Kakabishan Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Im at my wit's end with this. This occurs pretty frequently and sometimes not. When I load my recent save, it sometimes lets me into the save, and other times it just crashes constantly when I load it.However, if i start a new game and then load the game it works 100% of the time. -I've generated FNIS everytime- I've made sure that skyrim.esm is in plugins.txt- Sorted my mods with LOOT and cleaned the masters with TES5EDIT- Using ENBoost and Sheson's memory patch- Scripts arent the issue, the log is attached to the point where it usually CTDs on load (Although im not sure if its relevant)- Disabled all my mods and started with a vanilla game (Except for textures/meshes and live another life) and it still occurs- I have not disabled any mod (ESPECIALLY With scripts) Mid game.Specs: I7-5500u 3.0Ghz, Nvidia GTX 840m (2gb vram), 8gb RamPapyrus logPapyrus.1.logLoad order Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm CreatureFramework.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm daymoyl.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm hdtHighHeel.esm HepsyHair.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SGHairPackBase.esm TKChildren.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp 3DNPC.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp ELFX - Dragonborn.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp AFT_iNPCFix.esp AMatterOfTime.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Apropos.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp Bayonetta.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp BFSEffects.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp Brows.esp Brushofddom.esp imp_helm_legend.esp Calyps-Hair-Alpha.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Clothing & Clutter_3DNPC_Patch.esp CobbEncumbrance.esp College of Winterhold Entry Requirements.esp fallentreebridges.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp Civil War Overhaul.esp Immersive Weapons.esp WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp ABT - Kevkas All-in-One.esp chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp SkyUI.esp Customizable Camera.esp CWIELnFXPatch.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Holidays.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp WATER DG + DB.esp HentaiCreatures.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Point The Way.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp EEO - USP (2.0.4a) Patch.esp CWINPCApachiiSkyHair.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Dead Body Collision.esp Devious Deviants.esp DF_T33.esp doahair.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp FAMP2.esp fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp FumofumoHair.esp ggxhair.esp ggxTdaMiku.esp Growlf long hair2.esp Hair Physics Project.esp hairundergearDB.esp hairunderheadgear.esp hairunderheadgearDG.esp HDT Female Hairstyles.esp HDT Havok Object.esp HDT Lara Hair.esp HDTEarring.esp HHairstyles.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp iHUD.esp Immersive Scars.esp ImmersiveFP.esp KJ Tattoos 2K.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp MarieRose Wig.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp Moss Rocks.esp NB-Scars.esp Niahs Hair V6.esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp NUHairstyles.esp numenume Hair.esp Proper Aiming.esp PumpingIron.esp R18pn - lingerie Set.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp Realistic crime report radius.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp RND_FAMP2.esp CCF_RND_Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp ArachnaphobiaExpansion.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp WATER Plants.esp SexLabDefeat.esp HoldBorderBanners.esp 3DNPC - Winterhold Mods Patch.esp Equipping Overhaul.esp Duel - Combat Realism.esp Combat Evolved.esp Stealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp BetterMagic_FULL.esp Imaginator BETA.esp AE_animation_ENG.esp dovahkiinrelax.esp FNISspells.esp Prisoner Rags Replacement.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp Sample_Hairs.esp Scars of Skyrim.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SGEyebrows.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp SlaveTats.esp Slof_HDT.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp sr_ifpssl.esp LeftHandRings.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp TKChildren Merged USKP Patch.esp TKChildren+3DNPC.esp childskeletonfix.esp TKDodge.esp TradeBarter.esp TrueBrows.esp Unique Uniques.esp vAutosaveManager.esp VHVP.esp VioLens.esp vwrNeckSeamFix.esp Wa Ribbon.esp WATER.esp WATER-RND Legendary Patch.esp Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp WyldMenuPlugMale.esp zarias_restraints.esp calyps-dragonpriestmasks.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp SexLabUtil1.esp It would be amazing if anyone could help me out or offer some input, please . Thanks!
badbat111 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 to much data make sure you save in a small room without much junk in it if there bottles and crasp everywhere grab them and dump them in chests and barrels its a pain when it happens saving in a big area with lots of gears its like skyrim cant handle a startup save
Kakabishan Posted April 15, 2015 Author Posted April 15, 2015 to much data make sure you save in a small room without much junk in it if there bottles and crasp everywhere grab them and dump them in chests and barrels its a pain when it happens saving in a big area with lots of gears its like skyrim cant handle a startup save Ive tried in exteriors and interiors, and its still the same fate, and there isnt much data, like its not in a save during a combat or with a huge amouunt of npcs or anything
Anatriax Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Try running the save through PTD wrapper (Search "Speed and stability guide for ENB" for directions and a download link)
Kakabishan Posted April 15, 2015 Author Posted April 15, 2015 Try running the save through PTD wrapper (Search "Speed and stability guide for ENB" for directions and a download link) Ill download it and give it a whirl now, thanks .
Discord12 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Try running the save through PTD wrapper (Search "Speed and stability guide for ENB" for directions and a download link) Ill download it and give it a whirl now, thanks . please report your results, as im having pretty much the same issues ^^
Kakabishan Posted April 15, 2015 Author Posted April 15, 2015 Unfortunately it didnt solve the problem :/. I followed the instructions and its still persisting with this damn CTD.
Invictusblade Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 i have a similar problem and only way to load my save games without crashing is this mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/21454/? i do a savegame in the haven bag and it nearly always loads for me later on
Nergui Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I use Popyurt. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/62710/? Same concept though.
Kakabishan Posted April 16, 2015 Author Posted April 16, 2015 I use Popyurt. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/62710/? Same concept though. Its a bit inconvenient relying on this though :/. I'd rather solve the problem at its root cause, because it might be something worse. Pretty cool mod though!
D_ManXX2 Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Do you run HDT ?? or mods with HDT ?? i have notcied that mostly the crashes starts when this mod is running. if you have hdt try moving the .dll file so it cannot load hdt and see if the crashes still happens.
Nergui Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 The root cause of the problem is best described with an analogy. Imagine an empty dump truck (or lorry) representing vanilla skyrim. Now imagine loading stuff onto the truck. If you keep loading stuff onto that truck, eventually, the load will be too heavy and the truck will break down. Getting back to skyrim, the same applies. When loading a savegame in an open area, the engine has to load all the models (and their textures), all the scripts for that cell, script timers, ambient sounds, the skyboxes, LOD models and textures, your character, NPCs and probably other stuff. The only way to fix it is to run vanilla skyrim or save and load your game in a benign interior cell with only a small amount for the engine to initialise on startup.
Kakabishan Posted April 16, 2015 Author Posted April 16, 2015 The root cause of the problem is best described with an analogy. Imagine an empty dump truck (or lorry) representing vanilla skyrim. Now imagine loading stuff onto the truck. If you keep loading stuff onto that truck, eventually, the load will be too heavy and the truck will break down. Getting back to skyrim, the same applies. When loading a savegame in an open area, the engine has to load all the models (and their textures), all the scripts for that cell, script timers, ambient sounds, the skyboxes, LOD models and textures, your character, NPCs and probably other stuff. The only way to fix it is to run vanilla skyrim or save and load your game in a benign interior cell with only a small amount for the engine to initialise on startup. Well, I've tried this mod too, and it still CTDs so it must be some other problem. I dont know if this is because of windows 8.1 or something because in my older computer (On vista) this never happened and that had a loooot of mods and I was completely clueless and my scripts were all over the place..
Kakabishan Posted April 16, 2015 Author Posted April 16, 2015 Do you run HDT ?? or mods with HDT ?? i have notcied that mostly the crashes starts when this mod is running. if you have hdt try moving the .dll file so it cannot load hdt and see if the crashes still happens. Hmm, that might be a possibility. I do run HDT and a lot of mods that do run it, ill try and isolate it and give it a go. Cheers! Edit: Nope :{, still CTDing. This is really driving me up the wall. What perplexes me the MOST is why when I start a new game and then load the save it works 100% of the time..
D_ManXX2 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Kalista i don't think you will be able to fully fix this. see your mod load order you have too many mods installed. All of these mods needs to be loaded at game start especially mods are scripted will eventually cause this too happen it also well known problem for skyrim that will never be fixed. The only work around you will have is load the game inside or go to console type coc qassmoke and save the game there and from that moment load this save first and then you will be able to load the latest save game normally again.
Kakabishan Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 Kalista i don't think you will be able to fully fix this. see your mod load order you have too many mods installed. All of these mods needs to be loaded at game start especially mods are scripted will eventually cause this too happen it also well known problem for skyrim that will never be fixed. The only work around you will have is load the game inside or go to console type coc qassmoke and save the game there and from that moment load this save first and then you will be able to load the latest save game normally again. Well, you see, I've tried without any plugins as well on a brand new game, and playing for a bit and then reloading the save.
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