Niobia Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 I'm trying to use the Red Bird armor. I have the right skeleton and body and all that stuff as all my tbbp and hdt armor/clothes are working and don't have this error. So I assume there's something I can do to the armor in nifskope maybe? Ingame the boobs are sort of crushed and spread out all weird-like. It's a bodyslide enabled armor so I'm using a custom bodyslide shape with it. I've included the nifs in hope that someone could help me out. The original mod is here: http://mitakusaner.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-575.html My file: cuirass_0.nif cuirass_1.nif
myuhinny Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 Not sure what is causing it but I can say that I don't think the cuirass is the problem might be wrong though. I don't use CBBE but I installed this mod and used the console to add them and I never saw any flat breasts and if I equip the HDT havok object the breast perked up more.
Niobia Posted February 15, 2015 Author Posted February 15, 2015 Not sure what is causing it but I can say that I don't think the cuirass is the problem might be wrong though. I don't use CBBE but I installed this mod and used the console to add them and I never saw any flat breasts and if I equip the HDT havok object the breast perked up more. 2015-02-15_00014.jpg2015-02-15_00015.jpg2015-02-15_00010.jpg Your screenshots are showing the boobs being smooshed back though. I don't mean super crushed or anything. I mean exactly what you see in the screenshots you posted. the boobs aren't supposed to look like that. It's definitely the armor nifs. All the other armor nifs by the same author have different random problems like this as well but this is the one I can't solve. It's hard to notice when the weight slider is all the way up like you have it in your screen shot. but if go from 1 to 50 for example, it's very noticeable as the boobs go "into" the body. Also, if you look at from the side and not the front you'll see it looks abnormal. The part inbetween the breast pokes out a little depending on what you have the slider set to. Edit: I went ahead and took some screenshots to show you what I mean Boobs without armor Boobs with armor Again, this error doesn't happen with any other armors I use that are tbbp or hdt. I've had those things installed correctly for months and months now. You may or may not notice an error with the leopard version. It only shows the max weight no matter what your character is. That's an easy fix with the TES5edit as i found out from another post I made a while back. So the author of these mods seem prone to over looking things.
myuhinny Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 The leoperd one not changing when the weight slider is adjusted could mean that the _0 and _1 armor nifs do not have matching properties I saw some info on that in the tentacle armor thread by dixiepig awhile back. The reason why my player was that big in the screenshots is because she was pregnant I canceled it during these screenshots The red one maybe it requires the HDT havok object armor piece to be equipped to look correct or better not sure though. With armor only With HDT havok object armor attachment equipped. 0 weight 50 weight max weight
Niobia Posted February 16, 2015 Author Posted February 16, 2015 The weight issue with leopard one just has to be edited with tes5edit. you just have to go into the armor addon part and set it so that its affected by weight sliders. Thats the only issue with that aside from the boobs being smushed like the red one. It does look better with the havok object. Is there a havok object mod that doesn't add the object to all NPCs so I can just have my character wear it? My games already bogged down with a billion mods x_x
myuhinny Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 I'm using HDT Havok Object v1.2.7z I don't think it gets added to anyone else other then the player.HDT Havok Object v1.2.7z
Niobia Posted February 16, 2015 Author Posted February 16, 2015 Okay, I've tried the hdt object. while it perks up the breast (as it does fro everytthing with tbbp and hdt), the breasts are still squished. I appreciate the time and help, but there's still a major issue going on with the mesh of this outfit. I guess no one knows what the issue is or how to fix it. Oh well. I'm probably just going to move on and forget about it. Thanks again for your help though
Synthesis Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I think I have the same issue--bodyslides from Chinese mod sites, like for Red Bird from B&S, result in outfits with compressed chests. The breasts tend to be flattened and pushed apart. I identify them as Chinese, because I've encountered the problem most often with HDT-capable bodyslides that begin with "op_". It seems less common on Bodyslide mod sets from other countries. No idea what could be causing it.
Niobia Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 I think I have the same issue--bodyslides from Chinese mod sites, like for Red Bird from B&S, result in outfits with compressed chests. The breasts tend to be flattened and pushed apart. I identify them as Chinese, because I've encountered the problem most often with HDT-capable bodyslides that begin with "op_". It seems less common on Bodyslide mod sets from other countries. No idea what could be causing it. I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing this. I decided to go ahead and just do -80% on the flat chest slider in bodyslide. It's not perfect, but it's much better looking now. Decreasing width a little bit can help too. It seems like this is the only "fix" that'll be happening anytime soon.
myuhinny Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 It's hard to say as I don't use CBBE or bodyslide but maybe the bodyslide that they use is changed/modified and maybe it works perfect in their game but not a different langue version. It could also be the skeleton/body mesh that they are using or how they are going about to make their armor work and you would be surprised at the amount of things wrong in a armor/body that you can find out by just trying throwing them into the clothing converter/mesh rigger but even more so in mesh rigger. You can also run into some just trying to load their nifs into nifskope I downloaded one awhile back the armor in it had so many errors in it that it would lock up and crash nifskope when it tried to list all of the errors in the nif. Right after that it got thrown straight into the waste basket and deleted because if it was doing that just in nifskope then there was no way in hell I was going to install it into my game so that it can cause problems in game. Older UNP bodies will actually shift forward/backwards or have other weird things when you try to run them through mesh rigger newer UNP bodies that don't use the original meshes don't do that. So there could be reason why something it happening.
Synthesis Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I think I have the same issue--bodyslides from Chinese mod sites, like for Red Bird from B&S, result in outfits with compressed chests. The breasts tend to be flattened and pushed apart. I identify them as Chinese, because I've encountered the problem most often with HDT-capable bodyslides that begin with "op_". It seems less common on Bodyslide mod sets from other countries. No idea what could be causing it. I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing this. I decided to go ahead and just do -80% on the flat chest slider in bodyslide. It's not perfect, but it's much better looking now. Decreasing width a little bit can help too. It seems like this is the only "fix" that'll be happening anytime soon. Would you mind elaborating on that a bit? I've never had to put in negative values into slider, but I think you may be right--on the Nexus forums, Orsinuis very patiently troubleshooted me through this, up to reinstalling my skeleton and bodyslide and adjusting the config.xml, and none of those solutions worked. Setting a body specifically to counteract this ("torpedo tits") seems like the easiest solution so far. How does one go about doing that? The weird thing is, the websites where I download "op_" bodyslider sets don't seem to have the issues in preview. Maybe their release of Bodyslide is slightly different somehow? I assume those screenshots are being taken in Skyrim, but I have no idea really. EDIT: Ah, you just input negative values. Duh.
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