problem, and then I noticed Lydia has it too.

 

I soldiered on a little, and now Toccata does not have the issue anymore. Just Lydia. See the pics.

 

I'm thinking it's most likely NetImmerse Override specific. I removed RaceMenu at one point, and installed just NIOverride on it's own. Same issue.

 

I removed both, and the issue went away. However, it introduced a new issue where I get CTDs if I try to save (i.e., if I try to fast travel, enter a building, manual save, whatever, as long as a save is generated). Putting RaceMenu back on solved the CTD issue. So it looks like I'm SOL and stuck with RaceMenu. Fine.

 

But is there a way to reset NetImmerse Override?

[Veladarius]

Are you using the newer skeletons that use Net Immerse Override? The latest versions use it.

[johnnywatwat]

Are you using the newer skeletons that use Net Immerse Override? The latest versions use it.

 

I'm using v3.76 of XPMS Extended.

 

Should I roll back to the older versions?

[Guest]

If you installed your skeleton first and Racemenu afterwards and overwrote XMPS skeleton you'd have problem. Uninstall both mods and then install Racemenu first and Skeleton second. Overwrite when asked.

[Veladarius]

I know that the latest skeleton has addon info for Race Menu and NIO, did you install NIO separately? If so it may be a version conflict. I use v3.47 of the skeleton as I had issues with FNIS for some reason with newer versions.

[johnnywatwat]

If you installed your skeleton first and Racemenu afterwards and overwrote XMPS skeleton you'd have problem. Uninstall both mods and then install Racemenu first and Skeleton second. Overwrite when asked.

 

I'm using Mod Organizer.

 

Currently, XPMSE sits nearly at the very bottom (it overwrites everything else). RaceMenu is the one getting overwritten.

I know that the latest skeleton has addon info for Race Menu and NIO, did you install NIO separately? If so it may be a version conflict. I use v3.47 of the skeleton as I had issues with FNIS for some reason with newer versions.

 

I did both for testing.

 

But the current setup is Racemenu+NIO in one package. So no, NIO is not separate.

 

I'll try rolling back to 3.47.

[Guest]

Yea, Veladarious has right when saying that if you have installed Nio separately, that will cause the problem. I also have latest Skeleton, XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended - XPMSE 3.76, FNIS 6.2 and Race menu 3.4.5 and they work fine for me in my game. Latest Skeleton mod has Nio integrated in the mod. You just need to watch that nothing overwrites your skeleton mod.

I see, well can't help you with MO. I'm using NMM and don't have a problem with it.

[johnnywatwat]

Yea, Veladarious has right when saying that if you have installed Nio separately, that will cause the problem. I also have latest Skeleton, XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended - XPMSE 3.76, FNIS 6.2 and Race menu 3.4.5 and they work fine for me in my game. Latest Skeleton mod has Nio integrated in the mod. You just need to watch that nothing overwrites your skeleton mod.

I see, well can't help you with MO. I'm using NMM and don't have a problem with it.

 

Basically, in MO, there is no overwriting. It just generates a virtual file system based on what order your mods are in.

 

In NMM terms, nothing is overwriting XPMSE right now.

 

In any case, I rolled back to 3.47, and it didn't change anything.

[Guest]

Well, in that case you have Nio incompatibility issue with your body type. I'm using dimon's UNP and have no issue.

[ousnius]

Remove the standalone NiOverride, install the latest RaceMenu, latest XPMSE (with its RaceMenu plugin) and latest FNIS.

Run FNIS.

 

Now enter the RaceMenu in-game and check if there's any skeleton sliders being used in the "Body Shape" or similar tabs.

If yes, there's your problem.

 

If not, then your savegame (the .skse co-save that comes with each savegame) has some weird buggy data for the arm in it.

You could remove that .skse file so it gets generated again, but that will/can cause a lot of other bugs and data loss with a few mods that make use of SKSE. You could make a backup of it and remove it temporarily, and see if something changes.

[johnnywatwat]

Remove the standalone NiOverride, install the latest RaceMenu, latest XPMSE (with its RaceMenu plugin) and latest FNIS.

Run FNIS.

 

Now enter the RaceMenu in-game and check if there's any skeleton sliders being used in the "Body Shape" or similar tabs.

If yes, there's your problem.

 

If not, then your savegame (the .skse co-save that comes with each savegame) has some weird buggy data for the arm in it.

You could remove that .skse file so it gets generated again, but that will/can cause a lot of other bugs and data loss with a few mods that make use of SKSE. You could make a backup of it and remove it temporarily, and see if something changes.

 

My character does not have this issue. Is there a way to use RaceMenu to edit NPCs? I've been trying to figure that part out, with no success.

[Arhon]

Racemenu should include NiO by default if so removing the stand-alone NiO is the correct move.

[ousnius]

If you use EFF and open the tattoo menu, you can access some tabs of RM.

[Alexandersmith7]

lol same issue here I removed netloveride and no problems it does screw up with alot of sexlab animations and slal as well as sos conflicts and im using xp 49.4 latest after all these years net just needs to creat his own patch to remove his bug if I don't get the save load then I get ctd if not that infanit loading screen and sometimes the stupid t pose that net's program creats 0master file in fnis which leads me to removing the game completely and reinstalling everything without it on bright stide everything works perfectly and no I don't use anything having with unp hate that body don't know why people like flat stick women rofl.