Dinosaurus Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 So, for awhile i've just been playing with Phinix Natural ENB because i liked the enb not being tooooo far away from a vanilla-ish look. However, i'm starting to want to try a different enb. Trouble is too many enbs seem too 'cinematic/extreme?' for my taste. Anyone have any advice for enbs that aren't too extreme? They can be "demanding" on a computer! But i don't want something too dreary/desaturated, or too vibrant/saturated colours, or too fantasy/alien world. i guess i like subtle things >.> But, perhaps slightly less subtle than Phinix Natural. Any suggestions? Sorry if it seems like i am overly picky!! Any help at all i really appreciate.
Anatriax Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Seasons of Skyrim is a very nice blend of fantasy / realism. It also comes with 3 different color pallettes, so if you don't like the one that installs default, you can swap it out for one of the others. Also, 2 different presets. HD6 Tribute, and True HDR. BOTH are exceptionally gorgeous, IMO. I personally started out with RealVision ENB, then switched to PureVision (Same author, just slightly different) and finally to Seasons of Skyrim. I've been using the preset now for about 9 months, and I love it.
bahamut2119 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I started also with realvision but swapped to pure I love it its not to demanding on my rig and looks nice.
ao2thend Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 NLA 2.0 would be the ENB I'd recommend. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50065/? But if you want something more "vanilla" then you could also try Organic ENB. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/38917/?
vram1974 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Unbleak might really fit your tastes, it's not oversaturated but not desaturated like Bleak. It's in the subtle zone. Skyrealism ENB is nice as well. Different ENBs have different effects on textures and I find what I like most is really good skin and armor textures so I looked for ENB with low subsurfacescattering. Other people really like that super white reflective skin and crazy JJ Abrams lens flare lol
Dinosaurus Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 Thanks! i'm about to test the suggested enbs now. ^.^
27X Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 There's nothing "natural" about NLA at all. It's blue as fuck (90/110/250), the contrast is flattened to 70% of rgb, much less adobe colorspace and the gamma setting is literally 150% of gamebryo's standard and it runs like molasses even with tapioks and lunayah's fixes. It's as stylized as milepon or K, just blue instead of red. Seasons and Phinix are far more naturalized.
ao2thend Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 There's nothing "natural" about NLA at all. It's blue as fuck (90/110/250), the contrast is flattened to 70% of rgb, much less adobe colorspace and the gamma setting is literally 150% of gamebryo's standard and it runs like molasses even with tapioks and lunayah's fixes. It's as stylized as milepon or K, just blue instead of red. Seasons and Phinix are far more naturalized. Nice opinion. Don't agree. Its a mid range ENB performance wise (only 3 FPS slower then Seasons when I compared them). The color depends on the weather and time of day. Regardless of how it achieves it, NLA is a "natural" ENB. It doesn't look as "vanilla" as some other presets, but for a naturalistic ENB (like the OP is looking for) you can't get better then NLA. I would dare anyone to do a comparison set with NLA, Seasons, and Phinix and prove just how much more natural they are. As someone who has used many ENB's, done massive ENB comparison sets, and taken thousands of screenshots, The only ENB I can recommend for a natural atmosphere is NLA.
27X Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 The color of any enb depends on the setting applied at a specified time interval, so that's literally a non-statement. I don't need to take thousands of screenshots when I can take exactly one and use this to literally measure the color absolutely in an absolutely objective manner with no room or need for any kind of subjective comparison, which is where I got the values from NLA at midday with no cloudcover. It's blue as hell, way more than a standard nordic noon in the summer, that's a fact, not an opinion, and the gamma is set to 1.5, so that's also not an opinion. As stated you might favor it, and it does look nice, but it's not an accurate depiction of nordic seasonal light behavior by any measure, it's absolutely stylized, simply so in a manner most ENBs aren't.
Guest Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 The color of any enb depends on the setting applied at a specified time interval, so that's literally a non-statement. I don't need to take thousands of screenshots when I can take exactly one and use this to literally measure the color absolutely in an absolutely objective manner with no room or need for any kind of subjective comparison, which is where I got the values from NLA at midday with no cloudcover. It's blue as hell, way more than a standard nordic noon in the summer, that's a fact, not an opinion, and the gamma is set to 1.5, so that's also not an opinion. As stated you might favor it, and it does look nice, but it's not an accurate depiction of nordic seasonal light behavior by any measure, it's absolutely stylized, simply so in a manner most ENBs aren't. The trouble is we're all running with different setups, it's pretty wild out there. I do a lot of reference photography in my work, for that I have to use a screen precisely set up using a colorimeter. I don't care for gaming on that panel, I'd have to mess with it quite a bit to get it displaying games to my probably very subjective taste, which is about as standardised as my taste in music, movies, and blokes. So much for your 'accurate depiction of nordic seasonal light' - tell that to the guy who still has his budget panel set up in "buy me!" mode. He doesn't care anyway, blue's his favourite colour.
Dinosaurus Posted July 24, 2015 Author Posted July 24, 2015 Well debate aside in the end i decided to go with Seasons of Skyrim.. sooo! thanks all for the suggestions ^.^ i tried them all and played an hour or so with each suggested enb, but Seasons just worked best for me.
27X Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 The color of any enb depends on the setting applied at a specified time interval, so that's literally a non-statement. I don't need to take thousands of screenshots when I can take exactly one and use this to literally measure the color absolutely in an absolutely objective manner with no room or need for any kind of subjective comparison, which is where I got the values from NLA at midday with no cloudcover. It's blue as hell, way more than a standard nordic noon in the summer, that's a fact, not an opinion, and the gamma is set to 1.5, so that's also not an opinion. As stated you might favor it, and it does look nice, but it's not an accurate depiction of nordic seasonal light behavior by any measure, it's absolutely stylized, simply so in a manner most ENBs aren't. The trouble is we're all running with different setups, it's pretty wild out there. I do a lot of reference photography in my work, for that I have to use a screen precisely set up using a colorimeter. I don't care for gaming on that panel, I'd have to mess with it quite a bit to get it displaying games to my probably very subjective taste, which is about as standardised as my taste in music, movies, and blokes. So much for your 'accurate depiction of nordic seasonal light' - tell that to the guy who still has his budget panel set up in "buy me!" mode. He doesn't care anyway, blue's his favourite colour. None of that is relevant to the color and contrast values changed when measured at both ends against 100% RGB gamut. Whether you have a 6+2 bit TFT or a 12 bit IPS, the values can be measured against the Adobe Gamut rather absolutely, which was done. So unless you're yellow-blue colorblind, the changes are absolute, which was the point. If you're bored and wanna argue that a pair of earrings and a taped on vibrator is an outfit like the last time we conversed on the topic of armor availability by body type, you're gonna be SOL; cause I'm not bored, I'm just pointing out an opinion stated as an objective absolute is no such animal.
Guest Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 None of that is relevant to the color and contrast values changed when measured at both ends against 100% RGB gamut. Whether you have a 6+2 bit TFT or a 12 bit IPS, the values can be measured against the Adobe Gamut rather absolutely, which was done. So unless you're yellow-blue colorblind, the changes are absolute, which was the point. If you're bored and wanna argue that a pair of earrings and a taped on vibrator is an outfit like the last time we conversed on the topic of armor availability by body type, you're gonna be SOL; cause I'm not bored, I'm just pointing out an opinion stated as an objective absolute is no such animal. I wouldn't dare. Trying to have a normal discussion with you involved in it is like trying to tell a high functioning autist a rude joke. I was trying to point out that there is potentially a big difference between what one person sees on a properly calibrated display and what another sees on one that isn't. You can consider that irrelevant in a real world discussion about peoples likes and dislikes, and that's absolutely fine with me. As for the last bit, sorry I don't recall it, seems it left rather more impression on you than it did me. What I will be sure to do in future is not engage with you, that doesn't seem to be something you like to do without resorting to eye gauging.
ao2thend Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 The color of any enb depends on the setting applied at a specified time interval, so that's literally a non-statement. I don't need to take thousands of screenshots when I can take exactly one and use this to literally measure the color absolutely in an absolutely objective manner with no room or need for any kind of subjective comparison, which is where I got the values from NLA at midday with no cloudcover. It's blue as hell, way more than a standard nordic noon in the summer, that's a fact, not an opinion, and the gamma is set to 1.5, so that's also not an opinion. As stated you might favor it, and it does look nice, but it's not an accurate depiction of nordic seasonal light behavior by any measure, it's absolutely stylized, simply so in a manner most ENBs aren't. So your saying you measured NLA to a "Nordic noon in the summer" to determine whether or not it was colored correctly? Wow. Well have fun objectively examining your ENB's before using them, because that's a normal thing to do. In the mean time, the OP has found an ENB they enjoy so this topic has no further relevance. Goodbye.
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