Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home

[Psalam]

7 minutes ago, Reverendmax said:

hey you guys i keep getting hung up on the second quest where it just asks me to continuously turn in slaves to the camps whenever i need money. i dont know what i need to do next to trigger any kind of progression with the quests i was wondering if you guys had any insights. 

After you've turned in your third slave you get that notice. Next, just hang around one of the slave camps. You will, in a relatively short time, be attacked by a crazy woman who you will enslave and then talk to. 

 

I usually just mine some ore while I'm waiting for her.

[Reverendmax]

Aw no way! Thanks

 

Awsome that worked.

 

I had it trigger for me once in solitude. That npc seems to run arround like a courrier.

 

But i just wasnt sure if there was anything extra i needed to do anyways. Thanks for the help

[Psalam]

1 hour ago, Reverendmax said:

Aw no way! Thanks

 

Awsome that worked.

 

I had it trigger for me once in solitude. That npc seems to run arround like a courrier.

 

But i just wasnt sure if there was anything extra i needed to do anyways. Thanks for the help

No, the quest goes from there. Rescue the sister. Return to Dawnstar. Go back to the mines to get the quest. Go to Solitude and enslave the girl and deliver her. Go to Restless Hunter to collect your pay.

[JayRoz]

Hello. Just a recommendation/suggestion. Please mute the guards inside the Restless Hunter building. Like omg the constant "yes" "yes" "yes" "yes" "yes" "yes" "need something?" remarks are driving me nuts. 
And can we have cheats please? Takes way too long to train a slave. Pretty please. 

[Psalam]

1 hour ago, JayRoz said:

Hello. Just a recommendation/suggestion. Please mute the guards inside the Restless Hunter building. Like omg the constant "yes" "yes" "yes" "yes" "yes" "yes" "need something?" remarks are driving me nuts. 
And can we have cheats please? Takes way too long to train a slave. Pretty please. 

Psalam's guide to training a slave (again):

1) take a captured slave whose submission is such that they will not run away (this is set in the PAHE McMenu by you)

2) tell them they are going to fight for you

3) place them in a safe, preferably indoor location (I like Dragonsreach - see below for why)

4) tie them up using the HSH dialogue (I'm going to tie you up...let's get the chains out...etc.)

5) whenever you pass by them take a moment to have sex with them (this is why Dragonsreach is handy)

 

Do that and you slave should be maxed out on Submission, Combat, Pose and Sex within 30 game days.

[JayRoz]

33 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Psalam's guide to training a slave (again):

1) take a captured slave whose submission is such that they will not run away (this is set in the PAHE McMenu by you)

2) tell them they are going to fight for you

3) place them in a safe, preferably indoor location (I like Dragonsreach - see below for why)

4) tie them up using the HSH dialogue (I'm going to tie you up...let's get the chains out...etc.)

5) whenever you pass by them take a moment to have sex with them (this is why Dragonsreach is handy)

 

Do that and you slave should be maxed out on Submission, Combat, Pose and Sex within 30 game days.

Thanks for this but I'm already beating the stuffing out of my poor slaves each chance I get to level fear, anger and respect and then I throw in some punishments to raise sex and submission. Even then it takes immensely long. 1 of my slaves has 100 everything and he takes as long as me to level a slave. But okay I will just learn to be patient lol. 

[CliftonJD]

5 hours ago, JayRoz said:

Thanks for this but I'm already beating the stuffing out of my poor slaves each chance I get to level fear, anger and respect and then I throw in some punishments to raise sex and submission. Even then it takes immensely long. 1 of my slaves has 100 everything and he takes as long as me to level a slave. But okay I will just learn to be patient lol. 

i'm thinking more along the lines of suggesting:

• an alternate start add-on that lets you start with a couple random slaves or 1 highly trained in stat of your choice at the statue
• something similar to the familiar faces mod that could share slaves between saves

[JayRoz]

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

i'm thinking more along the lines of suggesting:

• an alternate start add-on that lets you start with a couple random slaves or 1 highly trained in stat of your choice at the statue
• something similar to the familiar faces mod that could share slaves between saves

Cool idea. From what I've seen in the comments though, over how finicky slave id's are when it comes to FF vs the original, that sounds like it would be very hard to make. 
Not a scripter though so no idea.
Using your idea I would go for alternate starts where you can let's say be an expert in raising 1 skill a little faster instead. For instance then you could be named i.e. a Sexpert that can only level sex faster or, RageMaster, TerrorMeister...whatever lol. 

[Minas]

Hi guys,

 

Let me preface this with right after i am done posting here i am going to make a post in the Devious Devices forum. 

My issue is that DD is working fine on the PC and followers but as soon as i try it on a PAHE or HSH slave it is not showing. The slave have the items equiped but the items are not vissible.
I assumed at the start that somehow i messed up the batch build  so after rebuilding and rebuilding on fresh saves i started playing with the load order. Alas with no avail.

My last idea is that somehow PAHE and HSH slaves dont register as NPCs (not in a way at least that DD will recognise) if thats the case is there any fix that i could do? 

I would be even happy with trying to learn to code it in order to fix that. 

I am attaching my load order below just in case my damn ass missed something major!

loadorder.txt

[CliftonJD]

56 minutes ago, Minas said:

Hi guys,

 

Let me preface this with right after i am done posting here i am going to make a post in the Devious Devices forum. 

My issue is that DD is working fine on the PC and followers but as soon as i try it on a PAHE or HSH slave it is not showing. The slave have the items equiped but the items are not vissible.
I assumed at the start that somehow i messed up the batch build  so after rebuilding and rebuilding on fresh saves i started playing with the load order. Alas with no avail.

My last idea is that somehow PAHE and HSH slaves dont register as NPCs (not in a way at least that DD will recognise) if thats the case is there any fix that i could do? 

I would be even happy with trying to learn to code it in order to fix that. 

I am attaching my load order below just in case my damn ass missed something major!

loadorder.txt 3.4 kB · 0 downloads

first i'm going to have to note that you have the tdf patch listed in your load order without tdf prostitution, could cause some issues there. surprised mo didn't catch on to that. next i can't speak for hsh, pahe slaves are my domain but i'll need to know what devices you're attempting to give the slaves that aren't visible and i'll need to know if you're using the latest version of pahe. is this an older save started with a previous version or current version. if this is an old save, it could make a difference with equipping the devices depending on what version of pahe you started the save. if you don't remember that far back, its best to retest on a newer save and if the issues persists, a papyrus log might help re-read your post i notice its persistent across fresh saves, but is it current pahe or old

 

oh and try equipping the devices with out anything else worn first, should be able to give them clothes or armor at your choosing once you know everything works as intended

[Minas]

5 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

first i'm going to have to note that you have the tdf patch listed in your load order without tdf prostitution, could cause some issues there. surprised mo didn't catch on to that. next i can't speak for hsh, pahe slaves are my domain but i'll need to know what devices you're attempting to give the slaves that aren't visible and i'll need to know if you're using the latest version of pahe. is this an older save started with a previous version or current version. if this is an old save, it could make a difference with equipping the devices depending on what version of pahe you started the save. if you don't remember that far back, its best to retest on a newer save and if the issues persists, a papyrus log might help re-read your post i notice its persistent across fresh saves, but is it current pahe or old

 

oh and try equipping the devices with out anything else worn first, should be able to give them clothes or armor at your choosing once you know everything works as intended

Looking at MO it sais installed version 2/5/2020 which i assume is the day i intalled it/downloaded it. 

Ok so i went and disabled the TDF patch loaded a new save got a slave (enslave follower) and gave them one of the Eterical Resources ( i believe it was the chaos pendagram rope from the DD expansion) waited a bit didnt update. Gave her the advanced leash colar poped up imediately same with clothes.

btw thank you for your help i cannot understand why is behaving like this in oldrim there was no problem so i am doing something wrong.

[CliftonJD]

20 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

My last idea is that somehow PAHE and HSH slaves dont register as NPCs (not in a way at least that DD will recognise)

your suspicion is correct as normally dd scripts equip the devices causing an additional slot to be shown on the slave, but in the case of pah slaves, its the pah scripts that need to handle allowing those functions to take place

14 hours ago, Minas said:

Ok so i went and disabled the TDF patch loaded a new save got a slave (enslave follower)

when you need pah to mingle with dd, additonal scripting from another mod can sometimes get in the way. you may need retry this on random bandits

14 hours ago, Minas said:

i cannot understand why is behaving like this in oldrim there was no problem so i am doing something wrong.

the papyrus is different enough in sse that it has needed an update to accommodate each sse update and the follower system is different enough that its far more difficult to get the same number of slaves to follow safely without other strange skyrim behaviors. its also unknown if my view is skewed to using sse aft or if others get differences as well. basically there's just too much in sse that pretends to be the same on the surface is really quite different inside

14 hours ago, Minas said:

Looking at MO it sais installed version 2/5/2020 which i assume is the day i intalled it/downloaded it. 

oh that reminds me, you may need to check that you're using current papyrus and skse and dd. i'm sure at the least papyrus updated since then

[Minas]

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

your suspicion is correct as normally dd scripts equip the devices causing an additional slot to be shown on the slave, but in the case of pah slaves, its the pah scripts that need to handle allowing those functions to take place

when you need pah to mingle with dd, additonal scripting from another mod can sometimes get in the way. you may need retry this on random bandits

the papyrus is different enough in sse that it has needed an update to accommodate each sse update and the follower system is different enough that its far more difficult to get the same number of slaves to follow safely without other strange skyrim behaviors. its also unknown if my view is skewed to using sse aft or if others get differences as well. basically there's just too much in sse that pretends to be the same on the surface is really quite different inside

oh that reminds me, you may need to check that you're using current papyrus and skse and dd. i'm sure at the least papyrus updated since then

Ok just to be on the safe side. I nuked everything (and i mean MO,SSE) made all clean installs reinstalled new versions of all the mods and it worked on a slave. 
So i guess we fixed it XD. Ill keep you posted if anything else goes wonky down the line but most likely scenario is that i had something that was outdated like you said.
Again thank you so much for the help CliftonJD

[CliftonJD]

14 minutes ago, Minas said:

Ok just to be on the safe side. I nuked everything (and i mean MO,SSE) made all clean installs reinstalled new versions of all the mods and it worked on a slave. 
So i guess we fixed it XD. Ill keep you posted if anything else goes wonky down the line but most likely scenario is that i had something that was outdated like you said.
Again thank you so much for the help CliftonJD

good to hear it ?

[Minas]

Boy was i fast to speak. its back. Followers wear the DD items wonderfully and DD is picking up on the armor (prompts and animations work) as soon as i enslave the follower nothing.
its not only that the armours dont show up it is also the fact that the prompts dont show which leads me to believe that DD is not even able to detect the PAHE slave.

[CliftonJD]

15 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

made all clean installs reinstalled new versions of all the mods and it worked on a slave. 

12 hours ago, Minas said:

as soon as i enslave the follower nothing.

17 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

when you need pah to mingle with dd, additonal scripting from another mod can sometimes get in the way.

its quite likely the only way to get the follower to wear the dd items after enslavement, will be to remove your other follower mods but you might get lucky if she's not a scripted follower, just need to tell her not to be a follower anymore so your follower frameworks don't interfere. if she's a scripted follower, chances are this will never work

[Minas]

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

remove your other follower mods but you might get lucky if she's not a scripted follower, just need to tell her not to be a follower anymore so your follower frameworks don't interfere. 

Ill give that a shot otherwise ill just have to live without DD

[yoshinuke]

Where is "The Restless Hunter"?

 

Maybe I'm missing something......

[Psalam]

12 hours ago, yoshinuke said:

Where is "The Restless Hunter"?

 

Maybe I'm missing something......

The Restless Hunter is a new structure (added by HSH) that sits south of Ivarstead very near the Rift Imperial Camp.

[yoshinuke]

Now that I found the 'Hunter, The bartender won't sell me gear, even though I have "questline optional" selected in the MCM.  When I ask him about buying gear for my house, the only option is "nevermind"

 

Apparently, I'm bad at this!

[CliftonJD]

1 hour ago, yoshinuke said:

Now that I found the 'Hunter, The bartender won't sell me gear, even though I have "questline optional" selected in the MCM.  When I ask him about buying gear for my house, the only option is "nevermind"

 

Apparently, I'm bad at this!

iirc you have to ask to leave a slave at the hunter before you'll get the option to view his merchandise

[kohlteth]

Anyone else get issues getting HSH to see that you have I'll take the display model installed, i have uninstalled and reinstalled so many times, and in the MCM menu it says if you install any of the above, re run installer, but no option for I'll take the display model in the installer FOMOD thingy. 

 

EDIT:- Forgot to mention I am using SSE and M3 vers of I'll Take the display model, the only SSE vers of it. 

 

 

What am i doing wrong please as the furniture in that is far superior to the other options, and um, how do i specify what to use? is it the wall marker please?

 

sorry if i seem dumb,. loving HSH and PAE a lot, i may have a bit of a collection, if only i could get a few trained in all stats so i can pass it on to the rest. 

 

Btw I saw in earlier post how HSH and PAE slaves constant dump the DD stuff off again, I have noticed they do the same with the Iron Collar of Leashing too, constantly telling themto wear it again. 

 

I DID find a way to get them to keep the DD attached, for some reason it doesnt keep the Iron Collar of Leashing on though. But half-way there  

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/15211?tab=description

 

 

Also is there a particular reason why Fear and Anger stats are not included in the training options or anywhere in HSH ?

 

 

[irvingyoung]

It is very nice to see that Skyrim is still alive and people are actively making modifications to it, discussing them. Even though the game was released in 2011, it is still relevant thanks to craftsmen like you. I especially like the work on mods for adults. However, you know, in the real world they also work on adult content. For example, Starxxx agency makes cool models for the world of the porn industry!

[kohlteth]

I did come up with an idea for either HSH or PAH itself, either to use the branding machine, or auto apply a brand to maybe left thigh or somewhere when you enslave someone.   Of course Slavetats would be needed

[CliftonJD]

On 10/7/2020 at 4:24 PM, kohlteth said:

no option for I'll take the display model in the installer FOMOD thingy. 

 

EDIT:- Forgot to mention I am using SSE and M3 vers of I'll Take the display model, the only SSE vers of it. 

previously discussed in the other hsh thread here: